SCORPIOS why are you so........!!!!!!!!?

Why do Scorpios give ambiguous (vague) answers when you ask them a SIMPLE & DIRECT questions. Seriously, whats the purpose behind this. Drives me insane......
My personal example: "We've known eachother 1yr1/2 now & I really like you and I want to be more than friends. What do you think?"

His response: " I think we will talk"

arrrrgggg....(and we are in our late 20's) please tell me if I'm being impatient

yeah...he's a Scorpio and I'm a Virgo.

A well-developed and fully-harnessed Scorpio mind is a dangerous thing. I always play around with Virgos for kicks. Most of the time, they don't know they're being played with.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

There's a disconnect between their hearts and their mouths...which will pretty much last for the full duration of your relationship...if you're tough enough to withstand a loooooooooong term relationship with one.

Sooooooo..in short...ignore the bull that comes out of his mouth most of the time, especially when it seems hurtful...it's used to steer you from how they really feel - some sort of ancient scorpion self-protection shit.

Pay attention to what his body is saying. His actions and his eyes WILL NOT lie. That's the one thing you need to know about a scorpio man. He can say whatever he wants to say but when it comes down to it...he cant stop his actions and the feelings from showing in his eyes when he truly cares and when he's in love.

It's a look that will just make you love him so....even when you hate him...lol

I dont think scorpios like blunt questions like that. They will turn and walk away from it.

"I dont think scorpios like blunt questions like that. They will turn and walk away from it"

I don't feel that it's being blunt after 1 1/2 of back and forth and ambiguity. When I don't contact him period, he'll will send a text. Like he did for Valentines day AGAIN this year. And another a couple weeks afterwards. He doesn't pick up the phone and call and hasnt seen me since Jan and that was simply because we ran into eachother while out with other friends. How can a man be interested but doesnt call and doesnt ask to you. And is NOTORIOUS for coming up with B.S. excuses about following through on plans that were HIS idea to begin with. In other words, when I stop, then why the heck doesnt he stop if he's not freakin interested!?!?!?

sorry that was supposed to say "after 1 year 1/2"

"i think his response was rather polite actually."

and you're right, it was polite. But somebody please tell me what the heck it means. Trying to shake me loose? Try to buy more time? Trying to make up his mind? What the heck gives!? And not only that, but he said the same thing 6 months ago but my question at that time wasn't nearly as blunt. (just asked if we were on the same page in a shy kinda way) And 6 months later, we still havent talked but he contiues to text and stay in touch.

"And not only that, but he said the same thing 6 months ago but my question at that time wasn't nearly as blunt. (just asked if we were on the same page in a shy kinda way) And 6 months later, we still havent talked but he contiues to text and stay in touch."


6 months?

And the horse isn't dead yet?

Maybe if you keep pounding for another 6 months then you'll get your answer ... if not .. ask again.

You know...scorpio and virgo is the worst combination ever...especially when the man is scorpio and the woman is virgo. It just NEVER works out. Scorpio gets attracted by the seemingly cold challenge that is virgo and then discovers the coldness is no illusion at all (sorry to all virgo girls out there).

Scorpio is too passionate for you so unless you have an equally passionate moon or rising sign, just steer clear. I haven't seen a long term relationship with these two...and by long I mean 10+ years.

Ok...I lie, one of my BFFs parents are scorp man and virgo woman but he cant stand her. They've been together forever...for the sake of the kids I imagine. He is soooo miserable...and so is she to be honest.

So ST...the underlying message is...well...whatever P Angel said.

^^^ that's like telling an Aries not to be so fiery 😛

It's just the way they are FA. Like I said before, there's a disconnect between their hearts and their mouths. They stumble and stutter when it comes to expressing their feelings. It REALLY is difficult for them.

I can see a virgo stressing out over a scorpio because they are too analytical...they just need to learn to "feel" a scorpio rather than analyse him.

However in STs case the scorpio is not interested and even then she cant "feel" him. She's too busy trying to analyse him to figure it out.

Got to admit. Virgos don't do it for me from a chemistry standpoint.

Alright .. I hid that .. instead I'll say ..



The fucking horse dead, already ..... hello !!!!!

Whether Scorpio talks or NOT, doesn't matter ... unstick yourself from having to have this clarity so that you can open your eyes. 🙂

ST...just tell him

You want this don't front qu? qu? qu? pasa
Speak up cu?l es la cosa
Ven aqu? let's get closer and closer

Just say no-oh-oh
You wanna take it slow-oh-oh
Catch up well now let's go-oh-oh
Get up and run this show-oh-oh

LOL...sorry couldnt help it. The above courtesy of Kat deLuna feat Busta.

Apparently Scorpios don't like using words. They like talking with their eyes hoping you instinctively understand what they mean. But what happens when you meet a cross eyed Scorpio? Talk about mixed signals. *rimshot*

YEAH! HIGH FIVE! LOW FIVE! BREAK THE PICKLE! TICKLE TICKLE!

Foshizzle mah nizzle.

lol, this whole thread is hilarious .. what it implies.

"but it doesn't excuse him from not communicating with her at least in some way. I don't leaving someone in the dark is acceptable either."


FuckinA .. I would have to agree with you, but, let's be real here.

If a person was STILL asking me the same fucking question, after I blew her off 6 months ago .. then this darkness if self-inflicted.

The initial leaving her in the dark was his fault 6 months ago .. now, it's just being dense within her own darkness.

Yes, he was an ass at one time ... that was 6 fucking months ago.

doo.too.doo (in Carlos Mencia voice and slaps microphone on head)

I was with a Scorpio briefly. When he broke up with me it was really vague ("I'd like to take a step back and see what happens") followed by telling me he'd like me to keep in touch cos he'd miss it if I didn't. (Right).

Anyway we are in some classes together and if I was reading eyes and body language I would be sure he still had feelings for me. Really flirty, deep eye contact, little grins and winks.

Yet somehow, even though he's a Scorpio, I feel safer going with his actual words... So I'm not sure 'look at what he does, not what he says' works. Perhaps there is such a thing as an ego trip, dear Scorps? 😉

"I don't think Virgo women are cold. May be the Scorpio just isn't hot enough to light their fire, but I've known some pretty passionate Virgo men and women. I think it's unfair and very inaccurate to say they're cold."

We are very warm and passionate....but mind games piss us the FUNK off!!

"PA,
I totally agree with you, but I also think he needs to man up and be honest as well."

Exactly. Scorpios take sooooo much freakin pride in who they are but they are too chicken to face a person and tell them the TRUTH. Something that VIRGO does NOT have too much pride to do.

For the past 1year1/2, he's been random. And then time goes by and I dont hear from him, so then I tell myself that he's not interested. And mind you, when he doesnt call, I dont go chasing after him. I don't initiate contact with him. So if a guy wants to send the message that he's not interested and the girl DOES NOT go chasing after him, then why in h@ll would he contact her again just to repeat the same process. If he's not interested, THEN WHY NOT STOP CONTACTING ME!?!?!?

And me and this guy have never slept together at all. So I don't know if he's been expecting my knees to get a little weaker each time around or what. But his sparadic behavior is doing quite the opposite. It's making me put my guard up.

"So if a guy wants to send the message that he's not interested and the girl DOES NOT go chasing after him, then why in h@ll would he contact her again just to repeat the same process. If he's not interested, THEN WHY NOT STOP CONTACTING ME!?!?!?"


Because Southern ... you allow the process to repeat itself, so that makes you easy for him to play. To you, you fall every time to think, "if he isn't interested, then why contact me" .. so, this is telling yourself that he must be interested in me because he is contacting me = he snared you yet again because it's easy for him to do because this is what you believe his games mean because you want him to want you the way you want him.

The only reason it is repeating itself is because you keep falling for it.

The horse is dead .. it's been a year and a half .. I've said 25 times to you if I've said once ... walk away.

I don't understand why people do this to themselves, really I don't. In your mind, and most other people, they would ask themselves, "Why is he doing this to me" .. and that is faulty.

You do it to yourself.

"You do it to yourself."

P-Angel I know that you and I have gone round and round about his guy. My point is people not having morals and being inconsiderate of other peoples feelings. And it makes me sick to my stomach that any man or woman on the face of this earth thinks that it's ok to play with peoples feelings/emotions. When I state to a guy I really like you and I don't want us play games, then why the h@ll would he not say to himself, "dang, she's really is starting to like me. Mabye I should stop"

The answer? No he's not going to stop because he is hoping that since I like him, maybe I'll sleep with him. That's what he's been telling himself this whole time. And the dumb@ss game is not working.

Scorpios like to leave people in the dark. Because this leaves their actions up to the other person's interpretation. And what they are hoping is that they will read things in a way that satisfies and lines up with what that that other individual is wanting. That way the Scorpio lucks out sometimes and gets what he wants without even giving a clear answer. "Well, she want's me to like her. She already likes me. I'm not going to give a clear answer and then she's just going to think that I like her. Based on that, she'll do this or that...."

""We've known eachother 1yr1/2 now & I really like you and I want to be more than friends. What do you think?""


Oh, NOoooooo! You NEVER ask that!!

I'm sorry everybody...but I just have to vent right now. I p!sses me off when you try to do right by everybody. when you have morals and standards that you live by. When you consider how your actions will affect other people. And how you would never sit up and come up with games and things to do that are SELF SERVING to get what you want out of somebody else. When you're patient, kind, meek....and the list goes on and on....It amazes me that a woman such as myself can posses all of those qualities, yet men (this guy in particular) can't see it. And the sh!t hurts like h@ll. It hurts.

But yet men fall for the women that don't really love them and the ones that are self serving and caniving and only have THEIR best interest at heart. These are the ones that guys fall for and get taken advantage by.

This particular guy had just broken off an engagement when I met him. And it was all because of money. She even took the ring and pawned it to go buy a car. She never cared about him. She thought she had found herself a freaking gold-mine. (sp?) But yet, she is the one that he fell for. It kills me.

"My point is people not having morals and being inconsiderate of other peoples feelings. And it makes me sick to my stomach that any man or woman on the face of this earth thinks that it's ok to play with peoples feelings/emotions."


I understand your point, Southern .. and it is wrong to play with a persons feelings. I wasn't trying to defend his actions. I was trying to tell you that it's up to YOU to decide what is going to be allowed in your life .. NOT HIS DECISION.

And that is what I see here happening .. and has been happening for a year and a half. You are leaving his treatment of you up to him to decide at his discretion what he will give you ... and if this treatment is being inconsiderate of you, then you just complain about it being wrong ...... AND STILL AWAIT ON HIM TO WANT YOU.

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""We've known eachother 1yr1/2 now & I really like you and I want to be more than friends. What do you think?""

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A year and a half later, he's still being inconsiderate of your feelings to which you are desperately trying to grasp exactly how and why a person could actually play with another persons feelings .. and the answer is simple ..


.. because you let him do it to you ... and you even have an excuse for it, so you won't have to face the hard truth that by you still waiting for him to decide for you whether he wants you and is worthy for you ....


"The answer? No he's not going to stop because he is hoping that since I like him, maybe I'll sleep with him. That's what he's been telling himself this whole time. And the dumb@ss game is not working."

Above is the excuse ... he's not going to stop because he's hoping to get in your bed .. you believe this is what he's been telling himself the whole time, and his game isn't working .. but, you're wrong.

His game is working .. because his game isn't to get you in bed .. his game is to string you along and keep you pining away for him, so that when he contacts you, you will take him back .. so he can use your feelings again.

This has nothing to do with him, and what he's doing .. he was a loser a year and a half ago, Southern ... the problem is that you love him so much that you refuse to see it, and have become a martyr for this love.

And I'm trying to show everybody how deeply us Virgos feel things. People think that we are sooo cold and we truly the most sensitive people on this earth. People have us so sadly mistaken. We are sensitive and loving. And to other signs, playing with a Virgo is like having a freakin field day. We would never hurt anybody so it's EXTREMELY hard for us to wrap our heads around and digest it when somebody does it to us. We don't think we are being toyed with because we would never toy with another individual. And I've tried, I've gone on dates with other guys and the whole nine to try and forget about him. I've tried.

You're not being impatient. In fact, you are being TOO patient.

If he wanted to be more than friends, he would have figured that out long ago. It does not take a man 1.5 yrs to decide whether or not he wants to pursue a relationship. In other words, when you say:
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"We've known eachother 1yr1/2 now & I really like you and I want to be more than friends. What do you think?"

His response: " I think we will talk"
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He means, "No, thank you. I'd rather not."

The reason doesn't matter. If he can't be what you want or need him to be, then move on, or accept it for what it is.


I say this all with love and support for my fellow women. 🙂

"...that you love him so much that you refuse to see it, and have become a martyr for this love..."

Not once have I ever said that I love this man. We havent been in a relationship or anything for me to even utter those words.

"You're not being impatient. In fact, you are being TOO patient"

I'm a Virgo. Patience is second nature to us. We don't know how to be impatient. We are known for our patience and loyalty. For me, "wating" is as easy as breathing. It's what I've had to do my whole life.

Sweetheart

If you are being played or toyed with, you have to look at yourself and evaluate your own actions. You are misdirecting your scope. He has only dealt with you to the extent that you have allowed. By continuing to see him, despite the fact that the friendship wasn't moving in the direction you desired, you sent a clear message/signal that you were CONTENT.

You cannot make a person want you. I know it hurts 😢, and that is okay. Just know that his lack of reciprocation DOES NOT reflect your desirability or worth. You're still a jewel, just not his jewel. 😉

""For me, "wating" is as easy as breathing. It's what I've had to do my whole life.""

Yes, but you have to wait for the right things. Otherwise, you are wasting your time, and could be missing out on blessings. Because you are distracted by something that was never meant for you.

"ST,
You're playing matyr now by continuing to explain yourself. Stop it already and stop trying to prove to us you are this or that. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what we think or what he thinks! The point is move on and stop going on and on. It's getting old now."

Stop responding if you are TIRED.

i have the right to come on here and vent and get my feelings off my chest just like everybody else does.

""i have the right to come on here and vent and get my feelings off my chest just like everybody else does.""

You most certainly do.


Don't mind, F'inA. She is our resident Scorpio hater. Gotta love the fans. 🙂

"Don't mind, F'inA. She is our resident Scorpio hater. Gotta love the fans."

Thank you. And mabye I need to say this: Everybody, I dont expect you people to fix everything. I'm just hurt and venting right now. People just want to be heard sometimes. They don't expect you to have the perfect answers. They just want to be heard. Don't be so harsh on folks.

Well, not everyone is going to say what you want to hear. The same way you have the right to vent, users have the right to respond. It won't necessarily be in the way that suits you.

I just wish ppl would forewarn in their initial post. "This is ONLY a vent/rant!" Or, "Not looking for honest answers, please!"

"ST,
It's fine to vent and no one said you couldn't, but after awhile it becomes pointless for you to just go and on. I mean we've all shown you simply and given you advice. Now you just need to take action because after awhile if you continue to go on and on, the sympathy well starts to run dry and people just start seeing you as a person who likes drama and whines. And we've had several people here who've done just that, so we're all familiar with it, and many of us have lost paitience with it, so don't become like that"

I understand and I'm ok. I just needed to get it off my chest. Thats all. Thanks for listening everyone 🙂

"leave him alone and walk away"

FA, it seems like you have a one size fits all answer to any female with a Scorpio relationship problem

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Alright, I'll pipe-in here and make my own comment to this JD, eventhough you weren't talking to me 🙂 To tell you the truth, I didn't read the exchange between you and FuckinA, which I realize is being a hypocrite since I write essays .... so, if she addressed this same train of thought, then I reiterate it.

The above would apply to all relationships, not just Scorpio men. Since the Scorpio board is where you hang out, since you are one, and FuckinA hangs out here a lot .. it would stand to reason that most of reading this attitude of FuckinA's would be more apparant with Scorpios.

Here's my take on it .. when we read stories from people in here (mostly females), we are hearing about how horrible they feel in a relationship. They account for what they percieve as "bad" treatment from men, while coming here and asking for advise.

Think about that ... if a person is in what they percieve as "bad", and their own intellect cannot rationalize that bad means = leave, for self pride and dignity ... then it seems perfectly acceptable for FuckinA to tell them what their own mind cannot comprehend because their feelings have taken over all logic.

It's a rare day that a person comes in here to praise their partner, or cherish this person .... 99% of the time, by the time the woman has been reduced to bashing a man .. then it's time for her to bail while she still has her dignity and self-esteem in tact. Under these circumstances, which are pretty much the circumstances women are in when they come in here to flame their man .. the appropriate words to tell them is to walk away, leave him alone, don't play games .. just put your sights on the horizon, mind to new adventures .. and swim.

Ideally, it would be nice if women could comprehend this for themselves, however, most times they cannot because they are overwhelmed with emotions on a level that men cannot grasp. And this level can be very consuming .. consuming to the point that they are blind to sensibilities, and can't reason-out what it is they need to do for themselves to heal from a bad relationship.

And FuckinA tells them straight up .... leave, move on .. and that's a correct thing to tell them when their blinded by love that isn't being reciprocated.

P

FinA is more concerned with targeting Scorpios, and painting them in a bad light than she is with advising these women to protect themselves. She's on a mission, and it is both flattering and strange.

May I just interrupt with a post related to the OP? 🙂

ST, I'm a Virgo as well (with lots of Scorp and Sag in there), and I don't think it's true to say we don't play mind games. We usually play them with ourselves, of course. You seem to be in the middle of the 'I know what he SAID, but what's BEHIND what he said?' one at the moment.

I'm afraid there often isn't very much behind what guys say. They tend to be really straightforward. As I said somewhere else, I was briefly with someone who, now it's over, is giving all sorts of signals that he likes me. (Because it's not scary to have feelings any more I guess). And if I chose to torment myself, I'd be looking at all the posts on here about 'It's what a Scorpio DOES, not what he SAYS', and hoping like crazy that his actions speak louder than his words.

And his words weren't that clear. They sounded like they were leaving things open. I still see him socially so for my own sanity I've had to choose to BELIEVE what he said, even though ideally, he might have said it a different way and I'd have got what he meant immediately instead of analysing it for a while.

Men do this. (So do women, in fact). People are scared of being clear because - well, all sorts of reasons. Some even include trying to be considerate and mistakenly thinking it will hurt less if they are less clear.

How many months have you wasted now, when you could have met someone else who WANTS to call you, see you, be with you, take it further? Someone you WANT to sleep with cos you can't wait?

What are you trying to prove to yourself? I know, I've been there. It's a weird, freaky kind of closure that Virgos seek out. But it rarely happens. Why not analyse yourself a bit instead? What are you running from, that you would rather commit to this non-relationship than put your energies elsewhere?

Oh - and the being patient thing? I suspect to others it comes across as a mindgame. Or even stalking. Didn't you ever have the experience of a kid you didn't want to play with following you round at school, or waiting for you at Breaktime with a smile on their face,and your heart sank?

It's a harsh truth but you know, that's what we do to guys sometimes. I've learnt to keep my patience (and you're right, annoyingly it seems to be for life!) to myself. It freaks people out.


The awful truth is, these boards are full of people who haven't got closure. I hope ranting has helped.

Oh and another thought, ST. He was on a rebound, wasn't he? So how will he be able to think clearly, much less speak clearly? 😢

I'm sorry this hurts so much right now but you are right, you came here to rant and hopefully it has helped.

Hugs.

SAV x

To answer the initial question ST, every scorpio guy i've ever come across knows when he wants a girl, and he isn't slow to go about making sure she's his.

If you've known eachother for a year and a half, and he gave you a gentle brush-off when you asked about wanting more then it sounds like it's pretty safe to assume that he doesn't want to be more than friends with you. He keeps you around because he likes having you there (alot of guys appear to like keeping women at an arms length, so that they can bring you in closer if and when they want, if not they'll just keep you dangling) and probably likes the attention that he gets from you.

I know it annoys you that he hasn't been as direct as you wanted him to be, but by him doing so (not being direct) gives him a better chance at keeping you at arms length and also not causing an argument / hurt feelings that result in him losing your friendship and the attention that he gets from you (depending on what reason he keeps you in his life for). My scorpio mates seem to really dislike hurting people (unless they've done something to deserve it).

Imagine it's your best girl friend telling you this story, instead of yourself...If you value him as a friend, then accept him for what role he is fulfilling in your life. And if you don't / can't, then remove him from it.

I agree with ST, us virgos are not cold like others who think we are. We don't put our heart on our sleeves but when you take the time to get to know us, we are warm, passionate and feel deeply. I also believe Scorpio and Virgo to be a good match, my best friend is Scorpio and I've always got on great with Scorps. They are two very different signs yet they have great respect for each other.

I would really listen to FuckinA and P-Angel's advice ST, he is stringing you along and if you keep allowing him to do that to you in 10 years time you will still be in the same situation. Don't waste any more time on a guy who is clearly not interested.

***When I don't contact him period, he'll will send a text. Like he did for Valentines day AGAIN this year. And another a couple weeks afterwards. He doesn't pick up the phone and call and hasnt seen me since Jan and that was simply because we ran into eachother while out with other friends. How can a man be interested but doesnt call and doesnt ask to you. And is NOTORIOUS for coming up with B.S. excuses about following through on plans that were HIS idea to begin with.***

Contrary to some people's belief Scorp woman (self included) are much more straight forward and blunt than the men. Bluntly this guy doesn't sound really interested in you seriously. With eperience with one. He will contact you even after a falling out, call that is they seem to want to see you and hear your voice even when you aren't in a relationship if they "love" you and really want to be with you.

If they don't, then you will do all the calling and may receive a text or two from time to time (so I hear). Scorp men seem to love to be admired so the lack there of makes them wonder "was up?" so they contact you to start it again.

I just happened to stumble across this post...FIRST OF ALL..lets do the MATH being a scorpio woman..I will tell you that we are brutally honest...we do hold a few secrets I must admit....but Newbie and BA I think your being really harsh..In terms of virgo's personally I have never been attracted to one...their too cheap and anal neat freaks for my taste..I dont like cheap! Second this particular virgo...let me see someone put it so eloquently ...how many different ways do you have be told your being played..he is a man..Who is not interested in anything serious...it sounds like this is just a booty call..but the dead give away is valentines day he dissapears! PLEEEEEase. wake up and smell the game..my last thought Newbie and FU don't hate the player hate the game!

If a scorp is into you we do not play games...if we are not then you are the game!

Im sorry to be so blunt...but you just dont get it! This is not about scorp and virg its about a man who is treating you like a toy! Please do not view all scorps this way..a person will only get away with what you allow them too!

t939: "In terms of virgo's personally I have never been attracted to one...their too cheap and anal neat freaks for my taste..I dont like cheap!"

Hey, whats wrong with being cheap and anal ?!?!

But I'd swap the words cheap & neat, for practical & clean.
If you're a spendthrift, so long... and if your a slob, seeyalater...

"Don't listen to people who know nothing about scorpios other than making negative comments you know who you are A."

That's rich coming from someone who says all virgos are cheap and anal neat freaks just because you had a bit of bad experiences with them. There are bad ones in every sign and stop taking it so personally and just chill.

OOPs, apologies to Mr Nice🙂It's t939 i'm referring to.