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Calling all Sun/Venus Scorp, Moon Gemini
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Please tell me about yourself when in love...
I need specific questions please, this is too broad of a question. We'll be here forever--. Generally, I am a "different" person and different things at various stages of the relationship. Some of these personalities/things build upon each other, and some of these personalities/things are determined by how I see this person I am with(e.g. purely sexual, potential partner, friend/lover).
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What do you want out of a relationship?
Pretty basic things: respect, honesty, loyalty. Not so basic things: It would be better to list what I don't want out of a relationship than what I want.
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Many have said that an air moon is feelingless. Joking or not, It's been said enough. What are your thoughts on that stereotype?
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Just because someone doesn't get the response from me that they want does not mean I lack feelings. I'm okay with people believing I have no feelings....they have less to "work" with when they jump to that conclusion. People that really know me know otherwise. At the end of the day, these are the only people that matter to me.
In general, I think when an air sign is combined with a water sign this description of "feelingless" looks a little different. While I feel many things pretty deeply, I am very good at masking my feelings. As well, I detest drama, public scenes (this excludes affection),can detach easily and I don't get all "worked up" over issues. This is not because I don't care, but I don't think it's a good use of energy to get all hysterical about something when that energy can be used developing a plan/strategy to address the problem.
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Are you in a serious relationship? Have you been in one? Do you want to be in one?
Hmmm...
I'm just wondering, are these last questions posted because there is the belief that air moons want to remain single or something?
Posted by robyn808
Pft.. We have feelings! Although I think some have pointed out that we tend to avoid them. I think the moon prefers to think and talk about emotions objectively to understand them. Communicating our emotions more often then displaying them.
Jeeze, is third times the charm?
+1 I agree with most of this, however I don't know if this is a hard fast rule for me. While I prefer to communicate my feelings more often than displaying them, it really depends on the person, nature of our relationship and the stage of our relationship. Strangers you will get a very vague, aloof discussion and about how I feel (e.g. what's bothering me, my opinion about an issue, nothing personal). Friends, I will get more personal, but still just a form of communication (e.g. sentimental cards, poetry, letters, art work I created) no physical displays. Someone I am dating, love.... That person will get communication up to a degree and then it shifts--without me even realizing it. The more I care about you the less I will communicate my feelings and the more I will display my feelings and you're suppose to just "get it". I don't do the labels. I won't talk about what stage we are in the relationship. My level of affection, attention and devotion to you will speak volumes (more so than any words I could say) and you NEED TO JUST GET IT. I guess this is where my Sun sign begin to muddle up the air moon stereotype.
Posted by NovemberSun
I can't speak for all Moon in Geminis...Perhaps, its my Scorpio placements, but I do FEEL. In fact, I've learned to see my Moon in Gemini as a BLESSING for its gifts of detachment. And, when I say detachment, I do not mean lack of feeling. Its my ability to take an intense feeling situation and use my mind to look at it in a different way than just pure feeling. The challenge for me comes when my rational mind conflicts with my intense feelings. When the rational response is contradictory to the instinctual feelings I feel. That can be where indecisiveness comes into play for me. In fact, I wonder if other moon in geminis feel this...
+1 Yes, I can relate to all of this NS.
Posted by NovemberSunPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by robyn808
Pft.. We have feelings! Although I think some have pointed out that we tend to avoid them. I think the moon prefers to think and talk about emotions objectively to understand them. Communicating our emotions more often then displaying them.
My level of affection, attention and devotion to you will speak volumes (more so than any words I could say) and you NEED TO JUST GET IT. I guess this is where my Sun sign begin to muddle up the air moon stereotype.
I LOVE that you are a fellow Scorpio with Moon in Gemini! I feel its a unique combination.click to expand
Moon sistah! I agree, it is a unique combination for all of the reason you highlighted. I can relate to many of your post. It's like you take the words right out of my mouth, expect I wouldn't actually say/post them lol! I'm not much of a "talker", even on a anonymous public forum .
I thoroughly enjoy your post and you're energy.
Lord have mercy.....is it me or DXP?
Posted by BullGemPosted by NovemberSun
I can't speak for all Moon in Geminis. I'm sure there are some with heavy air in their chart that appear less accessible. Perhaps, its my Scorpio placements, but I do FEEL. In fact, I've learned to see my Moon in Gemini as a BLESSING for its gifts of detachment. And, when I say detachment, I do not mean lack of feeling. Its my ability to take an intense feeling situation and use my mind to look at it in a different way than just pure feeling. The challenge for me comes when my rational mind conflicts with my intense feelings. When the rational response is contradictory to the instinctual feelings I feel. That can be where indecisiveness comes into play for me.
The first time I delved deeper into astrology and read that there was more to it than just sun signs, read about my gemini moon, I was offended. I really was. For starters, I don't have a great buddying relationship with most of the gem suns I meet (some not all) and to have a placement there...I felt like it was some sick karmic joke. lol.
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In response to this^^^^^:
I don't know if I would say I was offended when I first read about Gem Moons, but I will say I had a better understanding of some of my "quirks" or traits that 1) frustrated and continues to frustrates other people so much and 2) made me feel disconnected from myself at times in the past(if that makes any sense). This is probably the contradiction between the the rational response and the instinctual feelings you speak of NovSun. I guess I wasn't all that offended by the Gem Moon description because my intention when reading about the placement was to learn more about myself in an effort to just get my stuff together--help make sense of and better manage that contradiction. So I was willing to take it all in, the good the bad and the ugly. I don't like hearing negative things about myself, but I can take it and process it.
I wouldn't say all of the negative traits associated with the Gem Moon describes me completely, but I will say that I can see how I demonstrate some of these negative traits in my unique way. I mean I wouldn't say I am "fickle", but I do NEED a lot of mental stimulation and get bored easily if something or someone does not challenge me. Rather than wander/cheat however, (as Gem Moons are said to do often) I will look for projects, book, a physical challenge... to spark my interest.
Joining DXP and hearing so many people's dislike for the placement is what threw me the most, but even that didn't really offend me simply because I don't think I'm in the position to challenge someone's experience and everyone needs to make sense of their experience in their own way--even if it's to blame our moon placement .
I will say, I like the placement despite all the negativity it gets. I think it helps me stay objective (as objective as I possible can be) as you both pointed out, and it supports and challenges my Sun sign well. My need to know and willingness to seek out answers, my love for learning new things and my dark view on life/people are all supported or balanced by my Gem Moon. It also allows me to clearly describe the many many feelings I experience on a regular basis, which is a challenge.
I don't know if I would say I was offended when I first read about Gem Moons, but I will say I had a better understanding of some of my "quirks" or traits that 1) frustrated and continues to frustrates other people so much and 2) made me feel disconnected from myself at times in the past(if that makes any sense). This is probably the contradiction between the the rational response and the instinctual feelings you speak of NovSun. I guess I wasn't all that offended by the Gem Moon description because my intention when reading about the placement was to learn more about myself in an effort to just get my stuff together--help make sense of and better manage that contradiction. So I was willing to take it all in, the good the bad and the ugly. I don't like hearing negative things about myself, but I can take it and process it.
I wouldn't say all of the negative traits associated with the Gem Moon describes me completely, but I will say that I can see how I demonstrate some of these negative traits in my unique way. I mean I wouldn't say I am "fickle", but I do NEED a lot of mental stimulation and get bored easily if something or someone does not challenge me. Rather than wander/cheat however, (as Gem Moons are said to do often) I will look for projects, book, a physical challenge... to spark my interest.
Joining DXP and hearing so many people's dislike for the placement is what threw me the most, but even that didn't really offend me simply because I don't think I'm in the position to challenge someone's experience and everyone needs to make sense of their experience in their own way--even if it's to blame our moon placement .
I will say, I like the placement despite all the negativity it gets. I think it helps me stay objective (as objective as I possible can be) as you both pointed out, and it supports and challenges my Sun sign well. My need to know and willingness to seek out answers, my love for learning new things and my dark view on life/people are all supported or balanced by my Gem Moon. It also allows me to clearly describe the many many feelings I experience on a regular basis, which is a challenge.
Posted by NovemberSun
Another thing, I often need to do be doing two things at once. I really realized this deeply recently. In fact, an astrologer told me due to my moon and its placement, I am best served having multiple jobs as I do. This was in response to a question about me devoting all my time to my writing. I was shocked when she affirmed that I am at my best when I have more than one project going on, just be consistent and keep them in the same field.
Lol! Same here, but I will admit some of my need to stay busy has more to do with avoiding difficult feelings that need to be addressed and processed. I literally will begin writing....stare at what I wrote and find something else to do before completing my thought, promising myself I will come back to it. This isn't always the case, but enough that I notice I need to address it.
oh my gawd... you're all awesome. thank you for sharing NovSun, Phoenix, BullGem...
Scorched.. I personally dont feel gem moons have no feelings lol. I just wanted to know thoughts on the stereotype.
My scorp has a gem moon, Phoenix, that's why I was curious about this. I've never really asked the scorp forum questions like this in connection to my relationship. I feel I understand him very very well and I know full well he has very deep feelings for everything he's passionate about.
a few of my placements are in the 3rd house. In numerology, which I'm kind of into as well, I have some numbers represented by the sign gem... I know what traits you guys are offended by, but I think Phoenix explained her gem moon beautifully. You as well NovemberSun. I can't thank you all enough because at first I didnt think anyone would answer! 😛 I think gems can have about as bad a rep as scorps sometimes, but i have a lot of love for gems. they are brilliant and any strong gem placement always seems to bring an element of excitement.
I think it's a unique combo too. I seem to attract those with gem moon or gem rising a lot. My ex was a gem moon i think... might have been gem rising. Actually... now that I think about it, I was seeing another scorp with gem moon before my bf and I started dating.
At any rate, the way I see his gem moon shine in him is that he is always busy. He's very social, def more talkative than your average scorp.. he's a preeeetty good communicator when he wants to be lol. In love... phoenix... what you'd said made so much sense about your affections coming out in your actions more so than words ...and perhaps it's my cap sun and pisces moon but i do "get him"
ladies, ladies, ladies... grazie mille xo
Scorched.. I personally dont feel gem moons have no feelings lol. I just wanted to know thoughts on the stereotype.
My scorp has a gem moon, Phoenix, that's why I was curious about this. I've never really asked the scorp forum questions like this in connection to my relationship. I feel I understand him very very well and I know full well he has very deep feelings for everything he's passionate about.
a few of my placements are in the 3rd house. In numerology, which I'm kind of into as well, I have some numbers represented by the sign gem... I know what traits you guys are offended by, but I think Phoenix explained her gem moon beautifully. You as well NovemberSun. I can't thank you all enough because at first I didnt think anyone would answer! 😛 I think gems can have about as bad a rep as scorps sometimes, but i have a lot of love for gems. they are brilliant and any strong gem placement always seems to bring an element of excitement.
I think it's a unique combo too. I seem to attract those with gem moon or gem rising a lot. My ex was a gem moon i think... might have been gem rising. Actually... now that I think about it, I was seeing another scorp with gem moon before my bf and I started dating.
At any rate, the way I see his gem moon shine in him is that he is always busy. He's very social, def more talkative than your average scorp.. he's a preeeetty good communicator when he wants to be lol. In love... phoenix... what you'd said made so much sense about your affections coming out in your actions more so than words ...and perhaps it's my cap sun and pisces moon but i do "get him"
ladies, ladies, ladies... grazie mille xo
Posted by NovemberSunPosted by BullGem
Everyone's got a mutuable emotions when you really think about it. We get up in the morning feeling well rested. We stub our toe on the bed and that irritates us. We find out there is no more coffee. We are grumpy. We got to a coffee shop and treat ourselves to a nice deluxe coffee. Yum! We feel satisfied. We even pick up a sweet muffin. Makes us think of our sister and how good of a baker she is. "Wow, I have to call her. I miss her.", you think as you walk to your car. You get on the road. Traffic is horrible. We get irritated. It makes us think of how much we don't like the city we live in. You start thinking about how you should have moved elsewhere. You hear your nagging mother's voice in your head. You turn on the radio. Your favorite song is playing! You haven't heard it in ages. Makes you remember a high school party and your first crush. You feel better as you sing and pull into work.
This all happens before you even get to work! We ALL shift so many times in the day that we are barely aware of it!
Now, what makes us Gem Moons appear so changeable?? That is the distinction I want to understand!
I think Gem Moons appear changeable because external changes are not always necessary for our mood to change, while the examples you gave above were all influenced by external forces. For example, I can be talking to a man for weeks. Nice, friendly, charming and at some point I may think: Ugh, this man is getting dull. Okay, next! He hasn't "changed". He has been his regular charming, friendly self, but my interest in him has changed for reasons only I am aware of. The disinterest happens so suddenly, but you've already concluded "this won't work". I think people get put off by our appeared changes because it's unpredictable and does come off as unstable because we are in fact the one "changing" for no clear reason to them. They're just left thinking--"What'd I do?" or "What the hell just happened there?"
Your pic in the GIF thread captured it well:
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Gemini Moon
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Okay, it's me.....
Posted by BullGemPosted by NovemberSunPosted by BullGem
I could not agree more. It's torture. And I think that is a typical gem moon trait that gives us kind of a bad rep. 😛
I love talking about so many different things and I need someone who will 'keep up' because I take drastic tangents every few minutes and can go on like that for hours. When I'm in the mood for it...I have other placements that turn me into the occasional hermit.
Yes, I could see how that would come across.
I can be a hermit, too. But, my hermit atmosphere has much going on. For instance, a date weekend alone with myself may include going to see a film, getting lost in a bookstore, lots of online frolicking, taking walks, and writing (often many of these things simultaneously!)
To add, my Moon is the most challenged in my chart. My moon opposes uranus and squares mars.
+1 @ what you do when alone. Even by myself I must find some stimulation somewhere. 😄
When with others I've been criticized a few times, because I do something else as I talk to them...they think I'm bored. And that is not necessarily true.
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+2. I am quite content with my own company and my friends (and dates) find this very bizarre. I've gone to movies, spoken word performances, sports games by myself. I think I understand Creepy's last few questions about relationships now . I also enjoy walking downtown, grabbing a tea and just browsing books or watching criminal documentaries or dark/suspense movies alone (I'm sure that Scorp Sun peaking through )
@NovSun, love the term "online frolicking" btw!
Posted by NovemberSunPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by CreepyPants
Just because someone doesn't get the response from me that they want does not mean I lack feelings. I'm okay with people believing I have no feelings....they have less to "work" with when they jump to that conclusion. People that really know me know otherwise. At the end of the day, these are the only people that matter to me.
Have many people thought you had no feelings?click to expand
They have never used those words exactly, but some version of. I've been told I am hard to read, I don't seem like I care.
Lol! Perfect example: Yesterday I was having lunch with two colleagues at work and I noticed I didn't have my phone with me. So I'm looking and looking and say "Hmph" and go back to eating. One of my colleagues says "what's wrong?" and I tell her "I can't find my phone. I think I might have left it on my desk". Both of them get all excited "What do you mean you think?! Do you want me to call your phone? OMG what if you lost it?" I just shrugged, and said "well, I'll see if it's on my desk. It's probably there." Now, of course I was worried that I lost my phone, but freakin' out wasn't going to suddenly produce my phone. And interrupting my lunch to race back to the office just to confirm that my phone was in fact on my desk would have just upset me because I ruined my lunch due to my carelessness. While I am eating I am mentally retracing my steps helping me calm my fears, but to them, "I don't care about my phone". When we did get back to the office I ran up 4 flights of stairs (because the elevator is too slow ) and I did find my phone (on my desk). When I told them I found my phone they were like, "wow you were so calm. If that were me I'd be freaking out, running all over the place trying to find it". Little do they know. I was praying and hoping my phone was on my desk and retraced my steps a hundred times over during lunch to be "positive" I left it on my desk.
Posted by NovemberSunPosted by PhoenixRising
In response to this^^^^^:
Joining DXP and hearing so many people's dislike for the placement is what threw me the most, but even that didn't really offend me simply because I don't think I'm in the position to challenge someone's experience and everyone needs to make sense of their experience in their own way--even if it's to blame our moon placement .
I will say, I like the placement despite all the negativity it gets. I think it helps me stay objective (as objective as I possible can be) as you both pointed out, and it supports and challenges my Sun sign well. My need to know and willingness to seek out answers, my love for learning new things and my dark view on life/people are all supported or balanced by my Gem Moon. It also allows me to clearly describe the many many feelings I experience on a regular basis, which is a challenge.
Well, we know Scorpios have the worst reputations. I read once that being a Scorpio woman with Aries Rising...well, it wasn't a nice thing said. Pair that with our notorious moons, I'm pretty desensitized to the bad press.
Or, maybe I just don't care. 😉click to expand
. Depending on my mood I can laugh it off (because it is quite humorous the things people say).
Posted by CreepyPants
My scorp has a gem moon, Phoenix, that's why I was curious about this. I've never really asked the scorp forum questions like this in connection to my relationship. I feel I understand him very very well and I know full well he has very deep feelings for everything he's passionate about.
Ahh, I see. Yeah, the emotions are most definitely felt, just not always publicly expressed. Remember, there is this strong need that Scorps have to control things, this includes how they are perceived by others. Even though we really don't have any control over how others see us, we think we can control this by "managing" our emotions in a way that we find acceptable--and what emotions one finds acceptable to express varies from Scorp to Scorp. I for example have only cried in front of one person (most recently). It may happen again one day, but not if I can help it . Trust is a huge factor.
I use to think my issues with expressing certain emotions was a cultural thing. There are certain emotions that I see as weak in myself, but not in others. Ironically, I spend my days encouraging my clients to connect with and express their emotions. Eh, do what I say, not what I do.
So Creepy to answer your question:
Are you in a serious relationship? No. I'm trying to get myself "together" first. I have high expectations for my partners. I think it's only fair that I give the things I am expecting from another person. I've also just happen to "fall" into all of my past relationships. I entered these relationships not really knowing what it is I wanted from the other person, what it is I needed for myself or how to be a true partner to someone else.
Have you been in one? Well, I guess it's how you define "serious". If it's purely based on length of time (e.g. 1+ years) then yes, quite a few. If it's based on level of commitment to another person (e.g. both partners are loyal, faithful, devoted to making the other happy), then no.
Do you want to be in one? At some point, of course.
Oh, and Creepy.
Are you in a serious relationship? No. I'm trying to get myself "together" first. I have high expectations for my partners. I think it's only fair that I give the things I am expecting from another person. I've also just happen to "fall" into all of my past relationships. I entered these relationships not really knowing what it is I wanted from the other person, what it is I needed for myself or how to be a true partner to someone else.
Have you been in one? Well, I guess it's how you define "serious". If it's purely based on length of time (e.g. 1+ years) then yes, quite a few. If it's based on level of commitment to another person (e.g. both partners are loyal, faithful, devoted to making the other happy), then no.
Do you want to be in one? At some point, of course.
Oh, and Creepy.
the way i understand the gem moon to operate with a scorp sun and most likely with any sun placement, given this thread and my personal experience, is far from an absence of feelings... it's more a pull for your feelings to be present wherever you allow your attention to be drawn. with things like a partner/lover... even my attention doesnt have to be on him for me to be aware of my feelings for him. it's one of those things across any sign or any placement where the feelings are just there.
my moon is in pisces. my feelings, whatever they are, behave very possessively. they are understanding, deeply understanding, accepting, open to all, etc.
for a gem moon you've all described it pretty much the way i'd think it would be... enticed and stimulated by thought, communication and interest... curiosity.
for a scorp sun especially i can see how a gem moon might almost compound on a scorps curiosity for anything mysterious.
whatever the case may be, the combo is amazing. scorps are already an exceptionally intelligent bunch. add a gem moon and damn...
my moon is in pisces. my feelings, whatever they are, behave very possessively. they are understanding, deeply understanding, accepting, open to all, etc.
for a gem moon you've all described it pretty much the way i'd think it would be... enticed and stimulated by thought, communication and interest... curiosity.
for a scorp sun especially i can see how a gem moon might almost compound on a scorps curiosity for anything mysterious.
whatever the case may be, the combo is amazing. scorps are already an exceptionally intelligent bunch. add a gem moon and damn...
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for a gem moon you've all described it pretty much the way i'd think it would be... enticed and stimulated by thought, communication and interest... curiosity... for a scorp sun especially i can see how a gem moon might almost compound on a scorps curiosity for anything mysterious.
whatever the case may be, the combo is amazing. scorps are already an exceptionally intelligent bunch. add a gem moon and damn...!!!!!!
Sigh.. I concur. My Scorp has Gem Moon, He may hide his outward feelings to the world, but he makes his feelings towards me VERY clear, no room for confusion or doubt. (his venus in Libra probably helps too). With my Gemini Ascendant and Mercury in Gemini..its Heaven & fireworks in my mind..Mental Compatibilty and mental stimulation at its best! Our conversations, and shared questions and thoughts is like we're trying to unveil the very mysteries of the world, TOGETHER. Because of THIS very mental connection, I find it difficult to share very much with someone else.
He also has a way of calming me down, when I start to freak out when things don't go according to plan or if I'm uncertain about the outcome of something..Gem moons have a way of walking you "OUT of the Box"..to detach and rationalize in such a calm & cool headed manner.
All of you ladies:
@Bullgem, @NovemberSun, @PhoenixRising, @Robyn808
..are SUCH intelligent beings, I learn SO much from you Gem moons.
-Thank you..xoxo..
Posted by CreepyPantsI've noticed that I tend to have an objective view on emotions when I'm single, but when I'm committed I more than likely intellectualize our feelings rather than disregard/compartmentalize. My gemini moon gives me the urge to express my thoughts, but my scorpio venus usually causes me to find a secluded place & jot in a journal rather than talk to others.
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Are you in a serious relationship? Have you been in one? Do you want to be in one?