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Man or Woman, Sign doesn't matter. Cheating while married is wrong and has consequences.
To get a divorce for the sake of getting into another relationship is cheating.

IF He or She leaves someone to hook up with you, then, he or she are more likely to cheat on you.

Why do people cheat? They are WEAK. IF you want to invest your emotions in a weak man or woman, that's your business, but be prepared to carry a heavier load than you had anticipated, when you least expect it.

What you want isn't necessarily what you need and what you need isn't necessarily what you want.


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Posted by Impulsv
Mr. fireman I know this thread is based on my response on other post. Don't matter, but life ain't black n white n Id rather the man leave the marriage prior to having an emotional or physical affair.
I can't stand those who engage while married to make sure it works out n has sure thing .
The one who leaves because knows it's over, wether too feeling or another without guarentees did the right thing by me. Wtf do I want a man who wants to be elsewhere!!




Impy, to tell you the truth, this thread is NOT related to something that YOU said. Actually,
it was something that I had said on page one in the "Taking it slowly" thread that discussed
FWB in which I had waxed poetic. Refer to song above with the bold line, below.

Posted by MrFirebird
OP,
Like a drunkard behind the wheel,
And a foolish man who kills and steals.
And a foolish woman who lies many an alibi,
To no avail, excuses, excuses, she surely tries.
Truth and consequences,
Rewards and recompenses.
And like LGBT, FWB is a pretty dumb thing to be.
Let's be honest with ourselves and consider the things we see.
You're free to do whatever you want.
And you'll do that whatever you choose,
But truth be told, from ages old, there is a haunt,
For all these things, the piper's held to pay his dues.
These foolish things, people doin',
Shall surely come, for to haunt, in their ruin.
Now, I'm not tryin' to be forceful, hateful and mean.
I'm only telling you what I have seen.

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Also, Impy, I know that you have some familiarity with the Catholic Church to some degree, matters of faith.

Read what follows and pay attention to what Jesus said:

Matthew 5:27-28

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

As far as Jesus Christ is concerned, in your case, your husband had already committed adultery, before you knew it. Though, he may not have emotionally/physically engage with another woman, he had cheated on you, ALREADY, in his heart, well before the marriage ended.
Why? Because he looked "on a woman to lust after her".

But there is more to what Jesus is saying, there, than meets the eye. He is also pointing out
that it's a given that mankind is likely to slip and fall short of that very, VERY high standard.
The vast majority of men and women are absolutely clueless the very point of marriage and bearing
and raising children on the deepest and highest spiritual level. Because of this, so many lives
have fallen from innocence to a life of broken hearts, broken homes, and all the woes that follows
that contribute to the downfall of a nation and the world into the abysmal bottomless pit.

Do you understand what I what I am saying?
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Mr. Firebird- So is it cheating when you are just friends and interested in each other? It is called dating right?

Or when someone else says we are more than friends but no label?

ARE we allowed to still date others if there's no label?



What does that mean exactly, does the person who said it. Just want fwb? It's not cheating is it now?
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What if your partner stopped coming home most nights, leaving you wondering where they were, why.
When you wanted to try counselling to save your marriage, they refused, claiming that they would get "ganged up on". Guilty complex, anyone?

How about a wife begging for sex several times a week and he silently refuses her.
He rejects her publicly, refusing to dance with her at weddings despite others urging them to "dance with your wife!" and finding strange men will force your husband to make him buy you flowers and act loving towards you because he just can't otherwise, for some reason. And it is sweet yet embarrassing when this happens, like you are some sort of pitiful thing.

Then he decides, out of the blue, to pressure you to fuck his friend who happens to be passing out on the couch after a weekend of drinking, and you tell him you are not interested for two or three hours, yet he prods you to the point where you break and say "okay,but only if he says yes"

And then he has the audacity to say "well if I am going to get anything out of this, you have to suck my cock while you fuck him too"

And you are so, so relieved when your mutual friend agrees with you that you do not want to have sex, and berate your so called husband for trying to control things so much. And because the only reason he wanted to allow you to fuck him was because he didn't feel threatened by his financial status nor his looks, so he thought hey, she can fuck him all she wants, but omg does she wanna?

And then you decide that you are going to go out on your own and find someone you want to fuck, not someone HE wants you to fuck just so he can feel secure because he thinks you will not leave him for his "loser" friend?

And because your heart died already, because he's a fuckstand.
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Posted by TeaMint
Truth is not for everyone, it's only for those who prefer it to anything else.



Truth IS for everyone, but not everyone is for the Truth.
And those who are not for the truth, are for themselves and whatever cockamamie ideas
they choose to believe.
And if they are going to be for themselves, they certainly are not going to be for you.
These people, we know and recognize to be selfish people.
For whatever selfish gain, one can be assured that they will lie to you, cheat on you, abuse you and most certainly, they will betray you, if not kill you.

Whosoever would want to live in peace will not knowingly put themselves in a position that would compromise that peace. But whosoever would want to live in perpetual agony, will be determined to find a way to obtain it. In ignorance or foolishness, we have all chosen our poison and must live with the consequences. And the consequences which we must contend, ought not be scoffed, but rather, embraced as a reminder to us not to make the same mistake again.


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Posted by Gemi9
Posted by GuardianAnu
Well then I am glad I am here 🙂


It was a horror story. Yes, indeed. I re-read it a few times to make sure I am getting it right.
So I am sure you are going to be asked why haven't you divorce him?
I am normally opposed to divorces just because you fell out of love and still in marriage because
you have used to it and nothing horrible really is happening. But in this case I am curious why are you staying. Unless for financial reasons but after divorce he must take care of you, unless of course.
Oh, darling. It sucks!
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Oh, but I did leave him. 8 years ago. He was the Aquarius ex. I am with a Scorpio now.
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Gem,
The stop sign is put there for everyone. It's the "universal haircut" you alluded to.
Disobey the stop sign and you risk a serious accident.


I don't make up the rules, but I've come to understand them quite well.
After all, I'm just another truck driver delivering the freight to it's destination.

Gemmmm the stop signnnn. Gemmmmm the stop signnnnn.

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Posted by IrresistableScorp
Here's a real life scenario: My Great Aunt. She realized early on in her marriage that she and her husband were incompatible. He was gregarious and she is far more reserved. Eventually she got a job working in a library as a clerk and she met a man who she was far more suited to and she actually grew to love him. So she left her husband. For a weekend. Everyone pursuaded her to not get a divorce so she went back. In fact some of her relatives were actually cruel about it and told her they would disown her as a friend or family member if she divorced her husband. Grief stricken and confused she let go of the man she loved and went back to her husband.

I knew these two as a couple for many years. They adopted two children and basically lived as roommates for 50 some odd years. They were both nice people but very ill-suited. And it was widely known that even though they "loved" each other merely by default of living together, they hated each other as well. So this was their life for 50 some years. But they stayed married and no one left anyone for another person.

Anyway, not all marriages and indeed relationships are happy ones. Some are downright miserable.

Did these two do the right thing?



My heart goes out to the adopted children, who had NO CHOICE in the adoption process to be raised in a hateful environment. That upbringing will follow them around like herpes.
My answer is obvious.
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Posted by MrFirebird
Also, Impy, I know that you have some familiarity with the Catholic Church to some degree, matters of faith.

Read what follows and pay attention to what Jesus said:

Matthew 5:27-28

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

As far as Jesus Christ is concerned, in your case, your husband had already committed adultery, before you knew it. Though, he may not have emotionally/physically engage with another woman, he had cheated on you, ALREADY, in his heart, well before the marriage ended.
Why? Because he looked "on a woman to lust after her".

But there is more to what Jesus is saying, there, than meets the eye. He is also pointing out
that it's a given that mankind is likely to slip and fall short of that very, VERY high standard.
The vast majority of men and women are absolutely clueless the very point of marriage and bearing
and raising children on the deepest and highest spiritual level. Because of this, so many lives
have fallen from innocence to a life of broken hearts, broken homes, and all the woes that follows
that contribute to the downfall of a nation and the world into the abysmal bottomless pit.


Do you understand what I what I am saying?

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IS, yours and other's questions was already answered on previous pages.

Matthew 5:27-28

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


MrFirebird

OP,
Like a drunkard behind the wheel,
And a foolish man who kills and steals.
And a foolish woman who lies many an alibi,
To no avail, excuses, excuses, she surely tries.
Truth and consequences,
Rewards and recompenses.
And like LGBT, FWB is a pretty dumb thing to be.
Let's be honest with ourselves and consider the things we see.
You're free to do whatever you want.
And you'll do that whatever you choose,
But truth be told, from ages old, there is a haunt,
For all these things, the piper's held to pay his dues.
These foolish things, people doin',
Shall surely come, for to haunt, in their ruin.
Now, I'm not tryin' to be forceful, hateful and mean.
I'm only telling you what I have seen.

Truth and consequences,
Rewards and recompenses.

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Posted by IrresistableScorp
So you think she did the right thing by staying?

Because your answer is too highly cryptic. Is love the same thing as lust? be more specific. Do you think my Aunt did the right thing by staying married instead of leaving for good for a man she loved? Please just answer the question Mr F.




Jesus pointed out that it didn't matter the depth of the adultery, that is emotional physical, but
that if you so much as look upon a woman, you commit adultery, already, in your heart.

The adulteress was caught, in the very act. She was before Jesus by her accusers.
He stooped down and wrote in the sand. No one knows what he wrote. But it is likely the commandments
which the accusers themselves, had broken. He then said HE who is without sin, let HIM, cast the
first stone. one by one they dropped the stones and walked away. None were without sin.
He alone, remained. Woman were are your accusers? "None here Lord", she replied.
He told the adulteress, "Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more."
What is TRUE love? ^^^^ You're looking at HIM ^^^^, and... FORGIVENESS and COMPASSION surely ARE
His Greatest gift of SALVATION.

What you have seen in your Aunt, your Uncle, their adopted children is the product of sin and unforgiveness. Both committed adultery. His sin, her sin and the prior mistake of NOT taking marriage seriously, to begin with, set the stage for all the sorrows from the hatred through the years that followed that will, no doubt, be passed on to any grand-children who may be born of the adopted siblings who now hate each other. Most certainly a perplexing problem that is mirrored by countless mirrors around the world.
These are examples of the consequences that follow the foolish choices we freely choose.
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Posted by Gemi9
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By the way your story is very confusing IS.

The part about her falling for the man she worked with. Something happened between the two that you don't know about. My guess is emotional cheating.



SO HOW DO YOU STOP emotional cheating?
Do you cut some part of your...what?
Brain? Clit? What?

You people sound like emotional waste.
Nothing could had happened!
Never heard of love? Just because!!! No reason.
LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I believe you justified this in your own way over @ the relationships forum w/the
"HONEST CHEATING" thread. 😐
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Posted by truecap
Defending cheating is like defending stink on sh*t.



Shit stink has a purpose. The smell and texture of shit tells you about your health, mothers can tell if their babies are ill or not by the scent of it. It's necessary.

Cheating is not necessary, but in situations like where IS's aunt was trapped in a loveless marriage and had no way out for whatever reasons, finding yourself develop feelings for somebody else who treats you like you should be treated is not something that can always really be helped.

Mr. Firebird, I enjoy your posts but I would prefer to hear your own opinions on this subject rather than text from the Bible. Even you say you are not religious, so you're basically playing devil's advocate (lol the irony) which is not a strategy I appreciate. This is your thread, though, so do as you will, I just thought I would put that out there.

There's more to people's stories than black and white. Being emotionally and physically neglected by their spouse, who has more power financially and emotionally distant enough to keep their spouse under their thumb and afraid to leave is definitely more in the grey area.

Sometimes it takes another person to show you your value as a person again for you to realize you need to get out. An energy exchange to wake you up.


I think cheating, when you do it behind their backs without telling them what is going on or giving them options they refuse to talk about it and just let you continue to rot, is wrong, yes, although but when that person doesn't put up much of a fight when they know what is going on and the spouse tells them long before they take any action "look, if you don't give me what I need, I will seek it elsewhere" and they just continue to neglect, that's pretty much giving you their blessing to go find someone, so that when they do, don't act all surprised.

Divorce is not always an immediate option or an option at all. Especially if the dynamic of that marriage was that he was the breadwinner and she didn't work, because she couldn't, whether it be because they moved to another country where he worked but he was not legally allowed, or because of a physical/mental disability, etc and they have nowhere to go until somebody shows them the light, and that person happens to have swept them off their feet.

I would be interested to hear your opinion on this situation
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Posted by MrFirebird
IS, yours and other's questions was already answered on previous pages.

Matthew 5:27-28

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


MrFirebird

OP,
Like a drunkard behind the wheel,
And a foolish man who kills and steals.
And a foolish woman who lies many an alibi,
To no avail, excuses, excuses, she surely tries.
Truth and consequences,
Rewards and recompenses.
And like LGBT, FWB is a pretty dumb thing to be.
Let's be honest with ourselves and consider the things we see.
You're free to do whatever you want.
And you'll do that whatever you choose,
But truth be told, from ages old, there is a haunt,
For all these things, the piper's held to pay his dues.
These foolish things, people doin',
Shall surely come, for to haunt, in their ruin.
Now, I'm not tryin' to be forceful, hateful and mean.
I'm only telling you what I have seen.

Truth and consequences,
Rewards and recompenses.



According to 28, does that mean adultery only apply to men only? Is it only lust, or is it lust and love?
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Does a stop sign judge people? Not at all.
Do people judge a stop sign? Many do. And they disobey and ignore the sign.
What can happen? Accidents. Happens all the time.

Same is true for the commandments. They were written and given for protection, for instruction in the path of a happy life. But not many will hear it. As it is written, break one, you have broken them all. For all of us have fallen short of the glory of God. There is not a single one of us good, no, not even one, and our righteousness, self-proclaimed, or proclaimed by others, are as filthy rags, in the sight of the Almighty.

There was a rich man who kept all of the law from the days of his youth, asked what was needed that he might have eternal life, yet, the Lord told him to sell all that he had and to give to the poor. And that rich man went away, sorrowful, for he was very rich. Wealth is a hard thing to let go.
Someone asked "Who then can be saved? But Jesus said, the things which are impossible with men, are
possible with God. That is... The Lord God has made a way. We are to seek the Way. We are to seek Him.
He IS The Way, The Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but through Him Who said I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

What does it mean? Though we all deserve eternal damnation, God's love was such that He gave his
only begotten Son, that whosoever would believe in HIM, would not perish, but shall have everlasting life.
We must be humble and of contrite spirit before we can begin to know. We must have the heart of a child.

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Posted by MrFirebird
Does a stop sign judge people? Not at all.
Do people judge a stop sign? Many do. And they disobey and ignore the sign.
What can happen? Accidents. Happens all the time.

Same is true for the commandments. They were written and given for protection, for instruction in the path of a happy life. But not many will hear it. As it is written, break one, you have broken them all. For all of us have fallen short of the glory of God. There is not a single one of us good, no, not even one, and our righteousness, self-proclaimed, or proclaimed by others, are as filthy rags, in the sight of the Almighty....



Ok, now you're just being cheeky. 😛
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By the way your story is very confusing IS.

The part about her falling for the man she worked with. Something happened between the two that you don't know about. My guess is emotional cheating.



SO HOW DO YOU STOP emotional cheating?
Do you cut some part of your...what?
Brain? Clit? What?

You people sound like emotional waste.
Nothing could had happened!
Never heard of love? Just because!!! No reason.
LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!



I believe you justified this in your own way over @ the relationships forum w/the
"HONEST CHEATING" thread. 😐
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Honest Cheating? That's an oxymoron.
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Posted by MrFirebird
Does a stop sign judge people? Not at all.
Do people judge a stop sign? Many do. And they disobey and ignore the sign.
What can happen? Accidents. Happens all the time.

Same is true for the commandments. They were written and given for protection, for instruction in the path of a happy life. But not many will hear it. As it is written, break one, you have broken them all. For all of us have fallen short of the glory of God. There is not a single one of us good, no, not even one, and our righteousness, self-proclaimed, or proclaimed by others, are as filthy rags, in the sight of the Almighty....



Ok, now you're just being cheeky. 😛
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Not so. Nevertheless, I expressed my thoughts, and because you don't like the way I expressed
my opinion, you call me cheeky. That's rich.
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Posted by MrFirebird
IS, yours and other's questions was already answered on previous pages.

Matthew 5:27-28

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


According to 28, does that mean adultery only apply to men only? Is it only lust, or is it lust and love?
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Women commit adultery, too, so it applies to both. Lust is a word that synonymous with covet and the
both are synonymous with desire and want.
And these are words that suggests something is wanted/desired more than "needed". The word "Lust", in our modern times is stereotypically used in the context of sex, but the word can also be applied to just about anything. When a person "lusts" or "covets" some thing, or someone, it can be said that that person is unhappy with what they have or if they have nothing, they desire more.
When the lust become strong enough, willpower becomes weak, the object of that man or woman's desire, through sin, may become actively sought, and acquired.

Those two verses are part of a larger context of a sermon Jesus gave, which is known by many as "The Sermon on The Mount". You will find it in the link below. There you will see what Jesus says about
divorce. Except for the cause of fornication, no man ought to seek no sign a bill of divorcement
because doing so, causes the woman to commit adultery and another man to commit adultery who engages her. - You see, God see things far differently than we do. He KNOWS what's best for us and we
are to trust Him. But when we do NOT trust Him, and make up laws to appease and rationalize our lusts.
We, in effect, are attempting to become God, when we are not, because we know nothing and God knows all.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew% 205&version=KJV

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Posted by Gemi9
Posted by IrresistableScorp
If you are being neglected then get the fuck out. Period.

It's your arrogance about fucking with two families including kids that pisses people off. Capiche?



The kids are an adults!



Doesn't mean they won't be affected.
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That's right.
Grown kids WILL be affected to some degree.
Usually in the way of the parent's behavior following the divorce.
Listening to the ongoing negativity spoken out of earshot that follows.
Grandchildren, even great grandchildren, sooner or later, hear the same negativity.

My Great-grandmother was like that, at times. She called him "THAT MAN" with the face of utter contempt. I've never seen anyone else make the faces she made
I never heard him say a foul word about her.
They had divorced long after their kids were grown. Even after their grandchildren were born.
When she died her back was all twisted like an S and she had severe arthritis with boulder sized knuckles. She had cultivated an intense amount of hate toward him. I've heard it said that
hate can produce nasty toxins in the body that can bring on such illnesses and disease.
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Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by LetltB
Posted by Gemi9
Posted by LetltB
By the way your story is very confusing IS.

The part about her falling for the man she worked with. Something happened between the two that you don't know about. My guess is emotional cheating.



SO HOW DO YOU STOP emotional cheating?
Do you cut some part of your...what?
Brain? Clit? What?

You people sound like emotional waste.
Nothing could had happened!
Never heard of love? Just because!!! No reason.
LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!



I believe you justified this in your own way over @ the relationships forum w/the
"HONEST CHEATING" thread. 😐



Honest Cheating? That's an oxymoron.



SNAP Mr F.....exactly my words on the honest cheating thread

To give the benefit of the doubt,am wondering if Gemini does not have English as her first language so therefore her style of communication Is a little 'off'

If not ......... BACK TO SCHOOL!
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I have yet to visit that thread. Could be vocabulary. Could be intellectual disability, poor reading
comprehension or could be the twins. Could be something else. Again, I have yet to see that thread.
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Posted by MrFirebird
Does a stop sign judge people? Not at all.
Do people judge a stop sign? Many do. And they disobey and ignore the sign.
What can happen? Accidents. Happens all the time.

Same is true for the commandments. They were written and given for protection, for instruction in the path of a happy life. But not many will hear it. As it is written, break one, you have broken them all. For all of us have fallen short of the glory of God. There is not a single one of us good, no, not even one, and our righteousness, self-proclaimed, or proclaimed by others, are as filthy rags, in the sight of the Almighty....



Ok, now you're just being cheeky. 😛



Not so. Nevertheless, I expressed my thoughts, and because you don't like the way I expressed
my opinion, you call me cheeky. That's rich.
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You claimed you were not religious, though. Which is why the mentioning of Jesus in your posts is going over my head. I do not mean to offend, I apologize if I did. I am known to be rather blunt, but well meaning. Although those close to me say I can be brutal, not blunt. 😢

Maybe this is some abstract concept way of discussing the topic, I mean people think Taureans can be dumb, maybe this is what they mean. I am very straightforward and don't do abstract. Throw me a bone here lol.
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Well, I've read about all I can stand to read concerning "Honest Cheating".
From what I can make of it, Gem9 is trying to justify her behavior. No can do.
When I posted this thread, it really wasn't about anyone, in particular. Oddly,
some thought it was about them.

Recap:
1) Cheating is wrong
2) Cheating begins in the heart, BEFORE the emotional/physical act.
3) To be clear: 1st comes temptation, 2nd comes the yielding to temptation (fantasies)and thus sin, 3rd, comes the physical and/or emotional act. 4th, the spouse becomes the neglected/abused wittingly or unwittingly until the act is made known and for some time, thereafter.
4) IF the individual engaging is not married, then that person is committing adultery with whomever
the person may be, when that person's heart begins to desire that which is not his. (I allude to what Jesus said about committing adultery already in his heart.

I should point out that there is a difference between religion and a "relationship". God does NOT want
us to be "religious" but to be genuine and sincere in our profession of faith. For those of the faith,
they know good and well that it is NOT an easy road to walk. Nevertheless, they freely choose this road. And freely choose to trust and obey the Almighty. Endeavoring to overcome the trappngs of this world. Though it is not easy, because they truly love Jesus Christ, they try, and though they may
fail, He is just and faithful to forgive them, when they ask and encourage them onwards. The world cannot understand this. Also, it should be pointed out that down through the centuries, men have corrupted the truth, turning it into a lie. These are they who would launch "crusades" in the name of Christ. But Christ, never told them to do these things. The world judges Jesus for the errors of them who claim to follow Him. IMHO, misrepresenting the True Jesus Christ, His ministry, his purpose and his teachings and commandments, is placing one's self at serious odds with He, from Whom, True salvation is freely offered.

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Does a stop sign judge people? Not at all.
Do people judge a stop sign? Many do. And they disobey and ignore the sign.
What can happen? Accidents. Happens all the time.

Same is true for the commandments. They were written and given for protection, for instruction in the path of a happy life. But not many will hear it. As it is written, break one, you have broken them all. For all of us have fallen short of the glory of God. There is not a single one of us good, no, not even one, and our righteousness, self-proclaimed, or proclaimed by others, are as filthy rags, in the sight of the Almighty....



Ok, now you're just being cheeky. 😛



Not so. Nevertheless, I expressed my thoughts, and because you don't like the way I expressed
my opinion, you call me cheeky. That's rich.




You claimed you were not religious, though. Which is why the mentioning of Jesus in your posts is going over my head. I do not mean to offend, I apologize if I did. I am known to be rather blunt, but well meaning. Although those close to me say I can be brutal, not blunt. 😢

Maybe this is some abstract concept way of discussing the topic, I mean people think Taureans can be dumb, maybe this is what they mean. I am very straightforward and don't do abstract. Throw me a bone here lol.
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I am going to take a nap. Then I plan to go look at motorcycles. I may or may not be able to reply to this response until later. Be advised that my last reply is NOT a response your reply. It is simply following up on what I said to star. I had not seen gem9s comments on this subject anywhere other than in THIS thread. So, just wait for my pending reply.
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I am going to take a nap. Then I plan to go look at motorcycles. I may or may not be able to reply to this response until later. Be advised that my last reply is NOT a response your reply. It is simply following up on what I said to star. I had not seen gem9s comments on this subject anywhere other than in THIS thread. So, just wait for my pending reply.



Okay, thanks. I'm going out in a bit to celebrate my mother's birthday so I won't be around until much later on. Thank you for letting me know, I look forward to it. I really do feel choked about how I came off before and I am sorry. I like keeping things lighthearted and I often find myself saying "I didn't mean it that way". I still feel like an ass for asking if Rabbit was a robot, he most definitely isn't and I didn't even realize it was him, I was so used to his rabbit picture with the pincers. Both of you are some of my favourite posters here.
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