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I've been dating a Pisces Man for a little over a year. We've had horrible "communication" problems. He broke up with me at the end of Sept. Two weeks later, he sent me a text saying he still loves me, can't get over me and wants to get together.
I agreed because I felt the same way....then I didn't hear from him for 5 days and when I finally got him to respond to me he told me that even tho he loves me he can't be with me because I've hurt him too much over the past year. (long story short...guys come on to me all the time and even tho I was totally devoted to my Pisces, he always accused me of flirting and "looking" for someone else) My sign is Sagittarius so I'm out-going and friendly to people and he is super-jealous but always says he's not.

Neither of us have ever talked about astrology...I'm not sure he even knows he's a Pisces...I had never paid attention to my own sign either but I happened to stumble on a message board about Pisces men one night and got a huge eye-opening on exactly what has happened to our relationship! Wow! I see we were pretty much doomed from the beginning because we both seem to exhibit the personality traits of our signs, which I see are not compatible.

But, at any rate, I still love him so much and this morning I sent him a long email trying to explain how I've come to understand some of what/how he's thinking and just letting him know that I regretted hurting his heart and would like to keep the door open if he would like to return in any capacity. I wanted him to know that I "got" his need to retreat and find some solitude and I was wrong to take it personally, even tho at the time I just didn't understand what was happening.

So, my question is....do you think he will read the letter? He has not responded to it and I haven't talked to him at all in almost 2 weeks..(the 2nd break-up)
We aren't kids...we're middle-aged adults. I don't want to annoy him further by contacting him anymore,its just so painful that he seems to have fallen out of love so quickly. Any insight is appreciated!
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@MeandR. I know this will be hard but give him some time. If he loves you, trust me, he will contact you.
If he doesn't ......sad to say but he has moved on.... and you should do the same.

Sometimes a Pisces man falls in love with a "dream version " of you and not the real you. If you
give us time to realize that ..... once we come down to earth, we may not feel quite the same way
about you. Especially once we start seeing the "real" you and not the one in our mind.

Good luck!
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I am going through the same scenario you are. One minute my Pisces man tells me he cares about me and is open to us reconciling again later on, and the next minute he tells me he can't stand me and wants nothing to do with me. He flip-flops like crazy!! However, there is one clue that gives him away and shows me that he still does care about me--Whenever he sees me somewhere, he stares a hole through me. We ran into each other at a club last week and even though we both took great efforts to ignore each other, he stared at me all night long. Yesterday he saw me out jogging while driving his car, and the boy literally STUCK HIS HEAD OUT of his car window to check me out as he passed me. No one who "wants nothing to do" with someone would spend that much energy into looking at them everytime they see that person. Me and several other people have concluded that he does still care about me but that he is reacting to the negative energy force that has surrounded me since birth. Now that I have consulted someone who works with this type of thing, I can now begin working on conquering this negative force that has plagued me all my life.
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MermaidPrincess is the Scorpio who is holding onto a Pisces who left her to go live with his college friends to hang out with them until he goes into the Army.

She's extremely deluded and thinks that she's decided to be on a break from him for a while, until he gets his shit together .... when in reality, he left her and she can't handle that little fact.

She makes all kinds of accusations about him sleeping with other women at the moment and this is why she has decided to pull away to let him get his shit together first before she allows him back in her life .... when in reality, he broke up with her, so who he sleeps with isn't even her business.
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Posted by MeandR

... he told me that even tho he loves me he can't be with me because I've hurt him too much over the past year. (long story short...guys come on to me all the time and even tho I was totally devoted to my Pisces, he always accused me of flirting and "looking" for someone else) My sign is Sagittarius so I'm out-going and friendly to people








Every woman gets hit on ALOT, so this is not special to Sag exclusively.

Second ..... a grown and mature woman who intends on developing a trustful, respectful relationship with her doesn't go out of her way to express to him how much she is hit on. An insecure woman, who doesn't know her self worth will let her man know she is sought after, for purposes of this man to come at her harder so she can justify this as meaning that he must think she is special since he is fighting to keep her, considering there are others who might want her.


The only reason you even tell him that you are hit on is to attempt to get him to do something to prove soemthing to you because you don't have the strength or esteem to know what you are worth for yourself.

Because according to your own words quoted above, this hurting you have done to him over the past year was him being aware of how much men seek you out .. so that means you use this as some sort of tool to make him believe you must be all that since so many men hit on you.


To have men hit on you alot doesn't mean you are all that .... it means you have a vagina.

But, instead of trying to develop a trusting relationship, you opted to have a mistrusting one in order to fulfill your egos desire in having him want to win you over.
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Posted by MeandR

.... this morning I sent him a long email trying to explain how I've come to understand some of what/how he's thinking and just letting him know that I regretted hurting his heart ....

... I wanted him to know that I "got" his need to retreat and find some solitude and I was wrong to take it personally






So, why would you send him letter telling him that you "got" the problem, when space wasn't even what was hurting his heart.


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... he told me that even tho he loves me he can't be with me because I've hurt him too much over the past year. (long story short...guys come on to me all the time and even tho I was totally devoted to my Pisces, he always accused me of flirting and "looking" for someone else)

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You sticking other men hitting on you in his face is what hurt his heart.
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Thanks for everyone's comments. I do intend to follow Jack's advice and leave him alone as I think our personality differences are too much for either of us to bear and maintain any sense of happiness. I appreciate your insight 3Dimes!

P-Angel, I am far from insecure or ego-seeking. You have jumped to many conclusions and I find it interesting that you would make such judgemental statements about a stranger. Better to have asked me for more information than to have assumed you know me or my intentions. I have never told him about guys hitting on me. His jealousy stems from what he has observed with his own eyes in social settings we have been in together. I have never had any reason or desire to TRY to make him jealous.

I am the same age as you so trust me, I've known many girls/women who play those little jealousy games with their men, but I am definitely not one of them. I also wasn't saying "getting hit on" was special to Sag or that no other woman on the planet gets hit on but me because I'm "all that"...I was merely trying to make a small reference to exactly why my guy feels hurt so anyone with any helpful advice would have that insight. I was sharing my personal experience, but I do have to wonder why a mature woman like yourself would take such offense to that little tidbit and totally miss the entire point of my question which was what his reaction might be to the letter I sent him and how a Pisces can cut someone out of their life so quickly.
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I am the same age as you so trust me, I've known many girls/women who play those little jealousy games with their men, but I am definitely not one of them.






Of course you are that type of female, and age has nothing to do with maturity, so you being my age doesn't exempt you from being attention seeking for the purpose to playing in his feelings.

You, yourself said that the reason why he is/was hurt due to guys hitting on you ... so there's no point in trying to back pedal now because people can actually read.

A mature woman who wishes to have a trusting and respectful relationship with a guy doesn't throw up in his face, the fact that men are hitting on her. And of course you talk to him about these men .. I'm not sure who you think you're fooling.


A woman who desires to have a trusting and respectful relationship with a guy nips this shit right in the bud .....

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... guys hitting on me. His jealousy stems from what he has observed with his own eyes in social settings we have been in together.

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.. she doesn't have an excuse for this to be in his face by saying she's a Sag and naturally social.
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MeandR, just ignore P-Angel. She IS a bitter miserable shrew who makes rash judgments on total strangers. She has called me foul names and twisted my circumstances around to the point that the discussions on my posts made no sense at all. She claims that my Pisces man and I were both in a relationship AND NOT in a relationship at the same time...that doesn't even make sense!!! LMAO! She also jumped to conclusions and accused me of being a "dick-wetting whore" who cheated on him even though I have never cheated on anyone. So yeah, just ignore her hateful ass.

Anyway, I fully understand what you are going through. I, too, recently waved the white surrender flag and accepted 100% of the blame for our problems. I didn't respect his request for space when he first asked for it, and I admitted this to him. Last night one of his female friends told me that he was "REEALLY into me", and it made me wonder how he could suddenly hate me. But she said he doesn't have it in him to hate anyone, especially me, and that if I give him his rope and let him go play for awhile then we will eventually come back around and want to be friendly again. As I stated above, he doesn't even try to hide the fact that he stares a hole through me everytime he sees me somewhere, so he obviously still thinks of me in some way...or at the very least still finds me attractive. You did the right thing by emailing him and admitting you were wrong. Now just sit back and wait.
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Thank you so much Mermaid. As I stated in my original post, I don't know much about astrology but from what I've been reading about Pisces and the other signs of people I know and my own sign, I've concluded that there has to be something to it since it's so spot on! I was really comforted when I started reading all the message boards out there from women dating Pisces men because it seems like what he's doing is very typical behavior. I did send him a very heart-felt (long) email and addressed all his hurts specifically (contrary to what P-angel said)and told him (specifically)how I would have done things differently if I had the chance....so far he has not responded or contacted me, but I have renewed strength to wait it out after reading what you have said and others on other boards. I don't have many opportunities to run into him randomly, but if I do, I will definitely notice if he's looking intently at me....actually, after he broke up I met him briefly to return some things to him that I had and he was very cold and distant, but he did sort of bore through me with his eyes. I actually had to look away a couple of times because of his intense stare. Keep me posted on your relationship. I'm very interested! Did you say you were Scorpio? At least you have a compatible sign with Pisces...that's a plus! :-)
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Yes I am a Scorpio and our attraction was literally instantaneous from the first moment we met. He would have willingly climbed any mountain for me. Last night one of his friends said she had never seen him so into a girl as he was with me. But I blew it when he asked me for space and refused to give it to him. Now he is so irritated with me and says he wants nothing to do with me...yet sometimes he flip-flops and says he still likes me and would be willing to let us try again later on after he's had some space. But like I said, some of his behavior around me is giving him away. Anyway, I have not said a word to him since apologizing to him and admitting my blame, and it is getting easier to ignore him, but we'll see if he cools down and comes back around after he's had some time alone. Several people have said that he is most likely testing me right now. I WANT to please him and make him happy and I WANT to honor his requests. So we shall see if this makes him happy...
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MeandR, I can assure you that he read your letter. My Pisces has read everything I ever sent to him, even when he is pissed off as Hell at me. I know so because my messenger app tells me when the email was viewed by the recipient. I'm honestly surprised he has never blocked me on FB, because I was half expecting him to. But nope, he has read every email I have ever sent to him and I am sure your Pisces man did too. What you have to remember is that Pisces men are VERY sensitive...they're almost like women!!! And a sincere, heartfelt apology works wonders with them. Just keep on praying for forgiveness and wait patiently for him to make the next move. Right now he is most likely deeply lost in thought pondering over what to think and do about this situation. So just sit still and wait.
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Posted by MeandR
Thanks for everyone's comments. I do intend to follow Jack's advice and leave him alone as I think our personality differences are too much for either of us to bear and maintain any sense of happiness.



a lot can be said in just a few words, ya know? i can assure you that my advice may not be as lengthy as some, but it is sincere, and in your best interest. best of luck to you...

--Jack
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Posted by IntriguedScorp
Hate to say it but P-Angel is right. The Pisces came out and told you that you hurt him because "he always accused me of flirting and "looking" for someone else."

Simply put, he didn't feel like your number one.

Women, we have got to start actually listening to the man when they are telling us their truth. Too many times we seem to turn it into something else and rationalize that way. This situation has nothing to do with needing space. Seems like Pisces kept trying to get closer but was feeling a break in the connection and thus swam off.



Exactly. He said out loud that he's not happy with the way you make him feel.
Now you're brushing this off as 'oh but I just get hit on and I'm an outgoing person so it's only natural'.
To him -and me- this is a sign you're not in the relationship at all. Once you establish the fact that you're in it with him, then you can get your leash to go very long, but you haven't done that and thus he becomes jealous. Have you ever made it clear through words & actions that you're his and his alone? You could do this by actively rejecting the people that flirt with you, ignoring them.. but something tells me you laugh and eat it all up. How is that suppose to make him feel?

We're sensitive alright but we're not women. Never make that mistake with Pisces men. We're more in tune with our emotions yes but we will react like any male will in certain situations. It just takes us a bit longer to turn hard & cold. Actions speak louder than words so if you want him back, you'll have to change and prove your worth. An emotional apology doesn't cut it. You give him all the time he needs first and then you show him you care deeply by actions. If you cannot do that, just let him go cause we don't need the rinse & repeat drama.
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I guess I'm not communicating that well...I GET what I did and what happened, but like I said in the beginning...it's too late. IF I had the chance to make things right & change my behavior,I WOULD do it....but its impossible at this point. He swam away from me.
I "thought" he knew how much I loved him...I told him all the time how much I loved and ADORED him. (and showed him) When issues came up that he would actually mention, I thought I dispelled his worries and we moved passed it....but that's one area where we are VERY different...I forgive and FORGET things if he has hurt me...he held on to the hurts and I just didn't realize it until it was too late. He doesn't open up that easily and told me from the beginning that he keeps himself guarded behind some pretty high walls. He also expresses his hurt thru humor...things mentioned were always done in a joking or teasing manner. In the year we've been together, we never once had a painful, dramatic discussion about any issues. Things would be subtly mentioned in a light-hearted manner, talked about in a playful loving way and I thought it was over and done with...it wasn't until just recently that I discovered his "Pisces-ways" that I've pieced it all together and made some sense out of what happened. His hurt was deep and I didn't get that...he feels and thinks about things way more deeply than I ever knew...
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It sucks when you finally realize that you made a mistake or did something incorrectly but know that it's too late to make amends. I finally realized that I need to let my Pisces have some space and not interact with each other for awhile because he needs this time to have fun and be free until the time comes for him to join the Coast Guard. But I realized my mistake too late m, and even though I am giving him his space right now and have disappeared from his life, the damage has already been done and he hates my guts. He will probably hate my guts forever now.
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To the original poster - I'm not sure if you are still seeking opinions or not.

I'd say he will read it, and that will be that. I wouldn't be expecting any sort of response from the situation. If he had something to say, the letter probably wouldn't have been needed in the first place.

And what the guys said about the "dream version" - I'd take to the bank. Once that hurt happens, reality comes crashing down around someone that would have been idolized for life. Pisces can put up with a lot of crap. So to get to a point where they call it quits, means they have had their garbage can filled up. All the while they make it seem easy to keep accepting the garbage - which is probably why people always seem shocked at the way the switch just flicks one day and all the feelings are gone.

You can't take a fish for granted. We notice. Once we cross to the other side, your recovery is futile.
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Yeah... It's not a good scene when it gets to that point eh ninjafish?
But it's exactly what happens. I'm sorry to hear this 😢
I'm glad that, you are at the point of enough though.
I suppose there is an evolved level where we stop taking crap in the first place. I'm working on finding it, but... It's a work in process. Even with my closest friends. Only this year have I started to vocalize with them, instead of hoping things will fix themselves.

I forget which cancer said this before (I think it was shellshocker, she gets fish pretty well I find, I'm always bringing something up she has said about pisces lol) - that we don't communicate our problems enough. It's a big issue for why we are always gettin crapped on, so to speak. Which I'd have to say in my case is true. I accept that I either think people should be able to see things how I do, or I don't want to talk about it period, I just want to deal with the consequences...
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Posted by deezie
Intrigued is so right. Although - it was too late long ago.

He doesn't hate you. And even if he does hate you (doubtful), he won't forever. He will be indifferent to you. Hanging on to that hate... not possible when the person isn't around us.



Ohhhhh trust me, he hates my guts. If I suddenly died in an accident tomorrow, he would be overjoyed at the thought if never having to look at me or hear my voice ever again.

And you can't blame me for automagically worrying that he might run off to bang every female with a pulse when just about every other guy I've ever known has done exactly that. I even got dumped for a 16-year-old little jailbait once!
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@mermaid. Listen closely .....you have to believe in something bigger than you. Then you have to have faith in that something.

When you drive a car, do you only look in the rear view mirror to drive where you going, or do
you look straight ahead and occasionally glance at the rear view mirror when appropriate?

That's how life is. To get where you need to go you have to focus on the path ahead and occasionally look behind when appropriate.
God has someone else that is going to come into your life and you will him more than this guy. Trust me.
But you have to keep moving ahead to get to your blessing. The longer you hold on to the past, the less time
you have to share with the guy you were meant to be with. Don't you want to spend as much time as you can?

I have been where you are right now. Thinking I will never love another person like this person. Thinking
I can't live without this person .... And you know what. Someone came into my life and wiped away
all my tears and gave me a greater love than I had ever had before. If I had not gone through shat I did
and continued through the pain and heartache, I would never had met her nor would I appreciate her
because of what I had been through. You must know pain in order to know and appreciate pleasure.

Keep on moving... God's not done with you yet. Get your blessing. 🙂
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Lol, sorry for the typos. I hope you got the message. I'm not saying its going to be easy but
nothing worth having comes easy. You can do it mermaid! Believe in yourself. You are halfway
there because you acknowledge the mistakes you made in your last relationship. You aren't the
same person you were back then. You know that. Keep moving.... forward not backward and
have faith.
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Intrigued is so right. Although - it was too late long ago.

He doesn't hate you. And even if he does hate you (doubtful), he won't forever. He will be indifferent to you. Hanging on to that hate... not possible when the person isn't around us.



Ohhhhh trust me, he hates my guts. If I suddenly died in an accident tomorrow, he would be overjoyed at the thought if never having to look at me or hear my voice ever again.

And you can't blame me for automagically worrying that he might run off to bang every female with a pulse when just about every other guy I've ever known has done exactly that. I even got dumped for a 16-year-old little jailbait once!
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Be logical? What on earth does he have to hate you for? What have you done so horribly to him, that would make him "hate" you. The real perspective is that I'm right. He's indifferent to you. You'd rather he hate you, because that means he actually still cares. I think you actually mean "He's indifferent to me". But to a woman that liked someone, indifference might as well be hate.

I feel the same way about scorpio's most of the time. They are too much to take, and it's just... constant. It literally pushes me to a place where I can't deal with them. I need away. And the more they try to keep me from being away, the more annoyed I become. I don't hate them for that, I understand it's just in their make-up, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm feeling like someone wants to control me, and puppet master me. I stand by it that he likely doesn't hate you at all, and I'm not saying this to encourage you, it's worse for him to be indifferent, but I do believe that is what he is. To say he'd be overjoyed at you being hurt, is just twisted. And like 3588Pisces said your thinking is weird, and typical 'own worst enemy' scoripionic. And like pocketchange over there said - living in the past, continuing to look back - how would you expect your life to look different, if you're never accepting new terrain.
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Lol....ha! I know the feeling

Deezie I think it's this bloody Gemini moon.... plus I was born on 222
All these 2s

2 fish 2 twins.... constant battle

I'm actually both. Both are me. I'm one way when I'm in a relationship and one way when I'm single.
Look at my chart on my profile .... amazing how I'm kind of even....

My elements are almost balanced. I'm kinda like in the middle. Its funny that's how I live my life...
I never go to far to one side.... good or bad...

Hmmmm.... this astrology is very interesting
I even look at my planets and my percentage with each one....

Neptune is a motherf....
I'm feel like there are 2 of me and my surroundings influence which one "takes the wheel and drives"...
Lol ... the environment is the "tie breaker".... sucks
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3dimes is crazy wise! 😛


Lol thanks BG,

I will say this. I'm wise enough to know that there is something bigger than me. That I need a woman
to be complete to be whole and while I can stand on my own, that is only a temporary placement and
I am but a small piece in this puzzle of life and my journey is to find my unique place where I was "born to fit".

This I know.
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Lol we all going to the "same place" no matter what route we chose or how we drive it... the ride its what is important .... not so much the destination especially since its all the same... but that is just way too deep for most....

Just like a puzzle. Its starts as one..... then is cut and pulled apart with the purpose to be put back together the exact same way ....
We are all one. A circle. 360. There is no beginning and the is no end....

Lmao that right there was so deep ....blah blah blahhh...
Love is what makes the journey fun. 🙂
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Intrigued is so right. Although - it was too late long ago.

He doesn't hate you. And even if he does hate you (doubtful), he won't forever. He will be indifferent to you. Hanging on to that hate... not possible when the person isn't around us.



Ohhhhh trust me, he hates my guts. If I suddenly died in an accident tomorrow, he would be overjoyed at the thought if never having to look at me or hear my voice ever again.

And you can't blame me for automagically worrying that he might run off to bang every female with a pulse when just about every other guy I've ever known has done exactly that. I even got dumped for a 16-year-old little jailbait once!



Be logical? What on earth does he have to hate you for? What have you done so horribly to him, that would make him "hate" you. The real perspective is that I'm right. He's indifferent to you. You'd rather he hate you, because that means he actually still cares. I think you actually mean "He's indifferent to me". But to a woman that liked someone, indifference might as well be hate.

I feel the same way about scorpio's most of the time. They are too much to take, and it's just... constant. It literally pushes me to a place where I can't deal with them. I need away. And the more they try to keep me from being away, the more annoyed I become. I don't hate them for that, I understand it's just in their make-up, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm feeling like someone wants to control me, and puppet master me. I stand by it that he likely doesn't hate you at all, and I'm not saying this to encourage you, it's worse for him to be indifferent, but I do believe that is what he is. To say he'd be overjoyed at you being hurt, is just twisted. And like 3588Pisces said your thinking is weird, and typical 'own worst enemy' scoripionic. And like pocketchange over there said - living in the past, continuing to look back - how would you expect your life to look different, if you're never accepting new terrain.
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Believe me deezie, he hates me. He says nasty things about me to his friends--I've even seen them staring at me & talking about me in public places--and he always either gives me a nasty look or does a d
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does a double-take everytime he sees me somewhere. He can't just walk/drive past me without having a reaction to me. He has said nasty things to me too. That's why I said he would be happy if something happened to me so that he would never have to lay eyes on me again. He hates it that we live in the same town, but I can't move because I just got here two months ago and locked into a lease. He needs to hurry up and join the Coast Guard if he despises my presence in his city so much.
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deezie
@deezie
19 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

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Well... you would know better than I. But like I was saying before - it turns to indifference when we aren't around that person anymore. So yes, probably having to see you is inflaming something within him. Do your best to stay away. If you are friends with people that know him, don't talk about him to them, if you must be involved with them at all ( I get that you're new in town, but try to make some friends that aren't involved with him in any facet).

@dimeguy - you're going to leave you figuring yourself out up to your future wife—? I'm lost, clearly...
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MermaidPrincess
@MermaidPrincess
13 Years

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Seriously, he reacts even if he just sees me out walking on the sidewalk while driving his car. He literally stuck his head out the window as he drove past last time, and I know he knew it was me! Until he signs up for the service and goes away, he's just gonna have to suck it up like an adult and accept the fact that we now live in the same town. He was the one who wanted that to happen, so now he has to deal with it.
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