how many times do i have to tell you to fuck off

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fuck you and goodbye

last night i was at a bar celebrating my aries bff's birthday. we were having a freaking blast! scorp dude was there and tbh i hadnt been paying any attention to him. till i noticed he had circled me and was popping up in different places around the bar where i was. i was focused talking to other friends and i went inside to started talking to my aries friend.

on the way inside, guess who made contact with me. scorpio. he kept pulling at my arm to get me to stop and notice him. i didnt stop and kept it moving.

what i didnt know is that my virgo friend saw what he was doing and told him to cut the shit out. dmv is done with you and is having a good time. leave her alone! scorpio told her, naw man watch imma get her to buy me a drink, shes got money. shes going to buy me a bottle. virgo told him your full of shit. your trying to talk to her and inch your way back in because shes finally done, isnt talking to your ass anymore, and is having a good time. your jealous and u want her to talk to you. scorpio left her and came back into the bar. **i didnt know any of this till i left the bar and virgo walked me out to my car**

i was sitting with my aries bff eating cake and he came up right behind us. AGAIN, he kept sublty pulling on my arm and calling my name really softly trying to get me to turn around and acknowledge him. i acted like i didnt even notice. then my aries friend turns around and asks him what he wants. he says he wants a piece of bday cake. while she preparing his slice, i hear him say "dmv, buy a bottle." i completely ignored his ass. he ate his cake standing right behind me and then finally left.

me and my aries friend looked at me and gave each other a look like. what the fuck ever dude.

fuck you and good bye.
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Does he know about your new Pisces bf? Maybe if he knows you've moved on and you're happy with another guy now, he'll leave you alone (hopefully).



yep he knows. ive just moved on. why the hell cant he? does he think im still playing a game with him? cause im not.



That's just how some Scorps are, they can get stalkerish 😢 They like to leave on their own terms too.
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yeah hes turning into a total stalker.
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What the heck!! Buy him a bottle...little broke ass scrub. I dont even buy a man a drink when we are going out.
So after you've been a clown he wants a drink and attention. Girl it sounded like you sent him back to the circus.
Serve him right...he mistook your kindness for weakness b4.



exactamuendo.

if he confused as to why im not speaking to him, he can go back and rewind the tapes to the part where he told my virgo friend that he was only using me for this and that, how im psycho and how i meant nothing to him. he has no one to blame but himself. his intentions are so skewed its sad and his behavior is pathetic.

i hope he finds happiness but it aint going to be with me. i dont want him as a friend or anything remotely close to it.



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im still unclear as to what your getting at.

he told me to fuck off and i did. he trashed me and dogged me out. told my friends that i meant nothing to him, he was only using me, that im crazy, and that he wants nothing to do with me, he wants me to leave him alone. and thats exactly what i did. i got sick of him and the back and forth. the rollercoaster. i told him that i wish i never met him and i still believe that.

i owe him nothing. no talk. no nothing.

at the beginning of the year when i got back from vacation, he ignored me for weeks! he didnt think that he owed me any explanation. but being the person that i am, i reached out to him. wanted to talk to him, talk things out. but nope. he told me to fuck off in a way that no one deserves to be talked to like that.

im done with him and his games. he can go find another sucker.
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Well fair play, no-one deserves to be cussed out multiple times, but look at where you said 'reach out to him'.
Like after the first time you should've made it known you want nothing to do with him and to fuck right off etc, etc even if he was spreading shit about you, so what ?
You say what's up with your side of things and let the gossips etc go fuck themselves if they take his side over yours (for lack of a better term).
Not trying to be cruel but that was the moment you owed to yourself to tell him where to jump off.
Otherwise things like theis draw out more and more as you're experiencing now.
Seriously, just find a big cunt of a friend to come along while you finalise it or if it's too much let him do it on your behalf otherwise he'll keep sleazing around possibly, or at least coming for a sniff when you think you've seen the last of him.



i hear what your saying, but i just feel that i owe him nothing. neither one of us owe anything to the other person. especailly since according to him, im just another girl.

maybe if he came at me right with an apology and such. but nope, he wants to use the same dumb ass excuse about buying him a bottle. he continues to insult my intelligence.
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Wow, dmv, I don't know the whole story (been away for a minute), but he treated you horrible. Good riddance. It doesn't seem he bought anything positive into your life except his EXIT, of course.



he did. and im not going to make a single excuse for his behavior. he always seems to grow a pair of balls when he trying to dog me out. but he cant ever say any of that shit to my face. if he were really my friend like he claimed to be, he never woulda came out his mouth like that. i dont care how hurt he was and still is. now he knows for the future, DMV isnt the one. not everybody is going to take his crap lying down.
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But it'll still have an effect if he comes and does it again, you can't stop him frequenting the same places you do, right ?
Unless you introduce a muscle hound to his neck, or similar. 🙂



naw, i cant stop him from doing anything. whenever hes ready to apologize, im available. but he has to come correct. and even then, he will start right back up again with his shit. we'll start talking again and BAM hes right back into his games.

hes not worth it anymore.

he and alot of other scorpios (or any other sign for that matter) need to realize that if they are upset or hurt, they cant treat people any old way and then expect that person to be friends with them or even talk to them afterwards. and better yet, forgive them.

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I usually find pity for the "dumped" as Im a veteran of that war, but one thing I didnt do was be an asshole while we were still together. I tried my best not to give her a single bad moment with me....of course when she dumped me I forgot all about that...anyhow, good for you. If he was mean when you were still saying I Love You....then he deserves to be treated like shit and ignored and banned from your life.



sometimes its the only way to teach people a lesson.
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But it'll still have an effect if he comes and does it again, you can't stop him frequenting the same places you do, right ?
Unless you introduce a muscle hound to his neck, or similar. 🙂



naw, i cant stop him from doing anything. whenever hes ready to apologize, im available. but he has to come correct. and even then, he will start right back up again with his shit. we'll start talking again and BAM hes right back into his games.

hes not worth it anymore.

he and alot of other scorpios (or any other sign for that matter) need to realize that if they are upset or hurt, they cant treat people any old way and then expect that person to be friends with them or even talk to them afterwards. and better yet, forgive them.


True, I agree completely.
But tbh my bug bear is liars and manipulators, and I expect no forgiveness for my dealings with them.
I'm not saying you've lied to him as he's the married one right ?
But seriously you should'v vocalised your intention to fuck him off instead of drawing it out because you wanted to be stubborn and prideful (bane of saggis as I've seen as a re-occurring theme)🙂
Maybe his bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving .
Tbh he sounds like a loser douche though, begging for a drink off a woman and trying to make it look 'playa'.
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i rarely go off on people. i just choose to leave them along 100% . maybe its not the best way of dealing with others.
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True, I agree completely.
But tbh my bug bear is liars and manipulators, and I expect no forgiveness for my dealings with them.
I'm not saying you've lied to him as he's the married one right ?
But seriously you should'v vocalised your intention to fuck him off instead of drawing it out because you wanted to be stubborn and prideful (bane of saggis as I've seen as a re-occurring theme)🙂
Maybe his bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving .
Tbh he sounds like a loser douche though, begging for a drink off a woman and trying to make it look 'playa'.



@everevolvingepithet

I know you aren't responding to me, but ...
What's a "bug bear"?
What's meant by "bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving"

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my dear friends thinks im egging the scorpio on and contributing to his stalking or "trying" because i am not being direct.

however, i thought the best way to deal with a scorpio is ZERO contact. you give a scorp a inch, he takes mile.



True. Maybe what they mean is tell him to leave you alone or else, I wont say it again kinda thing, and then dont talk to him at all. Cus they have to know you're not going to deal with them ever again. You can't just cut them off or they will be wondering and trying to get with you.

Quite honestly this guy sounds like a sad case. psh
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my dear friends thinks im egging the scorpio on and contributing to his stalking or "trying" because i am not being direct.

however, i thought the best way to deal with a scorpio is ZERO contact. you give a scorp a inch, he takes mile.



D, I don't know if you will ever get rid of him until he is ready to leave you alone, unless you move away (not telling you to do that), or get into another relationship. Then, he will probably only stalk you online. I think this is hopeless because he is not listening to you. He will leave you alone only when he finally decides to do that.

And yeah, I believe you about giving this guy an inch... Apparently, you can not do that with him.
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Some of them don't get it even when you're direct and tell them to leave you alone.
I just logged into my email yesterday and saw my Scorp friend emailed me again (he seems to email me about once a week). I don't even read his emails anymore, but just seeing the titles are always like 'Please talk to me' and 'I miss you so much'.. and I've told him so many times that I can't talk to him anymore. And I tell him exactly why too. I try to be nice because he's a sweet guy, but being nice isn't cutting it, he just doesn't get it. And the reason I don't want to talk to him anymore is because I only wanted to be his friend, but he can't just be my friend.. he always has to ruin it by saying he loves me, etc. He drains me and makes me feel sorry for him.. I have to think about myself though and not just worry about his feelings.

But your Scorp sounds like he was a jerk.. so he deserves anything you give him without having to worry about his feelings. If I were you I would just tell him to leave you alone, that he lost his chance with you, and that you won't talk to him again. And tell him if he won't listen to you, and if you see him following you around or stalking you or causing you problems, you will have to get someone else involved that maybe he will listen to. (Scare tactic lol)



APP, this is so sad. Because it's like it's all or nothing and he thinks he can wear you down. Then, if you do, he will ruin it because your feelings won't be instense, just sympathetic (translation: like he's pathetic, you feel sorry for him -- he will sense this and be angry about it). He doesn't want to be your friend (that's not intense enough), so he is pushing you to be mean to him. That way, he can walk away hating you -- because at least that's intense (for him), not mediocre (leaving a bad taste in his mouth). He wants to spur intensity in you. Some men are so weird. Maybe if he wasn't trying to control the relationship, you may even begin to LIKE him better.

But don't give in. If you aren't "feeling" it from him, it will be a disaster for you.
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Some of them don't get it even when you're direct and tell them to leave you alone.
I just logged into my email yesterday and saw my Scorp friend emailed me again (he seems to email me about once a week). I don't even read his emails anymore, but just seeing the titles are always like 'Please talk to me' and 'I miss you so much'.. and I've told him so many times that I can't talk to him anymore. And I tell him exactly why too. I try to be nice because he's a sweet guy, but being nice isn't cutting it, he just doesn't get it. And the reason I don't want to talk to him anymore is because I only wanted to be his friend, but he can't just be my friend.. he always has to ruin it by saying he loves me, etc. He drains me and makes me feel sorry for him.. I have to think about myself though and not just worry about his feelings.

But your Scorp sounds like he was a jerk.. so he deserves anything you give him without having to worry about his feelings. If I were you I would just tell him to leave you alone, that he lost his chance with you, and that you won't talk to him again. And tell him if he won't listen to you, and if you see him following you around or stalking you or causing you problems, you will have to get someone else involved that maybe he will listen to. (Scare tactic lol)



APP, this is so sad. Because it's like it's all or nothing and he thinks he can wear you down. Then, if you do, he will ruin it because your feelings won't be instense, just sympathetic (translation: like he's pathetic, you feel sorry for him -- he will sense this and be angry about it). He doesn't want to be your friend (that's not intense enough), so he is pushing you to be mean to him. That way, he can walk away hating you -- because at least that's intense (for him), not mediocre (leaving a bad taste in his mouth). He wants to spur intensity in you. Some men are so weird. Maybe if he wasn't trying to control the relationship, you may even begin to LIKE him better.

But don't give in. If you aren't "feeling" it from him, it will be a disaster for you.
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interesting what you say about needing the intensity. he thrives on it. i think scorps ruin alot of the intensity they seek through the hot and cold action. so true what youve written.
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i feel like he doesnt deserve an once of my attention anymore. i agree, i dont think about his feelings anymore. he certainly doesnt give a hoot about mine.



D, it's going to take a minute for you to put this experience in the right perspective. This man hurt you and he is struggling with his own demons. But he is not your responsibility. I wish I could give you some great advice, I can only say, live this thing out one day at a time. Don't try to predict your future, but allow life each day to help you gain positive energy from this hurtful past. Learn. Forgive. Love. Heal. I sound so preachy, don't I? I'm not trying to. I just think I understand what you are going through. He left a mark on your life and I wish I could wash it away.
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Maybe his bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving .




@everevolvingepithet

I know you aren't responding to me, but ...
What's a "bug bear"?
What's meant by "bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving"



He meant the Scorp will not stop creating these types of scenarios with her because she hasn't been firm enough in telling him to fuck off. If she told him that once and then when the heat died down she loosened her resolve and let her guard down a little and showed him some compassion, the Scorp will continue to play with and manipulate her emotions until he wears her down again enough to slide back in because he succeeded at it once when she had already told him she was done. So why not do it again and again and again just because he thinks he can. I made this mistake a time or two with a Scorp. The manipulation game to a Scorp is like catnip to kitties.

That's my interpretation. I know you weren't speaking to me, but I'm nosey. I had to drop my two cents anyway... 🙂
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my resolve has been up since the fight. havent spoken to him once, not even eye contact. its been almost 2 months. my guard has not come down. i did hand him a roll of paper towel in the bathroom. boy if he took that as an opening he's even nuttier than i thought

i def hear what your saying about him being intuitive and im intuitive 2. its just that i dont pay attention to him and it kills him. your right about the game of manipulation. boy he is waiting for me to cave and then he can play his tricks.

there will be a hottie in a bikini in now time to distract him.
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I may be wrong here. Don't know the whole backstory, but Scorps are usually pretty intuitive. He can sense that he is getting some sort of rise/emotions out of you. Even though you present a cool exterior by ignoring him, he senses that you still care even if it is just an ounce, he knows it's there and that's enough for him to feel like he can get back in whenever he wants to.
When you say you "wish him well" it says you still care about his well being (more than likely because you are a decent compassionate human being) but he feels and interprets that as he still has a shot if he really wants it or at the very least that he can manipulate those emotions. And he lives for the moments he can manipulate your emotions. It's like food to him. He needs it. He can see through the cool exterior. You don't even have to verbalize it, he can feel it. You have to be genuinely cold towards him. I think ignoring him was the right thing to do. But not acting like you don't care about him, actually not caring about him.
You may still be healing some piece of you from the breakup, but concentrate on cutting the "soul ties" you have with him. I had a Scorp for years. They are hard to shake. You can not waver at all. You need to not be concerned about his well being at all. And I believe it truly has to come from within in order to work. He wasn't concerned about yours when he was mistreating you and dogging you out to your friends. That little bit of energy/feelings you still have that are causing you to "wish him well" would be better spent being only repulsed by his presence and despising him for the hurt he caused you. That's the kind of energy he needs to pick up from you in order to be rid of him. He will survive and be just fine whether you care about his well being or not. Scorps definitely know how to survive in this world. Your compassion is wasted on him. Just like you said, give him an inch and he will take a mile. He has to not only see, but feel that you don't give a shit about him.
Scorps don't like hurt/pain. They don't mind seeing you hurt, but they can't take it. They learn from heartache the quickest.

SweetLibra, you are right about soul ties. Deep. It's a shame b/c when you've spent time with someone, you really don't want to lose it all. But to a post quote from LibraSid, "the choices have been taken from you due to what he has done."
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Maybe his bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving .




@everevolvingepithet

I know you aren't responding to me, but ...
What's a "bug bear"?
What's meant by "bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving"



He meant the Scorp will not stop creating these types of scenarios with her because she hasn't been firm enough in telling him to fuck off. ....The manipulation game to a Scorp is like catnip to kitties.

That's my interpretation. I know you weren't speaking to me, but I'm nosey. I had to drop my two cents anyway... 🙂
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No worries, thanks. That makes sense 🙂
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True, I agree completely.
But tbh my bug bear is liars and manipulators, and I expect no forgiveness for my dealings with them.

Maybe his bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving .




@everevolvingepithet

I know you aren't responding to me, but ...
What's a "bug bear"?
What's meant by "bone of contention is you being soft about it and using it as a crux to keep perving"


I wasn't ignoring you I just missed the post.🙂

A bug bear is something that niggles you, a small irritation that won't go away
Bug bear

As for your other question, DMV needs to shut him down and make it known She doesn't want anything to do with him as he's using these cheesy lines and begging for beer as a way of getting to her. I mean he's married anyways, ffs!
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@ever*, no I didn't think you were ignoring me ... I'd heard the expression before, just wasn't sure what it meant, I usually say pet peeve in those cases. 🙂
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i do wish him well. i wish everyone well, but i wont tell him that. the last thing i told him was that i wished i never met him. i just go on about my business. i genuinely do not pay any attention to him. i know its hard for him. summer is coming and there will be lost of girls in short skirts and bikinis. he will be moving on in no time.



And he's married? He's such a punk.
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i do wish him well. i wish everyone well, but i wont tell him that. the last thing i told him was that i wished i never met him. i just go on about my business. i genuinely do not pay any attention to him. i know its hard for him. summer is coming and there will be lost of girls in short skirts and bikinis. he will be moving on in no time.



And he's married? He's such a punk.
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yup, hes hitched.
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You may still be healing some piece of you from the breakup, but concentrate on cutting the "soul ties" you have with him. I had a Scorp for years. They are hard to shake. You can not waver at all. You need to not be concerned about his well being at all. And I believe it truly has to come from within in order to work. He wasn't concerned about yours when he was mistreating you and dogging you out to your friends. That little bit of energy/feelings you still have that are causing you to "wish him well" would be better spent being only repulsed by his presence and despising him for the hurt he caused you. That's the kind of energy he needs to pick up from you in order to be rid of him. He will survive and be just fine whether you care about his well being or not. Scorps definitely know how to survive in this world. Your compassion is wasted on him. Just like you said, give him an inch and he will take a mile. He has to not only see, but feel that you don't give a shit about him.
Scorps don't like hurt/pain. They don't mind seeing you hurt, but they can't take it. They learn from heartache the quickest.




SweetLibra, you are right about soul ties. Deep. It's a shame b/c when you've spent time with someone, you really don't want to lose it all. But to a post quote from LibraSid, "the choices have been taken from you due to what he has done."



My first love was my son's father. I was an emotional wreck when that relationship ended. It needed to for many, many reasons that I couldn't understand or make sense of at the time because of age and my level of self worth and knowledge of self at that point. But I loved him so deeply that I didn't know how to let him go and move past it even though he had no problem doing so. My mother saw how much it was hurting me one day and told me "baby, you have to cut the soul ties you have with him". I had never heard anyone say that before. It was an aha moment and the best advice she has ever given me. You are right it is very deep.
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yeah your moms right. i also believe that just because you feel like someone is your soulmate, doesnt mean your meant to be with them.
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i do wish him well. i wish everyone well, but i wont tell him that. the last thing i told him was that i wished i never met him. i just go on about my business. i genuinely do not pay any attention to him. i know its hard for him. summer is coming and there will be lost of girls in short skirts and bikinis. he will be moving on in no time.



And he's married? He's such a punk.



yup, hes hitched.
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You know, he may be dealing with serious guilt trips for cheating on his wife. Not that that validates his behavior towards you. Nothing will. But I remember reading that Richard Burton never forgave himself for leaving his wife and daughter for Elizabeth Taylor even though he was so into ET. It read that this was one of the reasons they fought so much and he drank so much. Although I loved seeing them together and reading about their passionate relationship (good&bad), I have NO problem with anyone torturing themselves to death if they have tortured someone else. If there is no remorse, then to hell with them.
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i do wish him well. i wish everyone well, but i wont tell him that. the last thing i told him was that i wished i never met him. i just go on about my business. i genuinely do not pay any attention to him. i know its hard for him. summer is coming and there will be lost of girls in short skirts and bikinis. he will be moving on in no time.



And he's married? He's such a punk.



yup, hes hitched.



You know, he may be dealing with serious guilt trips for cheating on his wife. Not that that validates his behavior towards you. Nothing will. But I remember reading that Richard Burton never forgave himself for leaving his wife and daughter for Elizabeth Taylor even though he was so into ET. It read that this was one of the reasons they fought so much and he drank so much. Although I loved seeing them together and reading about their passionate relationship (good&bad), I have NO problem with anyone torturing themselves to death if they have tortured someone else. If there is no remorse, then to hell with them.
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yeah i think he feels guilty for developing feelings. he sleep with other women, so he doesnt feel guilty about the sex.