Has anyone noticed how immature Scorpios steal o

They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

I love Shakira!!!! And I want someone to teach me how to dance like her. Exactly.

I know a few Scorpios. It only applies to one and she is an October Scorpio. The guys don't seem to do it so much, at least the ones I know.

Posted by brynmor
for reasons? (November scorps)

many Scorps have so much low self-esteem and constantly trying to prove themselves to others. they'll deny it though, most of them do. they live in somewhat of a power struggle with themselves. constantly trying to out dew their self and inner whine about how the world is against them and whatnot. they find settlement in showing that they don't give a damn as it is others they feel that perceive them. it is a weakness of their own.

you gotta understand, the things the people complain about the most are the things they feel. you can see in the way they express themselves what their issue is. novembers scorps like to trance around and believe they are head strong, amazingly gifted, etc, to satisfy that ego they've created as described above....to deal with the outside world.

when you bottle things up and only take perceptions on how you see others looking at you then you try and strive for this goal that just doesn't exist. this is practically a mentality of most mid-late november scorps. they strive to be known, for their skills to be known....to have that judgment from others to make them feel good about themselves. the things they don't like about themselves they carry out, the things they want and want to better themselves in? they whine and complain about it.

----thats what i've noticed.

This is bang-on. I've also noticed this to be a characteristic of November Scorpios. I don't know many October ones, but they seem to be a different breed that marches more to the beat of their own drums. I realize that there is no such thing as total originality, because all ideas are essentially borrowed, but these lower Scorps tend to be walking, talking scene kids. They can't even take someone else's prefabricated style or idea and synthesize something unique using it; they literally copy it word-for-word and then expect to be praised for creating something completely "new"... Sorry, but no, not if you can't add your own individual twist to things.

They are very hung up on others' outside perceptions of them, because this is what they construct their self images based on. They try to project the image of what others see them as, and define it as their "identity", even though this is a contradiction because a REAL identity is not externally imposed on a person, but internally assumed by the individual.

Another thing I've noticed about these unevolved Scorpios - they will often gravitate towards original people (I guess it might be an attraction based on "these people have what I want"), but they use them only for purposes of self image. They're not interested in pursuing real friendships with them. They can only be friends with people are "equal to" or "below" them, because these people pose no threat when it comes to calling them out on their false image, and also because it makes them feel good about themselves (think big fish in a small pond syndrome).

Lower Scorpios cannot stand on their own without their friends around them, because they define themselves by their friends' perceptions of them. This is why they often overcompensate in the social arena, because they don't know who they really are without their peers around them. They are simultaneously attracted to "real" individuals and repelled by them, because it stirs in them an acute awareness that they are not truly authentic, and that their ego is externally manufactured.

I am a late February Pisces (February 27th). Do you notice any differences between February and March-born Pisces? I'm curious to hear what you have to say, because your Scorpio observations have been excellent so far!

"It's so fake and a major turn-off."

Fake is the key word. The male scorps I know (happen to be Nov ones) are some of the most fake people I know. I think once you know this about someone, you can adjust accordingly, but me being a very real Aries, it's tough for me to relate.

Posted by ramfishtwins
"It's so fake and a major turn-off."

Fake is the key word. The male scorps I know (happen to be Nov ones) are some of the most fake people I know. I think once you know this about someone, you can adjust accordingly, but me being a very real Aries, it's tough for me to relate.

TRUE DAT. I have a lot of Sagittarius in my chart, so this is incredibly off-putting to me too. I attract these guys like crazy, but now they just come off as repulsive to me. Sometimes I have to keep my mouth in check, so that I don't start calling them out on their bullsh*t. *Sighs* My patience is wearing thin with age.

Posted by eden 3
birthday nov 16th lots of scorp in my chart = absolutely nothing as described above...

I get respect from others cuz I respect myself

seek approval from others? neva, don't need or want justification or permission or approval from anyone but myself.

an ego *shrugs* I don't have one they r useless. if u place urself above someone without knowledge of why u should be there...it truly is to no avail, that most place below me is due to thier own lacking...typically spiritualy but there is much more that feeds an ugly soul...all of which I want no part of.

I choose my friends very carefully & keep them forever...why should I not place importance on who someone is deep inside. I have higher standards set for myself than others & I am self made...I will not expect less from others.

whiny? neva...just truthful...if u can't take truth about urself that is a problem within u.

what this sounds lk to me is some scorps made some people face who THEY truly r and those few ended up disappointed in themselves enough to project thier self loathing onto this particular sign...

to them I say search within urself to find what u need for happiness do not place blame on those that make u bitter by being capable of doing so.

ur problems with others r ur own fix urselves & be happy

projection of ur horrible attributes onto others is a soul killer.

namaste'

You're absolutely right about not stereotyping, eden 3. You have to realize that we're discussing unevolved Scorpios though. I have a Scorpio friend (eagle) born in early November and he is one of the most real people I know - He is one my idols. I'm not afraid about facing the truth about myself; the lower Scorpio men who liked me ran away from me because they couldn't handle the fact that I call a spade a spade (pretty cowardly). I scared them sh*tless because they knew I could see through them, and my actions showed it. I'm not a bitter individual at all, I just have no respect for fakeness. It's a hindrance that prevents a person from achieving his or her maximum potential in life.

Oh my god yes! They are like the most boring people I know. Fire and air is where it's at!

Cancers are the only interesting ones because they are nuts!

Posted by brynmor
as for feb pisces i tend to share a nice intellectual sense with. my ideas are usually more "out there" while pisces are more "down to earth/by the book" sort of deal. something I really need to learn from them.

I'm all over the map. One day I'm Miss Practicality, the another day I'm in La La Land, but I get bored really easily and like to mix things up in my life to keep it exciting. I don't know many Geminis (the ones I do are born in early June), but I do enjoy their company a lot because they have a similar life outlook and understand what it's like to have a dualistic nature. I don't think Geminis get enough credit for their depth. They are made to out to be flighty, but they're cunning because they don't let people know what's going on in their minds. They'll often play naive in a situation, but have a very good idea of what's going on - I can relate well to this as a Pisces because people assume that I'm some sort of space cadet just because I come across as cute and innocent, when I'm anything but in reality. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't change a thing... It's a master disguise, eh? 😉

In this thread you mention IMMATURE scorpio so I think that is the key phrase here, my bday is Nov 14 and those behaviors you describe does not relate to me or many other fellow scorpios I KNOW. also any sign can be IMMATURE and display this behavior.

Posted by brynmor
just to clearify:

"It is not wrong to fall, what is wrong is to stay fallen. You can rise up, stronger then ever before."

EXACTLY. Unevolved Scorpios can't accept the fact that they're human and fall, and their inability to admit that they have any weaknesses IS their greatest weakness. If you can't lose graciously (and EVERYBODY loses at one time or another), then you are severely insecure - At the end of the day, if you really are comfortable in yourself, then losing/making a mistake isn't going to make or break you. The only way a person learns is from making mistakes, acknowledging them, and learning from them. If you refuse to acknowledge that you make mistakes, than you are a two-year old throwing a temper tantrum and getting absolutely nowhere in life.

Posted by brynmor
just to clearify:

"It is not wrong to fall, what is wrong is to stay fallen. You can rise up, stronger then ever before."

This quote is perfect for this thread, because we are discussing unevolved Scorpios - a Scorpio evolves when he literally destroys himself and rises up again (in order to rise again, the Scorpio has no choice but to acknowledge the error of his old ways, and to correct it). This quote summarizes Scorpionic evolution.

Posted by Mr Nice
Weird~Fishes, you must be another inferior person, I think you have ocd like dimino you both have an obsession for scorpios. If you don't like us stay on your side and we will stay on ares but you won't, because your both jealous.

Wow. What a rational response. Why don't we just plug up our ears now and chant "I can't hear you"? Because that's what this discussion has been reduced to. You continue to delude yourself thinking you're some sort of god, and get back to me when life proves you wrong.

teh evolution of teh scorpio iz srs bsns

Posted by Weird~Fishes

Posted by ramfishtwins
"It's so fake and a major turn-off."

Fake is the key word. The male scorps I know (happen to be Nov ones) are some of the most fake people I know. I think once you know this about someone, you can adjust accordingly, but me being a very real Aries, it's tough for me to relate.

TRUE DAT. I have a lot of Sagittarius in my chart, so this is incredibly off-putting to me too. I attract these guys like crazy, but now they just come off as repulsive to me. Sometimes I have to keep my mouth in check, so that I don't start calling them out on their bullsh*t. *Sighs* My patience is wearing thin with age.

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I seem to attract them too! I think it's cause they like strong women.
There are many things to love about a male scorp, but I see now more than ever their bad often out weighs their good. I've read that they enjoy being called on their bullshit, so call away! The scorp guys I know seem to be able to handle it well. I'm not a bullshitter though...tell it very straight, so it's hard for me to put up with.

What is this word you call "patience"??!! LOL!

"I cannot stress this enough, scorpio and aries are pretty much the same f**king sign! Inappropriately melodramatic in their interactions with others and so much unnecessary ego they could do without. I just find the latter sign more interesting and their faults more Bambi Beautiful."

This is scary true...I've thought about this before, but not recently until you just brought it up!

Mah Gad...this thread is enlightening (except for this person who was having some tantrums)...

The Scorpio I am pining over is Nov 17th. Let me see how this one pans out...still on limbo with mine...but it is vacation time...so maybe Santa will be kind to me this year and a miracle may happen....

Merry Christmas, Everyone!

Posted by seavixen2
I have never come across an immature Scorpio man as you described weird fishes. I actually find it odd that you being a Pisces, would have such an -off kilter perception of our water mate...in fact, I think you and Brynmoor are so off base, that it is comical! But alas, tis not my job to enlighten you. You see, you have barely any replies (and if you think the replies you have gotten are mean, and attacking- boohoo hardly) and why is that? Because Scorpio is not going to stoop down to your level and bother to go back and forth with someone to define who they are or give you a fucking blueprint to who they are. Face it, you got your ass stung and discarded and now you are bitter. You want to vent, so you posted your faux analytical psycho-babble on here. Hey..if you and Brynmoor have it all figured out..write a book and see how many you sell...make sure you label it FICTION tho.

You're entitled to your opinion, but if there is one thing this thread (and the majority of other Scorp threads) has proven true, it's that immature Scorps will not admit their weaknesses or give away their secrets. So quite frankly, I'm not concerned that this thread has received "barely any replies". I don't have a whole herd of responders... So what? It doesn't mean sh*t - it's about quality of the responses, and not the quantity, anyway. In fact, I take it as a good sign that I have few Scorpio replies, because it probably means that I have accurately called them out on their bullsh*t and they don't want to admit their weaknesses by acknowledging my post and replying to it. For the few Scorpios that have INTELLIGENTLY replied, they are not unevolved and are REAL individuals. I could very well be off kilter in my perceptions, but the fact of the matter is that there are plenty of people who know exactly what I'm talking about, both here and on other astrology forums I'm part of. I've had Scorpios on these forums tell me I'm so on target in my understanding of them it's SCARY - My Scorpio friend (eagle) has called me "psychic" multiple times for predicting his thoughts and reading the meaning behind his and other people's actions.

Posted by seavixen2
I have never come across an immature Scorpio man as you described weird fishes. I actually find it odd that you being a Pisces, would have such an -off kilter perception of our water mate...in fact, I think you and Brynmoor are so off base, that it is comical! But alas, tis not my job to enlighten you. You see, you have barely any replies (and if you think the replies you have gotten are mean, and attacking- boohoo hardly) and why is that? Because Scorpio is not going to stoop down to your level and bother to go back and forth with someone to define who they are or give you a fucking blueprint to who they are. Face it, you got your ass stung and discarded and now you are bitter. You want to vent, so you posted your faux analytical psycho-babble on here. Hey..if you and Brynmoor have it all figured out..write a book and see how many you sell...make sure you label it FICTION tho.

If others understand and can relate to what I'm talking about, then there must some element of truth behind it. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I get the sense that you're just acting like a typical Pisces people-pleaser, most likely because a Scorpio has you under his or her thumb. And I wouldn't quite say I'm "bitter", either - You're just trying to get a rise out of me here, but I see through your emotional manipulation tactic, and won't give you that satisfaction... I don't waste my energy on kiss-as*es who don't know how to defend themselves, and have to suck up to others so that they have someone to come to their rescue.

Very insightful. I also have had some of the same observations on Scorpios. I just wonder what is it that makes them to evolve. I know 2 evolved one male one female and for as long as I've known them they've always been that way. Then another two unevolved also male and female and they fit everything in here exactly.

Posted by Hypnotic—
I don't give two shits bout this thread..
as long as..
Gingerscorp is considered as an exception..

I'm trying to be loyal 😄

😄

I actually found the whole thing to be most amusing. 😉 I've said it before... you don't like the way Scorps are ... oooooooohhhhh well. I'm sure once we cry our eyes out we've lost yet another adoring fan we'll get over it 😉 There's no need to feed our already over blown ego by making a fuss of it and showing us how much we REALLY get to you. 😛


Just saying 😄

Copying is a water thing. What happens to water when you pour it into something? It takes the shape. I'm not defending those "stealers" cause I know what you're taking about. Cancers do it far more, it's shameless.

normalisboring:

"I don't know about animosity ... The ones i've met have been boring with nothing to offer conversation or idea wise, which is why I'm here confirming what the OP says

Again, beside the thread I made myself, I post about most scorps in general with a "bleh" attitude. I'm calling it like i've seen it - i've known scorps who need weaker people around them to feel strong, i've known scorps who follow mass opinion while promoting an image of independence. I've known arrogant scorps who uphold this facade when they aren't happy with their lives."

Look, I'm not here to attack and accuse ALL Scorpios of doing the above. From the young, twenty-something cross section of unevolved Scorps I've met, I've observed most of them to project a false image though. Why do I care? I find it hypocritical when one of these Scorps makes a concentrated effort to present him/herself as the most independent, counter-cultural person on the planet, and then totally copies pop culture trends. Let me make it clear that I have absolutely NOTHING against pop culture and enjoy it very much - what I find annoying about these PARTICULAR Scorpios is that they present themselves like they're this "never before seen product", but in reality they're a carbon-copy of manufactured cultural trends. They promote themselves like they're the newest and best thing out there, but in reality, it's all false advertisement.

I respect people who people who present themselves as they really are... I won't discriminate against if you are boring as hell, but just don't come up to me and tell me you're the most fun person walking the face of the earth. Putting on fronts screams insincerity. Nobody enjoys feeling like a person is being insincere with him or her - It fosters mistrust and leads to a lack of respect for that person. If you want people to trust and respect you, then don't BLATANTLY front.

This leads back into the whole "unevolved Scorpios are attracted to, yet avoid interacting with people who they perceive as 'superior'" point I was getting at earlier. These Scorpios want to use these people for the IMAGE they have to offer, but can't sustain relationships with them because they make them feel insecure and self-conscious (reminds them that they are "fronting" and aren't what they present themselves to be)... How do you think it feels to be one of these people on the other end though? Picture someone walking up to you, pretending like they have all these common interests as you, acting like they really admire you and want to get chummy with you. Then after they get your attention, they completely blow you off. Quite frankly, I could give a sh*t less if you want to be my pal or not, but don't come up to me, waste my time and feed me a load of bullsh*t just to get "in" with me. If you want real interpersonal relationships, first you have to be an authentic person yourself. Go and "use" someone else, or stop fronting and interact with people for purposes other than your own FALSe, inflated self-image.

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Posted by normalisboring
I've nothing to prove, Eden, other scorps.

As for being bitter I will say this again I haven't been stung by scorp.

I thought this thread was about how UNEVOLVED scorps steal ideas and act like the ideas are their own? Why are people who feel they are eagles (not addressing you FWB ... your initials could also mean friends with benefits lol) replying to this maliciously, anyway?

Eagles like to peck things then fly off ?
(the fwb acronym seemed really funny at the time to me 😛)

It all comes back to stuff mentioned and shows there's a lot of truth in what the OP said. If you were truly confident, replies would've gone differently.

I'm not saying your way of reacting to negative posts about the sign scorpio is wrong, by the way. I'm saying it only proves the posters right.

I dunno, I want to hear the o.p elaborate more on what originality is, although the mention of scene kids kinda points towards someone whose pissed off, but has common sense.

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Like I said before, I don't believe there is such thing as total originality, because people are always borrowing old ideas to make something new out of them (plus, sometimes there is just no way of tracing back who/what/where an old idea originated from). "Recycling" ideas is all a part of coming up with an original idea. However, I think that in order for recycled ideas/trends/whatever to be original, there needs to be at least some sort of new, unconventional element to them. Here's a simple example of what I'm talking about: Come up with a new metaphor for love that isn't the typical, cliched, over-romanticized understanding of love. Compare love to something that it never has been compared to before... you can use some stereotypical notions of love, but do something different than everyone else has, add a new twist to love that hasn't been added before. In my opinion, originality is all about this TWIST.

If you believe in reincarnation, Scorpio is further down the line of older souls than others. I find the middle age and older scorpio to be very wise. They have done a lot of soul searching. The holier-than-thou thing we tend to have is more prevalent in older age. I find others stupid mistakes irritating....because we have already grown w/ that wisdom. We tend to not make the same mistakes over and over.

Maybe the person who started this thread just came across a very immature person. I bet if you hunt that same person down in 15 years, they would be a totally different person. I've always heard that when a scorpio comes across your path, you are destined for change yourself.

daaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnnnn this thread has 18 pages, wtf do u scorpios do to ppl?

Posted by Mr Nice
Domino and all the other morons who have proved me right you know nothing, steal other peoples ideas? what are you talking about? Why are we fake? what did we ever do to you? seavixen2, domino, any other morons who claims to know how we scorp's really are, thanks for the input but don't leave your day jobs. Have some respect, Domino all your good for is trying to make trouble on this site you really are peridictable, and your still here, you said you were leaving now who is really the fake one domino? o I forgot it was a cry for help was'nt it? are all gem's like this? maybe its the undeveloped ones like yourself. I will bite back, I am allowed to defend my sign just because you don't like it tuff (I think you get off on winding people up) that don't make me a bad person or vindictive I'll leave that to geminis and any other moron. there you go domino theres your hot potato make sure you catch it sucker.

and this is a prime example of when astrology goes wrong..............

I'm just surprised at how far this bickering has went and how some of these people haven't figured out who has been propelling the conflict.

Oh and anyone can appear to others as "fake" it doesn't matter what their sign is. It depends on their personality if anything but of course if people just applied "common sense" every once in a while in their lives then this wouldn't be a problem.

yes i have, mr. nice could also tell you how immature some can be right mr. nice?

Some people just want to misunderstand everything you say.. Some people want to create drama from nothing.. Do not care Seavixen 🙂

Who cares about Gemini's?

This is about Scorpios .. if you all cared about Gemini's, you would be going to their board, rather than them coming to Scorpio board.



As for Scorpios ... I've only noticed the young ones acting immature. I find it especially funny that a Pisces says this, when taking into consideration that immaturity is measured by emotional weakness.

Posted by seavixen2
thanks sweet & sour...that is an achilles heel of mine, caring what people think, I don't know why..I hate that about me.

Don't worry sweetie, I think he already told that he wasn't attacking on you.. Maybe just misunderstood you 🙂

I think there are immature people in all signs. I know many Scorpios and only a few of them are immature.

Mr. Nice: you probably mean Martin Luther (born Nov 10) because Martin Luther King Jr. was a Capricorn (born Jan 15)..

Posted by Weird~Fishes
They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

may be you r right. but the scorpios that i know are very creative and sharp minded. i have read that there is hardly anyone who is not inspired by a scorpio, and i beleive thats true.

Posted by Weird~Fishes
They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

i think your talking about Virgo's because i'm a scorpio and when ever i'm going something different from everyone else, my friend who is a virgo is always trying to do the same thing i'm doing and she makes it pretty obvious . I've also heard that scorpios are very eccentric and original so i don't know what your talking abot. Only when i am sulking is when i'm immature or when my feelings are hurt, other than that most scorpios i've seen are very hard workers and usually very intelligent. scorpios are immature in the sense that I like to joke around with. They are blunt, funny & make cute and corny jokes, too. Scorpio??s are usually mature for their age even as children. They can talk to adults and people their own age and it will feel natural in either setting........so yeah i think your talking about virgo's and pisces are also the one who are fake.

Posted by Weird~Fishes
They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

i think your talking about Virgo's because i'm a scorpio and when ever i'm going something different from everyone else, my friend who is a virgo is always trying to do the same thing i'm doing and she makes it pretty obvious . I've also heard that scorpios are very eccentric and original so i don't know what your talking about. Only when i am sulking is when i'm immature or when my feelings are hurt, other than that most scorpios i've seen are very hard workers and usually very intelligent. scorpios are immature in the sense that I like to joke around with. They are blunt, funny & make cute and corny jokes, too. Scorpio??s are usually mature for their age even as children. They can talk to adults and people their own age and it will feel natural in either setting........so yeah i think your talking about virgo's and pisces are also the one who are fake.

Posted by Weird~Fishes
They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

i think your talking about Virgo's because i'm a scorpio and when ever i'm going something different from everyone else, my friend who is a virgo is always trying to do the same thing i'm doing and she makes it pretty obvious . I've also heard that scorpios are very eccentric and original so i don't know what your talking about. Only when i am sulking is when i'm immature or when my feelings are hurt, other than that most scorpios i've seen are very hard workers and usually very intelligent. scorpios are immature in the sense that I like to joke around with. They are blunt, funny & make cute and corny jokes, too. Scorpio??s are usually mature for their age even as children. They can talk to adults and people their own age and it will feel natural in either setting........so yeah i think your talking about virgo's and pisces are also the one who are fake.

Posted by Weird~Fishes
They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

i think your talking about Virgo's because i'm a scorpio and when ever i'm going something different from everyone else, my friend who is a virgo is always trying to do the same thing i'm doing and she makes it pretty obvious . I've also heard that scorpios are very eccentric and original so i don't know what your talking about. Only when i am sulking is when i'm immature or when my feelings are hurt, other than that most scorpios i've seen are very hard workers and usually very intelligent. scorpios are immature in the sense that I like to joke around with. They are blunt, funny & make cute and corny jokes, too. Scorpio??s are usually mature for their age even as children. They can talk to adults and people their own age and it will feel natural in either setting........so yeah i think your talking about virgo's and pisces are also the one who are fake.

Posted by Weird~Fishes
They never come up with original ideas of their own. It's like they're always copying another person's (to the point where it's obvious). Yet they still strut around like they're the most original people to walk the planet, and expect people to be impressed... It's so fake and a major turn-off.

What are your experiences? Do you think it's done out of insecurity, or what?

lol...there are a couple here that do EXACTLY that mimic my expressions, words etc.. for some time now. It's a very weak type of plagiarism and speaks volumes of character.

Posted by Weird~Fishes
Another thing I've noticed about these unevolved Scorpios - they will often gravitate towards original people (I guess it might be an attraction based on "these people have what I want"), but they use them only for purposes of self image. They're not interested in pursuing real friendships with them. They can only be friends with people are "equal to" or "below" them, because these people pose no threat when it comes to calling them out on their false image, and also because it makes them feel good about themselves (think big fish in a small pond syndrome).

Lower Scorpios cannot stand on their own without their friends around them, because they define themselves by their friends' perceptions of them. This is why they often overcompensate in the social arena, because they don't know who they really are without their peers around them. They are simultaneously attracted to "real" individuals and repelled by them, because it stirs in them an acute awareness that they are not truly authentic, and that their ego is externally manufactured.

Boy did you NAIL this! Excellent observations.