Has the thought ever crossed your mind .........

.... that the reason why your man fucks other women is because you're a lousy piece of ass?

How Stupid. If your woman is a "lousy piece of ass", then break up with her or divorce her, whatever your situation may be.

Nothing dumber than staying in a relationship with someone you aren't happy with and then breaking her heart by fucking around with other women behind her back.

It's a pretty simply solution, dummy, just break up with her and stay single if you plan on "fucking around" with a bunch of different women.

This whole "justifying" cheating in relationships really gets under my skin.

Women think that jsut because they have a vagina ... that this is the only requirement.


Maybe you're just crappy at giving head ... and he's not interested in forming a life-time partnerhsip with you, so he's out looking around.



Afterall .... you used your sexual promises to get him in the first place .. so, why be so surprised now, and hurt that it's sex with other women he is after?


That is the kind of man you snared when you used sex to seduce him.


If you wanted a nice man, then sex wouldn't have been a part of the equation in the getting.

No I havent wondered that because some men are just born wankers...who aren't satisfied with just one pussy!!!

aS Happy sxorpio said ones looking for pussy elsewhere without breaking up are cowards

Blessed be the day u find out he is cheating so you can ditch his sorry ass and be with someone who truly respects you.

I find the responses rather funny, actually.


They agree with Happy, when he makes assertion that if she isn't good at fucking him, then he should leave her ... and then expands on his thoughts by saying if a man doesn't regard his woman on a respectful level, sex not part of the equation, then he's a tosser ..


.. yet, Happy actually agreed with me when I insinuated that if she's a lousy fuck, then to the curb she goes and another vagina would be sought ..


"How Stupid. If your woman is a "lousy piece of ass", then break up with her or divorce her, whatever your situation may be."



.... if your woman is lousy piece of ass, then break up with her

Do you ever read the posts the same way as 99% of the people do?

"Nothing dumber than staying in a relationship with someone you aren't happy with and then breaking her heart by fucking around with other women behind her back."



Over the past couple days, I've heard several women in here saying soemthing to the effect of ... I'm not having sex with the man until after marriage .....


Would it be safe to assume that if a man doesn't think the woman is a good fuck, then he isn't going to be happy .. and if he is a respectful man then he should tell her this just before breaking up with her to look for a good-vagina woman so he can be happy?

Other things don't really matter, do they?

To women, yes .. but, to men, being a good fuck is what matters .. because how stupid it would be to stay in a relatinship if the fuck was lousy?



So, back to my original question to ladies out there .... has the thought ever crossed your mind that the reason why he cheats is because you are a lousy piece of ass?

Yeah, I read them the way other people do, Missy .... but, I don't stop there as if only one interpretation exists.

For the most part, people have an expectation of what they want something to be .. this includes nearly everything in life ... so, once they have found a similarity to match their expectation, they pretty much look no further for any other possible meaning.


That is in error .... because it is making the assumption that there is only one answer, when in reality, reality is infinite.

Posted by P-Angel
Yeah, I read them the way other people do, Missy .... but, I don't stop there as if only one interpretation exists.

Hmmmm....

P-Angel putting words into my mouth.

What you didn't "get" from my post is that i'm being hard on the MAN, not the Woman. Men who mess around behind their partner's back are scumbags, and what i'm saying is that these scumbags need to learn that "cheating" is unacceptable, and if they are no longer satisfied in their relationship, they should get out of it. I'm not defending the men at all.

My point is, don't ever cheat on your woman (or vice versa) just because you're unhappy in the relationship for whatever reason. If you want to have sex with another woman while in a relationship, either suck it up and stay faithful or break up with your partner, which is obviously a better solution than cheating on her behind her back only for her to find this out later on and then wind up heartbroken.

People just need to start being honest. If a man or woman isn't satisfied with their relationship, quit hiding it and just end it already.

"What you didn't "get" from my post .."



Oh, I "got" what you said .... did you ever "get" what I was saying?

Posted by Prince_Pisces
I LOL'ed.

no wai! me too! *hi 5*

Nope, you put your own words into your mouth ... and then wrote them out in here for people to interpret and comment on.


Are you stupid like Fum and Moon_eyes, and don't know that? ^^^^^



And yet, nobody can answer the question, can they?

They can talk about happiness, respect, faithfulness and "other" things that are irrelevant to the question ... but cannot answer the question.



How many people out there ............ honestly ............. will stay with a partner if sex is horrid?


If your sex life with a person sucks bigtime, if s/he is a lousy fucking piece of ass ..... you're out.


I don't care how good they cook, how much money they make, how good your house gets cleaned, how fast thier car is .... if the person cannot sex you up to your satisfaction ... the relatinship is finished.


Unless you are a prostitute, of course.


In other words ...... if you're a lousy piece of ass, then the other person is out catting around, looking for different ass.


why is that so hard to admit?


Is everybody living in a dream-world or summat?


Let's hear ... how many people in here are getting a crappy dick, or pussy ... but, are electing to "stay" with this person because they are nice?


Nice, oh so nice .. but, can't sex you up worth a fuck .... you've left this person high and dry, fucking ages ago and off looking for other dick .. and you left them BECAUSE they were a lousy piece of ass ... so, don't lie because we all know it's a lie.

Face it ...... if you are a lousy piece of ass, then your partner is out finding some, no matter how good you are in other areas of your life .... and if you don't believe that then you are a fool.

did you ever "get" what I was saying?

Yeah, you insulting me by claiming that my intentions in my post were that of defending the man.

I know exactly what I meant and you don't. You just didn't like that I made you look like a fool so you decided to twist around my words and make me out to be the bad guy out of spite.


Nope, you put your own words into your mouth ... and then wrote them out in here for people to interpret and comment on.

Not really my fault if you couldn't interpret what I meant. I had only good intentions with what I was saying, where as you didn't. I actually have Morals, Integrity and Self-Respect. Something i'm sure you don't, since you seem to justify men cheating on women if they are "a lousy piece of ass". It's almost like your intentions with this topic were "Women, you get what you deserve if you're lousy at sex"

Posted by missmorals
Do you ever read the posts the same way as 99% of the people do?

Applaud you, Missie...

****************


Happy Scorpio --

This woman is NUTS! She needs therapy. Her intention of the thread is obvious -- She is a trouble maker.

She lives in a make-believe world for herself. She doesn't READ and she doesn't want to HEAR what you or all the others are telling.

this is funny...i actually agree with P...a lot of people are in relationships where the sex sucks but they choose to stay for other reasons....i myself can't do that becuz sex is too important for me but some people can overlook it...i talk to people all the time who are having lousy sex at home and they wind up cheating, it happens all the time.

Sex can deteriorate within the relationship over time, if this is the case some choose to stay for other reasons, while others will cheat if someone more exciting comes there way. I personally think it depends on whether the person is a cheater or not!


In the beginning of a relationship, if the sex aint great I dont know that many would stay for the long haul... It's bound to effect other areas particularly the desire to be with that person...It'd suck if you of the belief of NO SEX until marriage and then found they were lousy in bed!!!

"Yeah, you insulting me by claiming that my intentions in my post were that of defending the man.

I know exactly what I meant and you don't. You just didn't like that I made you look like a fool so you decided to twist around my words and make me out to be the bad guy out of spite."




Happy, don't be an idiot .... I never """claimed""" anything of the sort. I said that you validated my insinuation by when I mention the word "sex", as it pertains to relationships and the man leaving ... you equated the word "happy" with it.


Satori, this is the truth ... that's why I rebel against women who "use" sexual seductions to get the man .. because inevitably, they are going to be in here crying because the man just took the kitty and has no respect for them.

The man is going measure her sexually, and whether she can keep him .. and if not, if she can't measure up to what she led him to believe then he's out, cheating with whatever woman can keep her promise that she's a sex goddess.

And women .. they measure their womanhood by whether they can keep their man out of other woman's bed.


So sad .......

a cheater wouldnt know the difference between good nookie and bad nookie...they just want to screw...so i wouldnt think that i was lousy if he cheated i would just think hes a hoe

i do hear a lot of woman when they meet a guy....ooooo he was so nice to me until we had sex now he wont call me anymore....so i dont know...maybe the ass was lousy

P-Angel: ...the reason why your man fucks other women is because you're a lousy piece of ass?

The Cheaters I've known over the years were the ones with issues - not their spouses...

Most were immature, ego-centric, swinging dick Cowards. A Real Man who wants to fuck around won't marry. A married Man who wants to fuck around will divorce. Big Boys want to have the comfort & security of a haus frau, and yet have mindless fucking with any woman who'll spread their legs for them...

... and unfortunately, many women will fuck a married guy.

THAT'S the real mystery to me!

I can speak from experience: I got hit on more often wearing my wedding band than not.

no wai! me too! *hi 5*


Me three LOL!!! ------> @ Zena and PP lol

Satori - Loved your post. You said it so well... 🙂

P-Angel - I can't deny what you're saying, I've dumped a guy before because we were seriously not compatible sexually. And honestly, when it's that bad, you know it's only going to cause problems in the future - so there's no point continuing. All it means is that there's someone better suited for both of you out there...That's how I choose to view it anyway 🙂 And yes, women who use the kitty as a tool of manipulation are IDIOTS!!!

P-Angel why do you always come out as bitter and angry all the time... Maybe it's just my observatiobs. Hmmm—

It's a different viewpoint apparantly that the rest of us mortals aren't really capable of picking up.

I can see we all have a sensitivity to what P-Angel is saying but as for what she and Satori are discussing here, I have to agree 100% .

Women on this board, do not take this to heart... I realize not all women are like this... every situation is different...

Typically, from my observations many women do project an "image" in order to secure a place in a man's life. I have a few friends that are divorced after 7-15 years of marriage. Not all of them married young. When speaking with the men, it may have sounded like the most shallow crap ever, however I always got the same response...

The sex was amazing before we married and then after that ring and ceremony, it all went down the crapper. It's like she changed. She was always sexual and adventurous when we dated, with loving promises of grandeur for our entire lives in the name of marriage. The wedding was female focused, but I supported it all being about her and her day. At the end of it all... I looked forward to a passionate honeymoon and love life. Where did it go? Some of the now ex-wives even had the nerve to tell these men to get used to it because now that they were married, regular sex was unneeded or barely-existent except procreation.

Now let's be realistic here please. When a couple takes their vows, as part of it ... they agree to all that those vows encompass. Yes life and love can change over time, but one thing will always remain the same... MEN NEED SEX. Men not only do things for a woman to show them they love them, but also express love through sex... it forms the bond for them and lets them know they are appreciated. I am telling you now, if he's not getting sex on a REGULAR basis (and no, I don't mean once a month or 5 times a year), resentment will build and compound... and a man will feel unloved. I know to many women this seems selfish and disgusting behavior, but hear me out...

Women have expectations of love, emotional support, respect...
Men have expectations of sex, love and respect/appreciation for the things they do...

If you promise/use or even withhold sex to try an control a man, you're eventually going to lose him bottom line. It may not be today or next week, but it will happen. I know this hurts a lot of your feelings. When a man gets tired of begging or jumping through hoops for that connection, he will begin looking elsewhere. This is because they have needs too. Just different ones than us women to get to that same bonding place that we value so much.

It is unfortunate in our species that monogamy and fidelity are concepts created by man/state/religion to keep order, enable benefits, bestow proper names and to give us a moral code that sets us apart from the animals. In their species there is rarely, if ever such a thing.

I know many women are now thinking, how selfishly shallow of men to think that the only thing that matters is sex!?! Reality... sex gets less passionate, sex wanes...but it does still exist and is crucially needed for a healthy relationship. Especially for men, sorry ladies...just the way it is.

Bear with me here. Let's say as a woman, you were not getting the emotional need/support from a man...would you not feel loved, appreciated and clearly taken advantage of, even if married? It is unfair of us to entitle ourselves to all the things that allow us to feel deeply loved in a relationship and yet deny equality in marriage to men simply because his basic need to express love is different from ours. A ring, wedding and vows do not entitle us to control our husbands. It's downright selfish.

Many families also have children. Women can attest it takes quite a bit to raise them and make sure they are cared for. Sometimes this makes them forget about the basic bond when they promised to love, honor and cherish at the wedding. Remember that lesson when the flight takes off from the runway? "Please ensure that your mask is securely fastened BEFORE trying to assist other passengers, including small children." Same in marriage, put your spouse first after yourself. Without nurturing that precious bond first, all else will fail and YES THIS MEANS SEX TOO.

As a woman, it's taken life's lessons and observations to realize, that in order to have the right man in your life, you can only be yourself and not what you think he wants you to be. If your sexual great, if your not great...just don't promise what you are unwilling to deliver once you have a commitment for life and above all do not use excuses to justify it.

Lastly, to address the reasons or morality behind cheating and the anger it causes... We as with any animals are not meant for monogamy. This is reality people and it sucks yes, but ignoring this factor will not make it go away. When people take vows we can only hope that each side is willing to keep their part of the commitment that allowed the marriage to happen in the first place.

When either side is denying basic rights as set forth on the day you took the vows, you are violating the contract you agreed to for the rest of your life with your spouse. Sex is not a privilege, it is a fundamental right as part of this contract that you opened your mouth in front of family and God (for some of you) and said "I do" to.

Humans are only that... human. No one in this world is perfect and regardless of religion, moral codes, expectations... Who are we to place our moral expectations on others and judge the reasons they act or do the things they do?

Marriage without sex is a sham. It's simply two roommates or friends living together acting like it's real for the benefit of doing what's socially expected and acceptable.

P-Angel. I may not always be in agreement with you and that is as it is with anyone in life. However, I do commend you for being honest, realistic and truthful in the raw way you presented your question. Sometimes reality is a slap in the face and in order to protect ourselves... we argue, judge, divert, deny and suppress. But the big white elephant is still going to be there.

Sagi and Satori... agreed I need it too to feel the emotional and loving bond. However, women should not present themselves as a overly sexual animals to bait and then switch after marriage and commitments. I believe that is the point here.

Everyone is looking for someone compatible to us in many ways. Everyone deserves to be happy!

Women and men should not be out there pretending to get what they want. It's selfish, narcissistic and embarrassing for both genders.

LOL nitpick...I'm a Virgo... it's my middle name... no apologies !! 😉

i usually go the other way around lol


LOL!!! I agree both men and women do stuff to trap people. Thats really burns my butt!!! lol.

My ex-scorpio did that to me (although we were young). He was one way before we got into a relation then BANG, totally different guy. Same with my recent involvement, this ex-virgo was one way before the relationship, and another way after it began ...


Oh oops, I guess I'm not really talking sex here ... I'm speaking of other things lol.

tondalea: Men not only do things for a woman to show them they love them, but also express love through sex... it forms the bond for them and lets them know they are appreciated.

Yes! Men aren't always good with words, but we can show you how we feel, and that's where the truth can be found, too.

Also, grown men understand that when you open your bodies up to us, you're giving us all that you are, all that you have - and we don't take that for granted. Which is why a grown man will try to make the experience as pleasurable for you as it is for him...

About "lousy lays" after marriage: Assuming that she doesn't have some physical or emotional issue, that would tell me my wife no longer loves me, and I'd be talking to a divorce lawyer...

p-angel: didn't read the thread but i LOVE your theory and agree completely wholeheartedly. if someone is truly in love - they don't fuck someone else - end of story.

even kissing someone else which i believe in some ways to be more intimate than sex even.

if you have who you want - why on earth look elsewhere??