
VirgoM20
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Posted by VirgoM20
She expects me to take the lead in the bedroom whereas my shyness and Virgo inclination toward service to others means I'm more comfortable with a woman taking the lead, so I feel that I'm giving her what she wants, not using her to get what I want. Over the years the media, etc. have lead me to believe that women think that sex is a chore, so as a result I need 'permission' from a woman to engage in sex before I can enjoy it without feeling guilty that I am 'taking' from her. My GF, on the other hand, is a traditional woman who wants a man to take the lead so she can enjoy sex without feeling that she is 'dirty' as she might if she had to initiate it. She wants to indulge in sexual pleasure, but to do so at my mercy so she isn't 'responsible' for her actions, if that makes any sense? So, we're at stalemate — I want her to initiate so I can feel that I'm 'giving' to her, but she wants me to initiate so she can enjoy sex without feeling that she's less of a 'lady' for doing so.


Posted by P-Angel
If you would consider it, rather than shrug it off ... the fact that to initate love with your woman isn't sex, it's being intimately romantic with her, in which turns her on to the point of her wanting to rip your clothes off.
oh, no .. be Virgo and not have any awareness of that and only view sex as service oriented.
You really piss me off when you Virgos say things like this ... because I know full well you actually believe it so it's not like you're just fucking around to get a rise.
To iniate with a woman only takes you to be affectionate with her .. if she's complaining that you aren't leading .. then it means you aren't fucking touching her, or caring for her intimately. I'm not talking about fucking groping her or telling her you want to fuck.


Posted by VirgoM20
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What can I do to condition my mind to simply not care and let my mouth and my body go to the same kinky places that my filthy mind is already at? Alcohol would help me but she doesn't drink and doesn't much care for the smell of drink on me — is there something else that wouldn't be evident to her which I can use to take away my inhibitions, or some kind of mental conditioning which I can use to stop myself worrying?


Posted by VirgoM20
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is there something else that wouldn't be evident to her which I can use to take away my inhibitions, or some kind of mental conditioning which I can use to stop myself worrying?"
MDMA
Lolz
Jk but hey, if there's already a bit of an issue what do you have to lose by letting the beast out the cage?? Esp since she says you should!!

Posted by VirgoM20
When I'm on my own having fantasies about her I imagine myself saying the filthiest things imaginable
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Posted by VirgoM20Posted by P-Angel
If you would consider it, rather than shrug it off ... the fact that to initate love with your woman isn't sex, it's being intimately romantic with her, in which turns her on to the point of her wanting to rip your clothes off.
oh, no .. be Virgo and not have any awareness of that and only view sex as service oriented.
You really piss me off when you Virgos say things like this ... because I know full well you actually believe it so it's not like you're just fucking around to get a rise.
To iniate with a woman only takes you to be affectionate with her .. if she's complaining that you aren't leading .. then it means you aren't fucking touching her, or caring for her intimately. I'm not talking about fucking groping her or telling her you want to fuck.
Thanks for your comments P-Angel, but you??re kinda missing the point. I don't have any problem with the kind of affectionate, non-sexual, romantic intimacy which often ends up leading to the bedroom. We enjoy plenty of loving contact in our relationship and end up between the sheets plenty often enough. What my GF wants, and what I want too, is for me to be more bold and assertive after we've actually got into the bedroom. I need to find a way of just taking control, hustling her, roughing her up a bit, being more vocal about my filthiest fantasies — she wants me to do this and I want to find the confidence to do this — that's what I'm getting at.click to expand



Posted by VirgoM20
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What can I do to condition my mind to simply not care and let my mouth and my body go to the same kinky places that my filthy mind is already at?



Posted by westside
OP made my dick hard

Posted by everevolvingepithet
You don't need bondage gear, the tie from a bathrobe would just as well do the trick.

Posted by aPiscesPrincess
lol! Well if a guy was being overly aggressive and I tell him 'No. Stop talking that way.'.. I mean exactly that- 'No. Stop talking that way.' It's no hidden code lol. Then if he proceeds he will have a hell of a fight on his hands.

Posted by VirgoM20
.... without feeling guilty that I am 'taking' from her.
.... I want her to .... so I can feel ...


Posted by justSophs
Stop talking about it and be about it.
You got the girl already, she told you wanted, now just man up and do it!
If you wont dont do it, she will find someone that does. Just grab her and fuck her, stop being so wimpy. JUST DO THE DAMM THING! YEAH!

Posted by dofacc
Practice, practice, practice......


Posted by P-AngelPosted by VirgoM20
.... without feeling guilty that I am 'taking' from her.
.... I want her to .... so I can feel ...
You're not lacking confidence, you're lacking balls.
Get the fuck over yourself .. and quite acting like a fairy "with issues"
do you cry too?
stomp your feet .. do you go ask mummy for her tit?
You feel this, you feel that ..... what are you? A little girl?click to expand


Posted by ilybPosted by LoboPosted by dofacc
Practice, practice, practice......
Ha, Dominate her man.....
that is if you canclick to expand

Posted by exoskeleton
"a shy virgo in bed"
kinda redundant, eh? scorp moon must help a lot. 😛
Posted by exoskeleton
lol, i could see it now...
me: "bite my (neck/nipples/clit)!"
virgo: "errmmmmm..." *panic*
me: "do it!"
virgo: "but...i don't wanna hurt you. i love you."
-_-
me: "spank me!"
virgo: *laughs nervously and taps me lightly*
-_-
virgo: "OMG, don't kiss me with cum in your mout!"
-___________-click to expand







Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by Lobo
snowballing ...... yay or nah—??
Is that the same as snowflaking?click to expand


Posted by ianthepisces
jesus christ man...
just slap the bitch across the face, throw her on the bed, choke her till she passes out...
then you wont have to worry about taking the lead, you can let her do all the work from there out..




Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by tbirdPosted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by Lobo
snowballing ...... yay or nah—??
Is that the same as snowflaking?
Snowflaking is primarily used when a person of a black descent dates another partner that is of a white descent.
Snowballing is after a man ejaculates in a partner's mouth and the partner and man kiss each other while the sperm is still in the mouth. Swapping it back and forth in each other's mouths.
lol I knew it probably wasn't the same as 'snowflaking'.. I was just using that term since 69 brought it up in his thread 😛
I didn't know what snowballing meant though, thanks for clarifying it 😄click to expand
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How, then, do I become a forceful leader in the bedroom and lose the inhibitions that are stopping me from simply taking what I want? We're both dissatisfied with our sex life, but it's not because we can't have what we want, it's because she wants me to take the lead, but I don't have the confidence to do so. One of my fantasies involves me tying her up, so I told her I'd had a dream about it (by saying that I'd dreamed it I wasn't responsible for it and could gauge her reaction). Her eyes lit up when I told her and she suggested that we try it and has left me to make the necessary arrangements, i.e., acquire some bondage gear and 'set the scene', but I'm not sure I'd have the confidence to actually do it or even know what to do with her if I did have her tied up, even though my dirty mind is full of ideas when I fantasize about it. She has also said that she'd like me to talk dirty to her. When I'm on my own having fantasies about her I imagine myself saying the filthiest things imaginable, but when we're actually together I find myself tongue-tied for fear of saying something which she might find disgusting, even though she has already given me the 'green light' to say what I want.
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