My friend is heartbroken =(

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1 of my best friends just recently found out that the guy she's been dating (4 months) lied to her about having a facebook page. When she typed in his name, she not only saw that he'd clearly had a page since 2007 BUT she also came across a bunch of his statuses (dating back to Nov-when they 1st met) where he was professing his love to another woman!

But that's not what hurt her the most...

What hurt more was that when she texted him & confronted him with what she'd found, his response (or lack thereof) was the exact opposite of what she was expecting. She texted him saying, "If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."

His response? "I never lied to you, but ok, thanx & I will." BOOM! That's it! He didn't try to explain himself or nothing!

The point of this post: When you really care about someone, you'll do whatever you can to salvage the relationship, especially if the other person has their facts wrong. When a person sees you walking out of their life & yet shrugs it off & says, "Ok. BYE" like it's no big deal, it's b/c they never gave a flying flip to begin with!

I'm not saying this guy should've kissed her ass or begged her for forgiveness or really for anything. But then again I am. This guy had just spend all last week trying to convince her that he was super serious about her & that he wanted to be in a relationship with her. But yet when he gets caught up, he acts as if he can AFFORD to lose her, just shrugs her off & says, "Ok bye."

Even worse, he blocked her on facebook & made it so that she couldn't contact him again. WOW. What a douche!

Don't you hate it when someone is OFFENDED/INSULTED that you caught them red-handed? Almost as if you are bothering them all b/c you feel you deserve an explanation/some clarity on what's going on?!

I've seen guys do this before in the past. Claim they really like a woman, but yet the min. she gets doubts or wants to leave, he'll just allow her to w/o fighting for her or atleast trying to figure out why she's all of the sudden so upset.

In some cases, a person's silence or hesitation to explain themselves speaks volumes & is the best indicator that they never cared!
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At 1st, she couldn't understand why he'd lied to her about having a fb page. Who lies about that? Not only did she type his name in & find his profile, but she could also see ALL of his activity since his profile didn't have any privacy settings.

Once she saw all the statuses he'd put up about his love for this mystery woman, a lightbulb clicked in her head & she knew exactly why he'd lied to her about having a fb page.

I mean seriously people, if you're gonna lie, be a player, a cheater or WHATEVER, doon't be sloppy! Know that whatever you put on the WORLD WIDE WEB can be seen by who? The WORLD WIDE WEB! A person doesn't have to be stalking you or be nosy to see what you've shared with the WORLD.

After this guy blocked her & didn't respond to any of her later texts, he decided to text her this morning (in response to her text last night) saying, "Know this, you were the only woman I was talking to at the time. But thanx anyways."

Her response to that? She said, "If I was the only woman you were dating/seeing, why are you professing your love to/for another woman on facebook?"

His response? NOTHING! Nada! He should've never texted her today! He purposely responded to her text this morning b/c he probably had time to think about things. He should've just left things the way they were last night when he completely ignored her & shrugged her off. Now he's texting her again & STILL denying what she saw with her own eyes!

I just don't get people these days!
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4 months is not long enough to really know someone. I have been divorced for just under 2 years and I had to learn that it takes time to see a person's true colors. Maybe he was still involved with someone a few months ago. But he may've started having deeper feelings for your friend recently. She should've asked him in person about his FB page. Not in a text. A text is cold and she cannot see his reaction in person. He might've told her something that she wanted to hear. Instead, her cold text gave the impression that she was ending it without letting him explain.
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She texted him saying, "If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."







The friend sends a messege of trying to manipulate the man, instead of being real ... she plays head games, she gets burnt.

It's not rocket science.



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People being ignorant is a huge turn off for me ... here we see where a woman thinks this ..

"The point of this post: When you really care about someone, you'll do whatever you can to salvage the relationship, especially if the other person has their facts wrong."

The reality is .... if this woman really cared about the man, she would follow that advise and do whatever she can to salvage the situation, because she might have her facts wrong. Instead of practicing being a mature adult, she handles herself this way ...

"If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."

Which is to attempt to lay a guilt trip on him, before she even finds out whether her suspicions are accurate .. she insinuates to him that she doesn't trust him, and that he is guilty of decieving her (again, without finding out whether her speculation has merit) ... and tells him that he's wasted her time.

His response? "I never lied to you, but ok, thanx & I will." BOOM! That's it! He didn't try to explain himself or nothing!

In her doing this (allowed sarcasm, as it's been presented by Sherlock wannabe) ... she believes she has sufficiently manuevered him into coming clean with the truth because she clearly is upset that he isn't being forcoming. She wasn't expecting him to walk away .. she was expecting him to come running to her, feeling horrible for lying to her.

She only said that to try and MAKE him respond with remorse.

"When a person sees you walking out of their life & yet shrugs it off & says, "Ok. BYE" like it's no big deal, it's b/c they never gave a flying flip to begin with!"

Above, we see how fucked up the point of this post is (as it says the point of the post) .... she is saying that the person who was pushed away (the guy) should run to get back the person walking out of his life ... when in reality, she suggested to him that he was useless to her, which gives him the impression he isn't wanted - yet, it is expected of him to have the responsibility of fixing the relationship in which she ended by implying he's a waste.


All of this could have been avoided if she just talked to him straight up like an adult instead of trying to play some sort of head game with him via a guilt trip. If this is the tone she had set all along .... then of course he's going to have the re
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All of this could have been avoided if she just talked to him straight up like an adult instead of trying to play some sort of head game with him via a guilt trip. If this is the tone she had set all along .... then of course he's going to have the reaction of cya, bye bye



It was all a manipulation to try and get him to run to her making amends ... why else would there be a surprise of his reaction? If she really meant that it was finished then there'd be no upset about his response.


Actually, this lady might not have cared at all about his response ... it's likely just Krys being dramatic and her not liking his response.
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She texted him saying, "If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."




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P-Angel, STOP talking. Here you go again trying to turn this into a "roasting session" about me. Everything else you've had to say got ignored b/c it's obvious that you didn't come to this post to help, but moreso to hate, single me out & target me once AGAIN. Damn, I didn't realize your obsession with me was THAT deep! (sigh)

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"Once she saw all the statuses he'd put up about his love for this mystery woman, a lightbulb clicked in her head & she knew exactly why he'd lied to her about having a fb page."


That is a quote from the thread, and it's just one example of a valid point .... the creator of this thread is talking from her own opinions and trying to convince people this is from her friend.

In reality ... most of this thread is about what Krys thinks and her opinions of how she views this situation and very little facts .. in fact, neither of the two people who participated in this relationship are here at all, speaking.


You sure do like drama, Krys.

You lied about having 4 books published with a company that has never existed, and you can tattle to god all you want to .... that won't make me forget that you lied, and I'll make sure every person in dxp knows that instead of telling the truth ... you run like a coward.
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What she saw on his facebook page was very loud & clear. He'd written over 13 statuses confessing his love to another woman, in HIS OWN words.

So by the time she saw it, there was nothing really to question him about or ask him. The proof was in the pudding; it was right there in her face. How else can you interpret a status that says, "Lord, please bring me & this special lady (you know who you are) back together. I love her more than life itself.

Plus, he was already "serious" with her around the SAME time he wrote those statuses, therefore he screwed himself by insinuating that he was in love with another woman while yet trying to start something new with someone else. THAT'S why she was so hurt.

Instead of asking him if she was imagining things, her focus shifted to wanting to know WHY.

1. Why he lied about having a fb page period?
2. And why he'd lied to her when he told her that he wasn't seeing anyone else but her during the time they were dating?

Yeah she's hurt, but she's also done. Her seeing that he had intense feelings for another woman was enough incentive for her to cut him off b/c she knows the cardinal rule that getting serious with someone whose still in love with another person is a dead-end road. THAT is why she texted him from the beginning & worded it in such that he knew immediately that she was done with him in that way.

She's disappointed b/c she thought that if he had even 1 ounce of respect for her that he would've atleast responded to her. The way in which he ignored her was even worse. He made it seem like HE Was the one who was offended, being inconveinanced & didn't want to be bothered when yet HE was the 1 who was in the wrong. She was expecting this man to atleast have the balls to apologize or give her some type of closure.

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P-Angel, STOP talking. Here you go again trying to turn this into a "roasting session" about me. Everything else you've had to say got ignored b/c it's obvious that you didn't come to this post to help, but moreso to hate, single me out & target me once AGAIN. Damn, I didn't realize your obsession with me was THAT deep! (sigh)






It is about you .... 99% of OP is about how you view the situation .. you.

There is nothing to help about, you are talking about second hand information, aka: gossip

You will be targeted until you fess up and tell the truth.

I'm deep, bitch .. you wanna find out how far it goes?
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P-Angel, STOP talking. Here you go again trying to turn this into a "roasting session" about me. Everything else you've had to say got ignored b/c it's obvious that you didn't come to this post to help, but moreso to hate, single me out & target me once AGAIN. Damn, I didn't realize your obsession with me was THAT deep! (sigh)





I'm deep, bitch .. you wanna find out how far it goes?
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Sure. Keep going. You're 1 of the only few people I've ever heard of that actually DOESN'T mind embarrassing themselves over & over again. Whatever floats your boat!

I'm not the 1 making this about me, YOU are!

But anywho, I refuse to entertain you once again trying to change the subject. If you actually knew my friend, THEN you'd maybe even a little bit be able to tell me what she's thinking, but you know nothing so quit mistaking your false assumptions as facts.

Anyways, back to the subject...
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I'm not the 1 making this about me, YOU are!

... THEN you'd maybe even a little bit be able to tell me what she's thinking, but you know nothing so quit mistaking your false assumptions as facts.

Anyways, back to the subject






Actually, you are making it about you, and I'm pointing it out ... you have taken another persons situation to talk about how you view it, with your own opinions, and claiming them to be her mind.

I cannot tell what she is thinking ... you think you can, which really equates to you thinking your false assumptions are facts ... and I'm merely pointing that out.

I was already on topic when I pointed out that this is second hand information in which you have thrown in your views and opinions on the matter and trying to tell us .... this is how this woman is thinking and feeling.


You don't know this womans mind, you don't know the intimate details and yet you type it here and say it's truth.
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@QuietStorm: You're right. I told her she was lucky that she'd even found out such so early.

After she found out that he was professing his love for another woman during the time they were dating, she mentally clocked out & disconnected. She knew that no matter HOW she confronted him about it that she was done.

After all, there's really nothing that he could've said that would've made her feel better. Had he denied everything (which he sort of did) that would've made him a liar & someone who was trying to play her for a fool. Had he been honest, yes it would've still hurt BUT she would've atleast respected him a little bit more & had her closure.

She's not mad at him for being in love with another woman (the heart wants what the heart wants). She's mad at him for telling the dating site world that he was free & ready to start something serious, when yet he was on facebook saying something completely the opposite! Someone being dishonest with you will ALWAYS hurt.

But either way, she didn't want him to tell her what he thought she wanted to hear, she wanted the truth. She didn't expect him to ignore her & run away as if SHE'D been the 1 in the wrong.

When she asked me what I thought about this, I told her: 1. You got caught up so he's probably figuring, F it! There's no use for explaining. 2. He probably wasn't all that into you anyways (maybe a little bit but NOT ENOUGH). 3. She should just accept that he'll probably never explain & that she'll never get the closure she really wanted.

My friend's experience with this guy reminded me of how backwards things in dating/relationships can be sometimes. When you truly care about someone, you explain yourself. It's not about whether or not they'll believe you (that's just the risk you take). It's about having atleast the decency to attempt to explain or redeem yourself.

If you accuse your partner of cheating on you & yet all they have to say is, "Ok bye" I'm sure most of you would be like wait a minute? That's it?! That's all you have to say!?
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If you accuse your partner of cheating on you & yet all they have to say is, "Ok bye" I'm sure most of you would be like wait a minute? That's it?! That's all you have to say!?

Well that's how she felt. She told me that she wasn't expecting for this guy to aggressively beg her or chase her down. But she did expect something, NOT silence!

Sometimes it's about having the decency to go back & apologize and/or admit your faults EVEN if/after it might be too late. Just b/c someone cuts you off (especially if it's for good reason) doesn't mean that they no longer deserve an apology or explanation b/c if so, that'd be unfair to the person who got hurt. That's like saying, "I'll only apologize/admit my mistakes IF you stay around." Well that's not fair. THAT sounds more like manipulation than anything!

You can't truly be sorry or ready to admit your mistakes if you're only willing to apologize on condition. Most people get cut off, dumped, let go (or whatever you wanna call it) after they've wronged someone, but that doesn't mean that the person who did wrong shouldn't apologize or atleast own up to their bull. That's what "closure" means. And yes, getting closure can absolutely make a difference sometimes. Personally, even if I want to end things with someone, I want to do them on good terms (even IF I really just wanted to cuss them out)--and it's b/c there are just some things that you'll NATURALLY do (even if it kills you or means you have to be vulnerable) when you have respect for someone.



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She texted him saying, "If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."







The friend sends a messege of trying to manipulate the man, instead of being real ... she plays head games, she gets burnt.

It's not rocket science.



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right on.
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If you accuse your partner of cheating on you & yet all they have to say is, "Ok bye" I'm sure most of you would be like wait a minute? That's it?! That's all you have to say!?





not everyone is going to apologize for the things that they do. no one "deserves" and explanation for anything. people only give explanations when they want 2. in this case, he didnt feel like he owed her one. she was probably more invested into the relationship than he was obviously.
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If you accuse your partner of cheating on you & yet all they have to say is, "Ok bye" I'm sure most of you would be like wait a minute? That's it?! That's all you have to say!?




not everyone is going to apologize for the things that they do. no one "deserves" and explanation for anything. people only give explanations when they want 2. in this case, he didnt feel like he owed her one. she was probably more invested into the relationship than he was obviously.
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You're right. There are just sometimes when people will refuse to explain or apology. That's life.

And yes, what hurt her the most was that his silence/lack of apologies confirmed that she was more invested in the relationship than he was, whereas just last week everything was fine & the admiration for 1 another seemed to be equally mutual.

I think everyone actually deserves an apology when they've been wronged in any way. Some people may not actually give that apology, but I believe that if you've done wrong, the right thing to do is apologize. Problem is, some people act like it will kill them to admit and/or verbally acknowledge that they were wrong.

Sometimes an apology is all someone needs. Sometimes the words "I'm sorry" is good enough, not b/c it'll change/fix things, but moreso b/c it's a way to leave the situation on respectful terms.
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@SweetLibra: VERY TRUE!

I agree with you about the closure thing. Sometimes just knowing that you're free as a whole is enough closure, ya know?
But her? She's 1 of those people that likes to verbally exhaust all options before she finally gives up. She's been like that in all her other relationship. When I asked her why it means so much for a guy to verbally say it, it's b/c she's 1 of those people that would atleast like to leave the situation with some level of respect for the guy. Almost like it validates her worth if a guy can drop his pride for 1 sec & finally apologize, even if she doesn't plan on going back to him.

And oh the joy of red flags! Isn't it awesome how there's almost ALWAYS 99% of the time some kind of hidden clue or red flag there, that had you really paid attention, you would've saw from the beginning?! Hindsight 20/20 is a MF!

But like you said, there's alot of dirty dogs in this world. However, there's alot of very bitter & pessimistic women too. The kinds of women that ruin every potential relationship they have b/c they go looking for trouble, never take a guy's word for it & don't trust anybody (not even themselves)! These kinds of women don't ever realize that sometimes it's not what it looks like; sometimes the guy really WAS telling the truth. Then there's the complete opposite: the woman who goes to the extreme in overlooking potential clues.

I guess the key is in finding that balance. Not being so pessimistic so that guys won't feel they're damned if they do/damned if they don't BUT then again not being so trusting/naive or having your head so far up into the clouds that your emotions end up defying or ignoring logic mixed with a little bit of intuition

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She texted him saying, "If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."




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P-Angel, STOP talking. Here you go again trying to turn this into a "roasting session" about me. Everything else you've had to say got ignored b/c it's obvious that you didn't come to this post to help, but moreso to hate, single me out & target me once AGAIN. Damn, I didn't realize your obsession with me was THAT deep! (sigh)

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What?! She's cheating on me with you, krys? SMH. Thought I was her only crush.
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She texted him saying, "If there's 1 thing I don't appreciate or put up with, it's someone who lies to me. Thanx for wasting my time. Good luck in your dating quest to find someone (preferrably the woman you're truly in love with) & God bless."




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P-Angel, STOP talking. Here you go again trying to turn this into a "roasting session" about me. Everything else you've had to say got ignored b/c it's obvious that you didn't come to this post to help, but moreso to hate, single me out & target me once AGAIN. Damn, I didn't realize your obsession with me was THAT deep! (sigh)



What?! She's cheating on me with you, krys? SMH. Thought I was her only crush.
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What's the big F'ing deal?! I thought you liked 3-somes?! =P