What is self stinging?

I've heard several scorpio's say they "sting themselves" more often that stinging others. How do you sting yourself?

Deny your feelings for your love?......Give into your fear and reject someone to avoid taking a risk?

Please share.

Gosh what a story Exo. I knew scorpios were interested in death, but thats a wild story. 😉

remind me to never fuck with your phone.

I think it means that they will do shit and know sooner or later they will have to pay the price for the shit they do.

Self stinging is when you do whatever you have to do to protect yourself, prove a point, defend yourself whether physically or emotionally. Self preservation. Also too, the old adage, cutting of your nose to spite your face. Just so the other person or thing cannot destruct you, hurt you, or screw you over. You end up destructing something of yourself, but you survive...whatever the reason self stinging occurs doesn't survive, or it's transformed into something way different when you are finished. It's literally going beyond the normal state of mind out of self protection.

well said OD, thanks for being so concise. My former scorp told me once he stings himself the most and I didnt follow up asking in what way? I know I have avoiding taking certain actions out of fear of the outcome. Looking back, the outcome could have been great had I risked it. 😢

"Cutting off your nose to spite your face" is a very good analogy OceanDeep.
The best example I can think of is, if someone hurts you in some way, instead of trying to mend the relationship you push the person out of your life forever (often saying or doing things to them that are so cutting that they will never try to come close to you again.) You end up regretting your actions, feeling guilty about what you said or did, and therefore hurt yourself as much as you hurt them or possibly more.

Posted by AutumnalChick
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face" is a very good analogy OceanDeep.
The best example I can think of is, if someone hurts you in some way, instead of trying to mend the relationship you push the person out of your life forever (often saying or doing things to them that are so cutting that they will never try to come close to you again.) You end up regretting your actions, feeling guilty about what you said or did, and therefore hurt yourself as much as you hurt them or possibly more.

Yup yup. Did this two weeks ago yesterday.

self stinging

Id rather not celebrate my birthday then to run the risk of celebrating it with you..

Posted by exoskeleton
i don't hold myself back from love. i sting myself when i lose control and lash out due to jealousy/possessiveness/mistrust/whatever.

you reminded me of not my best moment. my aries/scorp moon friend and i had a history of insane, heated arguments and fucking with each others stuff. one night we were piss drunk and fighting and i smugly told him i put his towel in the toilet (even though i didn't) just to see his reaction. he popped off and ran downstairs and i knew he was headed for my things to retaliate. he grabbed my phone charger and phone and was about to throw them but i grabbed him and managed to slam him down and he hit his head on the radiator. he was knocked out and i kneeled over him and spit on his forehead and kept slapping him. i was so pissed that i didn't even care. when i got up i caught my scorpion ring on something and the stinger snapped off. the fucking irony. he woke up and the realization that i could have killed him burned through me. i apologized a million times. :/

whats ur mars sign?

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Posted by AutumnalChick
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face" is a very good analogy OceanDeep.
The best example I can think of is, if someone hurts you in some way, instead of trying to mend the relationship you push the person out of your life forever (often saying or doing things to them that are so cutting that they will never try to come close to you again.) You end up regretting your actions, feeling guilty about what you said or did, and therefore hurt yourself as much as you hurt them or possibly more.

Yup yup. Did this two weeks ago yesterday.

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Think I've been the recipient of this 2 months ago...from a scorpio. Hah! Guess you all answered my question well.

OD...is it possible for you to make amends?

scorpio self-stinging the way you guys describe could apply to anyone. "cutting off your nose to spite your face" as a way of standing for one's principles is honorable and not a sting at all, imo. i could be wrong, but the self-sting i've seen (with scorpios i know) is being hell-bent on "pushing the envelope" too far just to see what would happen. most knowing full well the consequences they will get if/when caught. from that perspective, it's self-afflicting unnecessary grief

Posted by Pecheresse
Hurting to keep the pain away

Isnt this a conumdrum? Hurting..yet trying to keep the pain away....but you're already hurting in the first place.

Self stinging seems to be very much a typical scorpio trait?

Its your pride, Midnite Star....caretaking what people think about you ie: people pleasing is our pride taking over. Only someone with self esteem issues really care what something *thinks* about them. I used to be this way quite a lot. Until I found my confidence and self love...my motto these days is "Whatever anyone else thinks about me is none of my business" 😉

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Posted by Nemesis
What is self stinging?

missing the way it never was.....

*nods* and obsessively so.

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Boom. Nailed it

It's giving stupid ultimatums to show that they are tough and no,you didn't really hurt their feelings (even though they are dying inside),and then to be in misery and make it through and come out tougher,just to do same thing over and over again.I guess they are sado-masochistic!

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Posted by exoskeleton
^it's not silly, but you're afraid of being vulnerable. stop denying yourself what you want. that's why shit doesn't go right for you.

You're right. Can't argue with you there.

Don't worry though, I'm going to spare you all from now on and stop making all of these threads complaining about my life. I'm starting to sound like a broken record. lol No more complaints from me.

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Midnite, I can't remember where you posted your chart, do you have Mercury/Saturn? I'd really lime to see it one more time, could you please send it to me?
Incidentally what you said about loneliness and kids reflects exactly my way of thinking. Internal work is being done under the wraps hoping, just hoping that someday good events will happen. I guess the Inner reality hasn't completed shifting just yet as to attract a different set of options. Sometimes in life this inner work is necessary so don't get discouraged. This absolute need and pressure that this society imposes to its members to be forcefully happy at all costs destroys us spiritually. No melancholic pauses are accepted, only the holiday rush lol

Posted by AutumnalChick
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face" is a very good analogy OceanDeep.
The best example I can think of is, if someone hurts you in some way, instead of trying to mend the relationship you push the person out of your life forever (often saying or doing things to them that are so cutting that they will never try to come close to you again.) You end up regretting your actions, feeling guilty about what you said or did, and therefore hurt yourself as much as you hurt them or possibly more.

This would be a very good example; I think self stinging happens in the process Of dealing with loss of power and control. Since Scorp is a fixed sign, it prefers to instinctively go towards its own ways of doing stuff. The self inflicted hurt happens as means of traumatically learning a point into how one should react more flexibly. That's why so many Scorps cross paths with mutable signs; to learn the flex. lesson I guess.

On a personal note it's a bit scary how deeply I can identify myself in all these different Scorpio behaviors described here and there, notice how this has always been my covert behavior since forever. Only to prove how a long good chart analysis of one's chart, especially the tightest Moon Pluto conjunction combined with Scorp NNode and other aspects can completely alter the Leo archetype into something else. This Leo does not look like a Leo, doesn't act or feel like a Leo, how can this be I do not know. I've seen it happen with an Aries chart who was screaming Pisces from all its aspects and houses, but with Pisces Aries it's not that clear because of the beginning/ending of the zodiac where everything can be blurred.

Having said that about the unwillingness to compromise while secretely hoping the other party will, or wait to lighten up if they treat Scorps kindly, maybe the solution is to reach out and change one's ways as soon as one recognizes the the spite situation.

Posted by DeadRingerr
Its like when you try to be two steps ahead of the game in order not to get hurt and then you end up realizing the other person wasn't even playing, so they see you as a kniving piece of shit,, when in essence you were just trying to protect yourself before they got to you first. So they end up leaving your ass for being a low life....thats stinging yourself.

Bingo.

BGP, thanks for starting this thread. It's very insightful.

Posted by Divinesun
BGP, thanks for starting this thread. It's very insightful.

Hello darlin'...you're welcome, it is very helpful to get this insight. I'm finding my scorp moon has done a bit if self stinging itself. When will we ever learn to stop the self sabotage?

Hi Honey, it is very helpful....and I've done it also...must be due to being a sag/scorp cusper!

when you sabatoge your happiness by living in the past misery. your old fears come back and you decide nothing good will come to you in the first place; therefore you make a mess of everything before you come to find out there was nothing to worry about from the start.

self stinging hurts.

Posted by firewaterearth
. I don't think Scorps are evil but, sometimes they can't seem to get over themselves.

It's a self-preservation thing, not an ego thing.
Another allegory would be an animal caught in a trap that chews off its own leg to escape. Painful and awful, and the bleeding or infection may kill it anyway ... but better that than dying in a trap.

Autumnal, you hit it...chewing off one's leg..BUT...the deal with scorpio is that they only THINK their leg is in a trap, when its really not. The fear tells them it is.

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Autumnal, you hit it...chewing off one's leg..BUT...the deal with scorpio is that they only THINK their leg is in a trap, when its really not. The fear tells them it is.

Ed Zachary.

Posted by Stinger Baby
well damn.... chewing off legs and imagining traps? dont we sound retarded... we just gotta learn how to take a licking and keep on ticking without thinking everyone is out to get us.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN
EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET US
EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET US

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

So do these self stinging scorps realize that the animal trap is imagined or do they hold onto the dream of its existence til death? My Scorpio moon sister will hardly bow down gracefully when I've shown her that trap was never even there. Today, we got into an actual argument about something just as stupid as a fake animal trap. We hardly ever fight.

Posted by iheartnerdyboyz
So do these self stinging scorps realize that the animal trap is imagined or do they hold onto the dream of its existence til death? My Scorpio moon sister will hardly bow down gracefully when I've shown her that trap was never even there. Today, we got into an actual argument about something just as stupid as a fake animal trap. We hardly ever fight.

Depends on how evolved the person is, I would say. A lot of times, recognizing that the trap was never there is a huge step in a person's evolution.

Maybe your sister agrees with you deep down but won't acknowledge you're right, because she feels foolish about her extreme reactions to what was a "fake trap." Or maybe, to her, that trap is as real as they come and you just don't understand. Maybe if you tell her you understand why the trap was real in her mind ... she'll be more willing/ able to see your point, or to admit you are right.