
duchesslibro
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Posted by HemispheresWhat do you think about this part of my post..?
Lets talk about homeless americans. How can we ignore them but offer housing to refugees?

Posted by LuckyLibra979It's not a proposed process. It's already been in place and functioning..
I don't think is the time. They should at least have to go thru the process proposed yet rejected and why? Common sense calls.for that hell we have to get background checks just to function here and we're american so why reject this?
And also, their coming from a country full of suspect behavior now just isn't the time. We have enough problems amongst ourselves its just not a good idea. And that bill should have been passed

Posted by WhiteChocolateYa good luck with that. Americans are stupid af and blindly believe everything said by news medias. Asdkfj they found a Syrian passport of a suicide bomber, fuck there's no time to think how that's logically even possible, those mofos better not be let in my damn country *cocks gun*
I agree with that last part Duchess. As it stands now, ISIS has been found to be giving their operatives fake passports to give the impression Syrian refugees are terrorists. ISIS is hoping to make western powers refuse the refugees, essentially turning their backs on them and driving them right into the hands of ISIS recruiters. It's very calculated.
The west's best play is to welcome the refugees with open arms and show them not every westerner is a bigot.


Posted by LuckyLibra979The current process in place takes 18-24 months.Posted by duchesslibroO is it? I thought the bill that got rejected was one that called for a deeper check and longer process I could be wrongPosted by LuckyLibra979It's not a proposed process. It's already been in place and functioning..
I don't think is the time. They should at least have to go thru the process proposed yet rejected and why? Common sense calls.for that hell we have to get background checks just to function here and we're american so why reject this?
And also, their coming from a country full of suspect behavior now just isn't the time. We have enough problems amongst ourselves its just not a good idea. And that bill should have been passed
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Posted by LuckyLibra979It doesn't matter if you don't. We are a minority. The majority do and that's the problem. I mean c'mon DONALD TRUMP IS LEADING GOP, that says so much about the mentality of Americans.Posted by SassyKiwiNot everybody over here believes the shit they put out. I know I dontPosted by WhiteChocolateYa good luck with that. Americans are stupid af and blindly believe everything said by news medias. Asdkfj they found a Syrian passport of a suicide bomber, fuck there's no time to think how that's logically even possible, those mofos better not be let in my damn country *cocks gun*
I agree with that last part Duchess. As it stands now, ISIS has been found to be giving their operatives fake passports to give the impression Syrian refugees are terrorists. ISIS is hoping to make western powers refuse the refugees, essentially turning their backs on them and driving them right into the hands of ISIS recruiters. It's very calculated.
The west's best play is to welcome the refugees with open arms and show them not every westerner is a bigot.
Donald Trump has actually been gaining support over this shit. It's so disgusting.click to expand

Posted by WhiteChocolateI don't know how this is not glaringly obvious to people.Posted by LuckyLibra979Their "victory" is establishing Sharia law across the globe. Their plan is recruiting the downtrodden and disillusioned into their cause and tearing down western powers from within. Refugees are potential recruits to them. By turning them away, we just create desperation, and desperate people do desperate things...like align themselves with first group....extremist or not....willing to help.Posted by WhiteChocolateThey don't care either way. Their victory isn't in winning a war theirs is in losing it . They think the destruction of them will spark a war amongst other nations and it may since we're all approaching supporting different sides
I agree with that last part Duchess. As it stands now, ISIS has been found to be giving their operatives fake passports to give the impression Syrian refugees are terrorists. ISIS is hoping to make western powers refuse the refugees, essentially turning their backs on them and driving them right into the hands of ISIS recruiters. It's very calculated.
The west's best play is to welcome the refugees with open arms and show them not every westerner is a bigot.
Hezbollah has been using this tactic for years.click to expand

Posted by LuckyLibra979Spread the word my friend. People need to understand reality.Posted by duchesslibroHmmm......I never thought about thatPosted by LuckyLibra979The current process in place takes 18-24 months.Posted by duchesslibroO is it? I thought the bill that got rejected was one that called for a deeper check and longer process I could be wrongPosted by LuckyLibra979It's not a proposed process. It's already been in place and functioning..
I don't think is the time. They should at least have to go thru the process proposed yet rejected and why? Common sense calls.for that hell we have to get background checks just to function here and we're american so why reject this?
And also, their coming from a country full of suspect behavior now just isn't the time. We have enough problems amongst ourselves its just not a good idea. And that bill should have been passed
It's easier by far to just come into the US as a tourist or say you're on a business trip. ISIS is probably laughing their faces off that we are even remotely concerned about refugees.click to expand




Posted by QboneI'm so with you. The concept of nationalism simply do not resonate with me at all. I definitely appreciate some of the things my nation provides but I guess technically I'm unpatriotic. I'm really not a fan of extremism in any form.. It seems so unrealistic to me. Blinds people to reality.
You cannot stop the migrations (refugees or not), the planet EARTH belongs to the HUMAN/ANIMAL kind including insects.
Are you muricans are different than the human kind..?
How ever.! If you want to stop terrorism, you need to stop these guys. They control the strings.
Halliburton
Shell
Exxon
BP
Lockheed
Boeing
Novartis and Pfizer [ Big Pharma ]
Etc.........
Opppsss… seems all are muricans..!




Posted by QboneLots of intelligent, independent thinking Americans acknowledge this fact. Every individual American does not get to determine exactly what happens. That's how democracy is supposed to work. Hating all Americans because of the majority is no better morally than hating all Muslims because of their minority.
Al-queda was aided and funded by the CIA...
Experts debate whether or not the al-Qaeda attacks were blowback from the American CIA's "Operation Cyclone" program to help the Afghan mujahideen. Robin Cook, British Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2001, has written that al-Qaeda and bin Laden were "a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies", and that "Al-Qaida, literally 'the database', was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda#Alleged_CIA_involvement
IS/ISIS/ISIL is a transformation of Al-Qaida as the result of illegal war in Iraq. The one you irresponsible COWARD yanks never accepted the fact. After murdering/butchering of millions and the creating another millions of refugees with no reason at all! Now sitting with your ultimate bigotry!
Shall we allow to their (entry) in our beloved country or not..?
FUCK YOU ALL!






Posted by QboneVery interesting. I wasn't aware. A quick google indicates they are a blend of ancient Zoroastrian/Mesopotamian and some early Sufi/Islam.
Most of these people (Syrian ONLY), are neither Muslims nor Christians they are (YAZIDI)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis
They have been chased/killed by both Christians and (Sunni Muslims) because of their religion since hundreds of years ago!
You don’t have to give them “citizenships privileges” by entering the US borders, but you can shelter them until this idiotic “war on error” “created by the American/NATO policies” calms down…. Right..?
You will/shall support the species, no matter the color/belief/race… right..?

Posted by QboneBe brave enough to start and engage in conversations that matter.
By the way..
duchesslibro
Gutsy of you to start this topic.
thank you..

Posted by duchesslibroThis is how a terrorist is born. Few psychopaths from a movement they've made under falsehood (claiming to be Islamic) kills people in the western countries and in return a huge number of people pay the price.
our country is bombing their homeland.
.

Posted by Vegetta91Where in Islam is it promoting hatred and violence?Posted by duchesslibroFanaticism can change people to do stupid things and the problem is that somehow their religion promotes violence despite muslims claiming that they are promoting peacePosted by QboneVery interesting. I wasn't aware. A quick google indicates they are a blend of ancient Zoroastrian/Mesopotamian and some early Sufi/Islam.
Most of these people (Syrian ONLY), are neither Muslims nor Christians they are (YAZIDI)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis
They have been chased/killed by both Christians and (Sunni Muslims) because of their religion since hundreds of years ago!
You don’t have to give them “citizenships privileges” by entering the US borders, but you can shelter them until this idiotic “war on error” “created by the American/NATO policies” calms down…. Right..?
You will/shall support the species, no matter the color/belief/race… right..?
And yes, save the humans, regardless of ethnicity/religion/ political stance. (Sun sign 🙂 ha)click to expand



Posted by Vegetta91You don't speak for me so shh. You are welcome to leave too if you want.Posted by DamnataLet;s not talk about Romania 🙂), we all know that those who come here will leave pretty soon
4236 refugees already here, with more to come.
You see talk show hosts talking shit but all the people I spoke with share my views about this people not being a national threat or danger.
Romanians talk a lot of smack but at the end of the day, we really have no problems with it.
The only concern is the economy of this country and how many can we get in considering we're a small country.
No clashes, no conflict, no wall of barbed wire. People don't even know 4000 are already here.click to expand

Posted by Vegetta91Don't forget to ask for Transylvania on the way out. 1000498543459 time is the charm!Posted by Damnatahaha when i will put on a turban and declare myself an economical immigrantPosted by Vegetta91You don't speak for me so shh. You are welcome to leave too if you want.Posted by DamnataLet;s not talk about Romania 🙂), we all know that those who come here will leave pretty soon
4236 refugees already here, with more to come.
You see talk show hosts talking shit but all the people I spoke with share my views about this people not being a national threat or danger.
Romanians talk a lot of smack but at the end of the day, we really have no problems with it.
The only concern is the economy of this country and how many can we get in considering we're a small country.
No clashes, no conflict, no wall of barbed wire. People don't even know 4000 are already here.
Meanwhile OP asked about multiple perspectives so I'm talking to her.click to expand

Posted by Vegetta91Actually it's completely on-topic because in my OP i specifically asked for opinions from people who have more experience with this than Americans, meaning European mostly. I believe Germany has welcomed in more Syrian refugees than any other country. I could be wrong.Posted by tizianiPeople from Europe who have the same opinion on this matter as me, that's why i said off topic because it's not American relatedPosted by Vegetta91who's "we"?Posted by QboneBut the problem is you cannot tell who is who, most of them have no Id cards or papers
Most of these people (Syrian ONLY), are neither Muslims nor Christians they are (YAZIDI)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis
They have been chased/killed by both Christians and (Sunni Muslims) because of their religion since hundreds of years ago!
You don’t have to give them “citizenships privileges” by entering the US borders, but you can shelter them until this idiotic “war on error” “created by the American/NATO policies” calms down…. Right..?
You will/shall support the species, no matter the color/belief/race… right..?
The war will never end and if it ends (highly unlikely ) a new one will begin
We from Europe are afraid that in a very short time we will become a minority in Europe which we cannot accept since we have fought for it and to just give it up to some one who doesn't even have the same cultures as we do
Germany (polticians ) glady accepted them but the people have begun torching the refuge camps and such and i cannot blame them
They are no war refuges they are Economical refuges , they get around 1500 euros if i remember correctly which is pretty high considering that some members from the EU earn less per month
With that in mind i should become an Economical refuge myself🙂)
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Posted by Vegetta91What do you think IsIS is doing if you take their inner agenda out? Taking revenge as well. It's okay for powerful countries to go around killing people and when these smaller people take revenge, then the big countries also take revenge but on a larger scale.Posted by aquarius09It's called revenge , welcome to the worldPosted by duchesslibroThis is how a terrorist is born. Few psychopaths from a movement they've made under falsehood (claiming to be Islamic) kills people in the western countries and in return a huge number of people pay the price.
our country is bombing their homeland.
.
170 some people died in France by the hands of a few crazies and France takes the terrorist role and goes and kills 700+ innocent people who had no part to play in Paris attacks.
No brainwashing is required. All that's needed is loss of your entire family, you being the sole survivor left wondering why you got punished for someone else's bad psychopathic behaviour. That would drive anyone insane or make someone vengeful.
ISIS' head perpetrators are manipulative crazies, but the growing number in ISIS is comprised of these victims who lost their family at the hands of terrorism by America and France.
If the muslims cannot destroy the terrorist organizations ( that they form after all) than they shouldn't wonder why revenge is always on the agenda and innocent people die everyday, wrong place wrong time
That's what happens in a 3 world country where Americans, Russians and who knows who else decided to raise their political influence..click to expand

Posted by Vegetta91Posted by aquarius09For example a husband can kill his wife if she cheated on him , that's very peaceful to mePosted by Vegetta91Where in Islam is it promoting hatred and violence?Posted by duchesslibroFanaticism can change people to do stupid things and the problem is that somehow their religion promotes violence despite muslims claiming that they are promoting peacePosted by QboneVery interesting. I wasn't aware. A quick google indicates they are a blend of ancient Zoroastrian/Mesopotamian and some early Sufi/Islam.
Most of these people (Syrian ONLY), are neither Muslims nor Christians they are (YAZIDI)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis
They have been chased/killed by both Christians and (Sunni Muslims) because of their religion since hundreds of years ago!
You don’t have to give them “citizenships privileges” by entering the US borders, but you can shelter them until this idiotic “war on error” “created by the American/NATO policies” calms down…. Right..?
You will/shall support the species, no matter the color/belief/race… right..?
And yes, save the humans, regardless of ethnicity/religion/ political stance. (Sun sign 🙂 ha)
Fanaticism changes people to be violent? Really now? What would you call France for bombing Syria and kililng bunch of innocent civilians? What would you call America for killing bunch of Afghans and Iraqis in their so called "war on terror"? Because governments don't have a religion, we are not going to attack them? Okay there, you lil hick.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4b4_1370381940<div class="bqfade">click to expand


Posted by Vegetta91They were always losing under their oppression. These powerful countries are powerful because they oppress and insert their power over weaker countries that have natural resources they want. Rising up to them isn't exactly losing. It's called retaliation to the oppression. Yes, they may kill westerners in small amounts but it nevertheless is killing of innocent. Innocent lives lost everywhere so who's winning? The insidious governments that create puppets like ISIS to do their dirty work.Posted by aquarius09True but you don't mess with people more powerful then you because in the end game you will losePosted by Vegetta91What do you think IsIS is doing if you take their inner agenda out? Taking revenge as well. It's okay for powerful countries to go around killing people and when these smaller people take revenge, then the big countries also take revenge but on a larger scale.Posted by aquarius09It's called revenge , welcome to the worldPosted by duchesslibroThis is how a terrorist is born. Few psychopaths from a movement they've made under falsehood (claiming to be Islamic) kills people in the western countries and in return a huge number of people pay the price.
our country is bombing their homeland.
.
170 some people died in France by the hands of a few crazies and France takes the terrorist role and goes and kills 700+ innocent people who had no part to play in Paris attacks.
No brainwashing is required. All that's needed is loss of your entire family, you being the sole survivor left wondering why you got punished for someone else's bad psychopathic behaviour. That would drive anyone insane or make someone vengeful.
ISIS' head perpetrators are manipulative crazies, but the growing number in ISIS is comprised of these victims who lost their family at the hands of terrorism by America and France.
If the muslims cannot destroy the terrorist organizations ( that they form after all) than they shouldn't wonder why revenge is always on the agenda and innocent people die everyday, wrong place wrong time
That's what happens in a 3 world country where Americans, Russians and who knows who else decided to raise their political influence..
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/24/watch-syrian-rebels-blow-up-a-russian-made-helicopter/ , so Turkey is involed with ISIS which was to be expectedclick to expand

Posted by Vegetta91You can try to annoy me all you want but you really should read more.
And about Romania, most of the muslims that are already here are located in Dobrogea
And just to annoy Damnata a bit more Iohannis is only willing to take in a total of 1,785 refugees and plans to reject Juncker's proposed allotment of 4,646. and that was in september

Posted by Vegetta91Where women can drive too.Posted by MontgomeryIn what way free?
What is the CLOSEST UN Member state that's
Free?
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Posted by Vegetta91Exactly! All of these terrorist organizations are just puppets for the big powers to do their dirty work because they have to upkeep their reputation as "civilized" and "human rights oriented". P
That's easy, the strong one's why? because what are a few lives worth to them against natural resources? besides the world will soon not be able the support us ,
Posted by duchesslibroTrump in the ONLY candidate who can save this nation at this time.
Donald Trump is one of the most repulsive human beings to ever live. It's so embarrassing. And I am not easily embarrassed.



Posted by PlaguedThey did, specifically the Executive branch, but because admitting that would put the lie to a certain poltical persuasion, no one talks about it.
The American Government created ISIS lol. People are so sheepy it's hilarious. Baaaaaaaah

Posted by LeDominoesAbsolutely! Couldn't agree more.
@aquarius09
The largest backers of ISIS is turkey and the sauds. If it wasn't for the Russians, ISIS would still be having free reign into Turkey for exports.

Posted by PlaguedI also forgot to mention that one of the potential presidential candidates happened to be Secretary of State during the emergence of ISIS. And said individual did nothing while 4 people died in what was most likely a gun running operation to the same elements that now constitute ISIS.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspAin't that the bread and butter another low go no show story that people simply dismiss.Posted by PlaguedThey did, specifically the Executive branch, but because admitting that would put the lie to a certain poltical persuasion, no one talks about it.
The American Government created ISIS lol. People are so sheepy it's hilarious. Baaaaaaaah
Reminds me of a picture I saw in reference to G.I. Joe and Cobra both created by Hasbro but they are "enemies"click to expand
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I am American and my stance in a nutshell is that first and foremost it is inhumane to completely refuse war refugees, especially when our country is bombing their homeland.
I don't believe their coming here would have the terrible impact some sensationalist political extremist are concerned about.
Logistically, I believe that suffering people are ISIS most valuable resource. Basic understanding of psychology, brainwashing, cults, and gangs = suffering humans are the most vulnerable = ideal recruits.
Based specifically on my last thought, I believe defeating the enemy could involve draining their most valuable resource, people. Welcoming refugees with open arms is in our best interests.