VirgoVixxxen
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When guys flirt and then go on the offensive
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Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Only serious answers please or don't even bother entering the thread.
Thank You.
You should have made that the thread title. By the time I read it, it was too late.
I think you mean go on the DE-fensive? the act of flirting would be on the offensive, meaning "in action". Anyways, to answer your question, I think it's simply because FLIRTING IS FUN. The same reason guys still like to check out women even when they're married, it let's us know we're still alive. I wouldn't automatically assume it's because of an ego boost,but maybe - in which case who are they hurting? Flirting just for fun happens all the time and nobody gets hurt. Its when you cross the line when flirting becomes an issue.
But if they are flirting only to turn their backs, i think you answered your own question when you said you weren't flirting back. So after they flirt and see its not going anywhere, why continue?
Signed a fellow Virgo (who loves to flirt) 🙂
But if they are flirting only to turn their backs, i think you answered your own question when you said you weren't flirting back. So after they flirt and see its not going anywhere, why continue?
Signed a fellow Virgo (who loves to flirt) 🙂
What do you mean by "then go on the offensive"?
I flirt all the time... or so I have been told. I almost never flirt intentionally. I do listen when I talk to people though, that confuses a lot of them. I'm also friendly and funny.
What do you call flirting?
I flirt all the time... or so I have been told. I almost never flirt intentionally. I do listen when I talk to people though, that confuses a lot of them. I'm also friendly and funny.
What do you call flirting?
Posted by LibraSidPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Only serious answers please or don't even bother entering the thread.
Thank You.
You should have made that the thread title. By the time I read it, it was too late.click to expand
LOL. Clever guy.
Posted by Jcolli40
I think you mean go on the DE-fensive? the act of flirting would be on the offensive, meaning "in action". Anyways, to answer your question, I think it's simply because FLIRTING IS FUN. The same reason guys still like to check out women even when they're married, it let's us know we're still alive. I wouldn't automatically assume it's because of an ego boost,but maybe - in which case who are they hurting? Flirting just for fun happens all the time and nobody gets hurt. Its when you cross the line when flirting becomes an issue.
But if they are flirting only to turn their backs, i think you answered your own question when you said you weren't flirting back. So after they flirt and see its not going anywhere, why continue?
Signed a fellow Virgo (who loves to flirt) 🙂
Oh please excuse me. I'm battling a head cold and an on-coming fever. Yikes. 😉 Here at work and wanted to pass the time with this question.
I'm feeling so terrible right now I'm going to take an advil and will come back with responses. Pray for me.
Posted by LibraSid
What do you mean by "then go on the offensive"?
I flirt all the time... or so I have been told. I almost never flirt intentionally. I do listen when I talk to people though, that confuses a lot of them. I'm also friendly and funny.
What do you call flirting?
I'll be back LS. I feel awful. *groans*
Posted by Jcolli40
I think you mean go on the DE-fensive? the act of flirting would be on the offensive, meaning "in action". Anyways, to answer your question, I think it's simply because FLIRTING IS FUN. The same reason guys still like to check out women even when they're married, it let's us know we're still alive. I wouldn't automatically assume it's because of an ego boost,but maybe - in which case who are they hurting? Flirting just for fun happens all the time and nobody gets hurt. Its when you cross the line when flirting becomes an issue.
But if they are flirting only to turn their backs, i think you answered your own question when you said you weren't flirting back. So after they flirt and see its not going anywhere, why continue?
Signed a fellow Virgo (who loves to flirt) 🙂
Ok, back.
Home now - had my meds, soup, and got the Puffs Plus balled in hand.
Jcollio40,
You are right. It's defensive, not offensive. My bad. I was feeling so awful, barely thought I would make it home without passing out - HALLELUJAH - AMEN - Jesus is still on the throne. 😉
Flirting is fun for others but not for me. No offense to anyone but I've always found flirting to be quite superficial (and I have heard many other Virgos say this as well) and since I have never really done it, I guess that might explain my not picking up on it when it's done to me?
Maybe not always but you don't think that sometimes people flirt to boost their egos? To feel like they've still got it? In some instances especially married folk?
I always say flirting is a dangerous game (depending on the situation of course) and 'plants seeds of desire'. We see it all the time...no? Sometimes someone might 'harmlessly' flirt with another with no intention to take it any further but the person on the other side is thinking quite differently and may even have started to 'catch feelings' only to discover that the other person doesn't have a genuine interest in having a romantic relationship with them.
As a side note: Are you new? I don't see you on the Virgo board much.
Posted by LibraSid
What do you mean by "then go on the offensive"?
I flirt all the time... or so I have been told. I almost never flirt intentionally. I do listen when I talk to people though, that confuses a lot of them. I'm also friendly and funny.
What do you call flirting?
It was the fever. Sorry, I meant DEFENSIVE.
A Leeb that flirts...and all the time? PREPOSTEROUS!!!!! 😉
What do I call flirting? Well now, that's a really good question...err...uh...now 'flirting' can be many different things depending on the person so for me there would probably be some smiling involved, a witty comment, or some type of teasing...is that what you meant?
Posted by PurrHiss
If you're talking about street harassment, I think they just want a reaction, even if it's you yelling at them. I do the same thing (ignore). Don't even look at them. Pretend you're deaf & keep walking.
Hey Hissy!
No, not street harassment (like you, I always ignore those fools 🙂). More like harassment at work (not in the truest sense of the word) or in a sphere of people you know as in one of your social groups. People who just won't stop with the flirting when CLEARLY you are not flirting back, but the moment you give them casual conversation or throw them a bone, then suddenly you are not that important to them anymore. LOL. Am I making myself clear here? In other words, do people flirt with others just to get them to talk to them (even if casually) and give them some sort of attention?
Posted by 69virgo
LOL, you sick.
As a reformed 'bad boy' I'm sure you sent a-plenty of women into a tizzy with all that flirt'n in your 'hay day'.
I'm clearly out of my league here 69. Just don't like to do it.
Anyways, I'm playing your theme song:
"Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you...a nay na nay na naaay, a nay na nay na nay...." 🙂
Posted by PurrHiss
Awww, poor Vix. Feel better soon. 😢
Awwww....thank you Hissy. I feel much better now that I've taken some drugs. 😉 Wanted to make it a pizza & cold glass of wine night but apparently my body had other plans for me. Boring ass soup. 😉
Vixxxen,
Yes i'm fairly new here, thanks for noticing *wink wink big cheesy smile and a pinch* haha
After reading more about what you think flirting is and your particular situation, i think you may walk a fine line between people that like teasing you versus flirting.
Yes i'm fairly new here, thanks for noticing *wink wink big cheesy smile and a pinch* haha
After reading more about what you think flirting is and your particular situation, i think you may walk a fine line between people that like teasing you versus flirting.
Posted by PurrHiss
*Meat Loaf voice* "I MADE THAT MOTHERFUCKING SOUP!" j/k 😛
AHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! YOU CRAZY!
Posted by Jcolli40
Vixxxen,
Yes i'm fairly new here, thanks for noticing *wink wink big cheesy smile and a pinch* haha
After reading more about what you think flirting is and your particular situation, i think you may walk a fine line between people that like teasing you versus flirting.
KEWL! One more Virgo to add to the bunch! Start a thread introducing yourself on the Virgo board...eh? We'll show you love. 😉
Now - teasing? Well perhaps you're right. How did you gather that?
I know my 'brand' and in some instances I'm treated like a sister-pal...it's my natural diffidence, air of innocence, and naievety I suspect.
Tell me, what makes you tease a girl?
Some guys get defensive if they flirt & get shot down/rejected b/c they are insecure & cannot handle rejection.
Other guys get defensive if they don't get the response they wanted b/c their original goal to get a good response AND ego boost, was shot down the drain.
I asked my male friend this once. He told me that sometimes he'll purposely overly-flirt or say some of the craziest things to women simply b/c he can. It's not that he means any of what he's saying or that he truly wants the girls he's flirting with. If anything, he's more surprised & amazed at how many women will fall for anything! He may get rejected by 5 out of 10 girls that he says a cheesy line to, but those other 5 girls may really fall for it & have that easy look on their face...once a guy knows that you've fallen for it, he now figures that he may be able to take advantage of you in some way. This is not fair to the ladies, but then again it's not a man's fault either that some women take some of the weakest bait!
In a nutshell, I think men like this do it simply b/c they can.
Other guys get defensive if they don't get the response they wanted b/c their original goal to get a good response AND ego boost, was shot down the drain.
I asked my male friend this once. He told me that sometimes he'll purposely overly-flirt or say some of the craziest things to women simply b/c he can. It's not that he means any of what he's saying or that he truly wants the girls he's flirting with. If anything, he's more surprised & amazed at how many women will fall for anything! He may get rejected by 5 out of 10 girls that he says a cheesy line to, but those other 5 girls may really fall for it & have that easy look on their face...once a guy knows that you've fallen for it, he now figures that he may be able to take advantage of you in some way. This is not fair to the ladies, but then again it's not a man's fault either that some women take some of the weakest bait!
In a nutshell, I think men like this do it simply b/c they can.
they may see you as a challenge because you're more aloof than other women they've encountered.
then once you flirt back, they're no longer intrigued or think your aloofness was a ploy.
they may simply enjoy making you uncomfortable.
then when they see you're no longer uncomfortable, it's no longer fun.
who knows.
then once you flirt back, they're no longer intrigued or think your aloofness was a ploy.
they may simply enjoy making you uncomfortable.
then when they see you're no longer uncomfortable, it's no longer fun.
who knows.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by Jcolli40
Vixxxen,
Yes i'm fairly new here, thanks for noticing *wink wink big cheesy smile and a pinch* haha
After reading more about what you think flirting is and your particular situation, i think you may walk a fine line between people that like teasing you versus flirting.
KEWL! One more Virgo to add to the bunch! Start a thread introducing yourself on the Virgo board...eh? We'll show you love. 😉
Now - teasing? Well perhaps you're right. How did you gather that?
I know my 'brand' and in some instances I'm treated like a sister-pal...it's my natural diffidence, air of innocence, and naievety I suspect.
Tell me, what makes you tease a girl?click to expand
To be honest i'm not sure exactly how to put it into words. I would say teasing is more like saying something just to get a reaction, while flirting, on the other hand, has more sexual undertones to it. Like i would tease a coworker simply because i wouldn't want it to go past the superficial stage, since i'm a virgo and take work too seriously, lol. How did i gather that? My scorpio moon 😉
I'll introduce myself on the board, but you gotta promise me you'll be the first responder!
It's all part of the PUA (Pick Up Artist) game....You can curse or thank Mystery for teaching assclowns how to be players LOL
Posted by krysrenee7
Some guys get defensive if they flirt & get shot down/rejected b/c they are insecure & cannot handle rejection.
Other guys get defensive if they don't get the response they wanted b/c their original goal to get a good response AND ego boost, was shot down the drain.
I asked my male friend this once. He told me that sometimes he'll purposely overly-flirt or say some of the craziest things to women simply b/c he can. It's not that he means any of what he's saying or that he truly wants the girls he's flirting with. If anything, he's more surprised & amazed at how many women will fall for anything! He may get rejected by 5 out of 10 girls that he says a cheesy line to, but those other 5 girls may really fall for it & have that easy look on their face...once a guy knows that you've fallen for it, he now figures that he may be able to take advantage of you in some way. This is not fair to the ladies, but then again it's not a man's fault either that some women take some of the weakest bait!
In a nutshell, I think men like this do it simply b/c they can.
Hey KrysR. Thanks for chiming in. It's great to have your input because this seems to be an area of expertise for you.
What you've said makes total sense and I can completely understand a guy going on the defense if he genuinely likes a woman but is not sure about her interest in him, however, for those who do it just for kicks, I can't help feeling as though there is something kind of cruel and irresponsible about it.
Posted by Lena282
I wouldn't take any kind of flirting seriously, guys do that all the time it's just playing around.
Hope you're feeing better!! There's been a few nasty bugs around.
Hey Lena!
Fuckers. 😉
Next time a guy flirts with me and I suspect he's playing games best believe I'm gonna let him know I'm onto him and then invite him to get lost. 😉
On another note, I have been Advil'n it up! The good lord knows I didn't want to have to go another day eating some boring ass soup! Shit!
Posted by trifles light as air*
they may see you as a challenge because you're more aloof than other women they've encountered.
then once you flirt back, they're no longer intrigued or think your aloofness was a ploy.
they may simply enjoy making you uncomfortable.
then when they see you're no longer uncomfortable, it's no longer fun.
who knows.
Sounds like a dead-on assessment to me.
Meh, my sister always tells me "well, as long as you're not sleeping with the fools".
Posted by QLIbraMalePosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by QLIbraMale
flirting and rejection go hand in hand lol.
Personal experience QLM?
somewhat just like a coin sometimes flirting get lucky other times your flirting becomes a bad penny rejection arises lol.click to expand
You ain't neva lied, and thank God I don't flirt. 😉
Posted by Jcolli40Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by Jcolli40
Vixxxen,
Yes i'm fairly new here, thanks for noticing *wink wink big cheesy smile and a pinch* haha
After reading more about what you think flirting is and your particular situation, i think you may walk a fine line between people that like teasing you versus flirting.
KEWL! One more Virgo to add to the bunch! Start a thread introducing yourself on the Virgo board...eh? We'll show you love. 😉
Now - teasing? Well perhaps you're right. How did you gather that?
I know my 'brand' and in some instances I'm treated like a sister-pal...it's my natural diffidence, air of innocence, and naievety I suspect.
Tell me, what makes you tease a girl?
To be honest i'm not sure exactly how to put it into words. I would say teasing is more like saying something just to get a reaction, while flirting, on the other hand, has more sexual undertones to it. Like i would tease a coworker simply because i wouldn't want it to go past the superficial stage, since i'm a virgo and take work too seriously, lol. How did i gather that? My scorpio moon 😉
I'll introduce myself on the board, but you gotta promise me you'll be the first responder!click to expand
I got you.
Teasing can SOMETIMES be a form of flirting. In and of itself it's a condescending put-down, or a sugar-coated diss, and is often times utilized as a 'tool' to define boundaries or 'status' in relationships. There are many different reasons teasing can be employed.
Co-sign on being a Virgo and taking work too seriously.
Earth & Water sun/moon combos are pretty great.
One more question please? I know it's so high school but I gotta ask: If you leaned in toward a woman while talking to her all the while biting your bottom lip lustfully? A sign of lusty attraction? Does that mean you want to kiss her?
As I said earlier, I'm so lost when it comes to this stuff...LOL!
Yes, if you tell me when you plan to introduce yourself, I'll make sure to be around so I can be the first responder. 😉 No worries, the Virgs are pretty cool.
Posted by tiki33
It's all part of the PUA (Pick Up Artist) game....You can curse or thank Mystery for teaching assclowns how to be players LOL
I see!
Wow, you guys are so helpful. It's like these 'playas' have made an art of of this shizz. Geez.
I'd like to know how to reverse the game on these as you so beautifully call it - "assclowns". *EVIL GRIN*
Yeah i guess it could be viewed that way, but from a purely playful point of perception, teasing isn't necessarily insulting, depends on the recipient i suppose.
Why do you think are earth and water combos great?
As far as the lip thing i would say yes. Although i've never done it (more of a female thing). But it could also be in anticipation in waiting to see if something you said broke through the other person's boundaries.
Also, if i'm not mistaken i'd say you just flirted with me a little, tee hee hee
Why do you think are earth and water combos great?
As far as the lip thing i would say yes. Although i've never done it (more of a female thing). But it could also be in anticipation in waiting to see if something you said broke through the other person's boundaries.
Also, if i'm not mistaken i'd say you just flirted with me a little, tee hee hee
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by tiki33
It's all part of the PUA (Pick Up Artist) game....You can curse or thank Mystery for teaching assclowns how to be players LOL
I see!
Wow, you guys are so helpful. It's like these 'playas' have made an art of of this shizz. Geez.
I'd like to know how to reverse the game on these as you so beautifully call it - "assclowns". *EVIL GRIN*click to expand
Well you can call him out that typically STOPS him dead in his tracks, either embarrasses him or throws him off balance and he will stop being a clown around you and talk to you straight, some slump off and sulk somewhere in private LOL, just all depends on your delivery.
Their are female pick up artist, they aren't very liked in a male dominated world of PUA's but you can do searches and read up on there idea's how to deal with men that use PUA patterns on women, very interesting and may give you some tips on how to deal with men that use the push/pull technique.
Google push/pull and you will notice a lot of info on this technique, many men use it, women naturally use it on men and so the men found how effective it was and flipped it back on women and started using it and it works LOL
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LibraSid
What do you mean by "then go on the offensive"?
I flirt all the time... or so I have been told. I almost never flirt intentionally. I do listen when I talk to people though, that confuses a lot of them. I'm also friendly and funny.
What do you call flirting?
It was the fever. Sorry, I meant DEFENSIVE.
A Leeb that flirts...and all the time? PREPOSTEROUS!!!!! 😉
What do I call flirting? Well now, that's a really good question...err...uh...now 'flirting' can be many different things depending on the person so for me there would probably be some smiling involved, a witty comment, or some type of teasing...is that what you meant?click to expand
I smile all the time, I am a happy person. I tease people about a lot of stuff, I think most people take things way too seriously. I like to make light of things and show that it's okay to laugh at yourself (and anyone else around). And wit... that's like a drug to me. I love a sharp mind. Those three things are just part of how I communicate with everyone.
Posted by Jcolli40
Yeah i guess it could be viewed that way, but from a purely playful point of perception, teasing isn't necessarily insulting, depends on the recipient i suppose.
Why do you think are earth and water combos great?
As far as the lip thing i would say yes. Although i've never done it (more of a female thing). But it could also be in anticipation in waiting to see if something you said broke through the other person's boundaries.
Also, if i'm not mistaken i'd say you just flirted with me a little, tee hee hee
Well specifically a Virgo/water combo or vice versa (a water/virgo combo) because I think it endows the person with a greater sense of perception.
More of a female thing? I've seen more guys do that than women. Twirling of the hair. Now I've seen tons of females do that.
Me? Flirt? Well ok, I SOMETIMES do a tad bit of flirting on dxp but that's only because I know I'll never see any of you guys in person. Ha! 😉
Posted by tiki33Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by tiki33
It's all part of the PUA (Pick Up Artist) game....You can curse or thank Mystery for teaching assclowns how to be players LOL
I see!
Wow, you guys are so helpful. It's like these 'playas' have made an art of of this shizz. Geez.
I'd like to know how to reverse the game on these as you so beautifully call it - "assclowns". *EVIL GRIN*
Well you can call him out that typically STOPS him dead in his tracks, either embarrasses him or throws him off balance and he will stop being a clown around you and talk to you straight, some slump off and sulk somewhere in private LOL, just all depends on your delivery.
Their are female pick up artist, they aren't very liked in a male dominated world of PUA's but you can do searches and read up on there idea's how to deal with men that use PUA patterns on women, very interesting and may give you some tips on how to deal with men that use the push/pull technique.
Google push/pull and you will notice a lot of info on this technique, many men use it, women naturally use it on men and so the men found how effective it was and flipped it back on women and started using it and it works LOLclick to expand
Thanks Tiki!
I've always liked your advice so you know I'm get'n ready to google that shit. LOL.
I did that once to a guy and oddly enough he tried to punish the shit outta me (he was a Cancer). He started up with the flirting and the games and once I read him straight, that was it for my ass. 😉 I don't know if I hurt his pride or what but I guess I did something right (or in his case - wrong) because ever since that he had it in for me. He did sulk and slump off too! LOL! I have to admit my delivery was...err...well...very...uh...Virgo 😉, and to a Cancer that shit can be like salt in a wound. Ever had one mad at you? Oh they're vicious. Don't ever cross one. Thing is, Virgos don't like nonsense. Period. Mean what you say and say what you mean and it's all good. Cancers have a roundabout way of doing things and that just confuses the shit out of us. People should know by now that we're just a bunch of logical robots who can only see things in grey. Shit!
Posted by LibraSidPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LibraSid
What do you mean by "then go on the offensive"?
I flirt all the time... or so I have been told. I almost never flirt intentionally. I do listen when I talk to people though, that confuses a lot of them. I'm also friendly and funny.
What do you call flirting?
It was the fever. Sorry, I meant DEFENSIVE.
A Leeb that flirts...and all the time? PREPOSTEROUS!!!!! 😉
What do I call flirting? Well now, that's a really good question...err...uh...now 'flirting' can be many different things depending on the person so for me there would probably be some smiling involved, a witty comment, or some type of teasing...is that what you meant?
I smile all the time, I am a happy person. I tease people about a lot of stuff, I think most people take things way too seriously. I like to make light of things and show that it's okay to laugh at yourself (and anyone else around). And wit... that's like a drug to me. I love a sharp mind. Those three things are just part of how I communicate with everyone.click to expand
Oh I completely get you. I was joking about the Leeb thing. All of the Leebs I know are very flirty but in a very light, and sort of harmless way. It's your natural charisma and exquisite social graces. My ex-Leeb friend could literally walk through a room and have everyone staring at her in awe. I admired that about her because she didn't even have to try. Like you, she was a very happy person and just wanted to make everyone feel good, and she was extremely big on being fair and just.
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
One more question please? I know it's so high school but I gotta ask: If you leaned in toward a woman while talking to her all the while biting your bottom lip lustfully? A sign of lusty attraction? Does that mean you want to kiss her?
As I said earlier, I'm so lost when it comes to this stuff...LOL!
Yes, if you tell me when you plan to introduce yourself, I'll make sure to be around so I can be the first responder. 😉 No worries, the Virgs are pretty cool.
Basically here's my take on the entire subject at hand.
Answering the above quote:
It depends but my advice is seek men who leave no doubt about their intentions of kissing you.
Any of the 12 signs (females), like it or not want a MAN not a boy. Maybe some like em young, and maybe want to be "in control" but no woman I've met gets all hot and bothered over someone they have to play hollywood director with.
I always use my car analogy in these situations. (because everyone knows what a car is and can relate)If a woman was shopping for a car, she is either going to get a good deal or get ripped off. Now, if she gets gouged, she isn't going to run to her girlfriends and brag on how ripped off she got. If she got a deal, she'd be more than glad to share that info with her friends. Look at the man in the same way. You want (typically women do) a man that you feel you're getting a good value. Not having the ability to handle simple cues and language of a woman isn't going to instill confidence in the woman she isn't investing in a lemon. If a guy seems timid, it's not a deal breaker I know but just make sure before you get into anything permanent or serious, you make sure that's not the only "red flag" in that area. Insecure or inexperienced men can be just as painful as a "playa"....
Now with the main quesiton:
Flirting is different for everyone, men and women.. One size certainly doesn't fit all.
I'd say as a rule of thumb, people who are into games are into the game. Not the prize. Keep this in mind.
I've been told by some women who are OBVIOUSLY frustrated with my "lack of game" that my game is that I have no game. I simply reply "Look, that's your viewpoint through a player's perspective. To me, who is TRULY sincere and doesn't need to play any game to make a woman happy or interested, I like the woman to fall in love with ME not my "game"..."Trust me I just don't operate that way, but you'll think that's my game because that's how you see everything."
So I hope I am not adding confusion but my point is this, it's not just him, it's you too. How one person plugs into your personality is different than another woman's would be.. so different strokes sort of thing...
Basically I break it down to these essentials...
1)Flirts who mean it. I say "is there any other kind?" but seriously by "mean it", I am suggesting they are flirting with a purpose. What that purpose is varies. Break the ice, get some play, get a #, test the waters, etc. But this is the "Genuine Flirter"
2)Flirts who game. This is what I will never do. It's probably what made you say "I don't flirt". I bet dollars to dougnuts if you're into a guy enough YOU DO, but you do NOT in this way I speak of on #2...
Flirts who game, well basically flirting to them is no different than a car horn on a car... It has a completely different meaning to them. To them it's a LANGUAGE. It's posturing, it's all about one liners and how long can you hang with me??
This is their way of kicking the tires to see what you're made of. HOW does she handle THIS line? What's her comeback...etc. Pause, lack of acception and return volley, non-flirtatious responses.. big turn-offs to these types.
This is the "Shallow Flirter"
So your job is to identify the person flirting. Are they #1 or #2. If #2 from what you've put of yourself on here I'd just avoid altogether. If #1 then nature will take it's course... So that's the only work you have cut out, learning and knowing the difference... I can tell you that if it's cheesy or disgenuine, chances are they are #2 but not always.
Some people are just socially awkward or challenged but are good catches.
Hope I've added something for you..
Flirting is different for everyone, men and women.. One size certainly doesn't fit all.
I'd say as a rule of thumb, people who are into games are into the game. Not the prize. Keep this in mind.
I've been told by some women who are OBVIOUSLY frustrated with my "lack of game" that my game is that I have no game. I simply reply "Look, that's your viewpoint through a player's perspective. To me, who is TRULY sincere and doesn't need to play any game to make a woman happy or interested, I like the woman to fall in love with ME not my "game"..."Trust me I just don't operate that way, but you'll think that's my game because that's how you see everything."
So I hope I am not adding confusion but my point is this, it's not just him, it's you too. How one person plugs into your personality is different than another woman's would be.. so different strokes sort of thing...
Basically I break it down to these essentials...
1)Flirts who mean it. I say "is there any other kind?" but seriously by "mean it", I am suggesting they are flirting with a purpose. What that purpose is varies. Break the ice, get some play, get a #, test the waters, etc. But this is the "Genuine Flirter"
2)Flirts who game. This is what I will never do. It's probably what made you say "I don't flirt". I bet dollars to dougnuts if you're into a guy enough YOU DO, but you do NOT in this way I speak of on #2...
Flirts who game, well basically flirting to them is no different than a car horn on a car... It has a completely different meaning to them. To them it's a LANGUAGE. It's posturing, it's all about one liners and how long can you hang with me??
This is their way of kicking the tires to see what you're made of. HOW does she handle THIS line? What's her comeback...etc. Pause, lack of acception and return volley, non-flirtatious responses.. big turn-offs to these types.
This is the "Shallow Flirter"
So your job is to identify the person flirting. Are they #1 or #2. If #2 from what you've put of yourself on here I'd just avoid altogether. If #1 then nature will take it's course... So that's the only work you have cut out, learning and knowing the difference... I can tell you that if it's cheesy or disgenuine, chances are they are #2 but not always.
Some people are just socially awkward or challenged but are good catches.
Hope I've added something for you..
Agreed, but it does to those on the game grid..
If you truly want to make sense of it, the flirt is to get you engaged, get your attention, get you to participate.
Then the rejection is part test/part sales.
Familiar with Sandler? It's a very popular sales training school. Anyhow one of their methods of closing a sale is the "porcupine" method. (I can explain that name if you ask) It's a game of keep-away or hot potato.
Basically it would go "You don't want this car, it's too expensive for you. Let's look at this hatch-back yugo over here"
That's what the rejection represents. "I don't want you afterall, you can't like me or hit on me.. you don't have what it takes" it's to encite the vanity portion of the subject so they retaliate "Oh, the HELL I am going to just let you walk home alone! you WILL sleep with me"
Personally I think it's VERY sophmoric and if you apply some virgo logic circuitry to it..
So let's say it DOES actually work... Personally I'd not be interested in the type of women this tactic would work on...
They are probably all the rave of a HS babysitter... NO THANKS.
If you truly want to make sense of it, the flirt is to get you engaged, get your attention, get you to participate.
Then the rejection is part test/part sales.
Familiar with Sandler? It's a very popular sales training school. Anyhow one of their methods of closing a sale is the "porcupine" method. (I can explain that name if you ask) It's a game of keep-away or hot potato.
Basically it would go "You don't want this car, it's too expensive for you. Let's look at this hatch-back yugo over here"
That's what the rejection represents. "I don't want you afterall, you can't like me or hit on me.. you don't have what it takes" it's to encite the vanity portion of the subject so they retaliate "Oh, the HELL I am going to just let you walk home alone! you WILL sleep with me"
Personally I think it's VERY sophmoric and if you apply some virgo logic circuitry to it..
So let's say it DOES actually work... Personally I'd not be interested in the type of women this tactic would work on...
They are probably all the rave of a HS babysitter... NO THANKS.
$ h1tes..Sorry for double post.. no dang edit button..
I forgot to mention, the arseclowns (well put btw! haha) I highly question their ansillary qualities and skills.
Usually these superficial types are severely lacking in the important areas. I am convinced if you added up all these people they are either going to be a sociopath or they are only able to love money.. I know that's cruel but it fits the bill for the descriptions across the board... It's one thing to like a little game/play and get into the whole courting thing but to make that the only thing or to completely revolve around that or extend the whole tention game WAY beyond it's intended duration... that's azzclown zone to me..
I forgot to mention, the arseclowns (well put btw! haha) I highly question their ansillary qualities and skills.
Usually these superficial types are severely lacking in the important areas. I am convinced if you added up all these people they are either going to be a sociopath or they are only able to love money.. I know that's cruel but it fits the bill for the descriptions across the board... It's one thing to like a little game/play and get into the whole courting thing but to make that the only thing or to completely revolve around that or extend the whole tention game WAY beyond it's intended duration... that's azzclown zone to me..
It's like the difference between Sean Connery as James Bond and Mike Meyers as Austin Powers..
(I know he's hysterical, but the flavor in terms of serious romance— who'd win ladies??)
Ok, I've cut off my hands so I can't post anymore!
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(I know he's hysterical, but the flavor in terms of serious romance— who'd win ladies??)
Ok, I've cut off my hands so I can't post anymore!
See I cnt ty ype,anayhm5roe
Posted by kevinflynnPosted by VirgoVixxxen
One more question please? I know it's so high school but I gotta ask: If you leaned in toward a woman while talking to her all the while biting your bottom lip lustfully? A sign of lusty attraction? Does that mean you want to kiss her?
As I said earlier, I'm so lost when it comes to this stuff...LOL!
Yes, if you tell me when you plan to introduce yourself, I'll make sure to be around so I can be the first responder. 😉 No worries, the Virgs are pretty cool.
Basically here's my take on the entire subject at hand.
Answering the above quote:
It depends but my advice is seek men who leave no doubt about their intentions of kissing you.
Any of the 12 signs (females), like it or not want a MAN not a boy. Maybe some like em young, and maybe want to be "in control" but no woman I've met gets all hot and bothered over someone they have to play hollywood director with.
I always use my car analogy in these situations. (because everyone knows what a car is and can relate)If a woman was shopping for a car, she is either going to get a good deal or get ripped off. Now, if she gets gouged, she isn't going to run to her girlfriends and brag on how ripped off she got. If she got a deal, she'd be more than glad to share that info with her friends. Look at the man in the same way. You want (typically women do) a man that you feel you're getting a good value. Not having the ability to handle simple cues and language of a woman isn't going to instill confidence in the woman she isn't investing in a lemon. If a guy seems timid, it's not a deal breaker I know but just make sure before you get into anything permanent or serious, you make sure that's not the only "red flag" in that area. Insecure or inexperienced men can be just as painful as a "playa"....
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Thanks Kev! (You make a damn good addition to the Virgo team 😉)
I never really thought about it like this but I will keep it all in mind. Very good advice here.
Yes, it gets kind of tricky trying to decipher the insecure inexperienced gent from the playa. Especially if you are quite inexperienced yourself. That can make the task more daunting!
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
.. I've always found flirting to be quite superficial ...and since I have never really done it, I guess that might explain my not picking up on it when it's done to me?
This thread exists, so you apparantly picked up on getting attention.
so, how long is it going to take you to realize you're a hypocrite?
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Why do they run you down/harass you & parade around in front of you to get your attention only just to turn around and ignore your ass? LMAO.
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Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Especially if the girl isn't showing any interest or giving anything back. Self-centered, egotistical, narcissistic, Jerks? Guys with low self-esteem who just want to boost their egos?
When guys flirt with me it usually takes 24 to 48 hours for me to process it, and even after I do, I still don't return the favor. LOL.
Favor?
Not only do you notice, you make a thread in here to show everyone how much you get hit on, and then 'act' like you don't care for the attention, when this whole thread screams .. look at me.
For the fact that you call it a favor ... clearly shows you like to game.
Posted by kevinflynn
Basically I break it down to these essentials...
1)Flirts who mean it. I say "is there any other kind?" but seriously by "mean it", I am suggesting they are flirting with a purpose. What that purpose is varies. Break the ice, get some play, get a #, test the waters, etc. But this is the "Genuine Flirter"
2)Flirts who game. This is what I will never do. It's probably what made you say "I don't flirt". I bet dollars to dougnuts if you're into a guy enough YOU DO, but you do NOT in this way I speak of on #2...
Flirts who game, well basically flirting to them is no different than a car horn on a car... It has a completely different meaning to them. To them it's a LANGUAGE. It's posturing, it's all about one liners and how long can you hang with me??
This is their way of kicking the tires to see what you're made of. HOW does she handle THIS line? What's her comeback...etc. Pause, lack of acception and return volley, non-flirtatious responses.. big turn-offs to these types.
This is the "Shallow Flirter"
So your job is to identify the person flirting. Are they #1 or #2. If #2 from what you've put of yourself on here I'd just avoid altogether. If #1 then nature will take it's course... So that's the only work you have cut out, learning and knowing the difference... I can tell you that if it's cheesy or disgenuine, chances are they are #2 but not always.
Some people are just socially awkward or challenged but are good catches.
Hope I've added something for you..
Are you kidding me? You've helped a ton!
Yes, and as I mentioned in my previous post, if you are a little less experienced yourself, the 'job' of figuring out who's real from who's fake can be quite...well...a job (and even highly confusing to an overanalyzing Virgo 😉).
Definitley looking for the #1's and "allowing nature to take its course" I would think requires some sort of game on the flirtees part too...no? I would think so since the flirter can't do it all alone. Oh and when I say 'game' all I really mean is genuine reciprocation and interaction. 😉
Posted by kevinflynn
Agreed, but it does to those on the game grid..
If you truly want to make sense of it, the flirt is to get you engaged, get your attention, get you to participate.
Then the rejection is part test/part sales.
Familiar with Sandler? It's a very popular sales training school. Anyhow one of their methods of closing a sale is the "porcupine" method. (I can explain that name if you ask) It's a game of keep-away or hot potato.
Basically it would go "You don't want this car, it's too expensive for you. Let's look at this hatch-back yugo over here"
That's what the rejection represents. "I don't want you afterall, you can't like me or hit on me.. you don't have what it takes" it's to encite the vanity portion of the subject so they retaliate "Oh, the HELL I am going to just let you walk home alone! you WILL sleep with me"
Personally I think it's VERY sophmoric and if you apply some virgo logic circuitry to it..
So let's say it DOES actually work... Personally I'd not be interested in the type of women this tactic would work on...
They are probably all the rave of a HS babysitter... NO THANKS.
Agreed. I think the tactic is quite sleazy and low-grade.
I took Tiki's advice (thanks girl!) and read up on the PUAs (Pick Up Artists). They've even got an entire school dedicated to this shit. I can completely understand a man or woman who may struggle with social situations/feeling akward from lack of self-esteem or low confidence and obtaining some form of life coaching to better themselves in that area but to flat out coach a man on how to get a woman into bed?
I'd rather a man come at me REAL (low self-esteem, little to no confidence, akwardness and all) than to deal with some playa ass scrub who just wants to use a smooth pick-up line to get me into bed. Losers.
Posted by P-AngelPosted by VirgoVixxxen
.. I've always found flirting to be quite superficial ...and since I have never really done it, I guess that might explain my not picking up on it when it's done to me?
This thread exists, so you apparantly picked up on getting attention.
so, how long is it going to take you to realize you're a hypocrite?
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Why do they run you down/harass you & parade around in front of you to get your attention only just to turn around and ignore your ass? LMAO.
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Boy do you reach. I actually stated that I DO pick up on it but not necessarily right away. It usually takes me a bit of time because I'm not used to flirting myself (hence my little 28-48 hours joke).
Posted by P-AngelPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Especially if the girl isn't showing any interest or giving anything back. Self-centered, egotistical, narcissistic, Jerks? Guys with low self-esteem who just want to boost their egos?
When guys flirt with me it usually takes 24 to 48 hours for me to process it, and even after I do, I still don't return the favor. LOL.
Favor?
Not only do you notice, you make a thread in here to show everyone how much you get hit on, and then 'act' like you don't care for the attention, when this whole thread screams .. look at me.
For the fact that you call it a favor ... clearly shows you like to game.click to expand
Sigh...as I recall, I can make a thread about whatever the hell I feel and for the record, this is not a 'look at me thread'. I had an honest question and wanted feedback. This is a question that's on the minds of many women, including friends of mine and for the record I DON'T GAME ANYONE. LMAO. WTF, nobody flirts with you P? I'm sure most of the women on dxp get flirted with on a daily basis...you? Someone sounds jealous. 😉
P-Angel get lost. You're just upset because I made the statement "what would she (P-Angel) do if DXP closed down today or tomorrow" in Kevin's thread on the V-board. So now you brought your ass in here to try and chastise me (just as you are doing to Kevin over in his thread right now as well for putting you in your place) but the shit is not gonna work so keep it mov'n. THANK YOU!
"P-Angel get lost. You're just upset because I made the statement "what would she (P-Angel) do if DXP closed down today or tomorrow" in Kevin's thread on the V-board. So now you brought your ass in here to try and chastise me (just as you are doing to Kevin over in his thread right now as well for putting you in your place) but the shit is not gonna work so keep it mov'n. THANK YOU!"
LMAO! Funny!
LMAO! Funny!
You know, virgo women (or at least I do) get "being nice" misinterpreted as flirting by men. I just had a guy swear to heaven that I wanted him. Does a smile and conversation qaulify as flirting? Geeeez. I sometimes don't want to talk to any man unless I am interested because when I do, he thinks that I like him.
Men who act all hostile after he is rejected by a woman are clearly insecure.
Men who act all hostile after he is rejected by a woman are clearly insecure.
Thanks PMG.
We're >here
We're >here
Virgos are insufferable with their egotistical arrogance .... instead of trying to process emotions faster than 48 hours, they take pride in being emotionally immature and are left with no other option except to think someone is doing them a favor.
^^^^Please STFU and get the hell out of my thread. THANK YOU!
I get so tired of people that don't realize that the virgo mind is a terrible thing to waste. They don't understand it and never will as long as they continue to hate without any valid reasoning behind it. Them being invidious is fogging their own minds.
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