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Posted by PhoenixRising
Crab Moon question and I truly don't feel like making a thread. I'll probably forget to even go back to it like I did for that Virgo one I made lol.

When you're feeling insecure how do you go about gaining that security, good and not so good traits you display?
I spend more money than I should on creature comforts, ie food, wine, etc.

I spend a lot of time by myself, doing things that I know I'm good at to reinforce my sense of self worth, ie reading and learning, etc. The learning aspect also has the added bonus of making me feel "better" (aka "superior").
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Posted by Ellygant
Conceptually torn right now.

Before the crab, I was still holding on to my ex Scorp, tiny bits of hope that in a few years things would change if I didn't find someone else. I also held onto resentment over the rebound Scorp from right after my break up. Didn't want him at all, but held onto a lot of anger.

The morning after I first hooked up with the crab all of that was shaken up. Within two weeks, I stopped seeing the two other people I'd been dating on/off, resolved to forgive the rebound scorp and decided for the first time since we'd broken up, I wanted someone new more than my long term ex Scorp.

So now with the crab gone and me trying to move on I'm a bit of a conundrum. The Leo likes me a lot. I can tell. Everyone else can tell. He moves slowly but he's becoming more forward and aggressive in small spurts. So it's only a matter of time before things progress.

Him moving in a few months, being a few years younger, a coworker and all that aside, the biggest problem is, the crab. After an experience like that, even with someone I vibe with, am attracted to and enjoy their company, at a certain level it's hard to let go completely with someone new.

With the crab it was like color was in my world again. Like I could just be. I felt protected, seen and felt. Things I didn't even feel with my ex. I felt comfortable in a way I'd never been before.

So now I'm stuck. Because it was the crab's presence that broke all ties to things that kept me from moving forward. Now I can't tell if it's my tie to him that's keeping me from moving forward or if it's because the connection isn't over yet. I can't tell if I'm scorp'in out by holding on because I don't want to let go or if there was really something there.

On one hand I think, it wasn't till I opened myself up to the crab that I was propelled to move forward. So maybe opening up to the Leo could produce the same? But what if I do and all I discover is that I still think of the crab's laugh on a random night when I should be enjoying the kind, sweet man who is in front of me.

Idk.

Any asylum thoughts would be welcome.
I want to bitch slap this crab.
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Posted by Ellygant
Posted by PhoenixRising
Crab Moon question and I truly don't feel like making a thread. I'll probably forget to even go back to it like I did for that Virgo one I made lol.

When you're feeling insecure how do you go about gaining that security, good and not so good traits you display?
Posted by Ellygant
Traits to acquire the security also depend on the situation. I've done everything from directly ask for what I want bluntly and harshly, to bide my time and drag a situation out till I have full clarity, to ask for the opposite of what I wanted because I was scared to be rejected to simply dropped something and abandon totally for good. Like I said, it varies lol
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Thanks 🙂
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Crab Moon question and I truly don't feel like making a thread. I'll probably forget to even go back to it like I did for that Virgo one I made lol.

When you're feeling insecure how do you go about gaining that security, good and not so good traits you display?
I spend more money than I should on creature comforts, ie food, wine, etc.

I spend a lot of time by myself, doing things that I know I'm good at to reinforce my sense of self worth, ie reading and learning, etc. The learning aspect also has the added bonus of making me feel "better" (aka "superior").
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Thanks 🙂
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Crab Moon question and I truly don't feel like making a thread. I'll probably forget to even go back to it like I did for that Virgo one I made lol.

When you're feeling insecure how do you go about gaining that security, good and not so good traits you display?
I spend more money than I should on creature comforts, ie food, wine, etc.

I spend a lot of time by myself, doing things that I know I'm good at to reinforce my sense of self worth, ie reading and learning, etc. The learning aspect also has the added bonus of making me feel "better" (aka "superior").

Thanks 🙂

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Idk if I helped but:

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You're welcome.
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Posted by Ellygant
A part of me thinks, that if I can write out all these feelings, all the little remembrances that pop into my mind, that speaking them will free me of them. And then of him. And once it's all out in the open I can finally let go.

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Heart

Beat

Priest

Priest of my heartbeat

Feel you kiss this bare neck

In my dreams

Tonight I shrink

In a dream

Where you tried to kiss me

In it I speak

'Not like this

Not with me'

Gentle soul

Soft brown eyes

Timid shoulders so wide

I remember

I see

The way they looked

Huddled while I swam in the deep.

You sat on steps

Bound by stress

While with abandon

The stars and water kissed my skin.

You sat on the steps.

Till like a hurricane

(As my heart is known to be)

I made splash

Or three.

Arms released from their hunched grip

Flew off those watery step you did

Pursuing with a vengeance

Splashing me as penance

'I hate that'

You'd later speak

But now I can't help remember

How it was the only

Thing that made you free

That let you swim

In the deep

With me.

So in my dreams

When you kiss I lean.

For that night under stars

You swam with me

Two water hearts

Under stars

Living lonely then free.

Why punish memory

By dreaming of failed chemistry?

I'd rather see you

And me

Swimming in the deep.

If only all of life

Could be allegory.
Elly,

You are so fucking beautiful and expertly tissue gift wrapped with talent and subtleties.

Don't ever let these plebian peens* nip and paw at your packaging.

Don't ever open yourself up for those less than willing to take the time to discover where the folds and tucks and scotch tape are.





*peens = penis
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Posted by Ellygant
A part of me thinks, that if I can write out all these feelings, all the little remembrances that pop into my mind, that speaking them will free me of them. And then of him. And once it's all out in the open I can finally let go.

---------------------------

Heart

Beat

Priest

Priest of my heartbeat

Feel you kiss this bare neck

In my dreams

Tonight I shrink

In a dream

Where you tried to kiss me

In it I speak

'Not like this

Not with me'

Gentle soul

Soft brown eyes

Timid shoulders so wide

I remember

I see

The way they looked

Huddled while I swam in the deep.

You sat on steps

Bound by stress

While with abandon

The stars and water kissed my skin.

You sat on the steps.

Till like a hurricane

(As my heart is known to be)

I made splash

Or three.

Arms released from their hunched grip

Flew off those watery step you did

Pursuing with a vengeance

Splashing me as penance

'I hate that'

You'd later speak

But now I can't help remember

How it was the only

Thing that made you free

That let you swim

In the deep

With me.

So in my dreams

When you kiss I lean.

For that night under stars

You swam with me

Two water hearts

Under stars

Living lonely then free.

Why punish memory

By dreaming of failed chemistry?

I'd rather see you

And me

Swimming in the deep.

If only all of life

Could be allegory.
Elly,

You are so fucking beautiful and expertly tissue gift wrapped with talent and subtleties.

Don't ever let these plebian peens* nip and paw at your packaging.

Don't ever open yourself up for those less than willing to take the time to discover where the folds and tucks and scotch tape are.





*peens = penis
Also, as a Virgo do you really unfold your present wrapping paper instead of ripping it open?

Cause if so that's just the cutest.
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Maaaaaaybeeeeee.....
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Posted by MysteriousDreamer
I had a guy tell me today that I look really good for being 34. That I look younger...by at least 7 years.

Hmmm...still not sure how to take that comment. For some reason it made me feel old. Like he was implying 34 was old. Granted, all my life I've been mistaken for being younger or have been told I look younger. But damn this has really made me think about life and how it's going by so quickly and how I'm getting older. ?

Now acting my age is a whole different story altogether! No comment there. Lol ?
Take it as a compliment 🙂

I get the same, I've even been told I look 10 years younger lol. Now that I'm seeing wrinkles others don't see, those comments I take with a smile! Ha!

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Posted by Ellygant
After a week of constant disappointments and setbacks, little losses that remind me how little control I can ever have over my life.

After a year of piecing a destroyed life together.

And a few years of feeling the type of constant loneliness that feels like it will swallow you whole at night.

I drive on a whim through hours of hurricane traffic and brought home the first piece of something that feels like a true gift of happiness, first in a long time. And yes I've cried happy tears. Duh cancer moon.

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Mila?

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🙂......
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So completely unrelated to my previous post above (😄 I swear), what would compel someone to cut off a man's dong and butt cheeks and place it on a plate for dinner...?



*continues watching documentary*...
I mean the plate would just look too empty with just a dong.

Everyone knows good food is about plating with artistry.
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*Noted..... Crab Moon*

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Posted by Ellygant
Scorp ladies out in the wild are really throwing air and fire signs through a loop rn.

I have found it interesting that since the eclipse and Mercury retro ending, for all signs, there's been more dudes coming on asking about their exes.

Saying the entire time they don't love them or want them.

Then asking hungrily for what their exes are thinking or wanting. Le-mao.

😉





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Speaking of, an ex Air sign who will remain signless msg'd me last weekend that he was in my area. After taking a minute to try to register the number (his name/number had been deleted), I ignored it. Follow up the next day? "I'm being serious. And I'll be in your area this weekend..."

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Lol. Do I really need to type the words "I don't give a f*ck" to get the point across? I guess so, but that would be putting more energy into him than I care to give.
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Speaking of, an ex Air sign who will remain signless msg'd me last weekend that he was in my area. After taking a minute to try to register the number (his name/number had been deleted), I ignored it. Follow up the next day? "I'm being serious. And I'll be in your area this weekend..."

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Lol. Do I really need to type the words "I don't give a f*ck" to get the point across? I guess so, but that would be putting more energy into him than I care to give.
Best not to anyways.

Otherwise we'd have one more thread on here about a Scorpio lady seducing and purposefully confusing a poor victimized man, who only wants to love her, but not be with her. Because he is honorable and honest with his feelings. And also needs us to explain every little text and look she's ever sent him as well, so he can better understand how to not be with her.
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Lol. You're sarcasm is a different side to you.

...like a warm blanket to my moon.

I had no plan to reply to his message either way.

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Posted by Ellygant


In my day to day life though most people think I'm the most nurturing asshole they've ever met lol. It's easier to balance the sharp sarcasm with a little tlc person to person ha.
Funny, because it made me think of the "best signs at giving advice" thread:

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Posted by aquarius_man
i called on friends to seek advice regarding the matters of the heart...

gemini was too much on my side

libra tried to be objective, but again was on my side

aquarius - ''bros before hoes''

scorpio - heartless advice

taurus - understands situation well, yet advice given is bad

pisces - suggests hedonistic pleasures

capricorn - understands situation very well yet it depresses him to talk about it



Lol.

It's all a matter of perspective.

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Posted by MysteriousDreamer
I'm not sure wth is up with this Leo guy. He's been acting very erratic. Been blowing up my phone all day telling me he wants to see me and how he wants me to spend the night and make me breakfast the next day etc. Then telling me he wants to set me up with his friend. I finally agreed to talk to him (the Leo, not the friend) on the phone today and when I end the conversation and tell him goodbye he says "I love you." Wtf— Talk about a slip of the tongue. This man is nuts! He just called me again, but I didn't answer.

He sound erratic indeed.
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I'm not sure wth is up with this Leo guy. He's been acting very erratic. Been blowing up my phone all day telling me he wants to see me and how he wants me to spend the night and make me breakfast the next day etc. Then telling me he wants to set me up with his friend. I finally agreed to talk to him (the Leo, not the friend) on the phone today and when I end the conversation and tell him goodbye he says "I love you." Wtf— Talk about a slip of the tongue. This man is nuts! He just called me again, but I didn't answer.

He sound erratic indeed.


Well I sure know how to attract the weirdos. Sigh...

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You're not the only one.Trust. I've just learned to identify the ones that want to pull me onto an emotional rollercoaster and passed on taking the ride.

Not replying is often the best thing to do. Yes, it comes off as cold, but I can live with the title of "cold b*tch if it means I keep my sanity.

I can do crazy all by myself.
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I wrote this on the Water - Bearer board, however to those of you, my dear fellow Stingers, who have had experiences with their kind. Please do share or advise on this situation. --->



Hello there Water - Bearers,



The Aquarius in question is a coworker of mine, of one month so far. His chart is as follows -

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars

Stinger Jupiter

Libran Saturn

Centaur Uranus

Centaur Neptune

Libran Pluto




For a while, it was rather difficult working with this Water - Bearer. He seemed all over the place, uncomfortable, and forgetful. However recently, he has finally let his guard down after my gentle coaxing and gaining of his trust. It took me a while to realise how sensitive he is, surprisingly so, he has to be treated gently, more than I would others. He is logical in abstract concepts, but very sensitive regarding interpersonal connections. He was not as valuable a team player before, but he has since become much better as I have figured out his work patterns by getting to know him and his personality a bit more.

However, when he opened up, he more than opened up. He told me about his past, his childhood, his reckless days, his regrets, his family, his friends, his hobbies, his losses, his past and recent relationship, etc. There were a lot of common ground in our backgrounds, which made it easier for us to relate to one another. For all that closed up, wound up, tightness, suddenly this flow of information came out of him. After it all, he even said I have never felt this good in a while, I feel like I owe you something. That comment confused me, as a Stinger, we often merely listen.

Although, this is where it gets rather confusing. In all that he shared, we also spoke of our respective significant others. He has a Mermaid SO, whilst I have a Virgent SO. After sharing the initial stories, regarding how we met each other, our stories, and pasts etc. He asked a few questions, simple ones, but he was not keen to hear more about my SO, and quickly moved on to talk about his own. He proposed to her about a month ago (a week before he became my coworker). Politely as anyone would, I asked how they met, their story, the proposal, the wedding details etc. He told me, but throughout it all he seemed rather unenthusiastic and stressed more than anything else.

Then it hit, he is having regrets and doubts. He had only known his Mermaid SO for two years, because he was noticing everyone around him getting married, settling, having children. I assume the pressure got to him, or he felt it was time since his Mermaid SO has hinted at it for a long while. Therefore, he simply went out, got a ring, and proposed but he has woken up from the stupor of it all and realised he has a lot of issues with her. They have already booked, planned, and partially paid for their destination wedding, told friends and family, therefore taking it all back would be very difficult.

It was a dam broken loose, he said he no longer felt like himself anymore. He has had to submit to her and her whims because she is rather possessive and controlling. She had made him cut contact with life long friends (male and female), and even his best female friend which he had known for a greater part of his life. As we all know, to Water - Bearers, friends are equivalent to family, he even said so himself. He said she took away a greater part of what makes him, him. She only lets him keep the friends she approves of. He is worried about living with her, whether marrying her would be the right choice given how caged up he already feels now. He keeps reminiscent of the past, of being himself. When I heard this, I found it strangely sad, to see someone unable to be who he wants to be but has to change himself into someone he is not, because he wants his SO happy, thereby making himself miserable.

He wants to be independent, free to a degree, spontaneous, and an individual ... traits of a Water - Bearer, essentially. Yet, she wants full control, to the point that she could not go for an hour without contact with him. At work, everyone notices how he has his phone attached to him, because she expects replies from him constantly so. God forbid, he ever disappeared for a few hours, to enjoy time by himself, for himself. He keeps telling me, I do not know, the trust is not there. I have been very patient with her, I would not betray her, but she is making me doubt everything and I am not sure if this will ever change. I could only submit for so long before I explode.

Advice, he kept asking me for it. Considering, I do not know him for long enough, nor have I heard her side of the story I could hardly give non biased advice. Therefore, I listened to him and gave a woman's point of view of certain situations more so than advice itself. When he kept repeating his doubts, I kept reminding him that he chose her, that he loved her enough to propose, and that he is marrying her - no ? He only had this sad doubtful look on his face. He also told me positive traits about her, but he seems to try to convince himself that she is good enough, and trying to convince me that she has good qualities too. I have never heard anyone try that hard to convince someone to believe that he believes she is good.

He also told me positive traits about her, but he seems to try to convince himself that she is good enough, and trying to convince me that she has good qualities too. I have never heard anyone try that hard to convince someone to believe that he believes she is good.



Why would he open up, suddenly, like this ? ... because it is confusing and I do not know how to best support this coworker. Is he looking for a friend to rely on at work ? ... because I did notice once he is much more comfortable, he works far better. What does he want and what would you advise me do ?



[For a fact, I know Water - Bearers would never truly open up like this unless if they have a degree of trust in you / they feel safe / comfortable around you.]
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Posted by ellesbelles
I'm here for ten days, that's it.

10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1......TEN DAYS

Then I'm off again.

Maybe won't delete but linger.

i finally went behind my fixed placements back and made the plunge (lol) and my new employer is flying me out to meet them in 10 days.....then my last day with cap boss is two weeks after that.

I'm going west first instead of south but it's exactly what i was looking for!

I AM SO EXCITEDEDEDED!
Hi Elle 🙂

Congrats!
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Posted by ellesbelles
I'm here for ten days, that's it.

10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1......TEN DAYS

Then I'm off again.

Maybe won't delete but linger.

i finally went behind my fixed placements back and made the plunge (lol) and my new employer is flying me out to meet them in 10 days.....then my last day with cap boss is two weeks after that.

I'm going west first instead of south but it's exactly what i was looking for!

I AM SO EXCITEDEDEDED!
ELLE! 😄

Welcome back dear fellow Stinger.

What great news to hear your career moving forward and in interesting directions as well.

It is good to have you back around these parts, even if temporarily.
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@theladyscorpio

Long story short, because I feel lied to and taken for granted. But I've switched jobs a lot in my adult life and I don't want to develop a habit/reputation of running from problems or not sticking things out.

Long story version: I was hired in at an hourly rate that was about $ 8,000 less annually than what I had been making at my previous salaried job. They addressed this during my interview, but stressed that over-time would make up for the difference in pay. And it did.

Then earlier this year they said there was no more over-time (or over time pay) without preapproval from your manager. But there was a shit ton of work to do so it was always approved.

Then they came back and said they would be moving us to salary - at our current hourly rate. At this point i'd been there for about 9 months so I asked if I could set up a performance review and/or raise schedule. They discussed and said that would happen closer to the year mark. A month later I found out what my raise would be.

It's still $ 5,000 less than my previous job. And $ 2,000- $ 3,000 less than the salary they start the brokers at. And the brokers get commission on top of their salary. Even though we do the majority of the work for them.

I had previously asked in January and February about moving over to the brokerage side. They told me they weren't hiring at the moment but would "keep me in mind". Over the summer, they then moved 2 other people from my department over the brokerage.

Person 1 is a female (who I adore). She evidently had asked earlier this year as well and then followed up ("pestered" is the word they used) every two weeks until they said yes.

Person 2 is a male. He off handedly expressed interest once and they moved him over shortly after.

I understand tenacity and persistence pays off.. But recognition and acknowledgment also go a long way. And i dont feel recognized or appreciated by the company.
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Should I quit my job?

Decisions decisions :/
Yes and move to Atlanta.

😛

Selfishness aside, when it comes to leaving jobs I notice the right moment always hits that shows you when the time is right.

Eventually after enough stagnation or bullshit or both, it will become clear what the only option is. In the meantime, be open to opportunities around you that your normally might brush off.
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?

The fancy restaurant I work at part time has offered me several different promotions over the last year and a half. I'm finally leaning towards saying yes but I'm scared.

If I do, you for sure have to come up and have a 5 course dinner, complete with wine pairings, with me.

Imma get you tipsy and show you the sights!
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Posted by Andalusia
Should I quit my job?

Decisions decisions :/
Yes and move to Atlanta.

😛

Selfishness aside, when it comes to leaving jobs I notice the right moment always hits that shows you when the time is right.

Eventually after enough stagnation or bullshit or both, it will become clear what the only option is. In the meantime, be open to opportunities around you that your normally might brush off.
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The fancy restaurant I work at part time has offered me several different promotions over the last year and a half. I'm finally leaning towards saying yes but I'm scared.

If I do, you for sure have to come up and have a 5 course dinner, complete with wine pairings, with me.

Imma get you tipsy and show you the sights!
Yaaaaaaas!!! I love me some fancy restaurants, wine, being tipsy while seeing sights and Melly so I see no negatives in this scenario.

Are they offering you management positions? The money can be quite nice in that. The hours are rough if the company doesn't prioritize labor properly though.

Any sort of true management talent is hard to come by in food. Most people have to settle for second best. The lazy settle for warm bodies. If they like you they'll keep offering most likely.
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They offered to create a position for me. 40-45 hours a week, broken down how ever I'd like.

Office work/booking large parties and talk g reservations would be required. Monday-friday from at least 12 to 4 is really the only set time frame.

Other than that I could: manage, food run, work off-site events, be the 'Head Hostess or Maitre'de, serve, or be a bar back.

Depending on the day and what I wanted/What was needed.

I've worked there long enough to know they're being sincere, too.
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@theladyscorpio

Long story short, because I feel lied to and taken for granted. But I've switched jobs a lot in my adult life and I don't want to develop a habit/reputation of running from problems or not sticking things out.

Long story version: I was hired in at an hourly rate that was about $ 8,000 less annually than what I had been making at my previous salaried job. They addressed this during my interview, but stressed that over-time would make up for the difference in pay. And it did.

Then earlier this year they said there was no more over-time (or over time pay) without preapproval from your manager. But there was a shit ton of work to do so it was always approved.

Then they came back and said they would be moving us to salary - at our current hourly rate. At this point i'd been there for about 9 months so I asked if I could set up a performance review and/or raise schedule. They discussed and said that would happen closer to the year mark. A month later I found out what my raise would be.

It's still $ 5,000 less than my previous job. And $ 2,000- $ 3,000 less than the salary they start the brokers at. And the brokers get commission on top of their salary. Even though we do the majority of the work for them.

I had previously asked in January and February about moving over to the brokerage side. They told me they weren't hiring at the moment but would "keep me in mind". Over the summer, they then moved 2 other people from my department over the brokerage.

Person 1 is a female (who I adore). She evidently had asked earlier this year as well and then followed up ("pestered" is the word they used) every two weeks until they said yes.

Person 2 is a male. He off handedly expressed interest once and they moved him over shortly after.

I understand tenacity and persistence pays off.. But recognition and acknowledgment also go a long way. And i dont feel recognized or appreciated by the company.
Melly, then leave, you have already made your intentions known and if they cannot see where you want to go or what you wish to do for the company on mutual benefits then the situation no longer serves you.

Your efforts are better expended elsewhere, especially before you burn out with the extra work load on a lower pay. After all, satisfaction and happiness professionally, does make a marked different in your personal life, and you deserve better.

However, I write my advice based on what you have shared.

If a situation no longer serves you, leave. I also have had to make similar choices in the past, for my own career. Once you leave, you will realise that you were in fact unhappy, drained, and exhausted. There actually may be a better opportunity awaiting you out there. You would have to close one door, in order to enter another.
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I wrote this on the Water - Bearer board, however to those of you, my dear fellow Stingers, who have had experiences with their kind. Please do share or advise on this situation.



Why would he open up, suddenly, like this ? ...

Hmmm...you did say she forced him to cut off all of his friends. Sounds like he needs to reach out to them again.

Posted by TheLadyScorpio
... because it is confusing and I do not know how to best support this coworker.

Ummm, why exactly is this your responsibility again? (Air moon, sorry.....)

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Is he looking for a friend to rely on at work ? ...



Perhaps. I don't do that though, so.....I can't advise you beyond:

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What does he want and what would you advise me do ?

Leave this alone. Too messy.

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...I did notice once he is much more comfortable, he works far better.

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Then he has bigger issues than a controlling fiancée if he can't separate the personal from work.
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I wrote this on the Water - Bearer board, however to those of you, my dear fellow Stingers, who have had experiences with their kind. Please do share or advise on this situation.



Why would he open up, suddenly, like this ? ...

Hmmm...you did say she forced him to cut off all of his friends. Sounds like he needs to reach out to them again.

Posted by TheLadyScorpio
... because it is confusing and I do not know how to best support this coworker.

Ummm, why exactly is this your responsibility again? (Air moon, sorry.....)

Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Is he looking for a friend to rely on at work ? ...



Perhaps. I don't do that though, so.....I can't advise you beyond:

Posted by TheLadyScorpio
What does he want and what would you advise me do ?

Leave this alone. Too messy.

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...I did notice once he is much more comfortable, he works far better.

Then he has bigger issues than a controlling fiancée if he can't separate the personal from work.
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Hah, it was not my responsibility.

Quite frankly PR, I was more than happy to leave him to it and be rather distant. Initially, for most of it I was being my 'silent until when spoken to or required'. However, on conversing with my Virgent, he encouraged me to try to be a bit more empathetic and supportive towards him.

What he did not realise is I know myself well enough, once that dam breaks, I find it much harder to reel it back in hence why I simply keep most at an arm's length.

Yes, he seems to have an inability to separate the personal from work. I noticed this early on, but again as I turned to my Virgent. For one reason or another, he felt bad for the Water - Bearer, because he knows how detached, intimidating, and supposedly cold I could be when I see it merely as keeping it professional with boundaries.
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Hah, it was not my responsibility.

Quite frankly PR, I was more than happy to leave him to it and be rather distant. Initially, for most of it I was being my 'silent until when spoken to or required'. However, on conversing with my Virgent, he encouraged me to try to be a bit more empathetic and supportive towards him.

What he did not realise is I know myself well enough, once that dam breaks, I find it much harder to reel it back in hence why I simply keep most at an arm's length.

Yes, he seems to have an inability to separate the personal from work. I noticed this early on, but again as I turned to my Virgent. For one reason or another, he felt bad for the Water - Bearer, because he knows how detached, intimidating, and supposedly cold I could be when I see it merely as keeping it professional with boundaries.

I'm not surprised by your Virgo's advice. They can't help themselves when it comes to someone they feel are in need. Very good hearts. I suppose it's about balancing the advice you were given, with what you know (about yourself and your limits) and what you see in front of you. I suspect at some point (given his Fish's demands, expectations) you will either:

a) be hidden from her as you are his last "friend" he can confide in given he's been force to cut off all the others;

b) be suddenly removed from the friend list once he tell her about you.

Which ever it is (a or b) she will find out at some point. When that happens, as many Aquas do, he will become detached, distant, seemingly cold. It will have a "you are no longer needed" feel to it, and it's not to be taken too personal (good luck with that fellow Scorpie 😄). He will react this way not because he doesn't care, simply Aquas have the ability to turn (their display of emotions) off like a light switch. They care, simply refuse to show it. I will say this is a trait we have in common. Problem is, it may trigger an emotional response in you despite knowing why he's doing it. I say this based on (what I observe) of how invested you've become thus far.

End result....well, work becomes a less then pleasant place to be.



PS, forgive the bluntness of my reply earlier. My mood was.....well see the kitty gif lol.
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Hah, it was not my responsibility.

Quite frankly PR, I was more than happy to leave him to it and be rather distant. Initially, for most of it I was being my 'silent until when spoken to or required'. However, on conversing with my Virgent, he encouraged me to try to be a bit more empathetic and supportive towards him.

What he did not realise is I know myself well enough, once that dam breaks, I find it much harder to reel it back in hence why I simply keep most at an arm's length.

Yes, he seems to have an inability to separate the personal from work. I noticed this early on, but again as I turned to my Virgent. For one reason or another, he felt bad for the Water - Bearer, because he knows how detached, intimidating, and supposedly cold I could be when I see it merely as keeping it professional with boundaries.

I'm not surprised by your Virgo's advice. They can't help themselves when it comes to someone they feel are in need. Very good hearts. I suppose it's about balancing the advice you were given, with what you know (about yourself and your limits) and what you see in front of you. I suspect at some point (given his Fish's demands, expectations) you will either:

a) be hidden from her as you are his last "friend" he can confide in given he's been force to cut off all the others;

b) be suddenly removed from the friend list once he tell her about you.

Which ever it is (a or b) she will find out at some point. When that happens, as many Aquas do, he will become detached, distant, seemingly cold. It will have a "you are no longer needed" feel to it, and it's not to be taken too personal (good luck with that fellow Scorpie 😄). He will react this way not because he doesn't care, simply Aquas have the ability to turn (their display of emotions) off like a light switch. They care, simply refuse to show it. I will say this is a trait we have in common. Problem is, it may trigger an emotional response in you despite knowing why he's doing it. I say this based on (what I observe) of how invested you've become thus far.

End result....well, work becomes a less then pleasant place to be.



PS, forgive the bluntness of my reply earlier. My mood was.....well see the kitty gif lol.
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Yes my Virgent, he does have a heart of gold, and it warms me to see him see the good in everyone when I am much more cautious and dubious as compared to him. He has a pure heart, that is until he realises someone is using or abusing his thoughtful and kind ways. In which case, I have watched him cut off individuals like no other, without a seconds remorse, no sentiments at all.

I know option a, is currently occurring. You know what, that is what I find most disturbing. If and when she does find out, and if she is as crazy as she has been said to be. This could become a messy situation, and god knows what she would do. I have seen Mermaid friends of mine, do quite some appalling things in the past.

He has already tried to hold it back, and be detached, distant, and seemingly cold. Although that facade of his, always end up falling apart because I know he knows I know what is going on. In turn he attempts to backtrack and be his friendly self again, which causes a response from me. Which is emotional detachment (as best I could, which is quite convincing actually), in which case I know he takes it personally. You know our kind, self preservation and all.

Hah PR, I enjoy the bluntness. If you have or have not read my posts on the other thread. It took a luscious few meals with a fellow Stinger friend of mine, accompanied by a few bottles of Prosecco. With her wild antics and filterless conversations, courtesy of her Water - Bearer moon, did I regain a level of sanity. I do not mind it at all.

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Hah, it was not my responsibility.

Quite frankly PR, I was more than happy to leave him to it and be rather distant. Initially, for most of it I was being my 'silent until when spoken to or required'. However, on conversing with my Virgent, he encouraged me to try to be a bit more empathetic and supportive towards him.

What he did not realise is I know myself well enough, once that dam breaks, I find it much harder to reel it back in hence why I simply keep most at an arm's length.

Yes, he seems to have an inability to separate the personal from work. I noticed this early on, but again as I turned to my Virgent. For one reason or another, he felt bad for the Water - Bearer, because he knows how detached, intimidating, and supposedly cold I could be when I see it merely as keeping it professional with boundaries.

I'm not surprised by your Virgo's advice. They can't help themselves when it comes to someone they feel are in need. Very good hearts. I suppose it's about balancing the advice you were given, with what you know (about yourself and your limits) and what you see in front of you. I suspect at some point (given his Fish's demands, expectations) you will either:

a) be hidden from her as you are his last "friend" he can confide in given he's been force to cut off all the others;

b) be suddenly removed from the friend list once he tell her about you.

Which ever it is (a or b) she will find out at some point. When that happens, as many Aquas do, he will become detached, distant, seemingly cold. It will have a "you are no longer needed" feel to it, and it's not to be taken too personal (good luck with that fellow Scorpie 😄). He will react this way not because he doesn't care, simply Aquas have the ability to turn (their display of emotions) off like a light switch. They care, simply refuse to show it. I will say this is a trait we have in common. Problem is, it may trigger an emotional response in you despite knowing why he's doing it. I say this based on (what I observe) of how invested you've become thus far.

End result....well, work becomes a less then pleasant place to be.



PS, forgive the bluntness of my reply earlier. My mood was.....well see the kitty gif lol.
Yes my Virgent, he does have a heart of gold, and it warms me to see him see the good in everyone when I am much more cautious and dubious as compared to him. He has a pure heart, that is until he realises someone is using or abusing his thoughtful and kind ways. In which case, I have watched him cut off individuals like no other, without a seconds remorse, no sentiments at all.

I know option a, is currently occurring. You know what, that is what I find most disturbing. If and when she does find out, and if she is as crazy as she has been said to be. This could become a messy situation, and god knows what she would do. I have seen Mermaid friends of mine, do quite some appalling things in the past.

He has already tried to hold it back, and be detached, distant, and seemingly cold. Although that facade of his, always end up falling apart because I know he knows I know what is going on. In turn he attempts to backtrack and be his friendly self again, which causes a response from me. Which is emotional detachment (as best I could, which is quite convincing actually), in which case I know he takes it personally. You know our kind, self preservation and all.

Hah PR, I enjoy the bluntness. If you have or have not read my posts on the other thread. It took a luscious few meals with a fellow Stinger friend of mine, accompanied by a few bottles of Prosecco. With her wild antics and filterless conversations, courtesy of her Water - Bearer moon, did I regain a level of sanity. I do not mind it at all.

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I'll have to come back to this to respond. I have yard work and an unruly head of curls to tend to.
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Hmmm, so I was reading over a post in the whole "Would You Tell Someone Their Partner is Cheating?" (or something like that) thread and it made me think about my Fish friend. We talked about this once and I recall she said "I would want to know. I'd hope you'd tell me". I was quite honest with her and said "Tell you? I'd break his neck and then tell you at the funeral".

Me? Stay out of my business. Lol.



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Hah, it was not my responsibility.

Quite frankly PR, I was more than happy to leave him to it and be rather distant. Initially, for most of it I was being my 'silent until when spoken to or required'. However, on conversing with my Virgent, he encouraged me to try to be a bit more empathetic and supportive towards him.

What he did not realise is I know myself well enough, once that dam breaks, I find it much harder to reel it back in hence why I simply keep most at an arm's length.

Yes, he seems to have an inability to separate the personal from work. I noticed this early on, but again as I turned to my Virgent. For one reason or another, he felt bad for the Water - Bearer, because he knows how detached, intimidating, and supposedly cold I could be when I see it merely as keeping it professional with boundaries.

I'm not surprised by your Virgo's advice. They can't help themselves when it comes to someone they feel are in need. Very good hearts. I suppose it's about balancing the advice you were given, with what you know (about yourself and your limits) and what you see in front of you. I suspect at some point (given his Fish's demands, expectations) you will either:

a) be hidden from her as you are his last "friend" he can confide in given he's been force to cut off all the others;

b) be suddenly removed from the friend list once he tell her about you.

Which ever it is (a or b) she will find out at some point. When that happens, as many Aquas do, he will become detached, distant, seemingly cold. It will have a "you are no longer needed" feel to it, and it's not to be taken too personal (good luck with that fellow Scorpie 😄). He will react this way not because he doesn't care, simply Aquas have the ability to turn (their display of emotions) off like a light switch. They care, simply refuse to show it. I will say this is a trait we have in common. Problem is, it may trigger an emotional response in you despite knowing why he's doing it. I say this based on (what I observe) of how invested you've become thus far.

End result....well, work becomes a less then pleasant place to be.



PS, forgive the bluntness of my reply earlier. My mood was.....well see the kitty gif lol.
Hah PR, I enjoy the bluntness. If you have or have not read my posts on the other thread. It took a luscious few meals with a fellow Stinger friend of mine, accompanied by a few bottles of Prosecco. With her wild antics and filterless conversations, courtesy of her Water - Bearer moon, did I regain a level of sanity. I do not mind it at all.

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Good to hear it. No I didn't read the thread on the Aqua board. I stumbled on it by mistake because I knew you posted the inquiry in the Asylum and meant to get back to it and hit that thread instead. I couldn't deal with any Aqua logic for that day, so I made a quick escape 😄. Planned to come back to the Asylum then of course....got distracted so didn't read your post until yesterday lol.
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Hmmm, so I was reading over a post in the whole "Would You Tell Someone Their Partner is Cheating?" (or something like that) thread and it made me think about my Fish friend. We talked about this once and I recall she said "I would want to know. I'd hope you'd tell me". I was quite honest with her and said "Tell you? I'd break his neck and then tell you at the funeral".

Me? Stay out of my business. Lol.



Scorp hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Not to justify Scorpio hypocrisy, buuuut I'm about to justify Scorpio hypocrisy lol.

I find Scorpios, as protective as we are over ourselves, weare much more protective over our loved ones. With a friend, if their partner is betraying them in a way we'd know is hurtful, then protecting them becomes the overruling impulse.

Applying that to a partner, same principle follows. Our partner, even if they are flawed and have betrayed us, is to be protected. It's takes time and distance to not look at them as the person who needs to be defended against outsider interference.
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This. Exactly.