Yeah...ok...this is for the ladies who are just too baffled by the antics of scorp men (and the ones who PM me 😛 ) PLEASE...dont take that new scorpio man you just met into your boudoir until you've gone here and typed in your birthdate, birth location and ACCURATE birth time.
Now if it says your moon sign is pisces, cancer or scorpio OR your moon is in the 4th, 8th or 12th house, please....PLEASE...just give up. Seriously though....you wont cope. I'm not even kidding here. The only women who can handle a long term relationship with scorp men are those who know how to EMOTIONALLY DETACH from them every now and then. I cannot stress this enough.
The most ideal moons are aquarius, libra and gemini. The WORST are stated ^^^. These are the girls that cling and can't let go. The ones who wait by the phone and try to ?emotionally connect?. There's nothing wrong with being able to ?emotionally connect? ? just do it from an emotional distance...LOL.
I know that sounds contradictory but what I mean is scorp men are emotionally unstable...they live in an emotional hell (most especially true for moon in scorpio). What you don't want is to get dragged into that hell, which is what happens when your moon sign is related to water. You need to be standing at the gates of his emotional hell so that HE comes to you when he seeks salvation and then retreats back.
Don't follow him in. Just stay at the gate so he knows where to find you. Trust me, if you follow him inside, you wont come out...well...at least not as a sane person.
Your mysterious, sexy scorp man may not realise it but his mission in life is to destroy your spirit along with his. Blame it on Pluto.
The BIGGEST problem with water moon girls is that they DO NOT stop at the gate. They push it open and venture in. (This is analogous to scorp man pulling away, becoming moody or silent and you start analysing, getting depressed and stressing about it).
Air moon girl doesn't notice or does but nevertheless gets on with her life. She can see the DO NOT ENTER sign at the gate and abides by it. Scorp man gets his act together and comes to the gate for salvation. Water moon girl isn't there. She went inside and got lost...has become as deranged as he is from the things she's seen down there while trying to ?emotionally connect? from within... or whatever. Air girl is still at the gate and gives him salvation.
So if you're a water moon girl and you think you can stop at the gates...or at least learn to, go for it...however I doubt you can...it would be difficult to go against your natural emotional nature and not have illusions that you can dive into your man's hell and pull him out. Nobody can...so don't even go there. All you can do is let him come to the gate (analogous to let him chase you, be independent, have your own life, do not make him the centre of your universe)....and BE there.
The trick is being able to emotionally detach and to stay at the friggin gate. If you can manage to do that, you'll be fine. It's just that it's relatively easier to do it when you have an airy moon.
They are cruel...cruel...cruel. MOST ESPECIALLY when they're so badly in love with you. It's almost like they hate you for loving you so much...so they try to hurt you.
They're nuts...and you just gotta handle the sh1t or get out.
Think about it this way. Scorp man needs to be in control...not just of your emotions...but HIS. When he loves you so bad...he has no control of his emotions. So he "hates" you for making him feel this way.
Like U'C'ME mentioned in the other thread, hubby put me through the wringer as well. We were 10 years into this thing and I could swear he friggin hated me. He almost broke my spirit and I couldn't recognise myself anymore...and yeah, the silent ones are the WORST.
They seep into your life and suck you dry like a virus.
Anyway, I decided I HAD to get out dead (possibly slit my wrists) or alive. I opted for the alive part and left. Naturally he tried to get me back...I'm guessing the tools in his torture chamber were getting rusty.
I disappeared for a year until he tracked me down. I didnt budge until he was begging on his knees. Kinda helped that he was flashing a diamond ring at me while he was at it 😛
Anyway, for the first time in his life he actually broke down, spilled his emotions and said "I LOVE YOU". It was a long road back but he DID change a lot.
haha newbie 😉 those water moonites and their PM's! No, but i feel really good about having the upper hand and just straight up ignoring him/cutting him off. I can sense a little weird energy coming from his side of the computer because hes reaching out to sting me but i'm not responding and nowhere to be found. But.. i feel like he'll always have something up his sleeve to react to what I'm doing. This is fun. its like my own little behavior management plan... and everyone knows when u start that plan,behaviors get worse before they get better.
Yay for you AriesSun...remember...stay at the gate. No going inside looking for his lost soul...he'll come to you when he needs you. Let him play his games by himself.
"except for the torture you had to endure to get there."
That's the point Ferdy...EVERY woman has to go through that chamber...no woman will ever sail through a relationship with a scorp man. Only the strongest survive...minus meltdown.
In relationships they are. And yes, I know all too well how sensitive they are. Which is why they do the things they do.
Maybe you should have a little chat with your brother's significant other. You will see a totally different side to him...one you may not even believe.
They are drama causing nutjobs. Plain and simple. None of us women want to go through all this sh1t but...hey, we do.
Honestly, of all the women I know, Taurus women make the biggest fools of themselves in relationships. I dunno why...
They will not hesitate to put family and female friends in their places, it's only when it comes to men of interest that they suddenly become balloon-heads.
Unless a guy is being physically abusive to you I personally dont see why you shouldnt give the relationship all you can...assuming amidst all the hating going on, there's still some loving involved.
No relationship is going to be easy...and scorp men are not the norm, that's for sure. So yeah, I'm gonna stick by his sorry ass until he gives me reason not to...this I vowed until my dying day.
I am a Libra and I never make a fool of myself. And no one makes a fool out of me either.
I am involved with a Scorp who is playing the "no contact" game for a while now. It is obvious he has deep feelings for me. He is so damn insecure I feel like killing him sometimes. He will flirt with other girls in front of me and it is obvious he does it because he thinks I will get jealous (and I do not, by the way, because I know he is doing it on purpose).
As newbie stated, the detachment in women is what saves us from Scorps. I am a Libra sun, Sag moon and I am too busy doing and thinking about my own things to really give a damn about his emotional internal dramas which are really a product of his insecurities. I like things to be idealistic and pleasant and sometimes things can be with him. However, there are many times when he makes an ass out of himself and assumes that because he feels a certain way, I will feel like that too. I refuse to play his emotional games. As a Libra, I care about what motivated people rather than how they feel. I believe that feelings are a direct result of thoughts and not the other way around, which is how Scorpios function. If I feel bad and i keep using positive affirmations, the bad mood will be gone very quickly.
And as newbie said, this man hates me because I can get a strong emotional reaction out of him and he is dependent on me that way.
Oh and MsPisces and all the other ladies who scoff at those who have to deal with scorpio men, ask yourself why, if you do a google search and look at every astrology forum on the net, why are scorpio men the most talked about men on the globe?
Do you really think the women are at their wits end because scorpio men are just too sweet and cuddly? Of course they have positive traits, but they are also the most complicated men you will ever find. I can bet you a million bucks that if you tossed your cap men aside and for the next 5 - 10 years decided, just for argument's sake, to embark on a torrid love affair with a scorp man, your fishie neurons would also be spinning in confusion.
^^^ OMG "I can handle scorp men"..."I fear that type of connection"..."I prefer Cap men"...no offense but do you ACTUALLY believe the crap coming out of your mouth?
How long have you been seeing this scorp man? If things were so great and you had such a wonderful connection why in the world would you be preferring a different type of man?
This has nothing to do with winning anything. It's about keeping your own sanity and not stressing. I dont understand my scorp? You're hilarious.
I think you need a reality check...the only person you're kidding is yourself.
I just gotta love you and your "true emotional connections",You're not even yet serious with this guy and you're telling me I'm na?ve? Listen hon, once you get past the friends stage and you're ACTUALLY in a relationship with your scorp soulmate, then we can have this discussion. Till then you're just speculating.
I just gotta love you and your "true emotional connections",You're not even yet serious with this guy and you're telling me I'm na?ve? Listen hon, once you get past the friends stage and you're ACTUALLY in a relationship with your scorp soulmate, then we can have this discussion. Till then you're just speculating.
I haven't conquered anyone. You think I still don't have issues with him? What I am stating are real life experiences. Take it or leave it. I couldn't care less. But like I said, until you've actually been in a relationship with a scorp man you can hang onto all the emotional connections in the world. They won't give you the backbone you so obviously lack. Just stick to your cap men.
So I am guessing the ones in mature relationships say "we have such a true emotional connection, he is begging to be with me but I don't want him" right?
It's YOU who is playing the games hon. You forget I understand the scorpio moon all too well 😉
Yes, that is the main problem with some of the women on these boards. They are too busy trying to make a man 'want' them, rather then being themselves and letting nature take it's course. They are told time and time again to just 'be themselves'... but... NO!
?I just had to counter your idea that a woman with a water sign couldn't work with a Scorpio man.?
Ok...first off, I said water MOON. The moon sign is KEY here. I couldn't care less what the sun sign is. I didn't say it can't work?it sure can, but in the long run, the woman will NOT be able to cope emotionally. And THAT is a fact.
When I talk about being able to emotionally detach, it's nothing to do with being a b1tch but more about being emotionally independent, so you can cope with the numerous things your scorp is going to inadvertently throw your way.
Water moon signs naturally try to blend into their scorp man's personality and thus lose a sense of their own emotional identity (which is what I mean by pushing through his gate). When scorp man pulls away (whether physically or emotionally), which he WILL do every now and then, these women get hit the hardest because they can't see where he ends and they begin.
Scorp men push if they feel you're trying to get too close emotionally. They have their secrets and they will not stand for any probing or ?emotional connections? beyond a certain point. Don't push through the friggin gate! Let HIM be the one to come to you, i.e. reveal himself. That is the point I am trying to get across.
If I could tell you the number of women who seek my advice about scorp men, online and in the real world ? I always ask them what their moon signs are, and 9 times out of 10, their moon is in water. And the story is ALWAYS the same.
?I know for a FACT, that isn't true?
Golly, I hope you're not basing this FACT on your scorp, who coincidentally you're cheating on with a leo. You know...the scorp that you totally have this divine true connection with but just cant seem to have a relationship with because...oops...you prefer cap men...but ?ya know Newb...earth signs are just not deep.?
You sound like you're still trying to find yourself, so I'm guessing you're still pretty young...in which case I forgive you for all that confusion you're throwing out into the universe.
MsPisces, ofcourse the scorp is begging you to be with him hahaha. Don't you know how they work? Wait till you've been in a serious relationship with eachother for a year, then reflect on the hell that he has dragged you through.
Scorps might be fun for a fling, but they're a totally different kettle of fish in a relationship and they ARE NOT easy. Your emotional connection might be making things run smoothly now, but i'd be very surprised if any woman had a smooth sailing with a scorpio man. They simply do not operate that way. And just when things start going good, he'll most likely throw a stick in the spokes and create a fight about nothing, just to toy with your emotions and cause a little drama.
Don't get me wrong, i lurve scorpio guys - they are great friends and you can't help but love them when they're your partner, as they really do give alot of the stuff that most women wish their guys would. But don't fool yourself into thinking that they're just like any other man, or that you'll have an easy time with one because you won't.
LOL...thankyou Oddball...THAT is one of the points I've been trying to get across...ya know? It's like these women go, we get along great or we're best friends...we have a deep connection...a connection soooo divine, it obliterates divine. You just dont get them cuz you dont have this drama-free spiritual connection beyond connections.
But the question is ARE YOU IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM?
You were best friends last year and now you've decided to be in a relationship with him...he'll do a TOTAL 180 on you and you'll ask yourself if you ever knew him at all.
As your friend, he's not vulnerable...in a relationship, he is. Scorp friend...scorp partner...same body...TOTALLY different personality.
NO woman...no matter how divine the connection...is going to have it easy with a scorp man. The deeper he falls, the more complicated things will get.
""I am a Libra and I never make a fool of myself. And no one makes a fool out of me either.
I am involved with a Scorp who is playing the "no contact" game for a while now. It is obvious he has deep feelings for me. He is so damn insecure I feel like killing him sometimes. He will flirt with other girls in front of me and it is obvious he does it because he thinks I will get jealous... ""
""Ok...first off, I said water MOON. The moon sign is KEY here. I couldn't care less what the sun sign is. I didn't say it can't work?it sure can, but in the long run, the woman will NOT be able to cope emotionally. And THAT is a fact. ""
Newbie did you use a site as a reference for your initial post? I am just curious to research the compatibilty with moon in fire sign. I have never really looked into moon sign compatibility come to think of it, only looked at how my moon effects my own character. Well mine is sagi so I guess I don't have a problem detaching when I want to haha 🙂
Nah...no site. Just from years of experience...studying couples...answering numerous questions from other women. I just noticed a certain similarity over time.
Yeah...moon in sagi is good with the detaching. I've never looked at moon sign compatibility. I try not to look at the theory and just compiled stuff from real life. My hubby and I have our moons square, which in theory doesnt work. In practice, well...I'm guessing it does 🙂
Ok ta 🙂 Real life experience is the best way to go when it comes to anything!
Yeah there are always the exceptions to the rule! Actually I noticed on one website, I think it's the dr standley one that says "remember, astrology is just the rules and rules are often broken!" There's so many variable factors with astrology that it makes it all a bit difficult to absorb at times. I guess it'll get easier as I learn and understand more about it though.
I am a Pisces and a Pisces moon and I have a Scorpio boyfriend. I have known him for 3 years, one of which we have been officaly together. We were closer than friends the first 2 years. I believe we are perfect for each other. Yes he is moody at times and before I use to get very hurt when he would disappear. But now, I understand why he does it and I still accept and love him for who he is. In the beginging though I would go through those gates as newbie said, but I always came back sane. When I would show him that I still wanted to talk to him and still wanted him in my life, that meant to him that I truly wanted him and accepted him. By me always having and wanting that emotional connection it has made us closer. He keeps me grounded, I keep him balanced. When he now goes in to his moods, I do do my own thing. But I.ll still try to keep in contact with him (LDR). A text, a voice mail, just something. I even asked him that once, "what do I do when you get like that?" he said "just let me know that you still want to talk to me"...so that there was reasurance that by me still trying to reach him, was what he wanted. So for my Scorp and from what I believe if I leave him completely alone with no contact at all and act like I dont care, that will hurt him.
Now if it says your moon sign is pisces, cancer or scorpio OR your moon is in the 4th, 8th or 12th house, please....PLEASE...just give up. Seriously though....you wont cope. I'm not even kidding here. The only women who can handle a long term relationship with scorp men are those who know how to EMOTIONALLY DETACH from them every now and then. I cannot stress this enough.
The most ideal moons are aquarius, libra and gemini. The WORST are stated ^^^. These are the girls that cling and can't let go. The ones who wait by the phone and try to ?emotionally connect?. There's nothing wrong with being able to ?emotionally connect? ? just do it from an emotional distance...LOL.
I know that sounds contradictory but what I mean is scorp men are emotionally unstable...they live in an emotional hell (most especially true for moon in scorpio). What you don't want is to get dragged into that hell, which is what happens when your moon sign is related to water. You need to be standing at the gates of his emotional hell so that HE comes to you when he seeks salvation and then retreats back.
Don't follow him in. Just stay at the gate so he knows where to find you. Trust me, if you follow him inside, you wont come out...well...at least not as a sane person.
Your mysterious, sexy scorp man may not realise it but his mission in life is to destroy your spirit along with his. Blame it on Pluto.
The BIGGEST problem with water moon girls is that they DO NOT stop at the gate. They push it open and venture in. (This is analogous to scorp man pulling away, becoming moody or silent and you start analysing, getting depressed and stressing about it).