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That Venus in Scorpio is highly overrated. They are good for short term fun but they kill the relationship as soon as things start getting hot and heavy. Their own insecurities get the better of them. HELP! This guy is falling for me and I'm scared shitless! Fuck, I better back way the hell off and get my security blanket out and regroup. Oh WOW! How dare he want to break up with me because I need space now! I'll just win him back so I can dump his ass and then "ICE" his ass for eternity.

"Why can't I find a man that will stick around"? Questions she asks her friends 2x a year.
incompatible venuses would feel stifled and not happy.
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That Venus in Scorpio is highly overrated. They are good for short term fun but they kill the relationship as soon as things start getting hot and heavy. Their own insecurities get the better of them. HELP! This guy is falling for me and I'm scared shitless! Fuck, I better back way the hell off and get my security blanket out and regroup. Oh WOW! How dare he want to break up with me because I need space now! I'll just win him back so I can dump his ass and then "ICE" his ass for eternity.

"Why can't I find a man that will stick around"? Questions she asks her friends 2x a year.
incompatible venuses would feel stifled and not happy.
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Then which Venus is Compatible? This is what I have seen REPEATEDLY from women with Venus in Scorpio. Same outcome from each relationship they have been in. I know of 5 men with 2 different Venus in Scorpio women. Same deal. Men I am not sure of there venus.
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That Venus in Scorpio is highly overrated. They are good for short term fun but they kill the relationship as soon as things start getting hot and heavy. Their own insecurities get the better of them. HELP! This guy is falling for me and I'm scared shitless! Fuck, I better back way the hell off and get my security blanket out and regroup. Oh WOW! How dare he want to break up with me because I need space now! I'll just win him back so I can dump his ass and then "ICE" his ass for eternity.

"Why can't I find a man that will stick around"? Questions she asks her friends 2x a year.
incompatible venuses would feel stifled and not happy.
Then which Venus is Compatible? This is what I have seen REPEATEDLY from women with Venus in Scorpio. Same outcome from each relationship they have been in. I know of 5 men with 2 different Venus in Scorpio women. Same deal. Men I am not sure of there venus.
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well your description sounds like other placements are involved though. lol

what are their moons/suns and mars?

if a person is unsure, they probably feel deeply that the other person is NOT ready, and NOT the type to want to commit deeply. But the heart wants what the heart wants. A person can be super attracted to someone, and want them, but they know instintively that the other person is not into them the same way.
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That Venus in Scorpio is highly overrated. They are good for short term fun but they kill the relationship as soon as things start getting hot and heavy. Their own insecurities get the better of them. HELP! This guy is falling for me and I'm scared shitless! Fuck, I better back way the hell off and get my security blanket out and regroup. Oh WOW! How dare he want to break up with me because I need space now! I'll just win him back so I can dump his ass and then "ICE" his ass for eternity.

"Why can't I find a man that will stick around"? Questions she asks her friends 2x a year.
Just getting out of one.. Super super deceptive, possessive, manipulative, same cycle in relationships.. Couldn't communicate... Only violently. I will pass, they are intense but it's NOT peaceful in my eyes. They feel emotions mean you care, but from my experience they don't care if it's negative. But this person was a cancer moon sag sun and Scorpio Venus... She acted more like a Scorpio to me for some reason in the relationship. Or maybe we just couldn't get along because I was open and felt things truly different. So I guess different strokes for different folks. But I've yet to like anything Scorpio, I don't understand they're automatic suspicion of people... It's kinda lame to me. Just chill and go with the flow... Why always look at the negative ? I was Aquarius Venus btw, so you could imagine ...
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Posted by tiziani
"commit deeply" cliche is highly overrated imo

I've met enough light hearted Venus in Scorps
hm maybe because its the only placement in Scorpio? 😕


the ones i know personally commit deeply, but they have a stellium in Scorpio.

it takes extreme ABUSE to get them to get out of the relationship. (A good example is stellium Scorpio Lorenna Bobbitt, doulbe Scorpio with Scorpio venus, libra mars)
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"commit deeply" cliche is highly overrated imo

I've met enough light hearted Venus in Scorps
I used to be a "commit deeply" type but frustration from failed relationship sent my mars over the edge. I'm about as aloof/flakey in relationships as they come now.
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I can be a bit like that sometimes. It's not always intense. I think it takes a lot to become that intense or connected. Not everyone gets the 'special' treatment!!
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Yes my emotions overwhealm me n I can't speak n communicate at the time.
I would say that that's what happens to my scorpio boyfriend
I'm totally like this too.

It's like my brain works. I can think what I want to say and hear it in my head but the words just don't come out my mouth.

It's like there's a disconnect somewhere.

It's highly irritating.

It makes me feel like an emotional retard sometimes but I'm not, it's just how I am and it's nice to know others have this too!
Amen!
THIS.

Can't speak what I feel.

Regret what I say after bc it doesn't do any justice.

Better to keep silent and write it down. Used to get angry & write everything down and hand the note over silently.

That or walk off the emotion so logic has time to set in.
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I'm the same with the writing it down bit and also trying to cool off so you can view the situation more logically or certainly with less emotion. It's easy to react immediately to things because it's like a rush of emotion that erupts and it needs to go somewhere!
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There is a Cap sun, Scorpio Venus that just won't leave my life. lol It's been five years now and we've dated off and on, etc. He's cool people, but the problem is that whenever we take things to the romance department...IDK...it's weird, but the same stuff I say to him when we aren't sexual...I say those same things to him and he becomes petulant. I'm so sorry, but petulance in a man is a turn off to me.

When we're not sexual and just friends: Him, "Hey" Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "Sure! It would be good to hear your sweet voice soon"

When we're sexual: Him, "Hey", Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "It seems you never have time for me these days and you're short with me. No worries, I was just trying to say Hi."

The hell?!?!?!?! I just don't understand it.
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Yes my emotions overwhealm me n I can't speak n communicate at the time.
I would say that that's what happens to my scorpio boyfriend
I'm totally like this too.

It's like my brain works. I can think what I want to say and hear it in my head but the words just don't come out my mouth.

It's like there's a disconnect somewhere.

It's highly irritating.

It makes me feel like an emotional retard sometimes but I'm not, it's just how I am and it's nice to know others have this too!
Amen!
THIS.

Can't speak what I feel.

Regret what I say after bc it doesn't do any justice.

Better to keep silent and write it down. Used to get angry & write everything down and hand the note over silently.

That or walk off the emotion so logic has time to set in.
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I can relate to this.
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There is a Cap sun, Scorpio Venus that just won't leave my life. lol It's been five years now and we've dated off and on, etc. He's cool people, but the problem is that whenever we take things to the romance department...IDK...it's weird, but the same stuff I say to him when we aren't sexual...I say those same things to him and he becomes petulant. I'm so sorry, but petulance in a man is a turn off to me.

When we're not sexual and just friends: Him, "Hey" Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "Sure! It would be good to hear your sweet voice soon"

When we're sexual: Him, "Hey", Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "It seems you never have time for me these days and you're short with me. No worries, I was just trying to say Hi."

The hell?!?!?!?! I just don't understand it.
If this aint me smh.
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There is a Cap sun, Scorpio Venus that just won't leave my life. lol It's been five years now and we've dated off and on, etc. He's cool people, but the problem is that whenever we take things to the romance department...IDK...it's weird, but the same stuff I say to him when we aren't sexual...I say those same things to him and he becomes petulant. I'm so sorry, but petulance in a man is a turn off to me.

When we're not sexual and just friends: Him, "Hey" Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "Sure! It would be good to hear your sweet voice soon"

When we're sexual: Him, "Hey", Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "It seems you never have time for me these days and you're short with me. No worries, I was just trying to say Hi."

The hell?!?!?!?! I just don't understand it.
If this aint me smh.
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I think I can be like that. It's why FWB doesn't work as it's hard to separate emotions and keep perspective. Sounds like he requires a bit more from you but it can be hard to please a ViS. I think the best thing is to refrain from blurring the lines and keep away from taking to to romantic level if you're not all in.
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There is a Cap sun, Scorpio Venus that just won't leave my life. lol It's been five years now and we've dated off and on, etc. He's cool people, but the problem is that whenever we take things to the romance department...IDK...it's weird, but the same stuff I say to him when we aren't sexual...I say those same things to him and he becomes petulant. I'm so sorry, but petulance in a man is a turn off to me.

When we're not sexual and just friends: Him, "Hey" Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "Sure! It would be good to hear your sweet voice soon"

When we're sexual: Him, "Hey", Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "It seems you never have time for me these days and you're short with me. No worries, I was just trying to say Hi."

The hell?!?!?!?! I just don't understand it.
If this aint me smh.
I think I can be like that. It's why FWB doesn't work as it's hard to separate emotions and keep perspective. Sounds like he requires a bit more from you but it can be hard to please a ViS. I think the best thing is to refrain from blurring the lines and keep away from taking to to romantic level if you're not all in.
Why are VIS like this?

I read an article that said because Scorpio is in detriment, it doesn't relate to the material aspects of love. It's about rebirth and death. Soul merging. (Where as Taurus in Venus is more materialistic)

VIS can hold out on sex for ever. It is more physical unless emotions are involved and that's where you get the blurred lines between emotion and logic.

If we want to have sex with you, we need reassurance constantly or we freak out internally.
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it depends. It sounds right that ViS as it wants a deeper love, commitment, and not all about materialism like their opposite Taurus in Venus, but what if the person in question has a Taurus moon or Taurus mars? They'll want to pursue that materialism anyway, it's part of the DNA.
If the individual is fire dominant, they are probably super sexual especially if their mars is in the 5th (as quite a handful of porn stars have mars in 5th)

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Sounds like you all may be over complicating it. Scorpio is the simplest sign to me.


Taurus = more is always a good thing.

Scorpio = less is more.

They're both predicated on self-worth and security. Taurus believes self-worth is in finding form, and Scorpio believes it's in losing it.

Venus is obviously not an ideal planet to have in Scorpio as there's the question of... how can you desire things if you only measure them by your ability to give them up?

But there's no real contradiction there as you move through the years. We all realise we can only really acquire depth of character by - at some points in our journey - appreciating practical, material value in life because those are the realistic things we need to link body and soul together. If you're weak at materialism then you will always be dependent on others to nurish your spiritual side - which is obviously not a position anyone wants to be in.

Someone I knew once said they knew they wanted to be a hippie. They said it definitely - like it a life's calling to them. But they also knew they first had to challenge themselves and make a career, before they gave it up for the hippie swag. Because without that earning the right to give something up, they wouldn't really know what their eventual life as a hippie was worth. It would always be valued through the eyes of others, and not something they got to enjoy for themselves. It wouldn't mean as much to them.

Venus is also not just about relationships but any long-term commitments. The Venus in Scorpio people I know are well adjusted people, no major problems in being reliable. Sure sometimes they did make it look like Venus in Nutcase but everyone's entitled to those moments. Don't get distracted by the idea that materials is diametrically opposed to emotional or spiritual connections because that is one of the most superficial poverty traps promoted by modern media.
Ooooh good post Tiz... Ž
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There is a Cap sun, Scorpio Venus that just won't leave my life. lol It's been five years now and we've dated off and on, etc. He's cool people, but the problem is that whenever we take things to the romance department...IDK...it's weird, but the same stuff I say to him when we aren't sexual...I say those same things to him and he becomes petulant. I'm so sorry, but petulance in a man is a turn off to me.

When we're not sexual and just friends: Him, "Hey" Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "Sure! It would be good to hear your sweet voice soon"

When we're sexual: Him, "Hey", Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "It seems you never have time for me these days and you're short with me. No worries, I was just trying to say Hi."

The hell?!?!?!?! I just don't understand it.
If this aint me smh.
I think I can be like that. It's why FWB doesn't work as it's hard to separate emotions and keep perspective. Sounds like he requires a bit more from you but it can be hard to please a ViS. I think the best thing is to refrain from blurring the lines and keep away from taking to to romantic level if you're not all in.
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But that's just the thing. He's the one who's never been ready for a relationship. He's an engineer, now designing airplanes and working towards his Masters. After that, he's sure to get a PhD. I know it. He's been a full time employee in management and going to school at night/on weekends since I met him. He finally had a child with someone and while he highly respects her, he doesn't want to be in a relationship with her. He says that out of all of the women he knows, I'm the one he's likely to marry when all is said and done. He just bought a house and installed a floor to ceiling shower stall with me being in it in mind. I was like...uhhh....ok. I've known that he sees me as the woman he can marry, but I finally completely let go of that idea a little over a year ago when he straight up told me that he didn't understand why I couldn't just wait for him to be ready. Whaaaaaaaaaaaatttt?!?!?!? I was like, "This dude is nuts." We've had sex one time since then...this past spring after I broke up with that cray cray Aries. The Cap VIS was so disappointed, but at the same time relieved. He tells me that I need to get with someone and STAY with them. He actually would prefer for me not to be single if I'm not going to wait for him.
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Posted by tiziani
Sounds like you all may be over complicating it. Scorpio is the simplest sign to me.


Taurus = more is always a good thing.

Scorpio = less is more.

They're both predicated on self-worth and security. Taurus believes self-worth is in finding form, and Scorpio believes it's in losing it.

Venus is obviously not an ideal planet to have in Scorpio as there's the question of... how can you desire things if you only measure them by your ability to give them up?

But there's no real contradiction there as you move through the years. We all realise we can only really acquire depth of character by - at some points in our journey - appreciating practical, material value in life because those are the realistic things we need to link body and soul together. If you're weak at materialism then you will always be dependent on others to nurish your spiritual side - which is obviously not a position anyone wants to be in.

Someone I knew once said they knew they wanted to be a hippie. They said it definitely - like it a life's calling to them. But they also knew they first had to challenge themselves and make a career, before they gave it up for the hippie swag. Because without that earning the right to give something up, they wouldn't really know what their eventual life as a hippie was worth. It would always be valued through the eyes of others, and not something they got to enjoy for themselves. It wouldn't mean as much to them.

Venus is also not just about relationships but any long-term commitments. The Venus in Scorpio people I know are well adjusted people, no major problems in being reliable. Sure sometimes they did make it look like Venus in Nutcase but everyone's entitled to those moments. Don't get distracted by the idea that materials is diametrically opposed to emotional or spiritual connections because that is one of the most superficial poverty traps promoted by modern media.
Completely agree Tiz. Good stuff. So when is your book coming out? lol
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@Tiziani, but if Scorp measures value by what can be given up, my thought is that the fallacy in that is everything either can or has to be given up at some point. No? Whereas Venus in Taurus would then (according to your awesome description above) do what's necessary not to lose in relationships and commitments so that the value remains high, seems that VIS would constantly strip away to see what value is left.

Very rare a thing or person can be reduced or unraveled and retain it's value. Wouldn't VIS do better being coached on how to leave people in their natural or innate form and see what they take off or put on over time? I say this, because so much emphasis is placed on respecting how Scorp energy does things when I think more emphasis in astrology should be placed in directing Scorp energy people on how to gain a healthy respect for what is already established.

Couldn't you just imagine the increased power/attractiveness of a VIS who was able to resist the impulse to tear down/away at their partner? Yowza!!
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am i the only venus in scorpio who doesn't want to responsibility to change someone? if someone can't get their own life straight how can i do it for them idk. lol. i like the venus in nutcase ideal. i wanna be a nutcase alone. 😄

maybe my sag mars helps me out. idk. i don't see myself as being half the things VIS is described as. not even close for some descriptions. they make us sound like a tyrant trying to gain full control. who wants to date a robot, ew. not me. if all you do is listen to my command i'll be a little annoyed and probably want to dump you anyways. thats boring.
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maybe its because I was in a controlling relationship where I was put in a little box and expected to stay there. the tyrant was the Venus in Cancer. certainly not me. Maybe I've learned from that experience, but I evade anyone who comes on too strong, anyone who resembles anything close to that Venus in Cancer I dated. And I never impose on others the way he imposed on me.

"what are you doing"
"why are you with your friends - why didn't you invite me - are you cheating on me - screw you I know you are - why are you ignoring me" whine whine whine whine. omg. NEVER AGAIN.
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There is a Cap sun, Scorpio Venus that just won't leave my life. lol It's been five years now and we've dated off and on, etc. He's cool people, but the problem is that whenever we take things to the romance department...IDK...it's weird, but the same stuff I say to him when we aren't sexual...I say those same things to him and he becomes petulant. I'm so sorry, but petulance in a man is a turn off to me.

When we're not sexual and just friends: Him, "Hey" Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "Sure! It would be good to hear your sweet voice soon"

When we're sexual: Him, "Hey", Me, "Hey...can I get back to you?" Him, "It seems you never have time for me these days and you're short with me. No worries, I was just trying to say Hi."

The hell?!?!?!?! I just don't understand it.
If this aint me smh.
I think I can be like that. It's why FWB doesn't work as it's hard to separate emotions and keep perspective. Sounds like he requires a bit more from you but it can be hard to please a ViS. I think the best thing is to refrain from blurring the lines and keep away from taking to to romantic level if you're not all in.
But that's just the thing. He's the one who's never been ready for a relationship. He's an engineer, now designing airplanes and working towards his Masters. After that, he's sure to get a PhD. I know it. He's been a full time employee in management and going to school at night/on weekends since I met him. He finally had a child with someone and while he highly respects her, he doesn't want to be in a relationship with her. He says that out of all of the women he knows, I'm the one he's likely to marry when all is said and done. He just bought a house and installed a floor to ceiling shower stall with me being in it in mind. I was like...uhhh....ok. I've known that he sees me as the woman he can marry, but I finally completely let go of that idea a little over a year ago when he straight up told me that he didn't understand why I couldn't just wait for him to be ready. Whaaaaaaaaaaaatttt?!?!?!? I was like, "This dude is nuts." We've had sex one time since then...this past spring after I broke up with that cray cray Aries. The Cap VIS was so disappointed, but at the same time relieved. He tells me that I need to get with someone and STAY with them. He actually would prefer for me not to be single if I'm not going to wait for him.
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wow, MsTeeq, he sounds wishy washy. O_O
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Posted by tiziani
Sounds like you all may be over complicating it. Scorpio is the simplest sign to me.


Taurus = more is always a good thing.

Scorpio = less is more.

They're both predicated on self-worth and security. Taurus believes self-worth is in finding form, and Scorpio believes it's in losing it.

Venus is obviously not an ideal planet to have in Scorpio as there's the question of... how can you desire things if you only measure them by your ability to give them up?

But there's no real contradiction there as you move through the years. We all realise we can only really acquire depth of character by - at some points in our journey - appreciating practical, material value in life because those are the realistic things we need to link body and soul together. If you're weak at materialism then you will always be dependent on others to nurish your spiritual side - which is obviously not a position anyone wants to be in.

Someone I knew once said they knew they wanted to be a hippie. They said it definitely - like it a life's calling to them. But they also knew they first had to challenge themselves and make a career, before they gave it up for the hippie swag. Because without that earning the right to give something up, they wouldn't really know what their eventual life as a hippie was worth. It would always be valued through the eyes of others, and not something they got to enjoy for themselves. It wouldn't mean as much to them.

Venus is also not just about relationships but any long-term commitments. The Venus in Scorpio people I know are well adjusted people, no major problems in being reliable. Sure sometimes they did make it look like Venus in Nutcase but everyone's entitled to those moments. Don't get distracted by the idea that materials is diametrically opposed to emotional or spiritual connections because that is one of the most superficial poverty traps promoted by modern media.

have you EVER been in a very personal relationship with a venus in Scorpio female? doesn't matter the sun, but the ViS in specific.
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maybe its because I was in a controlling relationship where I was put in a little box and expected to stay there. the tyrant was the Venus in Cancer. certainly not me. Maybe I've learned from that experience, but I evade anyone who comes on too strong, anyone who resembles anything close to that Venus in Cancer I dated. And I never impose on others the way he imposed on me.

"what are you doing"
"why are you with your friends - why didn't you invite me - are you cheating on me - screw you I know you are - why are you ignoring me" whine whine whine whine. omg. NEVER AGAIN.
😱

I cringe!
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LOL! Me too 😱
terrible. I mean I was pretty crazy to stick with him for as long as I did, but I guess you live and learn. Maybe it was meant to happen that way so I didn't become the so-called "VIS tyrant" - MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY BABY. Lol. No.

I'm sure you can relate. You have a fire Mars too right? Maybe we are just different. I even have a Scorp sun and don't act like a neurotic psychopath when I'm with a guy. Sure I like attention but I'm not gonna be like "OH YOURE WITH JENNY? FINE YOU CAN JUST BANG JENNY THEN. SCREW YOU. ILL NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN" and Jenny is just their friend. Like no. I know how it is being on the receiving end of that, and I would never be that way. If they do cheat on me then adios. Simple as that. You can't make someone's decision for them. If they're gonna cheat, they're gonna do it anyways. If they're not, they're not. Not that hard of a concept to understand for me. Sure I get a little jealous, but Im not gonna go psycho. to me thats so immature. The only way I'm going to be mad is if they specifically say something that is totally out of line, and even then I normally show anger silently. I'm the girl who says nothing's wrong at first but then rambles about what they did and how it affected me. Normally if I even feel jealous I keep it to myself, because I know I'm acting irrational. If that makes sense. Idk there are fine lines. I get jealous if a girl is acting like they want my man for example, but I know thats an irrational thought, because he could just be being friendly and just because some chick is crossing the boundaries doesn't mean he's going to, and I shouldn't take it out on him for no reason. I guess I learned a lot about rationality from that toxic relationship. I was accused of "cheating on him with my friends". I'm like "dude are you that dumb. I've been friends with them for years. We went to Dunkin Donuts and played video games. It's not that serious."
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Posted by degenerate_ingenue
am i the only venus in scorpio who doesn't want to responsibility to change someone? if someone can't get their own life straight how can i do it for them idk. lol. i like the venus in nutcase ideal. i wanna be a nutcase alone. 😄

maybe my sag mars helps me out. idk. i don't see myself as being half the things VIS is described as. not even close for some descriptions. they make us sound like a tyrant trying to gain full control. who wants to date a robot, ew. not me. if all you do is listen to my command i'll be a little annoyed and probably want to dump you anyways. thats boring.
Yeah it was Elle that set me straight on this a while back, but i realised Scorp placements really aren't that possessive at all ultimately. Taurus if the far more possessive of the two.

Scorpio is far simpler than what astro makes it out to be.
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I don't feel possessive anyways 😭

I like to feel important. But even little things make me feel important. One time this guy bought me tacos as a surprise because I mentioned being hungry. OKKK. that earned him some points in my book. Tacos are nice. Food is nice. He was nice. I'll remember that taco gesture. I do food surprises too so I felt like we were on the same wavelength. You buy me tacos, I buy you tacos. That's love.
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Posted by lnana04
Im not really ready for a relationship either and I do the same thing MsTeeq guy does.

He wants you to be with someone else so he can stop having hope of the two of you being together. He doesnt want to be the way he is, and the only way he can move on is if he knows for sure that you have. Just my opinion anyway.

I do all that crazy wishy washy mixed signal mess.
aww. I think personally it's other planets. capricorn in general is not very secured unless they know for sure they get love and secuity back. It's very much the cancer/cap axis.

They need weirdly also the emotional support to feel strong, and to feel good about the relationship. It's kind of like, all in or all out.

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@Tiziani, but if Scorp measures value by what can be given up, my thought is that the fallacy in that is everything either can or has to be given up at some point. No? Whereas Venus in Taurus would then (according to your awesome description above) do what's necessary not to lose in relationships and commitments so that the value remains high, seems that VIS would constantly strip away to see what value is left.

Very rare a thing or person can be reduced or unraveled and retain it's value. Wouldn't VIS do better being coached on how to leave people in their natural or innate form and see what they take off or put on over time? I say this, because so much emphasis is placed on respecting how Scorp energy does things when I think more emphasis in astrology should be placed in directing Scorp energy people on how to gain a healthy respect for what is already established.



Couldn't you just imagine the increased power/attractiveness of a VIS who was able to resist the impulse to tear down/away at their partner? Yowza!!
Do you think it's tearing someone down? Could it be that we simply show a more pure point of view?

And if you "resist the urge" does it not bottle up and fester?
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That's just it Dear...from the other person's POV, it is tearing down, although I do agree that it's getting to a more pure point of view. However, purification of all sort takes time and has to be done according to the natural evolution pattern/of cycle of whoever it is that is being "purified". Resisting doesn't have to mean that you bottle things up and let them fester. It can mean that you concede to something greater than yourself. So, maybe resist is not the right word, but doing the work to go against your own natural proclivity rather than causing pressure through your personality for the OTHER to go against their natural proclivity all of the time. This is what Scorp energy demands, which is what makes it so hard on the other/partner.
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Posted by degenerate_ingenue
maybe its because I was in a controlling relationship where I was put in a little box and expected to stay there. the tyrant was the Venus in Cancer. certainly not me. Maybe I've learned from that experience, but I evade anyone who comes on too strong, anyone who resembles anything close to that Venus in Cancer I dated. And I never impose on others the way he imposed on me.

"what are you doing"
"why are you with your friends - why didn't you invite me - are you cheating on me - screw you I know you are - why are you ignoring me" whine whine whine whine. omg. NEVER AGAIN.
😱

I cringe!
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I cringed too degenerate. The ex Aries sun, Gem moon, Venus in Taurus did this to me all of the time. Except I never felt bad for going out with my friends. I expected him to get over it and in due time, he actually did. That ended up being the least of our relationship problems, when I thought that was the worst. Oh boy...was I wrong. smh
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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by lnana04
Im not really ready for a relationship either and I do the same thing MsTeeq guy does.

He wants you to be with someone else so he can stop having hope of the two of you being together. He doesnt want to be the way he is, and the only way he can move on is if he knows for sure that you have. Just my opinion anyway.

I do all that crazy wishy washy mixed signal mess.
aww. I think personally it's other planets. capricorn in general is not very secured unless they know for sure they get love and secuity back. It's very much the cancer/cap axis.

They need weirdly also the emotional support to feel strong, and to feel good about the relationship. It's kind of like, all in or all out.

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I understand what you're both saying, but I'm not the damsel waiting in the ivory tower type of woman. I'm more of the strong warrior who is part of the hunting clan type of woman. I definitely need a man who sees me as a sub-equal. I don't want him to treat me as one of the guys, but just respect that in other ways, I'm just as capable and have individual likes, dislikes, and needs. He doesn't necessarily have to agree with me...just respect me and who I am, what I bring to the relationship table. The Cap sun/VIS doesn't do that. He's only looking at how my personality and lifestyle complements or fits with his own in comparison to other women. He actually told me that the primary reason why he sees marrying me as the number one option is because he can work with me and calm me down...in other words, he sees me as more controllable than other women with the same level of intellect and resources. I probably am, but I won't get into a relationship, especially a marriage with someone who sees that as my number one asset/usefulness.
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Posted by tiziani
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@Tiziani, but if Scorp measures value by what can be given up, my thought is that the fallacy in that is everything either can or has to be given up at some point. No?...Yowza!!
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Oh believe me, I personally think a lot of astrology built around Scorpio placements is horsecrap. ...Scorpio's maturation begins in early life as very often feeling like they are the extension of someone else's affairs. Then through solid commitments, they find the "me" part, the constant part of themselves that has built those bonds and is free to walk away from them at any time. "I've built this with someone but I realise now it doesn't own me anymore. Me is a part of it and I can remove myself from it at any time."

As long as someone respects the truth that they choose to stay I can't imagine it being a problem

I agree with this. Let's say that mature VIS finally owns/recognizes/loves that part of themselves that made the decisions in previous relationships and sees where they were directly responsible for the dynamics that either shouldn't have existed or finally eroded the relationship away...then what are they looking to remove themselves from? I'm asking, if the unhealthy dynamics and conditions that existed in previous relationships doesn't exist in the more evolved/mature relationship, then what does the VIS have left to remove oneself from? I hope I'm phrasing this correctly. lol Does the VIS constantly stand at the door waiting for a new relationship storm of sorts to walk away from? If so, that's not healthy either. I'm just asking, because I want to understand this energy/personality. The huge relationship aspect that I think Scorps struggle with is interdependence, which ultimately calls for a sharing of power. It's both acknowledging that the other has a share of power of you as well as you having power over yourself and vice versa. It's that relationship key that says, I would leave for ME, but instead, I'm staying for you. The thing is, this exchange and sharing of power has an ebb and flow. It doesn't remain the same. Like, one day, I might stay in my relationship for me, but another day, I'll stay in my relationship for him and some days I stay involved for both of our sake. You know? You VIS...how do you feel about that type of energy exchange? Why would or wouldn't it work for you?
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Posted by truecap
Curious to how many have dated a scorpio venus and what their thoughts are on them after the relationship is over. Do you still think about them years later?

I've had past boyfriends tell me they remember me fondly and admit they never forgot me. Even 20-30 years later, I have been told they felt they made mistakes letting me go........

Very curious if my theory is correct or if I'm living in fantasy land. 🙂
I have a Leo venus and the same was told to me.