Would a Pisces moon outright reject someone?

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The story is just that I'm a Virgo female (Virgo sun, Capricorn moon, if it helps) and up until a few weeks ago, I used to work with this guy (Taurus sun, Pisces moon) as his lab partner. I really liked him and I told him that twice. The first time was an accident, I let it slip while playing an April Fools prank on him. I kept him in the dark initially and owned up to it in the end. I thought I was pretty clear about it all and he seemed much more open to me after that incident. Several things happened in the next few months that led me to believe that he returned my feelings. After graduation (his, not mine), I brought up the April Fools incident hoping for an answer from him. He asked me 'You aren't kidding though?' and I assured him I'm not and explained what happened on April Fools from my perspective and clarified, yet again, that I do like him. Since then, he's been ignoring everything I say related to that, he's completely normal while talking about other stuff though. At first, I assumed that he probably isn't interested in me but doesn't know how to tell me so I told him that it's fine if he isn't interested, he should just say so and I wouldn't feel bad. When that didn't work, I tried my fool-proof method, pestering him for an answer until he gave me one and typically, he would get annoyed and tell me whatever I was asking for. This time though, my fool-proof method failed.

I'm wondering if the reason he won't tell me he's not interested is just because he's Pisces moon and feels bad about rejecting people or because he's actually interested but there are other issues, like any relationship we decide to have being a long distance one, which are cumbersome or that he's super sensitive and doesn't trust me entirely since I did tell him I liked him on April Fools so I could still be lying, etc.

What do y'all think? Are Pisces really that considerate as to not reject someone because it would hurt their feelings even though it's the easier and the logical thing to do?
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Okay... I think this should be on the Taurus board, but if you are asking ONLY from the Pisces perspective this is what my instincts are telling me.

"The first time was an accident, I let it slip while playing an April Fools prank on him."

Ah... NEVER a good way to tell a Taurus and Pisces about that. We don't f*ck around with matters of the heart. Strike one.

"I kept him in the dark initially and owned up to it in the end"

How I'm reading this is that you said I like you. April Fools... but months later you are saying. You know that whole April Fools Tomfoolery... Yeah. I actually meant that. Ah... Strike two see the same reason above. You're messing with our emotions (both signs hate this) and now your wish washy (bulls hate that).


"I thought I was pretty clear about it all and he seemed much more open to me after that incident."

He could have just been intrigued by your behavior. Pisces do this. You intrigue us...we will stick around for the show.



"Several things happened in the next few months that led me to believe that he returned my feelings."

For instance? Need more information on this one.

"Since then, he's been ignoring everything I say related to that, he's completely normal while talking about other stuff though."

Mmm yeah! You're or were playing mind games. Neither sign tolerate this, ESPECIALLY with matters of the heart. We can talk about anything else, just not that. You're unreliable.

"At first, I assumed that he probably isn't interested in me but doesn't know how to tell me so I told him that it's fine if he isn't interested, he should just say so and I wouldn't feel bad. When that didn't work, I tried my fool-proof method, pestering him for an answer until he gave me one and typically, he would get annoyed and tell me whatever I was asking for. This time though, my fool-proof method failed."

Never EVER a good idea with a Pisces or a bull. Pisces...we will tell you something to get you out of our face and to get back to normal with less confrontation Second...you're poking a bull. A BULL! Nothing more needs to be said.


"because he's actually interested but there are other issues"

Nope. I'm the reverse as him. Pisces sun with Taurus moon. I would have absolutely NO interest in you in that arena.


"I'm wondering if the reason he won't tell me he's not interested is just because he's Pisces moon and feels bad about rejecting people"

Could be... Pisces would be nice even if they don't like you... just how we are built. Taurus will have absolutely nothing to do with you if they don't like you, unless they have to i.e. you work with them (and you do) and they will keep your interactions with just that. Work.
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"we decide to have being a long distance one"

Wait, what? You're contradicting yourself here. When was this discussed? This is out of the blue with the context of your whole post. Doesn't add up. Need more information.

"he's super sensitive and doesn't trust me entirely since I did tell him I liked him on April Fools so I could still be lying, etc."

Well, not to be rude, but duh! That's not him being super sensitive that you is playing mind games and you did that with the wrong signs. Honestly, why would he trust you? He has NO to reason to. You're going back and forth and when you decided to finally let the cat out the bag, you're getting on him and pressuring him to let you know how he feels on your time.

It's ALL wrong! Even if he needed the time to sort things out and just observe you after he knows how you feel, you get on him for not telling you how he feels, all the while you were playing games. Even if he was interested, you smothered and killed that possibility with your games and your insistence to not let the man be. He's gone.

I think he is just a nice person being nice to you after all that mess. I say if he wants you, he will tell you. But my instincts are that you killed it and shot it in the face while it was dead on the ground and then peed on it. Don't want to be harsh, but it's true.

One thing that both of these signs desire is PEACE, LOVE, HARMONY. You have disrupted all three. Sorry, but no dice. It's over.
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Okay... I think this should be on the Taurus board, but if you are asking ONLY

No, what I was trying to say was this: I accidentally told him I liked him during April Fools, to which he asked me if he should take this seriously or not. I refused to answer that for a few hours, after which I told him that the quitting lab part (the prank part of the conversation) was a prank. He ignored me for the whole weekend until I saw him in person, the Monday after. When I did, I apologized for the prank and told him I actually do like him. That's when he turned red and told me he would text me about it later but never brought it up, but starting the next day, he started being overly friendly and all and I had no idea why. He was actually much more open with me after, as much as sharing his feelings, etc. He even asked me to lunch at one point and seemed super nervous about it but he had to cancel and seemed genuinely upset about it.

I know what I was doing with annoying him, it's just something that works on him when I need an answer and he's not willing to give one if I just ask once. He usually just gives me whatever I want when I do that, just to get rid of me so it seemed logical that since I was asking him to tell me he's not interested, he would just do so and get on with his life but refuses to tell me even that, which I find odd.

My sister is Pisces sun and moon and she was the one who suggested that he might just be too nice to turn me down, even if he's not interested but that's based on how she thinks as a Pisces. I'm not sure how reliable her perspective would be since she has A LOT of water in her chart, along with the Pisces sun and moon and is generally a very mellow person.

What do you think after the clarification?
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When that didn't work, I tried my fool-proof method, pestering him for an answer until he gave me one .....



How insufferable ..... not to mention extremely insecure.

You don't present yourself as sincere, at all ... you sound like a robot, working a situation to your favor.


But, most of all ... he's a fucking Taurus, not a Pisces.


You are definitely attempting to manipulate him ... when you could just be a grown up and leave the man alone. But, noooooo .... instead you're trying to make him feel guilty, or make him feel responsible for your lack of self worth .. it's disgusting.


My hope is that he realizes you're a manipulative douchebag, and drops you off at the next curb,
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Okay... I think this should be on the Taurus board, but if you are asking ONLY

No, what I was trying to say was this: I accidentally told him I liked him during April Fools, to which he asked me if he should take this seriously or not. I refused to answer that for a few hours, after which I told him that the quitting lab part (the prank part of the conversation) was a prank. He ignored me for the whole weekend until I saw him in person, the Monday after. When I did, I apologized for the prank and told him I actually do like him. That's when he turned red and told me he would text me about it later but never brought it up, but starting the next day, he started being overly friendly and all and I had no idea why. He was actually much more open with me after, as much as sharing his feelings, etc. He even asked me to lunch at one point and seemed super nervous about it but he had to cancel and seemed genuinely upset about it.

I know what I was doing with annoying him, it's just something that works on him when I need an answer and he's not willing to give one if I just ask once. He usually just gives me whatever I want when I do that, just to get rid of me so it seemed logical that since I was asking him to tell me he's not interested, he would just do so and get on with his life but refuses to tell me even that, which I find odd.

My sister is Pisces sun and moon and she was the one who suggested that he might just be too nice to turn me down, even if he's not interested but that's based on how she thinks as a Pisces. I'm not sure how reliable her perspective would be since she has A LOT of water in her chart, along with the Pisces sun and moon and is generally a very mellow person.

What do you think after the clarification?
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Quite honestly... I'm more confused than anything. In my brain, which tends to overthink things, is analyzing everything.

Just doesn't add up. I'm not saying you're lying, just saying it doesn't make sense.

The sharing feelings and stuff suggests he was interested in you...could be only friends though.

Question... when he asked you to lunch and cancelled...Did he reschedule?

Pisces are good for making plans and flaking out for some bogus reason that may seem valid. He may had intentions on fulfilling them at first them contemplated then was like nah and flaked. HUGE piece to the puzzle...did he reschedule.

I can tell you right here and now, if he likes you more than friends. I will discuss why after you give me that answer.
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Quite honestly... I'm more confused than anything. In my brain, which tends to overthink things, is analyzing everything.

Just doesn't add up. I'm not saying you're lying, just saying it doesn't make sense.

The sharing feelings and stuff suggests he was interested in you...could be only friends though.

Question... when he asked you to lunch and cancelled...Did he reschedule?

Pisces are good for making plans and flaking out for some bogus reason that may seem valid. He may had intentions on fulfilling them at first them contemplated then was like nah and flaked. HUGE piece to the puzzle...did he reschedule.

I can tell you right here and now, if he likes you more than friends. I will discuss why after you give me that answer.




Here's what happened with that: I asked him on a Wednesday if we could run an experiment and he said yes at first but then said he was too tired and then mumbled that maybe we could discuss the experiment over lunch on Friday. I wasn't even sure if I heard him right so I confirmed that's what he said and it was. I don't know what we would've discussed since there was nothing to 'discuss', we just needed to run it so asking me to lunch was completely unnecessary. A few days went by and I texted him Friday morning-afternoonish asking if we're still on for lunch. He said he forgot he had a meeting during that time (I knew about the meeting and had been wondering how he planned to have lunch with me and attend the meeting at the same time). He seemed genuinely upset about canceling on me though, based on how he spoke but no, he didn't reschedule. I think he may have just changed his mind about starting anything with me.

Here's something else that happened: Maybe a week ago, I'd spoken to him about something on facebook messenger, on which I'd recently set his name to some random pun (I'm weird like that). I spoke to him and near the end, I got mad about something so in an attempt to cold-shoulder him, I changed his bad pun nickname to his actual name. The next time I spoke to him, he was cold and uber formal with me. I wondered about what had changed and literally nothing had changed other than the nickname. I changed his real name back to his nickname, to see what he would do and the next time I spoke to him, he was back to his normal, friendly, and informal self. What do you make of that?
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He could have been in a bad mood. I don't even know if we other people can see the "nicknames" we apply on FB.


So...based on this and the other, I would say that your "relationship" is based off strictly work/friendship. Nothing more.

The reason I say this is because, he could have very well forgot about the meeting. Happens all the time, but him not making the lunch up with another quickly scheduled one speaks volumes! Things happen, but Taurus is not known for standing people up. Pisces...hit or miss (we most likely cancel right at the last minute or...don't say anything and hope the other person forgets. It's horrible, yes, but we do this). But he IS a bull. He would make it up. Also, with Pisces in the mix, the objects of our affection gets all the attention the world, even if we don't want to talk. May take us a bit to make ourselves talk to you, but we will that day or the next at the very latest. If we don't want to be around people, for some odd reason that doesn't apply to the object of our affection.

Based on this behavior of being flippant of the lunch, I would say he isn't interested in that way. That along with the other stuff.

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But then why doesn't he just say so? It would make his life much easier to not have me constantly in his face (I'm not actually but when I made it a point to annoy him, I definitely was and he didn't even lose his temper).

Is he just being nice at this point? Or he knows that after he hands over all the information to me, we really have nothing to do with each other. He didn't seem to like me cutting him off completely though, as in, my acting like a formal contact.

Btw, the other person can see the nicknames, I have them for everyone I frequently message and they can all see the nicknames, I know he can see it too.

I don't think he was flippant of the lunch, he just forgot about the meeting and he was typically busy most of the last few weeks but it did seem odd that he didn't do a rain check.

Should I even bother staying friends with him anymore? He doesn't initiate conversations.
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But then why doesn't he just say so? It would make his life much easier to not have me constantly in his face



So, it's his fault that you lack self control, so therefore, put yourself in his face ... where you don't belong btw, and have zero business get in his face about something you do yourself.



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He said he forgot he had a meeting during that time (I knew about the meeting and had been wondering how he planned to have lunch with me and attend the meeting at the same time).

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You could also make your life easier by just saying so, if you know something ... instead, you want to call him out for the same crime you do yourself.

You withheld information ... and in the next breath, accuse him of being in error with himself for not giving you information ..... and you're so smothering and controlling that you put him on notice to atone for himself.



You don't even have the integrity to practice what you preach .. and there you are imposing this upon him, like a pompous bitch.



Damn, I hate it when school lets out ... I can't wait until Sept, so we can get back to mature content on the boards.
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Lol you really have it out for me don't you? Well let me clear something up since you broached the topic: I'm not blaming him for it, all I was saying was that I knew about the meeting because it's a regular one. Since he set up lunch during that time, I assumed that maybe the meeting was cancelled since he would know his schedule better than me. I realized he just forgot about it when he said there actually is a meeting. I'm not blaming him for anything, I just didn't want someone suggesting that he just made up the meeting.

I don't know why you're so convinced that I'm out to get him, I actually like the guy.

Btw, mature is when you actually listen to what someone has to say and consider it from their perspective before you decide that they're just inherently a bad person.
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The story is just that I'm a Virgo female (Virgo sun, Capricorn moon, if it helps) and up until a few weeks ago, I used to work with this guy (Taurus sun, Pisces moon) as his lab partner. I really liked him and I told him that twice. The first time was an accident, I let it slip while playing an April Fools prank on him. I kept him in the dark initially and owned up to it in the end. I thought I was pretty clear about it all and he seemed much more open to me after that incident. Several things happened in the next few months that led me to believe that he returned my feelings. After graduation (his, not mine), I brought up the April Fools incident hoping for an answer from him. He asked me 'You aren't kidding though?' and I assured him I'm not and explained what happened on April Fools from my perspective and clarified, yet again, that I do like him. Since then, he's been ignoring everything I say related to that, he's completely normal while talking about other stuff though. At first, I assumed that he probably isn't interested in me but doesn't know how to tell me so I told him that it's fine if he isn't interested, he should just say so and I wouldn't feel bad. When that didn't work, I tried my fool-proof method, pestering him for an answer until he gave me one and typically, he would get annoyed and tell me whatever I was asking for. This time though, my fool-proof method failed.

I'm wondering if the reason he won't tell me he's not interested is just because he's Pisces moon and feels bad about rejecting people or because he's actually interested but there are other issues, like any relationship we decide to have being a long distance one, which are cumbersome or that he's super sensitive and doesn't trust me entirely since I did tell him I liked him on April Fools so I could still be lying, etc.

What do y'all think? Are Pisces really that considerate as to not reject someone because it would hurt their feelings even though it's the easier and the logical thing to do?
Why do you ASSUME his reaction is related to his moon—?? Why does EVERYTHING have to evolve around the moon———?

No, if he didn't like you, he would tell you so! If he did, he would tell you so. His TRUE zodiac sign is his "sun" sign...Taurus. Concentrate more on his zodiac sign. I will. Taurus (from what I have learned {open now} and read from this forum) are people who keep their feelings to themselves. And if they trust you, then you are welcomed within their inner circle. Since you played a "joke on him" and then reversed that, you confused the poor guy and doesn't have any obligation to respond to your inquisitive question...he's NOT inquisitive...you are.

🤗 cyber hug!

Love,

Eva
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@tbird-replies to your comment as well


@EvatheDiva

I actually posted this in the Taurus forum as well, to see what they thought and a lot of them said the same thing as you did, that he probably does/did like me but he either doesn't trust me thanks to the April fools thing (i mean, he asked me 'you aren't joking though?' when I brought it up again in the past few weeks, which just tells me about the lack of trust there, or he was hoping I was joking again and he wouldn't have to deal with this drama). Other reasons could just be that we're in different places and won't see each other a few years at least so any relationship we would've had would be long distance and he may not want that and he assumed that I would want it because why else would I tell him NOW that I actually do like him?

Or he just plain doesn't care about any of this..what do y'all think now?
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But then why doesn't he just say so? It would make his life much easier to not have me constantly in his face (I'm not actually but when I made it a point to annoy him, I definitely was and he didn't even lose his temper).

Is he just being nice at this point? Or he knows that after he hands over all the information to me, we really have nothing to do with each other. He didn't seem to like me cutting him off completely though, as in, my acting like a formal contact.

Btw, the other person can see the nicknames, I have them for everyone I frequently message and they can all see the nicknames, I know he can see it too.

I don't think he was flippant of the lunch, he just forgot about the meeting and he was typically busy most of the last few weeks but it did seem odd that he didn't do a rain check.

Should I even bother staying friends with him anymore? He doesn't initiate conversations.
If it was me and I was doing that, it would be because I'm being nice and I don't want to cause any awkward feelings between us especially since you two work together. I would hope that you would drop it or me neglecting to speak about it would help the feelings wane or you loose interest. A form of having you take a hint without having the guilt of rejecting someone or saying a douchy thing.
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Could be.. You never know and I can't say for certain. I would suggest follow his lead. Pisces don't mind when people mirror them.

If he talks about nothing but work, follow suit. If he has a problem with that he will break the mold or ask what's wrong. If he doesn't say anything, then yeah... That's how he wants it.
That's what I've been doing recently, I only talk to him when I have a work question that only he can answer.

The thing is, he's a Taurus, who don't typically initiate conversations in general and he's very busy as well so he has even less time. I guess it's just time to move on from it all. It doesn't really matter anyway since I'll most likely never see him again and even if I do, I'll definitely never end up working with him.
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"I wondered about what had changed and literally nothing had changed other than the nickname. I changed his real name back to his nickname, to see what he would do ... "



Yeah... you seem to do a lot of things just to see what

kind of reaction you will get.

The April fool's joke being the first we learned in the OP.

This behaviour is unsettling to me... people aren't lab rats.

I might like you just fine, but I wouldn't date you.

No offense intended, either... just offering some insight.

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Omg you are exhausting and sound too emotionally, mentally and spiritually immature to even be in a relationship. I cringe and want to barf everytime I think about that stupid, ridiculous April Fool's joke. Such a cruel cruel thing to do to someone. You seem flakey, unreliable, insecure and another dose of flakey, as a Pisces I despise flakes, I'll be nice to you in your face, I'll talk to you casually, but you are no one I would take seriously or value in my life personally because I don't trust you.
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"I wondered about what had changed and literally nothing had changed other than the nickname. I changed his real name back to his nickname, to see what he would do ... "



Yeah... you seem to do a lot of things just to see what

kind of reaction you will get.

The April fool's joke being the first we learned in the OP.

This behaviour is unsettling to me... people aren't lab rats.

I might like you just fine, but I wouldn't date you.

No offense intended, either... just offering some insight.




Exactly. She likes to play immature, kindergarten games. You aren't dealing with a preschooler, in fact he is probably a grown man and not a teenager since he graduated.

He will turn his interest towards a more mature woman because the games you play are silly, foolish and reek of something a teenager would do.
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"I wondered about what had changed and literally nothing had changed other than the nickname. I changed his real name back to his nickname, to see what he would do ... "



Yeah... you seem to do a lot of things just to see what

kind of reaction you will get.

The April fool's joke being the first we learned in the OP.

This behaviour is unsettling to me... people aren't lab rats.

I might like you just fine, but I wouldn't date you.

No offense intended, either... just offering some insight.




Exactly. She likes to play immature, kindergarten games. You aren't dealing with a preschooler, in fact he is probably a grown man and not a teenager since he graduated.

He will turn his interest towards a more mature woman because the games you play are silly, foolish and reek of something a teenager would do.

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@ malloryor - Probably because I am a teenager? But yeah, you're right about it, I act like a childish idiot when I like someone, mainly because I actually care about that person a little too much.

He didn't seem to care when he asked me to lunch though.

@Montgomery - none taken, that probably is how a lot of people feel about me. I'm a scientist by profession so I treat all unknown territories as experiments. The unknown territory here being dating.

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Honestly I find it hard to believe that if he was really interested, he wouldn't have done anything about it. You would know if he felt the same. And if he is just "unsure" abot his feelings towards you, they're obviously not strong enough that you should care. I'm a Leo sun & rising so I should be direct, which I am when I WANT someone, but rejecting people is a different story. I do realize avoidance and dishonesty are probably worse in the end for the other person. I only feel the need to spare feelings if I like the other person as a human/on a friendship level, though, which sounds like it could similiar to your situation.


The hurdle that I saw was that he was graduating and moving 15 hours away so the chances of seeing me again were slim. If I was in his place, I probably wouldn't say anything either because long distance relationships suck and i'd have a new life to start.

It could definitely also be what you said about rejecting someone. As partners and friends, we synced pretty well together and I'm a nice person in general so I can see how this might be an attempt to spare my feelings.
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@The Empress,

He's NOT interested. Bulls are slow to initiate, however, there are some consistent patterns that are shown to let you know when they're interested.

1. Constant probing, questions/answers about yourself. We're trying to feel you out.

2. Reliability..........cancellation would have been met with an immediate apology following a possible reschedule.

3. He would have playfully teased you. Flirted a little. Real subtle touches, nothing peversed, physical touches to put you at ease.

4. He would have been more delighted if you asked him out, lets him off the hook, many Bulls can be rather shy and introverted. But he didn't care. As if you were screaming, and he was intentionally pretending that he didn't hear you.

There are Virgos...and there are Weirgos.

You're a Weirgo who did everything to turn off a Taurus man.

1. Passive aggressive, indirect, game-playing. Bulls move linear. We're straightforward. No game chasing. State what you're looking for, and be consistent with what you're looking for.

2. To add insult to injury, to redeem yourself, you decided to shove your interest down his throat. We hate being rushed, pushed, or forced into doing anything...real bad move.

3. Things have to flow organically with Bulls. The real decent ones prefer a gradual courtship,rather than a forced relationship. You killed any chance of a decent courtship, you're too mechanical, too controlling, too methodical.

He's also Venusian, which means the 'robotic' approach you're going with here would have landed you in the friend-zone pretty quickly.

My advice, save some level of integrity and dignity, and spare yourself from any further embarrassment.
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IMO,this has nothing to do with his Sun/moon sign..have you asked yorself if he has someone in his life?do you know about his life experiences?some men actually hate when a woman makes the first move it doesn't matter what their sun/moon sign is what do you really want to hear him say?No,I can't date you?isn't it pretty obvious?I think silence means NO in this case because of all your mind games.