hurt :(...my scorp just wont listen...

he's always telling me what i think and how i feel about him when i know i dont..

and he's always pointing out that maybe i need someone else in my life...

he drinks a lot and that is the only time when he opens up ... he repeats things that bother him and over and over and they may not seem to be a big deal to me but they are but he think that i dont care when i dont rant and rave like he do it just that i dont want his temper to flare...

now he's outside with his things in the cold waiting on someone to come get him .stinging himself...and im here typing this with a broken heart..there has been many times when he would leave my home..now that i made a move to tell him to go this time he being stubborn and stay just to prove a point...i hate this...

...he drinks a lot....


THERE is the proble. And as someone who was in love with an alcoholic (married) for 20 years, YOU cant change him.
The mindset is distorted, insecure and irrational TIMES 1000.

Im sorry you;re suffering....

Posted by DaLionessOfLove

.... like he do it ...

It just infuriates me that people like you are allowed to graduate 3rd grade.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by DaLionessOfLove

.... like he do it ...

It just infuriates me that people like you are allowed to graduate 3rd grade.

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Lol.Come on P,be a little nicer...

Posted by Nemesis
he cannot or does not want to make the decision; so he is behaving like an idiot in order for the OP to break up with him (for good). OP, do yourself a favour.

human nature never ceases to disgust me.

yeah i kinda figured that .... he claimed to have been able to move on from relationship within a blink of an eye if he felt they were being 'superficial' with him...

with me it seems like he would try to create a problem...just to have an excuse to go for good ...

he plays victim all the time but is cool with me i just keep calm from arguing with him when i see him starting up because of my anxiety disorder...it doesn't help much, i still end up having them..or he still ends up angry and/or threatening to leave knowing it will hurt me dearly if he did..

from what he has told me his longest relationship was give or take a year...others...approx 3 months...

he introduced me to his mom on week one...she didn't really seem to warm up but i don't blame her if she isn't used to him bringing girls to her home or getting serious with them like he claimed to have wanted to do with me...

I had been introduced to several of his friends...lots of them said pretty much the same thing..." he's playing with you he not serious lol..." or even "I'll give him a couple of weeks and he'll be gone" ...

his family warmed up to me pretty nice but i think it was just to make me feel comfortable at first... on Christmas he was agitated by the fact that he thought that we wasn't being welcomed at his mom's place ...several of them has told me they like me and that he should really consider being with me ..one of his longtime buddies even told him told him to stop being so selfish and even told us that we should really try to work on things one day to get married...

i guess the fact that he wasn't able to find something wrong was the problem with me...so he would create little things in his own mind ..try to get them to play out ...purely destructive...

Posted by LadyScorpP
Yes I agree.

The drinking a lot should be a red flag of some sorts....

yep...

he's mostly a social drinker and has to have his beer...our best times has been when he hasn't been drinking heavily

he the loud type lol...Scorp moon/Sag. sun ...so yeah he can be the loud one at times...can't get a word in ..and when he drink he sometimes becomes this dark person ...moody...egotistical...quarrelsome

sometimes he goes days without drinking...

when he does get money he spends a lot on beer he even has said that he needs to because it soaks up his money...he will drink most of the time until the house six pack is gone...

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Posted by LadyScorpP
Yes I agree.

The drinking a lot should be a red flag of some sorts....

yep...

he's mostly a social drinker and has to have his beer...our best times has been when he hasn't been drinking heavily

he the loud type lol...Scorp moon/Sag. sun ...so yeah he can be the loud one at times...can't get a word in ..and when he drink he sometimes becomes this dark person ...moody...egotistical...quarrelsome

sometimes he goes days without drinking...

when he does get money he spends a lot on beer he even has said that he needs to because it soaks up his money...he will drink most of the time until the house six pack is gone...

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but tonight his close friend brought over a 12/24 pack not really sure cause when they get together i usually just leave the room let them socialize..but i realized that the box was almost empty by the time his friend left ...his friend had even left him the rest ..(prob. about 2 or 3 ) ...he mad sure to finish them up before he finally left my house..

I'm talking to him on facebook atm and he seems to have let some of the stinging defenses down but not down enough to let me comfortable to him..still defensive...cold...and i'm not even blaming him on anything ...

his mother called me to talk to me to tell him to give him some time because he's stubborn...i even posted a note on his page that mention him another comment on my wall and he hasnt deleted it on his page so i see he still cares he just has this wall up ...that doesn't bother me i under stand it takes time ...

in the residence we live in ...me and his mother...we cannot have what is considered ...illegal live ends:people who are not on the lease ... i was talking about putting him on my lease the more we get close to making just small steps he gets timid i guess and finds something to start on..

@Oldskoolflavor i never really thought that my outter calm appearace to avoid and heated argument will be mistaken for uninterest in his feels its just tha ti have to try to find that balance to control my self...or grow up if you speak...


and as for as drama and leo..not every leo loves drama ...

at least i know i dont


i mean i admit something i do come across as dramatic but hat is only because i have been hurt or chose not to tolerate the bs anymore to the point where im like okay its time for me to put my foot up your *** lol...


i think that people push certain signs more to get a reaction of out them just to judge what they have heard come from astrology reports...all of it isnt true in some cases you have to take the person for who they are

long story short I took a trip after taking my anxiety meds and no sleep for almost all night from the previous drama and of course the family welcomed me...there mom wasn't home...Ms. Scorp ask me coldly why im there and i responded that i couldnt get in contact with him since early that morning because his phone was turned off and that I had had several anxiety attacks and sharp pains in my chest from stress and not sleep

i had taken my meds ...came to the door he didnt want me to come in even though i wanted to talk moments later i walked away tear filled eyes and stood on the porch to wipe them away when his little sister told me to come in since it was outside

i ended up falling asleep on the couch meanwhile his younger brother gave me a blanket as i slept and then i heard him offering me if i wanted something to eat....

when i woke up the room was just of me and Mr. Scorp who was still on facebook...he said that he was generous to let me sleep for three hours but "what did i wanta" I told him i wanted to talk to him ...he looks at me fouly....as if i wasnt bullbutter to him....then he said i "need help" and that i got to go... i wanted to continue to talk to get him to understand that yesterday wasnt an issue anymore but yet he threatens me to go...i get up walk to the door and he starts to push me out ..i aks him why is he pushing me and push harder into this body to stop him from doing so that is why he pushed me with his arm on the outside concrete pourch...his little sister runs to the door in shock that her brother is acting like this...then he is all in my face screaming that he will do harm to me cause "im playing games with him" when all I wanted was to talk things over...he bring up the fact that i brought HIS things to HIM so that mean that i must wanted to have moved on ..i was like no i brought them there because that's some of the things he needed ..

he gets loud tells me to leave pushes me towards the porch tells me that im disrepecting his mom house ...which in fact he was doing it more by his actions...

im mad...he's mad...so i call the police this is the last straw on him pushing me and putting his hands in my face and threatening me ...so i told him to meet me somewhere so we can either discuss things in from of the cops because i wasnt trying to get his mom in trouble with the landlord she has..i have the same landlord so he's strict on people who are in the residence we live in that are not on the lease and now that his close are there that is someone proof that he is there

he hasnt even moved them inside of the house since the other night...stubborn...smdh

i get to talk to the police while his mom is ranting and raving in my ear on why did i come to her house with a lot of drama ..i told her that her kids will clear it up that i wasnt doing anything...and that i was sleep most of the time...she even doesnt want drama....but like i told her ..he can bring it to my house all the time...wasnt trying to be disrespectful but i also noted that he always throwing up that he can come to her house...and that i thought she was there but he seems to be trying to run thing when she is not there..

talked to the police they made a case ...police said that i shouldnt be coming to her residence then that is okay...i understand ..for something that i didnt do..but that was her choice to make ...that is on her to deal with his temper ..and from what his youngest little sister has told me is that he has done things like that before so its kinda nothing new ...

i just feel kinda bad now cause he's giving me the silent treatment on facebook i can tell he misses me he's sending game request and has been on my brother's page liking most of his status even though they arent really that close

ive sent him message but i've heard that it take time for the silent treatment of a scorp to end WHEN he wants it too...

I dont know how old you are, but you do sound very young. There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, his and the truth. Bottom line, you went to his house, you practiclly begged for his attention and all you got was his attitude and degradation. When he put his hands on you, you should have been OUT OF THERE. Instead, you have lost your dignity and practically are begging him to come to you to talk? You are a Leo and yes you do dig drama cus you brought this all on yourself by chasing him down at his home.

Girl....where is your identity to allow this man to speak to/touch you in this manner?

Posted by BigGirlPanties
I dont know how old you are, but you do sound very young. There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, his and the truth. Bottom line, you went to his house, you practiclly begged for his attention and all you got was his attitude and degradation. When he put his hands on you, you should have been OUT OF THERE. Instead, you have lost your dignity and practically are begging him to come to you to talk? You are a Leo and yes you do dig drama cus you brought this all on yourself by chasing him down at his home.

Girl....where is your identity to allow this man to speak to/touch you in this manner?

how is asking for someone to speak to you nicely and wanting to see them like you normally do to talk things through drama??

and yes when he put his hands on me that was the last straw even he knew that ..that is why he let me walk away after being in my face scream that I needed to go home...everytime I ask something or do something he screams at the little bits even down to the fact that I love him...he gets heated for no reason...over me not giving him a dollar ...over him not allowing me to use my own computer at home...but im the dramatic one...

he has said that he is selfish and can be an asshole ..i think that lastnight he just wanted to act out to make him feel like he was the head of the house because his mother was not there ..

when his youngest little sister called me said that everything was calmer now...that was when his mom arrived...from what i hear they just let him rant and rave whenever he gets like that and that is the problem with him ..he has several issues with his family he feels like he's the out cast because they are darker than them...he cursed his mom during christmas indirectly but enough for her to hear that he didnt feel appreciated because she showed his little brother even more attention ...

so drama I am not ...I'm trying to keep him calm

a sun sign does not make me all the things you claim I am

dont get me wrong i have had my dramatic days but this one was not it i needed help...sometimes these attacks can trigger i was at home alone ..if i stop breathing i can littery die..i do take my meds but they dont help..i've seen my kids worry about me not being able to breath...death breathing and meditation does help to an extent but they are just temporary fizes...when i first start having them i had short term mem

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memory loss in which my scorp claims in must ignoring him or is tunning him out ...he goes on about little things

like me giving him a dollar or if he "claim" im lieing on him whenever he ask me to repeat what he says cause he claims in not listening word for word..and when i do i repeat it on the basis closest as possible because for some reason when having anxiety or being around him i cannot thing properly and repeat every single word

there has been time when i would repeat him the best as possible and he would say that im lieing on him and get all in my face as if to hit me....but im the dramatic one lol..go tell him that ...

there has been numerous times he would ask me how i felt then turn around when i give him an answer and he would say im wrong my communication shuts down on days when i feel like its not necessary to voice my opinion because what should it matter he's always right and as he says "im wrong" or I " always has to be right about something" when he cannot press his views on me or let me talk...he cuts me off in mid sentence all the time but if I was to do it he get frustrated and leaves...

i just continue to do what i want to do sometimes he comes back and sacrastically tries to stab at the situation again..if i ignore him he gets heated if I speak on what i felt sometimes he escalades right back to the point that he might need to leave...."i can go if you want me too" ..." you need someone else in your life" ...."talking to you isnt getting anywhwere" ...

just as lastnight when we were arguing on the phone he called me baby but yet he was the one who wanted to leave so if im being dramatic then okay but this little Scorp boi needs to sit down and stop playing mind games..

*that not death sorry

A drinking Scorpio now that is a freaky thought. Either get him help or leave him. Or record him when he is in his drunk stopper.
Do his family know?

Either do yourself a favor and leave him, or rip of his stinger and beat him over the head with it until it knocks the drunk out of him and he grows up.

when i explained to his sister who later told her little sister her mom was pretty aware that he had been drinking because when i finally started to talk to the youngest sister she nonchantly brushed it off as "he gets like that when he's drinking" ..

i just recent got of the phone with the little sister who called me and we spoke and she said that other women he had been with have left him alone for the same reasons and that his mom really doesn't want him there...in fact she is supposed to be moving soon..

i was about to put him on my apartment lease soon but it seems that he doesn't want responsibility. When I did arrive at his mom's house he was on the computer playing facebook games...that was cool...his next semster is coming so i don't mind him playing the games..he does that at my house too...

but...

a good friend of mine...one that i called to come get him but never answered the phone until later has said that he was offering Mr. Scorp a job and he turned it down with the excuse that he has to go to school. He feels like that is just bullbutter. I don't mind him being at school to better himself but i see now that he just doesn't want responsibilty. To me he is a mama's boy he wants somewhere that he can have control...that is at his mom's house....because he's said so his self she is barely there and he feels like he has to "raise" his little sisters.

I have pointed it out that his drinking is a problem and I've only known him for a couple of months...he knows its a problem too. I dont see him wanting help because he 'see's that nothing is wrong it just that the world is buttered up'

i wonder what he would do if she did move he really should consider about that or else he might find another female and the next and the next like he's been doing ....he's stinging himself to the point where he has realized life has slipped him by ..

he says he wants things in a hurry ..but the ones who are trying to help him he dont see it ..he says that ppl should DO and not TRY...

he's 29 no kids so he really has no excuse just needs to get on his own two feets but i think its too late...i've seen my biological brother do the same thing he is now 36 ...no career or what so ever has a degree for paralegal sometimes the ones that we try to help are the ones that need to help themselves the most are the ones who cause they own self destruction by not listening and blaming others

Scorpio or no Scorpio, I feel Girls are better of single than taking responsibilities of such guys who are alcoholics or who are not emotionally stable.

If I were you, I wouldn't even pick up his calls any more. You need some1 to help you with your lease, get a roommate, but I feel your better off without such drama in your life. Mental peace is something that matters a lot.

I knew ladies, whose husbands were social drinkers and after marriage they turned into alcoholics, i saw them going through a lot of trouble trying to manage work, kids and husbands drinking problem.

Time heals all kinds of wounds, even if you love him, you can still live without him.

No human has the power to get an alcoholic sober. Or even *make* him break his denial. She is in it neck deep and he will drag her down until she has been stripped of her self respect, dignity, self esteem. She is well on her way to becoming nothing.

Take it from someone whose been there, done that with an alcoholic. Hope you find a bottom soon, before the bruises turn into blood.

"I had been introduced to several of his friends...lots of them said pretty much the same thing..." he's playing with you he not serious lol..." or even "I'll give him a couple of weeks and he'll be gone" ..."

And you staid?

I mean damn what kind of warning do you need? Air writing?

Clearly the guy is dysfunctional, you should really consider moving on to someone whose comfortable being in a real relationship and not a guy that throw temper tantrums and say or do things to push you away when he's feeling uncomfortable. Seems this guy is using alcohol as a way to keep some distance between you, he calmed down after he left so yeah he's probably a counter dependent and get really uncomfortable being in close relationships with women. He clearly is escalating into being abusive. What other sign do you need outside of him having a drinking problem that is escalating into abuse? If you continue to COME BACK THEN YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE OKAY WITH BAD TREATMENT so don't be surprised if he begins to get more and more aggressive with you. I hope your life means something to you.

You seem young, don't waste your life on men with problems, he needs a therapist not a girlfriend....

*stayed*

Posted by BigGirlPanties
No human has the power to get an alcoholic sober. Or even *make* him break his denial. She is in it neck deep and he will drag her down until she has been stripped of her self respect, dignity, self esteem. She is well on her way to becoming nothing.

Take it from someone whose been there, done that with an alcoholic. Hope you find a bottom soon, before the bruises turn into blood.

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