I dislike how people say that Scorps are manipulative, just because they don't understand them. Or they say that Scorps are trying to control them. They're a lot of scorpio haters out here. Being with a scorpio is simple. Respect, honesty, and loyalty is all that is needed. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem. It's all or nothing. I Rarely see anything positive being mentioned with it related to scorpios.
Blah blah fucking blah!
When it's relating*

Posted by Noreallynow
I dislike how people say that Scorps are manipulative, just because they don't understand them. Or they say that Scorps are trying to control them. They're a lot of scorpio haters out here. Being with a scorpio is simple. Respect, honesty, and loyalty is all that is needed. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem. It's all or nothing. I Rarely see anything positive being mentioned with it related to scorpios.
Pretty simple isn't it?

Posted by tiziani
Being with a Scorpio is simple yes. Nevertheless Scorps are manipulative. I don't see that as a bad thing. If you like things to be black and white, quite simply live with it.
Manipulative = holding a really big mirror up
(some people don't like that)
Posted by tiziani
Being with a Scorpio is simple yes. Nevertheless Scorps are manipulative. I don't see that as a bad thing. If you like things to be black and white, quite simply live with it.
I don't manipulate anyone. To me, that's playing games. I don't play mind games.
I don't believe that being manipulative has anything to do with your sign. It's the person.
Now, If telling you the truth is being manipulative, then ok.
Posted by tiziani
Being with a Scorpio is simple yes. Nevertheless Scorps are manipulative. I don't see that as a bad thing. If you like things to be black and white, quite simply live with it.
Give me an example of an scorpio being manipulative?
Posted by Impulsv
I've never manipulated but then again don't know why people would see it as manipulation. Post like that rub me the wrong way " oh he's acting sad cuz we broke up. Manipulating to get back" tree trunk no manipulation. U fucken broke his heart what do u expect!!
I broke someone's heart?
Posted by tiziani
Noreallynow, being honest with you, any time you mention you and this guy I get very confused.
You mention a lot of details but I generally only clearly understand
1. What people want
2. What they're doing to get it
So to say "I don't have an inch of hate or dislike in my body for him" tells me nothing. Personally if I'd have disliked him immensely. And maybe then I would have wanted to get him and all thoughts of him out of my life asap.
Sending texts with just a dot on them is manipulative yes, or if you want to call it playing for attention, a reaction, trolling... that's how I see it. Is it very good manipulation? No.
I haven't spoken to him in two months. That was before it ended. He was talking shit to me. So, I backed off for days.
And I was searching for a reaction. He texted me first.
Wasnt*
Posted by tiziani
I just realised this is the part where Impulsv calls me a destroyer of assertive women lol
I don't think that speaking your mind destroys assertive woman. It only affects them if the things that you're saying is true. If what you saying doesn't make or break them, then it really doesn't matter.

Meh, I think manipulation, especially of the malicious kind, has more to do with a person's lack of character than it does with their signs. Every single person I know who has some truly nasty traits/habits...aka they're assholes...come from different signs and they've let all the negative traits rule their character and personality.
Posted by MoonArtist
Meh, I think manipulation, especially of the malicious kind, has more to do with a person's lack of character than it does with their signs. Every single person I know who has some truly nasty traits/habits...aka they're assholes...come from different signs and they've let all the negative traits rule their character and personality.
+1
Posted by WhatuPosted by NoreallynowPosted by MoonArtist
Meh, I think manipulation, especially of the malicious kind, has more to do with a person's lack of character than it does with their signs. Every single person I know who has some truly nasty traits/habits...aka they're assholes...come from different signs and they've let all the negative traits rule their character and personality.
+1
This, We are just way better at it that other signs so we get the blame.click to expand
We get the blame for a lot of things.

Posted by Rabbit
If anything, a lot of Scorpios may be the most likely to identify and mitigate manipulation attempts.
Posted by Rabbit
The most manipulative people I've known have NOT been Scorpios. Or even water signs in general.
If anything, a lot of Scorpios may be the most likely to identify and mitigate manipulation attempts.
I've noticed many fire and air signs seem to fancy themselves as master manipulators.
+1

I don't get that whole manipulation bit either. I have a way of getting what I want or aligning things in my favor I don't think of it as manipulation... its life skills. Survival. I think to manipulate someone is to trick them, or prey on their vulnerabilities, anyone is capable or suceptible to that.

whats a scorpio?


lol @ this thread
Posted by tizianiPosted by MscorpPosted by tizianiPosted by MscorpPosted by tizianiPosted by Rabbit
The most manipulative people I've known have NOT been Scorpios. Or even water signs in general.
If anything, a lot of Scorpios may be the most likely to identify and mitigate manipulation attempts.
I've noticed many fire and air signs seem to fancy themselves as master manipulators. In fact, I see their shit before they see it themselves and I am usually 2 or 3 steps ahead of them.
Truly though, everyone manipulates in some fashion. We are social creatures and we rely on other humans for "stuff". Getting "stuff" often involves some form of manipulation, subtle or not, intentional or not.
Lets not not try and make manipulation out to be some sort of devious, underhanded, Sith Lord Dark Side of the Force shit...
Yeah I totally agree. Although Scorps pulling people on their manipulation isn't counter to their manipulative nature. If you're that good at seeing it coming in others, it's because you've mastered it yourself. To whatever end you use it for is completely up to your character.
Ability to pull people on their manipulation comes from being observant
and awareness of what's happening around. Not from being manipulative
themselves.
A good defender does not mean being good front player.
Tomatoe tomato. You think manipulation is pejorative I'm guessing, I don't care about the implications of the word itself.
your logic was flawed, one need to have different skill to be manipulative and to be able to call people on their manipulation.
Specify how scorps can be good manipulative , if you know any other attributes.
Oh I never said good manipulative. I just said manipulative. Example : your last post.click to expand
You know you wanted to say good manipulative. 🙂
Being completely honest, I wouldn't be with anyone that I would have to manipulate. It's not worth it. If I'm not happy with who that individual is, then what's the whole point of being with him? I don't want anyone that I have to change.


Posted by tiziani
If you're that good at seeing it coming in others, it's because you've mastered it yourself. To whatever end you use it for is completely up to your character.
Nah...the only thing mastered by a Scorp regarding manipulation is our sponge like absorbtion of learning throughout life of what's real, what's fake, what's drama and the manipulation that exudes from "drama like" fake people. When a Scorp or whoever else holds that mirror up to the fake drama queens/kings the cries of victim ensues, which ultimately calls attention from others like you who either choose to or are too distracted by the cries to see the other side of that fluffy pancake. Libra bits and consolation are like peanut butter and jelly 😉 Ya know what? That's ok, cuz manipulators are weak people who need people like you to surround them, which results in you being manipulated in the long run. Ironic isn't it?

Posted by tizianiPosted by LetltBPosted by tiziani
If you're that good at seeing it coming in others, it's because you've mastered it yourself. To whatever end you use it for is completely up to your character.
Nah...the only thing mastered by a Scorp regarding manipulation is our sponge like absorbtion of learning throughout life of what's real, what's fake, what's drama and the manipulation that exudes from "drama like" fake people. When a Scorp or whoever else holds that mirror up to the fake drama queens/kings the cries of victim ensues, which ultimately calls attention from others like you who either choose to or are too distracted by the cries to see the other side of that fluffy pancake. Libra bits and consolation are like peanut butter and jelly 😉 Ya know what? That's ok, cuz manipulators are weak people who need people like you to surround them, which results in you being manipulated in the long run. Ironic isn't it?
Holding the pedestal is a dirty job and someone's got to do it.click to expand
I'll take your word for it. I've held some pretty dirty mirrors up, so I'm not surprised.
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