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I dislike how people say that Scorps are manipulative, just because they don't understand them. Or they say that Scorps are trying to control them. They're a lot of scorpio haters out here. Being with a scorpio is simple. Respect, honesty, and loyalty is all that is needed. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem. It's all or nothing. I Rarely see anything positive being mentioned with it related to scorpios.
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Posted by Noreallynow
I dislike how people say that Scorps are manipulative, just because they don't understand them. Or they say that Scorps are trying to control them. They're a lot of scorpio haters out here. Being with a scorpio is simple. Respect, honesty, and loyalty is all that is needed. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem. It's all or nothing. I Rarely see anything positive being mentioned with it related to scorpios.



Pretty simple isn't it?
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Posted by tiziani
Noreallynow, being honest with you, any time you mention you and this guy I get very confused.

You mention a lot of details but I generally only clearly understand

1. What people want

2. What they're doing to get it


So to say "I don't have an inch of hate or dislike in my body for him" tells me nothing. Personally if I'd have disliked him immensely. And maybe then I would have wanted to get him and all thoughts of him out of my life asap.

Sending texts with just a dot on them is manipulative yes, or if you want to call it playing for attention, a reaction, trolling... that's how I see it. Is it very good manipulation? No.



I haven't spoken to him in two months. That was before it ended. He was talking shit to me. So, I backed off for days.
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Meh, I think manipulation, especially of the malicious kind, has more to do with a person's lack of character than it does with their signs. Every single person I know who has some truly nasty traits/habits...aka they're assholes...come from different signs and they've let all the negative traits rule their character and personality.



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This, We are just way better at it that other signs so we get the blame.
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We get the blame for a lot of things.
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The most manipulative people I've known have NOT been Scorpios. Or even water signs in general.

If anything, a lot of Scorpios may be the most likely to identify and mitigate manipulation attempts.

I've noticed many fire and air signs seem to fancy themselves as master manipulators. In fact, I see their shit before they see it themselves and I am usually 2 or 3 steps ahead of them.

Truly though, everyone manipulates in some fashion. We are social creatures and we rely on other humans for "stuff". Getting "stuff" often involves some form of manipulation, subtle or not, intentional or not.

Lets not not try and make manipulation out to be some sort of devious, underhanded, Sith Lord Dark Side of the Force shit...



Yeah I totally agree. Although Scorps pulling people on their manipulation isn't counter to their manipulative nature. If you're that good at seeing it coming in others, it's because you've mastered it yourself. To whatever end you use it for is completely up to your character.



Ability to pull people on their manipulation comes from being observant
and awareness of what's happening around. Not from being manipulative
themselves.

A good defender does not mean being good front player.




Tomatoe tomato. You think manipulation is pejorative I'm guessing, I don't care about the implications of the word itself.



your logic was flawed, one need to have different skill to be manipulative and to be able to call people on their manipulation.
Specify how scorps can be good manipulative , if you know any other attributes.



Oh I never said good manipulative. I just said manipulative. Example : your last post.
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You know you wanted to say good manipulative. 🙂
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Posted by tiziani

If you're that good at seeing it coming in others, it's because you've mastered it yourself. To whatever end you use it for is completely up to your character.



Nah...the only thing mastered by a Scorp regarding manipulation is our sponge like absorbtion of learning throughout life of what's real, what's fake, what's drama and the manipulation that exudes from "drama like" fake people. When a Scorp or whoever else holds that mirror up to the fake drama queens/kings the cries of victim ensues, which ultimately calls attention from others like you who either choose to or are too distracted by the cries to see the other side of that fluffy pancake. Libra bits and consolation are like peanut butter and jelly 😉 Ya know what? That's ok, cuz manipulators are weak people who need people like you to surround them, which results in you being manipulated in the long run. Ironic isn't it?
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If you're that good at seeing it coming in others, it's because you've mastered it yourself. To whatever end you use it for is completely up to your character.



Nah...the only thing mastered by a Scorp regarding manipulation is our sponge like absorbtion of learning throughout life of what's real, what's fake, what's drama and the manipulation that exudes from "drama like" fake people. When a Scorp or whoever else holds that mirror up to the fake drama queens/kings the cries of victim ensues, which ultimately calls attention from others like you who either choose to or are too distracted by the cries to see the other side of that fluffy pancake. Libra bits and consolation are like peanut butter and jelly 😉 Ya know what? That's ok, cuz manipulators are weak people who need people like you to surround them, which results in you being manipulated in the long run. Ironic isn't it?



Holding the pedestal is a dirty job and someone's got to do it.
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I'll take your word for it. I've held some pretty dirty mirrors up, so I'm not surprised.