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Posted by Ellygant
Tbh, I don’t really care what her reason is. Yeah it’s just a site. But it’s marking a huge shift in my life, and she has shown she does not belong in this future. I deleted her number and messages. My last cut of 2018. She even still has a lot of my things, a few minor valuables worth about $ 100- $ 150 total, some have sentiment that’s irreplaceable(ya know cancer moon things). I don’t care. I don’t want them back.
That’s what it looks like when a Scorpio is done with you. Bye.


Posted by Ellygant
My libra friend of over 10 years just broke up with her boyfriend for the *literal* 12th time in 4 years. A guy who does drugs, cheats on her, steals her money, once to guy buy a prostitute, a few hours before seeing her. She told me she was going to break up before. I told her I was done analyzing him and the relationship and i was here for her to move on, but not talk about the same bullshit. She said she understood and I was right.
A week later she was fuming over some Instagram post. She sent me screenshots and started analyzing and wanting to vent. I suggested it would probably be easier for her if she didn’t check out his social media for a few weeks. She snapped at me and then asked me to analyze the original post. I ignored the message.
At the same time as this, I’ve been working hard to restructure my website and my business for this next year. She knows this. I finally published my new site and sent her and various other friends and family the link. She was the only one to not respond.
Tbh, I don’t really care what her reason is. Yeah it’s just a site. But it’s marking a huge shift in my life, and she has shown she does not belong in this future. I deleted her number and messages. My last cut of 2018. She even still has a lot of my things, a few minor valuables worth about $ 100- $ 150 total, some have sentiment that’s irreplaceable(ya know cancer moon things). I don’t care. I don’t want them back.
That’s what it looks like when a Scorpio is done with you. Bye.

Posted by Ellygant
Ok. I’d really like your input and experience here ladies.
Posted by Ellygant
I’ve noticed when reflecting lately, what I believe to be the main issue in me really being able to both love and commit to someone. I haven’t met anyone since the ex that can roll with my duality.
Posted by Ellygant
Sometimes I’m soft. Vulnerable. Open. Sensitive. Plugged in. Feel everything and share that in its entirety.
Other times, I’m sharp. Strong willed. Take no shit. Push forward and follow through by any means necessary.
Every man I’ve dated was attracted to one or the other at first. But lost their shit when it came to the second. 9/10, it’s the softer, sweeter and more vulnerable me they don’t understand. Looking back, this is where a lot of my dating starts to fray or hit missteps.
Anyone else experience that? I think I used to blame myself for it. Think something was wrong with me being both, so I tried to control myself to be one or the other. Now I know I can’t and shouldn’t do that.click to expand

Posted by Ellygant
The second someone questions me for one or the other or implies it as a flaw, I’m all but dead inside emotionally for them, romantically speaking.

Posted by Jules-ll



Posted by Ellygant
I think I’m both more often than I am one or the other. Only when I’m afraid of the other person’s reaction am I one or the other, as that’s when I try to control who I am for their comfort. I think over time it became a natural reflex for me to separate myself into different identities because I began to notice that each is more palatable for a specific type.

Posted by Ellygant
To be fair, I start out as both at first, the intial month or few weeks when everything is fun and no challenges or hiccups. It’s easy to be both when you’re solely living the positive interpretations. The divide starts to happen though when the more negative interpretations of the traits are revealed at the more stressful times.

Posted by EllygantPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Ellygant
I think I’m both more often than I am one or the other. Only when I’m afraid of the other person’s reaction am I one or the other, as that’s when I try to control who I am for their comfort. I think over time it became a natural reflex for me to separate myself into different identities because I began to notice that each is more palatable for a specific type.
Forgive me for overstepping (or perhaps misunderstanding this statement), but review what you wrote here^^ again. If fear is driving your decision to react in a certain way, even for someone else's comfort that isn't about changing for their comfort, but for your own. Perhaps on the surface it looks that way, but it isn't imo.
What I saying is, can you sit in that uncomfortable place (aka fear) of having someone not be comfortable with you and who you are? If you could, you wouldn't need to switch to be more anything for anyone.
Of course there is a fine line between co-existing and (please forgive me Elly I can't think of a better word) reducing that side of yourself that you believe will not be accepted.
I believe we need to be able to make shifts in our personality to co-exist with a partner
But that’s what I’m saying. I start out as both. And then when any situation involving friction happens, I’m still both. Then I get hit with being told I’m starting drama for no reason. If I try to be myself I’m told I’m being too sensitive and that I’m making them paranoid
At that point I feel like I am reduced and I wasn’t the one who did soclick to expand

Posted by Ellygant
Ok. I’d really like your input and experience here ladies.
I’ve noticed when reflecting lately, what I believe to be the main issue in me really being able to both love and commit to someone. I haven’t met anyone since the ex that can roll with my duality.
Sometimes I’m soft. Vulnerable. Open. Sensitive. Plugged in. Feel everything and share that in its entirety.
Other times, I’m sharp. Strong willed. Take no shit. Push forward and follow through by any means necessary.
Every man I’ve dated was attracted to one or the other at first. But lost their shit when it came to the second. 9/10, it’s the softer, sweeter and more vulnerable me they don’t understand. Looking back, this is where a lot of my dating starts to fray or hit missteps.
Anyone else experience that? I think I used to blame myself for it. Think something was wrong with me being both, so I tried to control myself to be one or the other. Now I know I can’t and shouldn’t do that. So I won’t. It’s so hard for me to emotionally attach now tho. The second someone questions me for one or the other or implies it as a flaw, I’m all but dead inside emotionally for them, romantically speaking.
If you couldn’t tell, things aren’t progressing with the Virgo. Lol. I’ll be surprised if we are still together by the end of the month. And I’m totally checked out of caring at all.

Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-ll
Speaking of Virgos,
Jules, do you find you have difficulty speaking up about something you want to change with your Scorp? If so, why?
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Posted by EllygantPosted by Jules-llPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-ll
Speaking of Virgos,
Jules, do you find you have difficulty speaking up about something you want to change with your Scorp? If so, why?
Guilty as charged, in the past. I would let stuff fester until I was volcanic, or shut down. Was raised by a mom that didn't want to hear my opinions or thoughts, so I learned to suppress. With current scorp there's a high comfort level to communicate freely, or maybe I've matured. Finally... By the way, my mercury is virgo too.
Not to impose my personal life on you, just a preface.
I urged the Virgo multiple times that I want to be a part of his life, hear about his days, why he is upset. He told me that’s weird. Only reply other than that was he said once that his ex wife (who he was with for 10 years and married 3 of those) didn’t even know what he did for a living.
It almost feels, like the softer and nicer I am, the more upset he gets, the more he shuts down.
I told a friend it was weird he didn’t want to talk about his job with me. She said I was weird for wanting to know, and that she rarely talks to men about their work. 🤷🏼♀️
:/ which is what I thought was standard in relationships. I guess i don’t know as much about commitments as I thought. lol.
ETA: I feel bad for even replying now cause I feel like I’m putting my relationship problems on your plate just cause Virgo and that’s tooootttally not fair to you. But I’m also trying this whole constantly more open thing for my life so I don’t wanna hide this. I just wanna say sorry I was emotional and I slept on it and I appreciate how supportive and kind you always are to us here in the asylum. 🙂
Clearly I need to handle my business and not get upset with things with the Virgo. Seems like he’s just not a fit for me. And maybe that he’s not as moved on from the divorce as he thinks, but that’s not mine to worry about, that’s his life.click to expand

Posted by Jules-llPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-ll
Speaking of Virgos,
Jules, do you find you have difficulty speaking up about something you want to change with your Scorp? If so, why?
Guilty as charged, in the past. I would let stuff fester until I was volcanic, or shut down. Was raised by a mom that didn't want to hear my opinions or thoughts, so I learned to suppress. With current scorp there's a high comfort level to communicate freely, or maybe I've matured. Finally... By the way, my mercury is virgo too.click to expand

Posted by EllygantPosted by Jules-llPosted by EllygantPosted by Jules-llPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-ll
Speaking of Virgos,
Jules, do you find you have difficulty speaking up about something you want to change with your Scorp? If so, why?
Guilty as charged, in the past. I would let stuff fester until I was volcanic, or shut down. Was raised by a mom that didn't want to hear my opinions or thoughts, so I learned to suppress. With current scorp there's a high comfort level to communicate freely, or maybe I've matured. Finally... By the way, my mercury is virgo too.
Not to impose my personal life on you, just a preface.
I urged the Virgo multiple times that I want to be a part of his life, hear about his days, why he is upset. He told me that’s weird. Only reply other than that was he said once that his ex wife (who he was with for 10 years and married 3 of those) didn’t even know what he did for a living.
It almost feels, like the softer and nicer I am, the more upset he gets, the more he shuts down.
I told a friend it was weird he didn’t want to talk about his job with me. She said I was weird for wanting to know, and that she rarely talks to men about their work. 🤷🏼♀️
:/ which is what I thought was standard in relationships. I guess i don’t know as much about commitments as I thought. lol.
ETA: I feel bad for even replying now cause I feel like I’m putting my relationship problems on your plate just cause Virgo and that’s tooootttally not fair to you. But I’m also trying this whole constantly more open thing for my life so I don’t wanna hide this. I just wanna say sorry I was emotional and I slept on it and I appreciate how supportive and kind you always are to us here in the asylum. 🙂
Clearly I need to handle my business and not get upset with things with the Virgo. Seems like he’s just not a fit for me. And maybe that he’s not as moved on from the divorce as he thinks, but that’s not mine to worry about, that’s his life.
You are never an imposition! You are always patient and thoughtful with your replies, I enjoy reading your thoughts and musings.
Regarding Virgos, we are much deeper than most realize. Our brains never stop going, overanalyzing and overthinking every s i n g l e thing. In my experience, because I live in my head a lot I need someone to flag me down and get my attention. This is why I have a great love for scorpios, you love to investigate and get to the soul of a person. And while it might feel uncomfortable at first for me to let someone in to do this, I appreciate that they have the interest and take the time to do so. And to go deep and get to know the real me, scars and all, and not demean but comfort me. This to me is one of the greatest feelings in life, to feel loved and accepted without pretense!
How long has he been divorced? It took me a real long time to be in a place to allow someone in beyond shallow interactions with the opposite sex. My advice would be to take it slow with him, let him gradually let you in if you see potential. If not, it's not your job to help him heal...
And I like talking to people about what they do for a living too, it's strange his own spouse didn't know? Is he into something confidential or shady—
He divorced a year and a half ago. They separated almost three years ago tho. She moved out of their place directly into the place of the man she cheated with.
In his words he is fine. I made a face once when he said that. And he asked me if I thought he was lying to which I said ‘I sincerely believe you don’t want your ex. But if I had to guess, there is still a lot of hurt you hide because of the betrayal and that could be triggered as soon as you start to really bond with someone.’ I said that the second or third week of dating? He shrugged and just said he was over her and thought he was fine.
When we had our fight weeks ago tho, he said I was being dramatic and he doesn’t do drama and maybe we need a break. Drama is a word he has only exclusively said about his ex wife. I said my feelings were hurt, and he had been disrespectful of my time (which he had). And I don’t do breaks, only break ups. Then he changed his tune, apologized profusely, said he really wanted to see me etc.
Since then tho it’s different. I’ve tried to have some more bonding conversations, he just sort of shuts down, unless he is drunk, then he talks nonstop. There’s a host of other small things that have dramatically changed in a short time, that overall speak to a lack of engagement on his part. And I certainly can’t rely on someone being drunk before they’ll be talkative or relaxed. We haven’t spoken for days now and tbh I’m prepared to keep it that way. It’s just a bummer. I think I’m tired of dating. But I’m also not young and naive enough to throw all my energy at someone who clearly has checked out.
He’s an accountant. Lol. For a restaurant supply and workstation company. Nothing shady lul.click to expand

Posted by MysteriousDreamer
Why is it that we take for granted what we have until it’s too late?
This has been weighing heavily on my mind. It started after finding out a close family friend was recently diagnosed with stage IV brain cancer. This is a lady who’s been best friends with my mother since I was a baby. Our families vacationed together, her daughter used to babysit my brother and I, and not only did her and my mother work together many years ago.....but her and I actually worked together at my last job for a couple of years. She was kind of like my second mother at work.
This is a lady who always was so put together. Everyday she had to look her best....always wore the most stylish clothes, hair and makeup flawless, nails always manicured etc. We went and visited her in the hospital right before Christmas. For the first time I did not recognize her. Someone I’ve known for years. It truly hurt to see her like that. So thin and frail, no hair and a big scar on the side of her head from the surgery. She was sobbing about her hair of all things....she kept saying how she couldn’t bear to be seen like that. My heart broke for her.
It really makes you put things into perspective. Realize that the unthinkable can happen and we don’t have forever on this earth. Life is so unbelievably short. What we have can be taken away in an instant. We take so much for granted. Just makes you think...

Posted by Ellygant
I told a friend it was weird he didn’t want to talk about his job with me. She said I was weird for wanting to know, and that she rarely talks to men about their work. 🤷🏼♀️

Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-llPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-ll
Speaking of Virgos,
Jules, do you find you have difficulty speaking up about something you want to change with your Scorp? If so, why?
Guilty as charged, in the past. I would let stuff fester until I was volcanic, or shut down. Was raised by a mom that didn't want to hear my opinions or thoughts, so I learned to suppress. With current scorp there's a high comfort level to communicate freely, or maybe I've matured. Finally... By the way, my mercury is virgo too.
Thank you 🙂.click to expand

Posted by EllygantPosted by Jules-llPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Jules-ll
Speaking of Virgos,
Jules, do you find you have difficulty speaking up about something you want to change with your Scorp? If so, why?
Guilty as charged, in the past. I would let stuff fester until I was volcanic, or shut down. Was raised by a mom that didn't want to hear my opinions or thoughts, so I learned to suppress. With current scorp there's a high comfort level to communicate freely, or maybe I've matured. Finally... By the way, my mercury is virgo too.
Not to impose my personal life on you, just a preface.
I urged the Virgo multiple times that I want to be a part of his life, hear about his days, why he is upset. He told me that’s weird. Only reply other than that was he said once that his ex wife (who he was with for 10 years and married 3 of those) didn’t even know what he did for a living.
It almost feels, like the softer and nicer I am, the more upset he gets, the more he shuts down.
I told a friend it was weird he didn’t want to talk about his job with me. She said I was weird for wanting to know, and that she rarely talks to men about their work. 🤷🏼♀️
:/ which is what I thought was standard in relationships. I guess i don’t know as much about commitments as I thought. lol.
Clearly I need to handle my business and not get upset with things with the Virgo. Seems like he’s just not a fit for me. And maybe that he’s not as moved on from the divorce as he thinks, but that’s not mine to worry about, that’s his life.click to expand

Posted by Ellygant
He’s an accountant. Lol. For a restaurant supply and workstation company. Nothing shady lul.


Posted by Ellygant
You’re right about the soft thing. I think that was the shocking part of the fight. I spent hours trying to craft the gentlest and nicest way to raise the issue.
Posted by Ellygant
And just an assumption, I also am more prone to being toxically co dependent than you lol. So if the other person can’t adjust my natural inclination is to change myself, which naturally I am trying to break that programming, actively. I think it makes me more afraid to put myself into a situation where I can see myself sliding into such behavior readily.
His patience was very alluring I’ll give it that. But it seems one fight and it’s out the window. Which isn’t really the kind of patient for what I need I suppose.click to expand

Posted by Ellygant
LOL. you’re too wonderful.




Posted by EllygantPosted by PhoenixRising
I'm just thinking about that convo with your friends...
"I'm really tired of dating"
Me: I feel that way sometimes too.
"I know"
Me: Do you need a hug (not a genuine offer if you really know me), or was that it?
"...I guess that's it..."
Me: *hug*
Nope. You’re not gonna do it Gemini Moon. You will not make me tear up
Damn.
Too late.
😂 😆click to expand



Posted by MysteriousDreamer
I feel you Elly. Dating really is exhausting!... I still have the mindframe that there has to be something wrong with me.....that I’m just not relationship worthy so why keep trying?


Posted by Ellygant
No fucking way I can’t stop laughing.
The so friend I was besties with five years ago? She ‘friend broke up with me’ over a long text message when I said I missed her and would love to get together soon. (The day I broke up with the Scorp the first time. I didn’t wanna be needy over text and thought it’d be more polite to say in person).
Her and her husband own the bookstore at the resort I just took a position with. 😆 yooooooo. Whaaattttt. Apparently their last bookstore failed so they closed it and have reopened a new one at this resort veryyyy recently. The odds man. She doesn’t know I work here yet. But her and her husband posted on the resorts personal network asking employees from other contract and incorporated businesses if they’re interested in working a weekend.
Current cap bestie says she wants to be with me when I popup at the bookstore. 😆
Universe is crazy man. 2019, no holds barred. I ask the universe to make me a stronger worker and deepen my spiritual practice, and it orchestrates perfectly for me to resolve a grudge I even forgot about. Lol.






Posted by Ellygant
I am not going to try to date anymore....




Posted by Oak
Things have been so intense lately, I don’t even feel like I’ve had enough time to take everything in 😅. I’m moving in with my love and I’ve never felt more sure about someone before in my life in such a short amount of time. For fun, I was thinking what astrologically might be at play here 🧐. Also found out his mother is Pisces, so it’s funny how we got on well straight away. I don’t normally get on with other water sun women.

Posted by Ellygant
‘Ode to pending eclipse’
I am not your sin eater
I am your sin seer.
To the alter of my softness
You offer emboldened protection.
To the alter of my empathy
You offer your own mystery.
To the alter of my truth
You withhold your fears.
When men visited
Greek oracles
of old
Did they ever feel
As seen
As you did?
‘If you fuck with me
There’s payment due
And it’s not I who collects.
So be careful with me’
Words,
That are hard to believe,
Till they are
sitting late
Drunk
alone one night.
An iPhone light,
Makes a peculiar sound you see,
And there they are,
Their Debt Collections arrived
While I was peacefully asleep.



Posted by elllle
Babyboomers are hilarious.
I use airbnb when I'm onsite with a client.
Their perception of airbnb, because it's more cost efficient than a hotel....is thinking I'm in someone's garage studio apartment sharing a bunk bed...and reality is I'm in a two bedroom luxury penthouse apartment with granite countertops, stainless steel appliances and a spa tub.
The look on their face everytime airbnb comes up is priceless....they get this..."I'm sorry for the conditions you have to live in" look on their faces.
It doesnt matter I send the listings with my invoice....they never look at it.
I am laughing on the inside.

Posted by MysteriousDreamer
Going in for surgery Wednesday morning and I’m nervous as hell! 🤢🤢🤢
On another note, I’ve made a decision to do something to better myself that may cost me my job. But I’m tired of always living my life for other people. Finally going to do something that’s best for me. This time I will take a risk instead of the “safe” road. This also makes me nervous as hell! 🤢🤢🤢
Pray for me 😬

Posted by Capri__unicornPosted by TheLadyScorpio
Should I give this Goat Gent a chance ?
Do it. Right now I’m a cap dating a Scorpio and it’s quite possibly one of the best dating decisions I’ve ever madeclick to expand



Posted by EllygantPosted by Jules-ll
Hello Scorps!
Question-How important are your exes in your life, specifically the long-term relationships and marriages. Do you keep in contact with them? Do they hold a valuable place in your heart? Or are they left in the past where they belong? Having eyebrow-raised situation with The Scorp, need some guidance on whether or not I need to kick his ass...
My Scorp ex of 5 years I’m still friends with and amiable. Friends as in we text occasionally, remember each other on birthdays and holidays. If it were up to me, I’d like to get dinner with him 2-3 times a year to chat and catch up. See him happily progress in life. I’ve been wanting to ask him that the last few months, but I’m not sure how to without making it clear I mean it totally in friendship and that I wouldn’t ask that of him if it meant I sabotaged any new relationships.
(I accidentally did that once about a year after the break up and still feel guilty. 😭😓 so I’m extra careful cause I only want to see him continue to be happy. Not prevent him from experiencing that.)
None of my other exes I keep in touch with though. Most had rocky or abrupt/inconclusive endings as well, so to give them friendship is a sign of respect and tbh I don’t really respect any exes except the Scorp and the Virgo.
If the Scorp is in daily and constant contact tho, and the nature of the talk is flirtatious or nostalgic, I’d be weary.click to expand

Posted by EllygantPosted by Jules-llPosted by EllygantPosted by Jules-ll
Hello Scorps!
Question-How important are your exes in your life, specifically the long-term relationships and marriages. Do you keep in contact with them? Do they hold a valuable place in your heart? Or are they left in the past where they belong? Having eyebrow-raised situation with The Scorp, need some guidance on whether or not I need to kick his ass...
My Scorp ex of 5 years I’m still friends with and amiable. Friends as in we text occasionally, remember each other on birthdays and holidays. If it were up to me, I’d like to get dinner with him 2-3 times a year to chat and catch up. See him happily progress in life. I’ve been wanting to ask him that the last few months, but I’m not sure how to without making it clear I mean it totally in friendship and that I wouldn’t ask that of him if it meant I sabotaged any new relationships.
(I accidentally did that once about a year after the break up and still feel guilty. 😭😓 so I’m extra careful cause I only want to see him continue to be happy. Not prevent him from experiencing that.)
None of my other exes I keep in touch with though. Most had rocky or abrupt/inconclusive endings as well, so to give them friendship is a sign of respect and tbh I don’t really respect any exes except the Scorp and the Virgo.
If the Scorp is in daily and constant contact tho, and the nature of the talk is flirtatious or nostalgic, I’d be weary.
Thanks for the response Elly. I feel like you, the exes don't deserve my time or attention. He's in contact and sees his ex wife, don't know how often or the nature of the convos. I told him that he's doing her a disservice because he left her, and by keeping the lines of communication open she'll never move on. He uses his grown children as the reason for having contact with her saying they have things to discuss, I'm calling bs on this. Lines need to be drawn or I'll end up walking away...
Hmmm. Yeah. The kids being a factor is strange, because there’s always a bond between parents when you share blood, even if you don’t share love.
What is it that makes you uncomfortable? Have you talked openly and in depth about your reservations with them? Is he dismissive of your feelings or does he have a shift in how he treats you after speaking with her?
If there are alarms going off, seek to find and correct the source of the alarms, rather than react to the panic they cause. Virgo and Scorpio are both signs that are highly reactive to their vulnerability being threatened. Transits right now make both signs more sensitive than normal.
If he’s being shady, it’ll show in his reactions. They’ll be more reflexive than reflective.click to expand
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Long story short I attract guys I wouldn't want to date and I've voiced some of my problems and maybe this is why but at one point a man came up behind me and once he passed me did a double take and wanted to know if I have a bf. I was in the middle of saying yes goodbye sir, total lie but needed, and gonna call him my crush at this point just stepped in and was like I am. Did some dude hand bumping thing and the guy left us alone.
Just gonna add I'm a blunt woman. I do stand up for myself and my loved ones. I'm very known for voicing my opinion etc ..and I've never had that happen before where someone steps in like that. I'm always taking care of myself
It was something out of a shoujo too I swear...can I hope for more? It was a really great hangout and he was so sweet and stepping in before I could for my daughter and held her when she needed a break
I feel like I'm losing my mind tbh. I have great self control and should be able to kill this crush but I can't for him. I'm scared of love. The only love that's done good for me is my daughter's.
He's a fellow Scorpio and we have a bond of shared childhood trauma which is why I have such a soft spot for him I think and ramble over...totally lost my cool the start of something but I'm scared. Love is scary.
The moment to ask him about it when a friend turned it awkward and said my daughter couldn't pass for his and it would be more likely they were my so....
And it was swept under the rug. I did message him later wanting to pursue this but nada back only sent pictures from the hangout.
Rip. I can't stand being vulnerable pretty sure hes feeling the same