krysrenee7
@krysrenee7
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Is he GAY or...
He's still straight. Its just that apparently, large muscles on women turn him on.
Its the same as girls who like androgynous men.
Its the same as girls who like androgynous men.
Sounds like you are obsessed with him.
I think he wants to be dominated or something...like hes just waiting for his girlfriend to physically pick him up, throw him on the bed and rape him....
otherwise he just admires them.....there is nothing wrong with that. If he was gay wouldnt he look at male body builders?
otherwise he just admires them.....there is nothing wrong with that. If he was gay wouldnt he look at male body builders?
Posted by amethyst2002
The only part that screams gay is the part where the girlfriend threw herself at him and he wouldn't do her. Maybe he's gay and doesn't know it yet or ready to admit it yet...?
The rest is just his weird kink.
I thought you were going to say, when the girlfriend threw him over her shoulder and he squeals like a bitch.
i don't think it makes him gay. to me it's like women who love feminine looking men, ie prince, and many other male rockstars doesn't mean they're gay... hell i have a male friend who dresses in drag a lot (he himself is bi) and women flock to him! those women are still women and still consider themselves to be women. one quote i remember from one was that it was incredibly feminine and that "my body wouldnt do this if it weren't meant to."
His obsession with female body builders ON TOP of 10 other things is the reason we all figured he was gay. Had it just been his attraction to body builders, that would be a different story, BUT b/c there are other tell-tale signs that he's possibly on the downlow, we figured that him just coincidentally being attracted to masculinity was the icing on the cake & what drove us to finally let it out & say, "Yep he's probably gay."
I mean there are 1 million other "suspicious" things that he does that makes us all believe that he's on the downlow. And honestly, I don't feel bad for noticing the "signs" b/c hey, most men on the downlow eventually give themselves away at some point in time. We figured that he's not attracted to men body builders b/c him being so public about something like that would be clearly OBVIOUS. We figure that he's using the fact that these are actually WOMEN to cover up for what he's REALLY attracted to.
Hell it's no different than men hanging with all women being another tell-tale sign that a man might be gay. It's not to say that men can't have geniuine & non-sexual relations with women, BUT there's a REASON men who surround themselves with nothing but women are usually considered gay; hell even gay men will tell you this. If anything, alot of GAY or BIsexual men have already used their "gaydar" & suspected that he was gay so it's not like straight people are the only one's giving him a hard time here.
I mean there are 1 million other "suspicious" things that he does that makes us all believe that he's on the downlow. And honestly, I don't feel bad for noticing the "signs" b/c hey, most men on the downlow eventually give themselves away at some point in time. We figured that he's not attracted to men body builders b/c him being so public about something like that would be clearly OBVIOUS. We figure that he's using the fact that these are actually WOMEN to cover up for what he's REALLY attracted to.
Hell it's no different than men hanging with all women being another tell-tale sign that a man might be gay. It's not to say that men can't have geniuine & non-sexual relations with women, BUT there's a REASON men who surround themselves with nothing but women are usually considered gay; hell even gay men will tell you this. If anything, alot of GAY or BIsexual men have already used their "gaydar" & suspected that he was gay so it's not like straight people are the only one's giving him a hard time here.
This guy was caught (by his girlfriend) jacking off to muscular porn involving women AND he told all of us that he jacks off up to 4 times a day so it's clear that he has some kind of a sex drive. I'll put it like this: In the 4 years they've been semi-dating/been together, they've only had sex 12 times! It's not like this guy is incompetent or doesn't place a priority on sex.
It's also very strange that he avoids relationships with women altogether. It's not like he befriends a woman just to sleep with her. He's been known to BRAG about how much of a whore he is to his male friends, BUT when we all saw his updated book of sexual partners (and yes, he keeps count lol), it showed that he's only been sexually active with 5 women compared to the 50 he's bragged about. He might've been lying to all of us to make himself get more brownie points but I'm sure he wasn't lying to HIMSELF when in the confides of his OWN home writing out that list.
He's also very touchy feely but mainly only with men so much so that he's lost a few friends after they've accused him of being on the downlow. So as I've said before, it's not like him being attracted to women body builders is the ONLY reason we figured he was possibly gay. There are a million other things that just seem too fishy that we also took into account.
Don't get me wrong, if he's gay that won't change my friendship with him. He can be sexually attracted to whoever or whatever he wants. It's just the fact that if he really is gay, it's sad knowing that he goes to such great lengths to cover it up, as I can imagine it has to be emotionally draining for him to do so.
It's also very strange that he avoids relationships with women altogether. It's not like he befriends a woman just to sleep with her. He's been known to BRAG about how much of a whore he is to his male friends, BUT when we all saw his updated book of sexual partners (and yes, he keeps count lol), it showed that he's only been sexually active with 5 women compared to the 50 he's bragged about. He might've been lying to all of us to make himself get more brownie points but I'm sure he wasn't lying to HIMSELF when in the confides of his OWN home writing out that list.
He's also very touchy feely but mainly only with men so much so that he's lost a few friends after they've accused him of being on the downlow. So as I've said before, it's not like him being attracted to women body builders is the ONLY reason we figured he was possibly gay. There are a million other things that just seem too fishy that we also took into account.
Don't get me wrong, if he's gay that won't change my friendship with him. He can be sexually attracted to whoever or whatever he wants. It's just the fact that if he really is gay, it's sad knowing that he goes to such great lengths to cover it up, as I can imagine it has to be emotionally draining for him to do so.
ooooooh ok... yeah... i take back what i said.
"suspicious"
"giving him a hard time"
"fishy"
It sounds like you actually would have a hard time if he came out.
Did you ever think his ex is making anything up to get back at him?
"it's sad knowing that he goes to such great lengths to cover it up, as I can imagine it has to be emotionally draining for him to do so"
How nice of you to care so much about his emotional well being that you go through his private papers, discuss his sexuality, ad nauseam, with his other friends, you've gone through his phones pictures, you stalk his facebook account and sound like you won't quit until YOU "catch" him and YOU out him.
With how bitter you're coming off I would guess that you hit on him and he turned you down, flat. Doesn't sound Gay to me at all.
"giving him a hard time"
"fishy"
It sounds like you actually would have a hard time if he came out.
Did you ever think his ex is making anything up to get back at him?
"it's sad knowing that he goes to such great lengths to cover it up, as I can imagine it has to be emotionally draining for him to do so"
How nice of you to care so much about his emotional well being that you go through his private papers, discuss his sexuality, ad nauseam, with his other friends, you've gone through his phones pictures, you stalk his facebook account and sound like you won't quit until YOU "catch" him and YOU out him.
With how bitter you're coming off I would guess that you hit on him and he turned you down, flat. Doesn't sound Gay to me at all.
Can she get any more plastic surgery though? She keeps it up she's going to look like a flounder.
LMAO There's a GKiss ad up now. Oh WOW.
LOL!!! Ooooo shrunken head! *poking it with stick *
@Sam: lol. First of all, I've known this man all of my life. I NEVER said his girlfriend was the only one who knew about certain things, like the pics in his phone for example. You seem to be more of the idiot for putting words in my mouth. This guy has been very open with me & has told me all of those things too. He's just an open person in general & with his close-knit friends he does tend to tell us just as much as he's told his girlfriend.
I knew these things about him WAY before he started messing with his current sorta girlfriend. I've seen him do the same things & raise the suspicions in others when he was messing around with other girls too. Yes, some of the things he's shared with us are what I'd consider a little too personal (I didn't ask him how many times he jacked off a day--he told me willingly). Problem is, when he was sharing these things with me & others along the years, he saw these things as normal & typical masculine behaviors while others didn't really see it that way.
And I made it very CLEAR that I wouldn't judge him whether he came out of the closet or not. OTHER people have cut him loose b/c of their suspicions, NOT me. Clearly I am still friends with this guy so if I was going to judge him, I'd rather spare all of that & just drop someone as a friend. Men being on the DL do typically tend to go through alot of emotional rollercoasters; so me being "concerned" with his emotional state is just in me hoping that IF he's really bisexual or gay, that he's not experiencing some of the emotional letdowns (that come with hiding/covering up such a crucial piece of who ANYbody is) that others in the same boat have been through.
I knew these things about him WAY before he started messing with his current sorta girlfriend. I've seen him do the same things & raise the suspicions in others when he was messing around with other girls too. Yes, some of the things he's shared with us are what I'd consider a little too personal (I didn't ask him how many times he jacked off a day--he told me willingly). Problem is, when he was sharing these things with me & others along the years, he saw these things as normal & typical masculine behaviors while others didn't really see it that way.
And I made it very CLEAR that I wouldn't judge him whether he came out of the closet or not. OTHER people have cut him loose b/c of their suspicions, NOT me. Clearly I am still friends with this guy so if I was going to judge him, I'd rather spare all of that & just drop someone as a friend. Men being on the DL do typically tend to go through alot of emotional rollercoasters; so me being "concerned" with his emotional state is just in me hoping that IF he's really bisexual or gay, that he's not experiencing some of the emotional letdowns (that come with hiding/covering up such a crucial piece of who ANYbody is) that others in the same boat have been through.
Do I think his ex is making up things to get back at him?
lol well if she's lying about all of this then she must be a psychic b/c everything she's said, we ALL already knew smart ass! We've all kinda figured that he might be hiding his true sexuality but none of us ever pressed it b/c we figured he'd either come out eventually OR that as time passed, we'd all forget about it. SHE is the one who really took all of those "red flags" to heart, as would anyone whose invested in someone that they come to find out may just be using them as a means to cover up their sexuality. When she brought certain "suspicious signs" to our attention, she had no idea that we already knew all of those things b/c he had already told us over the years.
He's confided in me that several people have accused him of being gay & he came off as someone who didn't understand why people would take certain behaviors to mean certain things/possibilities. As I would listen to him, I would tell him why I could understand that some people were questioning his sexuality. He would never get upset that others were questioning him either; if anything, I felt a sense of relief from him that atleast some people knew his possible secret.
Since he's been with this girl he's exhibited MORE behaviors. As he's getting older & more out there socially, things are starting to become more obvious. There's no such thing as stalking or betraying the privacy of someone who THEMSELVES airs all of their behaviors to others. He showed me his book of "Sexual partners"..I didn't have to snoop wtf. It shows up to all of his facebook friends exactly WHO he is seeking & befriending; it literally shows right up on someone's fb mini feed. It's kind of hard to "snoop" or "stalk" anything that comes directly to you.
The point of this post was to put SOME (not all) of the behaviors we've noticed out there to see if others possibly had the same opinion we had. I'm not insinating that all feminine men are gay; I pointed out that him being very feminine accompanied by LOTS of other factors played into why we came to the conclusion that he was possibly gay
lol well if she's lying about all of this then she must be a psychic b/c everything she's said, we ALL already knew smart ass! We've all kinda figured that he might be hiding his true sexuality but none of us ever pressed it b/c we figured he'd either come out eventually OR that as time passed, we'd all forget about it. SHE is the one who really took all of those "red flags" to heart, as would anyone whose invested in someone that they come to find out may just be using them as a means to cover up their sexuality. When she brought certain "suspicious signs" to our attention, she had no idea that we already knew all of those things b/c he had already told us over the years.
He's confided in me that several people have accused him of being gay & he came off as someone who didn't understand why people would take certain behaviors to mean certain things/possibilities. As I would listen to him, I would tell him why I could understand that some people were questioning his sexuality. He would never get upset that others were questioning him either; if anything, I felt a sense of relief from him that atleast some people knew his possible secret.
Since he's been with this girl he's exhibited MORE behaviors. As he's getting older & more out there socially, things are starting to become more obvious. There's no such thing as stalking or betraying the privacy of someone who THEMSELVES airs all of their behaviors to others. He showed me his book of "Sexual partners"..I didn't have to snoop wtf. It shows up to all of his facebook friends exactly WHO he is seeking & befriending; it literally shows right up on someone's fb mini feed. It's kind of hard to "snoop" or "stalk" anything that comes directly to you.
The point of this post was to put SOME (not all) of the behaviors we've noticed out there to see if others possibly had the same opinion we had. I'm not insinating that all feminine men are gay; I pointed out that him being very feminine accompanied by LOTS of other factors played into why we came to the conclusion that he was possibly gay
@Dy: Exactly. This man's mother is a preacher & his family is very religious. They make it VERY CLEAR that they frown upon homosexuality of any shape form or fashion. And this is just 1 of the many reasons we believe that even if he wanted to come out, he wouldn't.
He's also trying to get into the field of acting; a field where image is everything. To many people in society, it's not wise to start out in one's career openly admitting you're gay. And since my friend is one of those people who cares entirely TOO Much about other's opinions of him, we also figured this was another reason he'd never come out even if he was gay. Even though he dreams of becoming an actor, he can't handle rejection of any form. If someone even so much says they don't think he's cute or if someone says something negative about him, he throws a tantrum & LITERALLY can't handle it. Well he's almost 30 years old, so he's been made aware of how judgemental society can be sometimes towards gay people in general. Hell this factor alone is part in reason why so many people don't come out of the closet.
Point is, he's got so many odds stacked against him that if he were truly gay, it'd only make sense that he'd go to great lengths to hide his sexuality since afterall, he can't change who/what he's attracted to. And the body builders thing is 1 way we can see it being possible for him to cover up his secret. In his mind, yes the women look like men BUT b/c they are still technically women, it's possible that he can still fulfill his sexual attraction to masculinity w/o being called gay.
Alot of men on the DL (before coming out) tend to date alot & have many sexual experiences with women, BUT alot of times these encounters are with women they're not even really sexually attracted to. BUT, in THEIR minds, the fact that they are being sexual with actual women is something they figure others will overlook & possibly save them from others calling them/accusing them of being gay.
He's also trying to get into the field of acting; a field where image is everything. To many people in society, it's not wise to start out in one's career openly admitting you're gay. And since my friend is one of those people who cares entirely TOO Much about other's opinions of him, we also figured this was another reason he'd never come out even if he was gay. Even though he dreams of becoming an actor, he can't handle rejection of any form. If someone even so much says they don't think he's cute or if someone says something negative about him, he throws a tantrum & LITERALLY can't handle it. Well he's almost 30 years old, so he's been made aware of how judgemental society can be sometimes towards gay people in general. Hell this factor alone is part in reason why so many people don't come out of the closet.
Point is, he's got so many odds stacked against him that if he were truly gay, it'd only make sense that he'd go to great lengths to hide his sexuality since afterall, he can't change who/what he's attracted to. And the body builders thing is 1 way we can see it being possible for him to cover up his secret. In his mind, yes the women look like men BUT b/c they are still technically women, it's possible that he can still fulfill his sexual attraction to masculinity w/o being called gay.
Alot of men on the DL (before coming out) tend to date alot & have many sexual experiences with women, BUT alot of times these encounters are with women they're not even really sexually attracted to. BUT, in THEIR minds, the fact that they are being sexual with actual women is something they figure others will overlook & possibly save them from others calling them/accusing them of being gay.
"He's confided in me..."
The definition of Confided: To disclose private matters in confidence.
The definition of Confidence: A feeling of assurance that a confidant will keep a secret.
LOL and then you would go discuss all your "findings" and "suspicions" with his/yours friends.
What the Fuck ever. I'd be more concerned for YOUR emotional well being then his.
Take care, sweetie.
The definition of Confided: To disclose private matters in confidence.
The definition of Confidence: A feeling of assurance that a confidant will keep a secret.
LOL and then you would go discuss all your "findings" and "suspicions" with his/yours friends.
What the Fuck ever. I'd be more concerned for YOUR emotional well being then his.
Take care, sweetie.
@Sam: You are making assumptions & putting words in my mouth. Quote me when I supposedly said that I discuss all of my "findings" or "suspicions" with my friends. I'M WAITING.
We've all had conversations about this but guess what, had you just ASKED instead of assuming you'd know that he was present during most of those conversations. There is nothing I have said on this site and/or too any of my other friends that I already haven't discussed with him personally. He is very much aware of my opinion on his sexuality. HE is the one who is comfortable discussing this with us, b/c as I assume any man would want to be made aware of anything he could possibly be doing/saying in good conscious that is transferring to something different in someone else's mind.
He's curious to know what he's doing/saying that's causing people to suspect he's gay & we all told him. Of course we could all be wrong, BUT my point in posting this thread was to get diff. points of view on this so that I could further make him understand why others are suspecting him to be gay. HE is the one wanting to know why but in his eyes, he can't make the connection. He is genuienly curious about this just as much as we all are.
Sam stop changing the subject & quoting me on things I NEVER said. If you want to know something, just ask. I've spent too much time explaining to you things that had you just asked, you would've known instead of automatically assuming. There are many different missing puzzle pieces but my point was to just give you guys a general summary of what's going on. I'd have to write a whole book to thoroughly explain everything & I don't think any of you would like that very much. I gave you a topic, hit on some points & asked people what they thought just based on what I was WILLING to share..if you want more details to help you form your opinion, just ask but don't go accusing me of stuff & putting words in my mouth.
We've all had conversations about this but guess what, had you just ASKED instead of assuming you'd know that he was present during most of those conversations. There is nothing I have said on this site and/or too any of my other friends that I already haven't discussed with him personally. He is very much aware of my opinion on his sexuality. HE is the one who is comfortable discussing this with us, b/c as I assume any man would want to be made aware of anything he could possibly be doing/saying in good conscious that is transferring to something different in someone else's mind.
He's curious to know what he's doing/saying that's causing people to suspect he's gay & we all told him. Of course we could all be wrong, BUT my point in posting this thread was to get diff. points of view on this so that I could further make him understand why others are suspecting him to be gay. HE is the one wanting to know why but in his eyes, he can't make the connection. He is genuienly curious about this just as much as we all are.
Sam stop changing the subject & quoting me on things I NEVER said. If you want to know something, just ask. I've spent too much time explaining to you things that had you just asked, you would've known instead of automatically assuming. There are many different missing puzzle pieces but my point was to just give you guys a general summary of what's going on. I'd have to write a whole book to thoroughly explain everything & I don't think any of you would like that very much. I gave you a topic, hit on some points & asked people what they thought just based on what I was WILLING to share..if you want more details to help you form your opinion, just ask but don't go accusing me of stuff & putting words in my mouth.
Posted by sr1
huh?...as long as he stays away from children and farm animals...does it really matter?
I agree with that!
Maybe he's attracted to male like features but not into penises...? There could be many things behind this. It might be the sex role play, where he prefers to be in the females role, but not with a real man. He just might be attracted to some one strong and protective for personal reasons. I mean, I personally desire someone who I can feel pretected by, the idea that my man can fight off bad guys to keep me safe is important to me. Not overly protected or controled, but like a guird in a way since I've never had someone to protect me from my family growing up, so that's the reason I figured. I mean, I dream of a knight jumping in and taking me away from all my troubles lol that's my fantasy. And this might be his in another way. He might like the feeling of someone strong handling him sexually, and maybe even in more ways. But the fact that he dated a girl who wasn't like this... and not having sex... either it's the attraction part that he wants to be handled by some one strong.
If he happens to be gay and attracted to men without knowing it himself, or because he's hiding, he would more likely surround himself by men who are attractive and pretend it's friendship, or make up another excuse.
I don't see anything wrong with this at all unless he's making choices that affect his life in a bad way.
And hey, big stong women need a man to love them too. So lol it works 🙂
Posted by krysrenee7
@Sam: You are making assumptions & putting words in my mouth. Quote me when I supposedly said that I discuss all of my "findings" or "suspicions" with my friends. I'M WAITING.
Oh how FUN this will be!!!!
Your very first post: "We've come to the consensus that he's probably just bisexual and/or on the DL (down low) & we say this.."
Note all the WE's!
Same paragraph: "WE figure that he's using these women ..."
"The point of this post was to put SOME (not all) of the behaviors we've noticed out there to see if others possibly had the same opinion we had."
Please note the WE's again. You started out listing all the reasons why he's gay, hell the title of your post is "Is he GAY or..." You were asking here for people to confirm your suspicions of him being gay, not asking how to tell him this etc. or how he can change his behavior to come off as more straight. You are on a witch hunt. 😢
There are many men who are assumed to be gay and aren't. And there are men who are assumed to be straight but aren't. Some people just give out impressions that aren't as it seems. If he's comfortable to share as much as he has and not admit to you about feeling somewhat attracted to actual men then that's ... confusing. Because he's shared SO much personal things that he would clearly admit it if he felt such things.
If he's confused about other things then just why people think he's gay then he should explore himself more, he should 'experiment' as I call it. He should consider finding a built woman in the area and try to go out with her if he hasn't already. Everyone is attracted to something different. I mean, skinny or slender men, even hot ones don't turn me on. I have my different, and some times strange, attractions too.
And he shouldn't consider himself as some kind of science project, where he has to open himself up. He is how he is. And maybe he shares allot because he feels like he wants to know if it's normal or not through others opinions. If HE'S normal. I feel like he might be having a hard time accepting himself.
During high school I thought at one point that I was bisexual. And because I knew my family wouldn't accept I felt like I was wrong in many ways, that there is something wrong with me. But after accepting it, after looking at it clearly without what seemed right or wrong, what others think, either negative or possitive thoughts. I can say I still blush around a cute girl if she smiles at me and I feel some sort of attraction, but because I have no actual desire to be with a women I just let it be. SO I feel like flirting with a girl maybe, and the idea of kissing one might go through my mind, but I just let it be. And if I feel confussion and desire I'd let my close friends know, the ones I've already shared so much and trust. I mean, if my friends are around after knowing already some weird personal things I'd feel confident that they would still be around. And I would act on it too.
If he's confused about other things then just why people think he's gay then he should explore himself more, he should 'experiment' as I call it. He should consider finding a built woman in the area and try to go out with her if he hasn't already. Everyone is attracted to something different. I mean, skinny or slender men, even hot ones don't turn me on. I have my different, and some times strange, attractions too.
And he shouldn't consider himself as some kind of science project, where he has to open himself up. He is how he is. And maybe he shares allot because he feels like he wants to know if it's normal or not through others opinions. If HE'S normal. I feel like he might be having a hard time accepting himself.
During high school I thought at one point that I was bisexual. And because I knew my family wouldn't accept I felt like I was wrong in many ways, that there is something wrong with me. But after accepting it, after looking at it clearly without what seemed right or wrong, what others think, either negative or possitive thoughts. I can say I still blush around a cute girl if she smiles at me and I feel some sort of attraction, but because I have no actual desire to be with a women I just let it be. SO I feel like flirting with a girl maybe, and the idea of kissing one might go through my mind, but I just let it be. And if I feel confussion and desire I'd let my close friends know, the ones I've already shared so much and trust. I mean, if my friends are around after knowing already some weird personal things I'd feel confident that they would still be around. And I would act on it too.
If he says he's not interested in actual men after sharing SOOO much personal things then... maybe he just isn't interested in men. That simple, no? Despire his behaviar.
And I wanted to add that during high school there were allot of different weird things about me, like the way I'd feel about something, I'd share SO openly with people. The deep-down reason was to recieve others opinions and judge myself with the results I'd end up getting after... lol doing some kind of math with these answers. Sure, his personal things might be less common then mine, because certain things I've heard other girls shared too, doesn't mean that it's something bad.
The ONLY think that is important is that he understands why he feels this way, about the type of women he feels attracted to. I already figured out my reason for the ways I've felt and it's easier to accept when you have answers.
And I wanted to add that during high school there were allot of different weird things about me, like the way I'd feel about something, I'd share SO openly with people. The deep-down reason was to recieve others opinions and judge myself with the results I'd end up getting after... lol doing some kind of math with these answers. Sure, his personal things might be less common then mine, because certain things I've heard other girls shared too, doesn't mean that it's something bad.
The ONLY think that is important is that he understands why he feels this way, about the type of women he feels attracted to. I already figured out my reason for the ways I've felt and it's easier to accept when you have answers.
Okay, maybe she might be getting to into it as a mystery, or maybe this guy even knows about this post. Are we really here to just argue about who and why the hell are you getting so into it anyway? We're all guilty of being nosey about certain things. It's natural. We're curiouse creatures hunting for answers. "We" could even include the actual guy who's being assumed of being gay. We don't know that, do we? And she's not being negative about this friend so who are we to make it seem as she's not a good friend for asking any way? I didn't see a single word that translated to: I don't like this about him, he's wrong, he shouldn't be like this, it's not acceptable, he's a bad guy, he should change... none of that!
@Sam: I asked for your opinion on whether or not you thought he could be gay based on the info I'd given you. I didn't ask for you to critique my friendship skills. Yes I used "WE" alot but I also cleared it up & made it CLEAR that HE also was aware of OUR suspicions as well. So that arguement should've been squared away then.
Guys I put as much out there so that others would get a thorough concept of the situation, not b/c I am obsessing over the situation. So many times I read other's posts & it's hard for me to give them any advice b/c they haven't elaborated on certain things or brought the whole story together. I don't want to feel bad for trying to give you guys enough to go on so that you'd understand the situation. Had I just made this post into 1 sentence, people would've been asking for more insight anyways so I went ahead & gave it instead of waiting to be asked certain things.
Yes he is a very open guy with the people close to him BUT he's also said many times that he hates how society treats gay people when we've asked him how he felt about homosexuals. 1 minute he's completely homophobic & thinks anything homosexual is disgusting & the next minute he's completely the opposite & all for accepting homosexuals. THIS is another reason why we assumed he was gay. No matter what personality someone has and/or how open they may be, it's VERY COMMON for someone who is not yet comfortable with acknowledging their sexuality to hide it/cover it up. As open as this guy is, it'd make all the sense in the world if he didn't want to come out of the closet.
I posted this thread to get insight on whether or not people thought he was gay based on the info I was willing to share. I didn't post this thread to get critiqued on my friendship skills. And if someone asks a question & I answer it, I expect not for my answers to be challenged as if I have some sort of reason to lie. This guy is not some "experiment," or project I'm working on. It was a simple question and/or post no different than all the other THOUSANDS of posts on this site.
That's what this site is for. It's for people to vent about their personal experiences with others. If someone posts a thread genuienly needing advice, of course they're going to have to share some info, perhaps even personal info sometimes in order to give people a clear picture of the situation. After all, you guys don't know me & surely don't know him, so me sharing as much as I did was just so that YOU guys would get as clear a picture as possible on the situation. If I needed critiquing on my friendship skills, I would've asked for them. Instead people are changing the subject & questioning my loyalty to the friendship with him as if I'm completely wrong for asking for insight about something. Sheesh.
Yes he is a very open guy with the people close to him BUT he's also said many times that he hates how society treats gay people when we've asked him how he felt about homosexuals. 1 minute he's completely homophobic & thinks anything homosexual is disgusting & the next minute he's completely the opposite & all for accepting homosexuals. THIS is another reason why we assumed he was gay. No matter what personality someone has and/or how open they may be, it's VERY COMMON for someone who is not yet comfortable with acknowledging their sexuality to hide it/cover it up. As open as this guy is, it'd make all the sense in the world if he didn't want to come out of the closet.
I posted this thread to get insight on whether or not people thought he was gay based on the info I was willing to share. I didn't post this thread to get critiqued on my friendship skills. And if someone asks a question & I answer it, I expect not for my answers to be challenged as if I have some sort of reason to lie. This guy is not some "experiment," or project I'm working on. It was a simple question and/or post no different than all the other THOUSANDS of posts on this site.
That's what this site is for. It's for people to vent about their personal experiences with others. If someone posts a thread genuienly needing advice, of course they're going to have to share some info, perhaps even personal info sometimes in order to give people a clear picture of the situation. After all, you guys don't know me & surely don't know him, so me sharing as much as I did was just so that YOU guys would get as clear a picture as possible on the situation. If I needed critiquing on my friendship skills, I would've asked for them. Instead people are changing the subject & questioning my loyalty to the friendship with him as if I'm completely wrong for asking for insight about something. Sheesh.
" 1 minute he's completely homophobic & thinks anything homosexual is disgusting & the next minute he's completely the opposite & all for accepting homosexuals"
Let me put it in a different perspective:
I could think Abortion is a horrible, horrible thing but also be pro-choice at the same time.
So, while I wholly support the right for gay people to get married, I gag at even the thought of me going down on a woman as I am a straight female and Love Cock.
Just to be clear, I am not challenging your answer/post just trying to explain how a person can be for something and at the same time be against it as well.
Let me put it in a different perspective:
I could think Abortion is a horrible, horrible thing but also be pro-choice at the same time.
So, while I wholly support the right for gay people to get married, I gag at even the thought of me going down on a woman as I am a straight female and Love Cock.
Just to be clear, I am not challenging your answer/post just trying to explain how a person can be for something and at the same time be against it as well.
@Sam: And that's perfectly understandable.
His viewpoint on homosexuality changes depending on who he's around. For example, when him & I discussed another mutual friend of ours (male) that had recently came out of the closet, my friend was quick to put down anyone who had a problem with our friend coming out. But yet the very next week when others were heard talking about the same guy, my friend all of the sudden became homophobic all over again & stated that society should put a negative jab on gays b/c it's wrong. So him constantly not even being sure of whether he can even accept another homosexual is what caught my attention.
I've done research before on the nature of homosexual males who have not yet acknowledged to others (or even themselves) that they are homosexual. I had to research this topic for a paper I wrote back in college. And to my surprise, alot of men who were NOW out of the closet described their viewpoints & behaviors back when they were still in the closet. And 1 of the things I remember sticking out to me the most was that men on the downlow tend to appear to be extremely homophobic; almost as if they feel their homosexuality is being hidden when they openly denounce gays
His viewpoint on homosexuality changes depending on who he's around. For example, when him & I discussed another mutual friend of ours (male) that had recently came out of the closet, my friend was quick to put down anyone who had a problem with our friend coming out. But yet the very next week when others were heard talking about the same guy, my friend all of the sudden became homophobic all over again & stated that society should put a negative jab on gays b/c it's wrong. So him constantly not even being sure of whether he can even accept another homosexual is what caught my attention.
I've done research before on the nature of homosexual males who have not yet acknowledged to others (or even themselves) that they are homosexual. I had to research this topic for a paper I wrote back in college. And to my surprise, alot of men who were NOW out of the closet described their viewpoints & behaviors back when they were still in the closet. And 1 of the things I remember sticking out to me the most was that men on the downlow tend to appear to be extremely homophobic; almost as if they feel their homosexuality is being hidden when they openly denounce gays
The same thing goes for some secretely gay men purposely being promiscious with women in an attempt to cover up for the fact that they really like men. In THEIR minds, they feel that if they are showing others how much they are attracted to the opposite sex, it'll be the perfect cover-up just in case others were persay even thinking about questioning their sexuality.
A gay male friend of mine told me that he used to purposely be promiscious & surround himself around girls all the time so that to his fellow male peers, he seemed like the normal & typical guy whose interested in girls. Only difference though was that this guy was chasing after women he wasn't even attracted to, BUT b/c they were technically women, he got the job done of hiding his true sexuality. And I've noticed this trend with a few other gay friends of mine that finally came out of the closet.
It's like a mind game of denial that some of them play with themselves. They're always paranoid & their guilty conscious naturally makes them assume that others are watching them closely & checking to make sure they're straight like every one else. What they don't realize though is that generally when a person tends to OVER-stress about something they generally wouldn't be passionate about any other time, it usually means the opposite. It's kind of like when you're with someone whose a liar. Liars are always in constant fear of being lied to; they're always accusing others of doing what THEY are the ones really doing b/c hey, it's their guilty conscious. And I felt that my friend being a little over the top in being homophobic actually made me start thinking the opposite. Instead of me saying, "Sheesh he must really be straight," I thought, "Hmmm, he's probably gay himself."
It's very common for someone to hold a sort of contempt for the very things they are secretly all for/doing themselves
A gay male friend of mine told me that he used to purposely be promiscious & surround himself around girls all the time so that to his fellow male peers, he seemed like the normal & typical guy whose interested in girls. Only difference though was that this guy was chasing after women he wasn't even attracted to, BUT b/c they were technically women, he got the job done of hiding his true sexuality. And I've noticed this trend with a few other gay friends of mine that finally came out of the closet.
It's like a mind game of denial that some of them play with themselves. They're always paranoid & their guilty conscious naturally makes them assume that others are watching them closely & checking to make sure they're straight like every one else. What they don't realize though is that generally when a person tends to OVER-stress about something they generally wouldn't be passionate about any other time, it usually means the opposite. It's kind of like when you're with someone whose a liar. Liars are always in constant fear of being lied to; they're always accusing others of doing what THEY are the ones really doing b/c hey, it's their guilty conscious. And I felt that my friend being a little over the top in being homophobic actually made me start thinking the opposite. Instead of me saying, "Sheesh he must really be straight," I thought, "Hmmm, he's probably gay himself."
It's very common for someone to hold a sort of contempt for the very things they are secretly all for/doing themselves
One of my best girls is a body builder and yes they are ripped but until I watched her before and during a comp I found that they train for months for one comp and then they actually go back to their normal body weight after the comps! Up to 10 kilos heavier!!! The idea is that they have to lose all the fat around those muscles in order to show them off and they also paint themselves in the darkest of tanning colour because under the lights it defines the muscles better too.
But they cant and dont live like that in normal living unless they are competing again quickly! You should see what these people eat the day after their competition!!! I have a different appreciation to what they do and can achieve, it certainly isnt an easy thing to chose to do and it really boosts their self-esteem.
As for your friend he obviously appreciates someone as dedicated as he is to bodybuilding and also they have meets from all over the world not just National competitions. Some take the risk of taking steriods which can lower sexual desire however if they get caught that would be the end of the road for them.
But they cant and dont live like that in normal living unless they are competing again quickly! You should see what these people eat the day after their competition!!! I have a different appreciation to what they do and can achieve, it certainly isnt an easy thing to chose to do and it really boosts their self-esteem.
As for your friend he obviously appreciates someone as dedicated as he is to bodybuilding and also they have meets from all over the world not just National competitions. Some take the risk of taking steriods which can lower sexual desire however if they get caught that would be the end of the road for them.
@Sweethearts..I completely understand & appreciate the art of body building for both men & women. 2 of the women in my family are builders & my father was actually a body builder back in his day so my suspicions of him being gay aren't out of spite or disrespect for body building.
I know that alot of those women do not look like that all year long, nor will most of them continue to look like that years down the road unless they continue to train & compete hard. BUT my friend is interested in the women who RIGHT NOW look this way. He doesn't seek out these women's before & after headshots. He's only attracted to women who literally are as buff as steal. Even stranger, he's only attracted to female body building. He's admitted that he does not even know or care for any men who body build & this struck me as odd. If his fetish with women body builders stemmed from his general appreciating of body building period, it's kind of weird that he ONLY speaks to and/or discusses body building with only women, not men. A person infatuated with body building on the level he does would befriend AND share that appreciation with males too. Him only targeting the women says to me that while yes, he might share a general appreciation for body building in general, he's mainly attracted to only women b/c of how they physically look moreso than the sport of body building itself.
I know that alot of those women do not look like that all year long, nor will most of them continue to look like that years down the road unless they continue to train & compete hard. BUT my friend is interested in the women who RIGHT NOW look this way. He doesn't seek out these women's before & after headshots. He's only attracted to women who literally are as buff as steal. Even stranger, he's only attracted to female body building. He's admitted that he does not even know or care for any men who body build & this struck me as odd. If his fetish with women body builders stemmed from his general appreciating of body building period, it's kind of weird that he ONLY speaks to and/or discusses body building with only women, not men. A person infatuated with body building on the level he does would befriend AND share that appreciation with males too. Him only targeting the women says to me that while yes, he might share a general appreciation for body building in general, he's mainly attracted to only women b/c of how they physically look moreso than the sport of body building itself.
Posted by Prince_Pisces
His family / friends may have nothing to do with him.
well then that just proves they're not worthy of associating with anymore. i dont know why gay people get so upset if friends/family dont accept them. . .if they dont accept you, then why are you giving them the time of day? obviously they dont really care for you lol
Because family means something to them.
But I like your way of thinking.
Posted by Prince_Pisces
I know that, but who wants a family that doesnt accept them?
I guess its the same with any kind of relationship. The more emotion invested into something the more difficult it becomes to let go of...?
Yea, even if your family doesn't accept you it's tough. I know it.
And I'm guessing he sure is hidding something. Because the whole pretending to be against gays with other people and sharing with a close friend in privacy that he doesn't like that people don't accept it is just obvious. I don't know if confronting him this way would do though. It's tough but he's going through allot of things inside and doesn't even know it, or wants to know. He's living a lie. And not accepting himself. And not accepting yourself, you wouldn't know what to accept! It's like he's digging a hole, deeper and deeper he digs. He's going to have to climb out of it one day, but that's something only he can do. Figuring out what up with him isn't going to change it. I wish him luck.
And I'm guessing he sure is hidding something. Because the whole pretending to be against gays with other people and sharing with a close friend in privacy that he doesn't like that people don't accept it is just obvious. I don't know if confronting him this way would do though. It's tough but he's going through allot of things inside and doesn't even know it, or wants to know. He's living a lie. And not accepting himself. And not accepting yourself, you wouldn't know what to accept! It's like he's digging a hole, deeper and deeper he digs. He's going to have to climb out of it one day, but that's something only he can do. Figuring out what up with him isn't going to change it. I wish him luck.
Has he got a little wiener maybe?? You know sounds like he has a problem there... you know the ads saying a huge percentage of guys cant get or maintain an erection. That would explain the no sex...idk spose it's hard to ask even a mate about that sort of subject and if he is in the closet then only when he is ready if at all would he come out. Does it really matter as you are only mates and you cant help someone unless they want help!
What concerns you the most Kry?
What concerns you the most Kry?
Posted by amethyst2002
The only part that screams gay is the part where the girlfriend threw herself at him and he wouldn't do her. Maybe he's gay and doesn't know it yet or ready to admit it yet...?
The rest is just his weird kink.
I agree with this. Everyone has a preference to what they are attracted to.
Posted by Prince_Pisces
Because family means something to them.
I know that, but who wants a family that doesnt accept them? if my family, or anyone else close to me, were to tell me they didnt accept who i am, they'd be in the rear view mirror, before they could even say bye lol. i dont give a damn if your blood or not LOL
I agree with you a 150% . Who wants to be around and/or associate with people who do NOT accept you for who you are. I'm not talking about accepting someone who is a serial killer or child predator (I'm not comparing being gay to being a serial killer or child predator btw, just making a point). I think that if more people would expend as much time getting their own lives in order, they wouldn't have such an inordinate amount of time to opine and worry about other peoples lives.
If I were gay and my friends and family didn't accept it, I wouldn't talk to them anymore either. For me, it's really that simple. Sounds harsh, but why spend your time trying to please people who don't even accept who you are—? Life is too short to kiss anybody's a $ $ or try to be "accepted" by those who are not accepting you for (in my opinion) an inconsequential reason - friend or family, but, to each his/her own.
Posted by Prince_Pisces
Because family means something to them.
I know that, but who wants a family that doesnt accept them? if my family, or anyone else close to me, were to tell me they didnt accept who i am, they'd be in the rear view mirror, before they could even say bye lol. i dont give a damn if your blood or not LOL
That was real ...
I like that Prince 🙂 I *heart* this passage actually.
Yes, you have to live for you, it's your life -- not your mom's or your dad's or etc. Your life.
Posted by USCTaurusGalPosted by Prince_Pisces
Because family means something to them.
I know that, but who wants a family that doesnt accept them? if my family, or anyone else close to me, were to tell me they didnt accept who i am, they'd be in the rear view mirror, before they could even say bye lol. i dont give a damn if your blood or not LOL
I agree with you a 150% . Who wants to be around and/or associate with people who do NOT accept you for who you are. I'm not talking about accepting someone who is a serial killer or child predator (I'm not comparing being gay to being a serial killer or child predator btw, just making a point). I think that if more people would expend as much time getting their own lives in order, they wouldn't have such an inordinate amount of time to opine and worry about other peoples lives.
If I were gay and my friends and family didn't accept it, I wouldn't talk to them anymore either. For me, it's really that simple. Sounds harsh, but why spend your time trying to please people who don't even accept who you are—? Life is too short to kiss anybody's a $ $ or try to be "accepted" by those who are not accepting you for (in my opinion) an inconsequential reason - friend or family, but, to each his/her own.click to expand
OMG, if I were gay, I'd be the coolest because I don't think I have to ability to hide what I like so I would be so open about it.
Would my mom disapprove sure, but whatever, I wouldn't marry a man to make her happy either! I mean NO! That's just sad 😢
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be gay though, with all this Aqua influence, I'd be such a player 😛 😛 😛
hahaha, once I like to my mom for a whole week about being bi-sexual. She was so freaking distaught about the whole thing. By the end of the week I had to tell her "NO MOM, I like guys I was testing you", because I swear, she was going to have a heartache over the whole thing.
It just sucks because what if I was gay or bi-sexual for real and she behaved that way. OMG, I'm straight and I was upset at the fact that she was so enraged about it :/
It just sucks because what if I was gay or bi-sexual for real and she behaved that way. OMG, I'm straight and I was upset at the fact that she was so enraged about it :/
@Sweet: Well I personally have never seen his "weiner" lol but like I've said, I knew alot of his ex girlfriends & any of the girls he's ever really been sexual with b/c of how close me & him were. And word on the street was that he was pretty packin'. That's another reason why I got very suspicious when I was finding out that he wasn't very sexually active with his own girlfriend or really with most of the women he's ever liked or dated.
It'd be diff. if they all said "HE SUCKS!" If that was word on the street, it'd be a pretty good chance he probably heard the same things & that might've explained why he's only got a strong enough sex drive for porn on the computer moreso than for his own girlfriend whom HE personally picked out & choose to be with.
@ Prince: I understand your thinking. We are all trained & taught not to give 2 shXts about the people who don't love and/or accept us. It's easy to let go of friends, ex's or mates who don't seem to accept us for who we really are, but it's a WHOLE nother' story to walk away from a family whose been there from the day you were born, unlike anybody else we will ever meet in our lives. Plus, not all families who are against homosexuality are against their actual children. They're against the art of homosexuality, not the child him/herself. And there's a difference. What if you were making bad decisions or hanging with the wrong crowd..would you disown your own parents for not liking/accepting certain behaviors? Probably not.
Granted, there are some parents/families who are 100% willing to completely disown their children if they are homosexual & I don't necessarily agree with this, but man I do think though that it IS okay to be against some things. I'm against rape & murder for example. Sure, I'm against these things from a moral standpoint BUT I'm also against them from a religious standpoint b/c of my beliefs. So a parent/family member not approving of homosexuality (not b/c they're trying to be mean) all b/c they are being loyal to their religion is not necessarily a bad thing. We all have a right to stand up for our rights & have our opinions, whether we all agree or not.
It'd be diff. if they all said "HE SUCKS!" If that was word on the street, it'd be a pretty good chance he probably heard the same things & that might've explained why he's only got a strong enough sex drive for porn on the computer moreso than for his own girlfriend whom HE personally picked out & choose to be with.
@ Prince: I understand your thinking. We are all trained & taught not to give 2 shXts about the people who don't love and/or accept us. It's easy to let go of friends, ex's or mates who don't seem to accept us for who we really are, but it's a WHOLE nother' story to walk away from a family whose been there from the day you were born, unlike anybody else we will ever meet in our lives. Plus, not all families who are against homosexuality are against their actual children. They're against the art of homosexuality, not the child him/herself. And there's a difference. What if you were making bad decisions or hanging with the wrong crowd..would you disown your own parents for not liking/accepting certain behaviors? Probably not.
Granted, there are some parents/families who are 100% willing to completely disown their children if they are homosexual & I don't necessarily agree with this, but man I do think though that it IS okay to be against some things. I'm against rape & murder for example. Sure, I'm against these things from a moral standpoint BUT I'm also against them from a religious standpoint b/c of my beliefs. So a parent/family member not approving of homosexuality (not b/c they're trying to be mean) all b/c they are being loyal to their religion is not necessarily a bad thing. We all have a right to stand up for our rights & have our opinions, whether we all agree or not.
I personally am not homosexual BUT if I had a child who was homosexual, would I like it? Well no b/c I don't identify with that life style . BUT would I disown & purposely mistreat my child all b/c of their sexual preference? No.
There's nothing wrong with a parent being disappointed that their children/family members are homosexual no different than there's nothing wrong with a parent not accepting or necessarily smiling at their children doing drugs or commiting crimes. We all have a "dislike list." Some people are just more quick to distance themselves from anything they feel is not prosperous for them. And to some people, it's not that they're trying to be mean or judgemental, but hey just like gays have a right to like gays, straight people have a right to not like gays.
Homosexuals are regular human beings. Straight people aren't the only ones who have "dislike lists" or things they'd prefer not to associate with. Gay people also have their preferences & of course to those who don't share the same preference, even that gay person might seem like a "hater," but only b/c people hate to be disagreed with and/or not supported when they support something. That's just the nature of life.
Just like I wouldn't encourage a parent/family member to completely mistreat another family member living differently than them, I'd also not encourage the mistreated one to believe that the answer to all of their problems is in disowning or writing off everything/everyone who doesn't always agree with them or support them. Hell if we were only supposed to surround ourselves with people who would accept us 100% NONE of us would have any friends, any companions or any family members. There should be a balance. That parent who doesn't agree with homosexuality has the right not to agree with it BUT they can also still treat that person with respect; someone who is gay has a right to feel hurt b/c they are not fully accepted BUT before running, they can also understand/accept this to be a reality they will never be able to escape
There's nothing wrong with a parent being disappointed that their children/family members are homosexual no different than there's nothing wrong with a parent not accepting or necessarily smiling at their children doing drugs or commiting crimes. We all have a "dislike list." Some people are just more quick to distance themselves from anything they feel is not prosperous for them. And to some people, it's not that they're trying to be mean or judgemental, but hey just like gays have a right to like gays, straight people have a right to not like gays.
Homosexuals are regular human beings. Straight people aren't the only ones who have "dislike lists" or things they'd prefer not to associate with. Gay people also have their preferences & of course to those who don't share the same preference, even that gay person might seem like a "hater," but only b/c people hate to be disagreed with and/or not supported when they support something. That's just the nature of life.
Just like I wouldn't encourage a parent/family member to completely mistreat another family member living differently than them, I'd also not encourage the mistreated one to believe that the answer to all of their problems is in disowning or writing off everything/everyone who doesn't always agree with them or support them. Hell if we were only supposed to surround ourselves with people who would accept us 100% NONE of us would have any friends, any companions or any family members. There should be a balance. That parent who doesn't agree with homosexuality has the right not to agree with it BUT they can also still treat that person with respect; someone who is gay has a right to feel hurt b/c they are not fully accepted BUT before running, they can also understand/accept this to be a reality they will never be able to escape
Again, I agree with you PP. Barring my mom (mind you both my parents are still alive) I could care less about anybody else and would drop them out of my life like a hot potatoe. Again, life is too short to expend time trying to appease others. I was raised in a very religious household. I gives a damn! I am spiritual moreso than religious. Some of the most hypcritical and disgusting people I've known in my life were religious and went/go to church several days of the week. They are still disgusting and hypocritical to me. There are good and bad people in all walks of life. I don't poopoo anybody's upbringing even if I don't agree with it, but again my life is my f@cking life and as long as I'm not hurting anybody else I'm living my life as I see fit. If I had a child and they were gay. I wouldn't love them ANY LESS and you can take THAT to the bank.
Just because a girl threw herself at him and he refused doesnt mean he's gay.
Unfortunately there are many females out there who seem to be under this illusion that merely being female makes them irresistable to any man - not true!!
Do u fancy every guy you see?
Unfortunately there are many females out there who seem to be under this illusion that merely being female makes them irresistable to any man - not true!!
Do u fancy every guy you see?
I don't think he's gay, He just has a fetish of what type of women he likes.
The big thing is why are you so obsessed with what he likes. If you think he's gay then he obviously not the man for you. Keep it moving.
The big thing is why are you so obsessed with what he likes. If you think he's gay then he obviously not the man for you. Keep it moving.
Posted by jules4242
I don't think he's gay, He just has a fetish of what type of women he likes.
The big thing is why are you so obsessed with what he likes. If you think he's gay then he obviously not the man for you. Keep it moving.
Obsessed? Wow so I write a post trying to explain with as much detail as possible what's going on with a friend of mine, & me simply writing a post means that I'm obsessed?! Well hell in that case, that means everyone who starts any topics/posts on this site must be "obsessed" with whatever it is they are writing about. This post was simply about me trying to get different opinions from others who are unbiased.
I don't know if you've been reading but um, I don't want him. I never have wanted him, therefore him being the "man for me" is irrelevant at this point. If I wanted him, I wouldn't have sat back & watched him fall in & out of love with other females. He's just a good friend AND platonic friend of mine, that's it. Even if I didn't suspect that he was gay, I still wouldn't want him in that way. Sheeesh!
This was never about me. I've never wanted him in that way. It was about the fact that some of the things he's doing/some of the people he's entertaining have been quote on quote deemed "suspicious" by all of our mutual friends. This guy keeps wondering why some people suspect him of being gay & yet when we try to tell him, he looks so confused. Like I've said, there are MORE/OTHER reasons why we think he's gay; him just so having to be attracted to very masculine women was just the icing on the cake, not the cake itself
I hope he's not on the DL, but not b/c I have a problem with anyone whose homosexual. No, it's about the mental torment & turmoil men on the DL go through. It's about me hating that IF he actually is gay, that he'd go to such great lengths to hide it/cover it up; I've said all along that I & alot of other people may be wrong, BUT just in case we're not wrong, it sucks for us as his friends b/c we can only imagine how much it has to hurt him that he can't be true to his own desires
LMAO! LMAO! LMAO!
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A friend of mine (male) is what I'd consider masculine BUT he also has some feminine tendencies too. BUT this guy is totatlly infatuated & sexually attracted to very MASCULINE-LOOKING WOMEN.
-He's been caught browsing PORN sites that promote women body builders.
-He's got pictures in his phone (that he purposely saves) from women (some are his friends & some he met online) & in some cases, it'll just be a picture of persay a woman's abs or 6 pack
-Every time you get on Facebook, it says that he's added 5-10 new friends daily. And when you click to check who these new friends are, they're ALL female body builders, in which some are not even living in the same area or state he lives in so it's very APPARENT that he PURPOSELY goes out of his way to SEEK these women.
-He's a commitment phobe BUT he's also a ladie's man & has lots of female friends (non body builders) around him at all times, but surprisingly, he does NOT really get it on sexually with these women. In fact, when he actually had a girlfriend, she constantly complained about how they rarely had sex EVEN WHEN she'd literally throw her body at him.
We've come to the consensus that he's probably just bisexual and/or on the DL (down low) & we say this considering we find it very odd for a man to be THAT attracted to women that literally look like men. Not to disrespect women in that industry, but hey something just isn't right! If you look at some of the pics of these women, they literally look like men! LITERALLY! We figure that he's using these women body builders as a cover up for what he REALLY likes & that is men.
What do you guys think?