Scorpio men and your moon sign (Page 2)

So I agree with your part way Newbie. I do detach myself when he needs time to himself. But I still keep in contact with him. So I have a toe in that gated 'do not come in' cave lol :-p But also too though, If I ever did lose him, I would be devistated and heart broken for a very very long time, I have that deep connectoin with him that a pisces and scorpios have together. I know he does too, he has told me some very deep things about him and I.

I love him with every single beat of my heart!! I had to shout it to the dxp board :-p

^ Sweet.

"In the beginging though I would go through those gates as newbie said, but I always came back sane."

LOL...I wouldn't make a habit of doing that though.

"I love him with every single beat of my heart!!"

Awwwwww :: hugs ::

"I do detach myself when he needs time to himself. But I still keep in contact with him.So I have a toe in that gated 'do not come in' cave lol "

This is what I'm talking about. Detaching doesnt mean you cut him off...it means you give him space...but you're not so emotionally stuck on him that you've dived into his hell and can't find your way out. Just stay at the gate....stick a toe in...whatever. Dont push yourself in. Which is what I said before. BE there so he can find you.

You seem to have the right idea TT. Your relationship is still very young...there's a lot more to come. I'm assuming at some point you'll live together...so you really need to remember that gate...cuz when you're living with them, the mood swings affect you more than when they're miles away from you.

" have a cancer moon and I have survived haven't i"

I dont know. Have you?

"I am irked because you are throwing out a message and it is not something that i second or even think makes any sense.....Just wanted to put in my two cents...."

I didnt say you have to agree. You're free to give your two cents. I'm just stating what I have seen. Simple as that.

If you're saying you were/are with a scorp and have managed a long term relationship with one, then good for you. But this is an astrological site so yes, astrology is going to feature.

Oh, and long term is relative. So if long term for you is 5 years, I'm sorry but for me it's just the beginning.

"what about moon sign in aries, newbie?"

Well LI, the fire signs seem to be extremely impatient...so I'm not sure how much patience a fire moon would have with a scorp man's antics. Still, fire is a lot better than water IMO.

"and if i may add i will thrive too and i will not be here 20 years from now still crying about the scorp!!"

I'm inclined to think that's because you wont be with him.

Although it's quite hilarious to think my comments/mere words can affect/irk you like this. I mean...really, if all's good at home, why would it bother you? Unless it rings a bell you dont wanna hear.

Whatever...that's your issue, not mine.

"Newbie, Your arrogance is astounding. I cant believe there can be anyone as pig headed as you are being!! Your beginning and ending tall tale makes no sense either!

It is something to be burdended by having to handle intensity and venting, but you are bordering on insane and have crossed over to arrogance! That combination is sad! Just sad. Beyond that no one can see who you are......your arrogance just covers it all up!

Let me tell you this much, i KNOW that i am much more stronger and much more capable to handle my life than i sense from you at this point! I am under no illusions unlike you.

Good day lady.....atleast in my eyes you are making a fool of yourself!! carry on...ive said what i wanted to say!"

See? THAT'S what a cancer moon does to you. I really think you just need to go and drink a glass of water...take a seat even...and remember...slow, even breaths.

^^^ Finally...you've calmed down.

Oh MsP...the sister I never had. Are we back for round two? 🙂

"This is an astrology board, and i wanted people reading your posts not to be misguided and you seem to be spouting from both ends of your mouth ...thats all!!"

How about we just let the people reading the posts make their own decisions, huh? And if you're so concerned about the poor souls being misguided, how about you give us YOUR story?

You claim you survived as a cancer moon. Survived what? I mean, I've shared my experiences...so don't be shy...tell us more.

"you still seeem to be steaming from your 20 years and tons of heartache though!! Poor baby. Take care..."

You've been saying take care since the other page. Surely that means you've stopped talking to me? Duh. As for steaming...lol...yeah, I'm seriously in need of your pity. So thankyou for caring.

"Say something with a confident voice, and people will believe you, no matter how absurd what you're saying is "

I KNOW. Isnt life grand? So....how's your day going darling? Still juggling the scorp and leo?

"hmmm..........i dont know newbie....i dont feel like it today.
Maybe some other day.... ok?!"

Ok

"So no more ridiculous debating about the master men of the zodiac??"

Nah...I'm tired. And you water moon girls just get waaaaaaaaaaaaay too emotional 😛

"""You seem to have the right idea TT. Your relationship is still very young...there's a lot more to come. I'm assuming at some point you'll live together...so you really need to remember that gate...cuz when you're living with them, the mood swings affect you more than when they're miles away from you.""""

To answer you, yes we do plan to live together soon. And I do very much agree living with him will be very different. I worry and so excited about it. I worry about how to handle his moods when living with him, but good thing tho, Im very independent. I can go almost anywhere by myself. lol So basically I can always find something to do in the home or outside the home to keep me busy. Im sorta the same way too, I dont like to be attached by the hip 24/7 I cant handle it...Im pisces an only child so I need my alone time as well. And hey if I find an adventure while he's doing his own thing, I.ll have a fun story to share when we come together again 🙂

"I like that TT - makes sense"" - Ferdy

🙂 🙂

Ferdy, I have been with my Scorp for 3 years in the LDR. Still going strong. He's handled it pretty good and so have I, its made things difficult at times. I would so much rather see and be with him everyday 😢 We've both agreed that living together would make things between us so much easier. He's a Scorp, so he wants me close you know? And we live close together, he's about 15 minutes away. So we are able to see each other and hang out. The LDR has made us stronger, we were able to take things slow and steady instead of rushing things.

"Remaining detached, is the solution for those who aren't emotionally connected to a Scorp."

Wow. BINGO! If you remain emotionally detached, you are not really "in" the relationship, and Scorpio will know that. They can feel it. If you even have to pretend that you're detached, something's rotten in Denmark. That's game playing, not love.

"""""The reason why you are still with your Scorpio, it's because you love him and not because your moon is in Aqua. Your personality will sure keep you away from some issues with him but can also have you all tangled up in others, the same logic applies to other moon placements but no matter what the moon placement is ? if a couple sticks together through troubled times, it's because they love each other.

Hearing you speak if it was for his personality you would have been gone a long time ago, love is what's keeping you around. The smart thing you did, which a lot of us fail to do is to seek some understanding of him, basically saying to yourself ? Hey since we're in love and we're going there, why not work on having a peaceful ride but deep inside, you wish that his personality was different. Water moons simply have to do, what you have done, which is to seek understanding and find a way to make it through with their watery moon."""""

Hey JD, who are you talking to right here? ^^^

""We should see each zodiac like a different car brand, where each zodiac sign pairing is a different brand. You can have one that performs better on a straight road, while another can do better on bumpy roads. One may take curves very well, while another can be slower but more comfortable but they each have the ability to reach destination. Whether you get there or not doesn't depend on your car brand but on the drivers.""


I really like this analogy.

Alrighty 🙂 just got a lil confused. But I like your post. Makes very clear sense.

"This is probably the biggest load of crap that I've read in a long time.

I think people really need to hop off the Scorpio mans sack. You all are making them into more than they really are."

I totally agree, jeez ppl scorpio men are MEN just the same. I dated 2 scorpios, they have feelings and are sensitive and insecure just like other men...

Virgo.....

Now ya know normally i would NEVER attempt to read a post thats been going for such a large length, but i was curious. Besides the amusing tit for tat going on, i've found this entire post very useful, it's always interesting to hear everyones battle stories, especially since i've heard in many books that there should be a AA meeting for girls who've dated scorp men and need to regain their sanity and be slowly put back into society.

Aside from that my scorps done the 'disappearing' act before, but always checks in to let me know hes alive. aside from the idea that most of the time im not entirely sure where our relationship is going, i know he truly does care. best part about him being away at boot camp was the written declaration of love (snail mail, gotta love it) and the fact that i went to his best friends party last night and got all the scoop i never heard. long story short i found out he spoke about me to everyone, didnt expect that much and was very surprised, not sure if scorp men mention their SO's to everyone they know, but definitely made me feel happily home!

On the idea of patience... and waiting at this 'gate', im all for the notion of rules are made to be broken! He might not like my lack of patience, but hes definitely talked me up to his friends about being his fav warrior woman! You only live once, lifes not about 'measuring' how far you can go, its about just going! you've only got one life to live and if i have to love and lose, then so be it. i rather be myself in every aspect then stop half way. being implusive is typically a bad things, but hey.....psychos get things done.

just a thought. *drops 2 cents*

Pffft.

lol

hahaha

Your numerology number is 4.

JD ! Darling! How's it going? Yeah...ok...in response to your post

"Water moons simply have to do, what you have done, which is to seek understanding and find a way to make it through with their watery moon."

Which is why I tell them they need to learn how to detach. Now the problem here is, when you mention the word "detach" the ladies think I'm saying you need to be constantly detached from him. You can't have a relationship if you're constantly detached. My original post said emotionally detach "every now and then" aka at the right moments.

We are all intuitive. However water moons tend to be more in tune with their intuition (are they gonna argue here? I'm guessing not). Now when an air moon senses moments when her scorp man needs to pull away, she lets him and because of her air moon, she's able to detach AT THAT MOMENT. She doesnt take it personally and pretty much just gets on with her life.

However, when a water moon senses her scorp man pull away, she finds it difficult to detach AT THAT MOMENT. She moves forward, instead of back, thinking she can "save" him or whatever. The closer she gets, the more likely he is to pull further away. Then she takes it to heart and feels things so deeply and becomes an emotional wreck or whatever.

This can work for a couple of years, but you can't do it for a lot of years. You simply wont cope. Like TribalTitan mentioned, she has learned when to detach. That's all I'm trying to say.

?I think that your opinions might be better received if you didn't speak in such absolutes;?

My opinions are received by the people who read and understand...otherwise I wouldn't be getting PM'd.

The bottom line is, people don't wanna take in the underlying message. They read what they wanna read then get all emotional about it...simply cuz it doesn't say what they wanna hear. Tough luck. Deal with it.

There's another poster...Branh...I think he's called. He makes a LOT of valid points when he posts but because he tells it to you straight up, people start getting hysterical about it. I mean ? come ON.

Trying to blend your emotional self with another in the hopes of becoming ONE is a big NO NO. No matter what your "true emotional connection" is telling you, you're not one person. You're TWO...separate...individuals...in a relationship. If you're going to start freaking out cuz your man has pulled away for a couple of days you really need to look within yourself. It's called emotional dependency. Water moons are naturally inclined that way. Not gonna work with a scorp man. Period.

Best get yourself a bottle of gin, cause you're gonna need it.

?Speaking this way does make you come off as very arrogant and a know-it-all. I know you've stated that you don't care if others disagree; you are entitled to your opinion.?

I'll pass a message across. If people wanna hear it, I'm glad. If they don't, I don't know them...so I friggin don't care.

?BUT then why bother to even post if your way of communicating is so off-putting that noone cares to hear what genuine points you really have??

Because there are people who actually read without posting.


However, I DO know what you're trying to say about the absolutes SH. 🙂

There are always going to be exceptions to any rule, that's my theory. I think whilst astrology can be a useful tool, you also need to be open minded enough not to rule something out if it works in reality, just because according to a bunch of stereotypes it shouldn't work. I can't believe how nuts this thread went lol!

?when men are turning away, they are not always "detaching" maybe something else that you are talking about.?

It usually boils down to stress. With scorp men, who knows? They get into inexplicable moods and I've learnt it's best not to ask...especially when it seemingly comes out of the blue and you know for sure you haven't done anything...you really DID give him that morning kiss in the same way that you always do...you REALLY weren't smiling ?like that? at the waiter, better yet, you didn't even look at the waiter.

You usually get the answer AFTER the mood has passed...not during. During, just steer clear aka detach. In the past when I got all concerned and tried to figure out what was going on, he'd retreat even further and then have this major outburst.

And it would happen because I butted in with my ?concern?, he flipped out and then we'd have an argument about nothing - emotions and my blood pressure running high. Something that didn't start out as being about me, has suddenly become about me.
See? I'm warning ya...don't push through that gate.

Unless he's given you the ?feel free to shower me with your concern at any point? card, when he gets like that, assume the DO NOT ENTER sign still applies.

It's not that they don't want you to be concerned. They do. But they can't seem to deal with your concern whilst dealing with whatever sparked off the mood....AND...they want to fix everything themselves...aka I don't need your help.

So it's best to let them retreat, deal with their stuff and know they can come back to you afterwards and you wont be an emotional wreck wondering why he was behaving "like that" and giving them a spanking for it...unless of course they're retreating without a word after taking your virginity...lol.

"The bottom line is, people don't wanna take in the underlying message. They read what they wanna read then get all emotional about it...simply cuz it doesn't say what they wanna hear. Tough luck. Deal with it. "

Eh, people post opinions based on their own experience. Everyone likes to think that because they are in a relationship with a man or woman of a certain sign, then THEIR combination is the only one that works. You're doing the same thing with this whole moon air sign bit. 😉 It may be true for you, hey that's great, but it's not a universal truth. Nothing about astrological personalities can be taken as fact, so speaking in absolutes about it is really quite funny. There are NO absolutes in either astrology or relationships.

I am with a Scorpio, and my moon is in Aquarius, but I don't feel the need to detach from him emotionally. He's never given me a reason to. He has moods sure, but I tend to intuitively pick up on what the problem is, and he does the same with me. In my experience with three Scorpio men, it has been my intuition that has proven absolutely necessary. I only detach from a lover when I'm done...and then it is completely, even though it may take years. It's a good thing I don't fall in love very often. 😛

I have been with men where I had to pretend to detach, but I never really did, if I loved them. Neither did they, usually. It was all a silly game. This is how I knew they were wrong for me.

If you have an emotional connection with someone you truly love, you can't detach. You can pretend you've detached, you can force yourself to detach if you've been mistreated, but if you can truly turn it off and on like a light switch, you should really be with someone else. And this doesn't have anything to do with astrology....this has to do with human nature, and the nature of love.

"I am with a Scorpio, and my moon is in Aquarius, but I don't feel the need to detach from him emotionally. He's never given me a reason to."

Errrrm...that would probably be cuz you're not even a year into it.

We obviously have different understandings of what the word "detach" means. I'm talking about giving the man some friggin SPACE. Now if giving a man space when he needs it means you're not truly emotionally connected or you don't really love him, then I'm glad I'm not a man in a relationship with you 😛

"There are NO absolutes in either astrology"

Riiiiight...that's why fishies say they're the only ones that form a "true emotional connection" with scorps that we earth signs will never be able to understand.

Face the facts...you only agree with the astrological aspects that make you look good. When you're called emotional cling-ons....then the claws start coming out.

"Right, because only air moons signs know how to give their man some space"

Like I said...learn to read the underlying message. If you can't....whatever.

"Newbie, the worst thing you can do with a Scorp is detach..that is like the kiss of death in the relationship."

Damn...so THIS is why my relationship is over and I'm not an emotional wreck. I was wondering where I went wrong.

"you have formed a relatively negative opinion about Scorp men in general."

I like to call it realistic. If I hated scorp men, I wouldn't be with one.

"If you detach...they will rebel--count on it!"

"And by rebel I mean detach completely from you; do whatever they want; and not give a butter whether it bothers you or not."

Well....nowadays it's usually him asking for cuddles. I DID offer to pack his bags and have him go do whatever he wants...but (sigh)...he says we're a team.

"Errrrm...that would probably be cuz you're not even a year into it."

I had a decade-long relationship with a Scorpio previous to this and was with one for two years before that. I know what to expect, but so far, he has surprised me. There are differences - one Scorpio is not exactly like all the rest. But constantly pulling away, doing the push-me-pull-me game, yeah I've been through that. It's the behavior of an emotionally immature man. My response is to end it because my needs can't be met with someone who is unwilling to put in the time and effort, and my needs are just as important as his. If you accept it (and say you're just "detaching"), they will continue to do it...forever. If you don't, and they truly care for you, you'll know instantly because they come after you with a fierceness and refuse to give up.

No man will respect a woman who has no backbone. This doesn't mean you should be a raging bitch, but you MUST stand up for yourself.

"Now if giving a man space when he needs it means you're not truly emotionally connected or you don't really love him, then I'm glad I'm not a man in a relationship with you"

I'm usually the one in a relationship that needs space, not the other way around. In fact, a man has never had to ask me for space, but I don't need constant reassurance. That is not detachment, it is having self-confidence (which is not sign specific, it's developed during childhood). Everyone needs their space, but if a man goes weeks without contacting me, that is not a relationship. If someone truly loves you, they wouldn't do that to you, anyway.

"Riiiiight...that's why fishies say they're the only ones that form a "true emotional connection" with scorps that we earth signs will never be able to understand."

I know several successful earth/water couples. There are different dynamics in a relationship depending on the people involved, that's all. One is not better than the other, just different, and people look for many different things in a partner. I can only speak from what I've experienced and, yes, with other water signs the connection has been at a much deeper level than my connection with earth signs. This is also supported by many books on astrology, but I don't think this is all inclusive of everyone, and I certainly don't think it's fact. I'm only speaking for me, that's all I can do. If you're that threatened by it, that's really your problem, isn't it? 😛

You're very welcome anotherscorp. I'm always happy to make people feel good about the decisions they made.

Don't worry darling,I love you scorps too. A big pain in the ass but I still love ya.

And yes, I am stubborn mwahahahaha

all that attach/detach actions breed head game playing. i've done it and tried and it usually backfires.
maybe, "detach" is not a correct word for that. maybe, "giving him or her space" would be more appopriate. maybe, sometimes it's good to leave your partner alone for a few hours or a day to have them figure out what's going on their lives. sometimes, it is not you and it is them. i know it's hard and we all get anxious and imagine the worst. i'm guilty of that as well.

Don't know but I have noticed that women with Pisces or Cancer Moons are very gullible and easily taken advantage of.

LMAO

Im having a good time with you all.

Ewww she's with two different men at the same time.

What a slut. So typical of a gullible Pisces woman.

"What a slut. So typical of a gullible Pisces woman."

LOL. Blame it on the "true emotional connection".

^^^ Awwwww

I get the eagle vibe from the both of you sagigoat. You two must be older and wiser.

Ive honestly only seen this type of behavior in the women.
Most scorp men I know are shy and kinda dorky.



Sagi: Still refreshing.

Ms. Pisces....let's just hope you do not give your Scorpio an std since you are swapping spit and bodily fluids with another man at the same time ewww

my moon is in scorpio and the full moon was in scorpio last night. my scorp and i had the best time last night, hanging out and talking and laughing. opening up to each other. so, i guess the moon has to be in some water sign to have a great click with a scorp🙂