So. I did it!!! Yusss!

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You guys have helped me so much... Just wanted to say...

I just let him know all about himself. It's like all the BS I know that crazy dude tells me, that is so selfish, hypocritical and one-sided. His control issues and mind-game all passive-aggressive shit. I just let him have the truth in the most matter-of-fact, civil way I could. No name calling, no insults. I was blown away with how I was able to let it flow and in the most crisp way possible. I finally just fuckin' busted a truth load in his face...and I need a cigarette.

Say what you will, but I have zero guilt and feel like a million MF dollars. I didn't say it for him. I said it for ME! Going to the beach to drink margaritas with my girls and maybe find me another Scorp for the summer... Just playing 😉


His response "Ugh Ugh Ugh...Whatever, grow up." Hahahahahahaha Child, please.
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https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/quick-simple-opinion-4043693/#4064095<BR>


Take this thread, for example from early June .... where she pushes her way into this private time with his friends and invites herself to a gathering, and made him feel really uncomfortable .. she went, knowing full well that she made him feel bad, and then when he wasn't mad at your shanigan ... she turned around and told him she was moving farther away .. just so she could fuck with him for being upset with her, and acting like he's at fault for even caring.


Seriously ..... can't be just me, the Aries, and Elle who saw that.

I'm like .... what are smoking?
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https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/sex-lies-and-more-sex-3802201/#3802202<BR>

Here's her debute to dxp ....

she calls this guy out for not giving her what she wants

so she leaves him for it

then when she thinks he's stewed enough (like 6 weeks or something)

she lets him see her and she throws him down and fucks his brains out

he gives her really good sex

so then she says he a liar and a faker because he's now giving her what she wants?


when all along, the bitch broke up with him for the very purposes of manipulating him into giving her what she wants, so how in the hell can use him giving to her as a weapon against him.

then she starts talking about how other guys want her, and now look at this man being possessive of her, as if she's innocent in creating this horrible expression out of him
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I really doubt he cares. People with those personality types will never be able to hear anything your actually saying let alone the truth.

It just sort of is a waste of your breathe really. He'll just write you off as a critical bitch, or say " i know I'm not perfect but YOU " thats as close as you get.


So if it made you feel better, cool but that won't get you power over him.
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Hahaha. I love it when a Scorp doesn't know what to say. lmao

Oh by the way, give it a day or two and you WILL get his retort. Prepare yourself. lol

I can't wait to hear *that* story. 😄




yeap - was thinking the same. as in "you aint heard shit yet girl" - ohhh vey!
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I seconded, .that Scorpio ain't done yet, hope u have enough body armor
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Posted by Neurotoxin
A) He didn't really fight for her to begin with. I don't see him exerting any effort to get revenge.

B) Not all Scorpios care about getting revenge. That's just Internet astrology site generalization.

C) Revenge doesn't always have to be some big dramatic show. Sometimes the best revenge is to simply let go and be happy despite the other person doing the whole over analyzation and obsession with an ex scorp.



Absolutely could not agree more with all 3 points!!! Especially #2!
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I agree with everyone. Who knows if he cares or doesn't? I don't, you don't. I've never denied I was fucked in the situation. Its been crazy for all parties. Im just saying that it felt good to be honest about all matters. I feel like i needed to do that. I didnt insult him, just expressed how I felt. People have taken their time and given me great advice. I just feel good about this right now, and I haven't in awhile.
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Posted by P-Angel

https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/quick-simple-opinion-4043693/#4064095<BR>


Take this thread, for example from early June .... where she pushes her way into this private time with his friends and invites herself to a gathering, and made him feel really uncomfortable .. she went, knowing full well that she made him feel bad, and then when he wasn't mad at your shanigan ... she turned around and told him she was moving farther away .. just so she could fuck with him for being upset with her, and acting like he's at fault for even caring.


Seriously ..... can't be just me, the Aries, and Elle who saw that.

I'm like .... what are smoking?




I can see your point on the other thread. However, this isn't at all the truth on this situation.
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Posted by Neurotoxin
A) He didn't really fight for her to begin with. I don't see him exerting any effort to get revenge.

B) Not all Scorpios care about getting revenge. That's just Internet astrology site generalization.

C) Revenge doesn't always have to be some big dramatic show. Sometimes the best revenge is to simply let go and be happy despite the other person doing the whole over analyzation and obsession with an ex scorp.



+1
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Posted by Neurotoxin
A) He didn't really fight for her to begin with. I don't see him exerting any effort to get revenge.

B) Not all Scorpios care about getting revenge. That's just Internet astrology site generalization.

C) Revenge doesn't always have to be some big dramatic show. Sometimes the best revenge is to simply let go and be happy despite the other person doing the whole over analyzation and obsession with an ex scorp.




Complete Truth.


Yet, we do not know which type of Scorpion he may be...
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Neurtoxin

"I'm tending towards A... After a little passive-agressive whineyness" Agreed!


Just add nonchalant texts and invites to hangout, with silent tantrums if I decline... Then throw in one dramatic drunken' convo of feelings, and I think that will about cover it. I don't think he'll get revenge. I actually think he is a little emotionally cowardly to do that.

I know exactly what he is going to do... Same thing he has done with me and every other girl from his past. Attempt to keep us on a string, while never actually saying anything, silently wondering and watching how we are.

Everyone keeps saying I'm moving to get a reaction out of him. No, I'm moving because I hate my town and I'd like a life change which includes a huge step for MY CAREER. No lie, it'll help get over this mess.

I also don't know where this idea that he has never fought for me in the past has come from. EVERYTIME I've left he has come looking for and asking to see me like he wants it so bad, then it fades down and out, rinse and repeat. THIS IS WHERE my confusion was coming from, from the damn start. There is no question to me whether he has feelings for me. Whether he will miss me. My confusion comes from his inability to speak and his INSANE passive-aggressive ways and my realization that I don't think he will commit to anyone, not just me.

He is an alcoholic that comes from an abusive childhood that I wouldn't wish on anyone. There is way more to this than me and him. I've been trying to figure out how to get through... I never will. He needs to work this out, I needed to have listened to him from the start "I'm too mentally fucked for this". I agree. I posted this thread to say, I finally got off my chest the way he has made me feel during this time. That is my step to closure.

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Posted by MellyMel909
Girl, you are all over the place. You say this thread and others were posted for you, but all I'm seeing is "him this, his that, he is". Why being up his alcoholic abusive upbringing? What point does that possibly serve? I have to say, I'm a little pissed cause it seems like you took everyone's advice about *him*, and then just used it to throw back in his face and make yourself feel better.

Why would you feel the need to tell him "all about himself" if you are completely done with him and if you were never in a relationship with him to begin with? What purpose did that serve? Do you feel better about yourself because you told him all about himself? Did you offer to help him with his perceived issues after you busted your "truth nut" all over his ass? Did you admit to YOUR issues when you called him out on his? If not, then what was the point? Especially if he had the type of upbringing you say. To kick him while he was down.

I hate to say, but it Seems like a bit of a bitch move from a scorned woman; not something a person with his or their Own best interests at heart would do. You BOTH are playing games. You BOTH seem passive aggressive. You BOTH should probably work on that.



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Disagree. I never said what I specifically said to him. I once again will say that I didn't call him names or say anything derogatory. I told him how he made me feel. What his actions have done to my perspective and also left with an open invitation for him to get things off his chest that I may have done. FOR CLOSURE. Once again, what happened—? Nothing. He said nothing. Text me last night, "what are you doing?" Now just text me good morning and asked if I had plans today. This is what i'm dealing with!!!
I didn't use any advice here to get to him. Im simply explaining my feelings, and what does it matter if Ive done wrong too? Does that not give me a right to have any emotions myself. If he wants to explain things to me I am more than willing to listen. The very few times in TWO years he has explained something I've been more than willing to hear it. The thing is he doesn't. Just like today... acting as though NOTHING has happened, and now more than he has in days, asking to see me.

Kick him while he was down from what? I brought that up because its the truth that I've been running from. I've put my shit out there and I'm not defending it. If he wants to some on here and start his own threads about my behavior then so be it. I only have my perspective and that's what Im sharing. Maybe I would know his if he ever spoke about anything... This isn't just me thinking that...its everyone we know. I have a right to tell him how he has made me feel upon my exit...he as well. I feel good about it. He was not a victim, nor I.
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He was the one who has very much emphasized being my friend, then going back to lover, then going back to friend. This entire conversation I had with him started over some passive aggressive shit he was doing with our friends that I called him on. He denied it. I stated that if he really meant what he said about a friendship that A-Z was how I felt he treated me. At that point he could have mentioned my behavior if he so chose, and he didn't. Instead he stayed quiet for 4 hours and still never validated ANY emotion I stated and asked if I wanted to hangout. That has been the story since the beginning of time! I have found myself doing things I never have done in this situation. However, I will not sit here and take that I am a bitch for saying what I did. I don't agree and I actually think in some weird way he respected me for doing so.

Am I taking him up on his invitation to go out today? No, I am not.

Am I moving for me? Yes, I am.

Have I done fucked up things in this relationship? Yes. Am I entirely to blame? Fuck no!
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Posted by heliumfiasco


I know exactly what he is going to do... Same thing he has done with me and every other girl from his past. Attempt to keep us on a string, while never actually saying anything, silently wondering and watching how we are.

Everyone keeps saying I'm moving to get a reaction out of him. No, I'm moving because I hate my town and I'd like a life change which includes a huge step for MY CAREER. No lie, it'll help get over this mess.

I also don't know where this idea that he has never fought for me in the past has come from. EVERYTIME I've left he has come looking for and asking to see me like he wants it so bad, then it fades down and out, rinse and repeat. THIS IS WHERE my confusion was coming from, from the damn start. There is no question to me whether he has feelings for me. Whether he will miss me. My confusion comes from his inability to speak and his INSANE passive-aggressive ways and my realization that I don't think he will commit to anyone, not just me.

He is an alcoholic that comes from an abusive childhood that I wouldn't wish on anyone. There is way more to this than me and him. I've been trying to figure out how to get through... I never will. He needs to work this out, I needed to have listened to him from the start "I'm too mentally fucked for this". I agree. I posted this thread to say, I finally got off my chest the way he has made me feel during this time. That is my step to closure.
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Posted by heliumfiasco
He was the one who has very much emphasized being my friend, then going back to lover, then going back to friend. This entire conversation I had with him started over some passive aggressive shit he was doing with our friends that I called him on. He denied it. I stated that if he really meant what he said about a friendship that A-Z was how I felt he treated me. At that point he could have mentioned my behavior if he so chose, and he didn't. Instead he stayed quiet for 4 hours and still never validated ANY emotion I stated and asked if I wanted to hangout. That has been the story since the beginning of time! I have found myself doing things I never have done in this situation. However, I will not sit here and take that I am a bitch for saying what I did. I don't agree and I actually think in some weird way he respected me for doing so.

Am I taking him up on his invitation to go out today? No, I am not.

Am I moving for me? Yes, I am.

Have I done fucked up things in this relationship? Yes. Am I entirely to blame? Fuck no!



Stop with the victim crap already. If there's anyone you need to kick, it's yourself in the ass for allowing him to bring you to misery. If he made you so miserable as you plagued us with in multiple posts, why the hell did you make the CHOICE to stick with him? Trying to inflict punishment onto him as a result will get you nowhere but exhausted. What a waste of energy. Don't you think? Take that energy and figure out WHY you allowed yourself into such a miserable situation from beginning (when you should have walked) to end. Only then you will find closure.
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Posted by MellyMel909
Girl, you are all over the place. You say this thread and others were posted for you, but all I'm seeing is "him this, his that, he is". Why being up his alcoholic abusive upbringing? What point does that possibly serve? I have to say, I'm a little pissed cause it seems like you took everyone's advice about *him*, and then just used it to throw back in his face and make yourself feel better.

Why would you feel the need to tell him "all about himself" if you are completely done with him and if you were never in a relationship with him to begin with? What purpose did that serve? Do you feel better about yourself because you told him all about himself? Did you offer to help him with his perceived issues after you busted your "truth nut" all over his ass? Did you admit to YOUR issues when you called him out on his? If not, then what was the point? Especially if he had the type of upbringing you say. To kick him while he was down.

I hate to say, but it Seems like a bit of a bitch move from a scorned woman; not something a person with his or their Own best interests at heart would do. You BOTH are playing games. You BOTH seem passive aggressive. You BOTH should probably work on that.




Hmm
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You might as well give it up ..... it is already realized that the only reason you did this to him was to get a reaction out of him.

Looking through your posting history, when you say things like .... he always comes running back .. or what you said in this thread ...

Posted by heliumfiasco

EVERYTIME I've left he has come looking for and asking to see me like he wants it so bad, then it fades down and out, rinse and repeat. THIS IS WHERE my confusion was coming from, from the damn start.
There is no question to me whether he has feelings for me. Whether he will miss me.





...... you're obviously fucking him, because if you really wanted to carry yourself maturely in a relationship, then you'd be just as respectful at departure, and let it pass.

You don't do that ... you have a lot of resentment you spew off at the mouth and most times when people do that it's because YOU are weak, and don't have the guts to suffer yourself through life disappoints, rather than stepping above the pettiness like adults do.

Careful how you present yourself in dxp ...
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Helium - Don't listen to anyone but yourself here ok? I see a lot of people posting some retort that just made me roll my eyes. Only you know the story entirely and yes we only hear your part. Ok so be it. But as another air sign I understand exactly what you went through. I don't think it's ok for him to push/pull and expect YOU not to push back.

Come on people.

I see a lot of you Scorpios talking about how she's blaming him but sorry.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It's fucking science. Don't like it? Tough shit.

Maybe he should grow the fuck up himself so she doesn't have to do what she did. Maybe if he was manning the fuck up we wouldn't be here in this thread either.

If he was acting right, treating her right she wouldn't have had to post any of this now would she. Shit. Im kinda getting tired of the boo hoo feel bad for him. I don't feel one iota of remorse for him at all. NOPE.

Hes obviously unevolved and immature.

Helium - I bet you anything hes practicing his retort in the mirror of what hes going to say to you. A week later he's going to probably come back and say something awfully mean. Probably writing it down, thinking about the perfect paragraph to make you feel like doo doo! LOL! Just ignore him if he does or just go LOL and vanish. Or he won't come back at all like Neuro said. He's got a point too about the Plan B, back burner girl. Im sure there was one hovering around somewhere.

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Helium - Don't listen to anyone but yourself here ok? I see a lot of people posting some retort that just made me roll my eyes. Only you know the story entirely and yes we only hear your part. Ok so be it. But as another air sign I understand exactly what you went through. I don't think it's ok for him to push/pull and expect YOU not to push back.

Come on people.

I see a lot of you Scorpios talking about how she's blaming him but sorry.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It's fucking science. Don't like it? Tough shit.

Maybe he should grow the fuck up himself so she doesn't have to do what she did. Maybe if he was manning the fuck up we wouldn't be here in this thread either.

If he was acting right, treating her right she wouldn't have had to post any of this now would she. Shit. Im kinda getting tired of the boo hoo feel bad for him. I don't feel one iota of remorse for him at all. NOPE.

Hes obviously unevolved and immature.

Helium - I bet you anything hes practicing his retort in the mirror of what hes going to say to you. A week later he's going to probably come back and say something awfully mean. Probably writing it down, thinking about the perfect paragraph to make you feel like doo doo! LOL! Just ignore him if he does or just go LOL and vanish. Or he won't come back at all like Neuro said. He's got a point too about the Plan B, back burner girl. Im sure there was one hovering around somewhere.



OMG a Gemini is agreeing with me.

When can we expect the plague of toads and frogs?
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Hey now! You know we have some things in common. That's why I added you to my favorite people to stalk....I mean ugh. My favorites 😄
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Wife loves that show.

I can't watch it. Mainly because Kristen Bell makes me think very bad things. Dirty things.






If yall don't quit posting that shit for real. We get it! You want her panty pudding! Christ!


She's showing off her dance moves, whatever do you mean?!?
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Is that how you dance E3? Cause if it is...BOW CHICKA WOW WOWWWW! No wonder everyone loves you.
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Posted by ellessque
Zin, my dear sweet gem....you are WRONG 😛

she's a plutonian......she's gotchyuuuuuu fooled, my love.

I think she's even fooled herself.

Gemini moon in the 8th house. *nods*

The poor guy didn't have a chance with his 12th house projects and venus in libra.



Elaborate on this part? Maybe im not following entirely. Care to delve? Id like to know. My interest is peaked now with this "Gemini moon in the 8th". Both my Sun and Mercury are both in Gemini and in the 8th house also. But im curious how this ties in with her and this other man.
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So, I re-read this thread and everyone's opinion several times. I wanted to take a few days to think about my actions and my response. I really asked myself if this was "manipulative" on my part. I genuinely wanted to know. I saw a lot of responses of "she knows what she's doing". The sad reality of it is, I really don't.

I will say without a doubt this move isn't purely about him. Although, it is a kind of relief to be away from this. It's consumed much of my life and even lead to neglect of important matters because of its pull on me.

I never experienced a relationship that was so emotionally exhausting. I told this man several times he is what I wanted. Gave him my complete attention, probably to a fault. Despite what I may or may not have done. This man did play with my emotions and I feel did everything to his ability to maintain control over himself, me, and both of our emotions. I don't need a debate or to know if that is true, because it is. I would feel so frustrated and confused that I would act out. I honestly think he got something out of that, and in retrospect I obviously did too.

I have no idea what his intentions were for us in the future, or what I could have done differently. When I did the things you've seen me honestly post about, it was in moments of great emotional distress. I will never know what his intentions are because he will never tell me. I agree with me being a huge part and for him having feelings in this that are important too. But I will say that my heart tells me that he did have feelings for me, but he was not able to be a man and discuss them with me at any point.

As of me telling him this news, he invited me out twice. I took him up on one invite, as I had expressed to him that I valued his opinion and was going through a huge life change and wanted his opinion and friendly ear. He bailed last minute to say he was sick. I found out that he was in fact out "partying" with a friend of his that he was trying to distance himself from because of "substance" issues. He lied to me. I have not heard from him since that day. He is either mad or indifferent with me. This drastic change in behavior leads me to believe it has more to do with anger. At this point I feel like I am not a mind reader. I have opened the door for communication, and received nothing. He told me I was one of his best friends above all. I am hurt but I am feeling closure in some weird sense.
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Helium - Stop trying to rationalize the irrational. There is nothing to think about here. Honestly the guy doesn't respect your time and time is a commodity. It doesn't matter if he's mad or what. The guy is a total douchebag. Look at the FACTS. He stood you up. Im not sure what this substance abuse thing is about but really? He isn't 100% sold on you or anything about you. If he was he would be acting right.
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Posted by heliumfiasco


I never experienced a relationship that was so emotionally exhausting. I told this man several times he is what I wanted. Gave him my complete attention, probably to a fault. Despite what I may or may not have done. This man did play with my emotions and I feel did everything to his ability to maintain control over himself, me, and both of our emotions.




Posted by heliumfiasco

I have given myself more to this relationship than I ever did to ANYONE, people that I was with for years never received things I gave this man..



Posted by heliumfiasco

...Was I looking for some kind of reaction when I said I was moving? Of course, you look for a reaction from everyone you love.



However, when the person does not feel the same way how can you expect a reaction?

Posted by heliumfiasco

This isn't just a man I dated. This is someone I see weekly and speak to daily!



And, this means that you had something more than just a sexual relationship/friendship? You clearly thought so, while his actions shows he did not (or at the very least, was not ready for a mature relationship).

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Am I holding on too tightly? Looking for answers? Probably. Mind you this is a man who plays massive head games with me.
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^^^^^I'm not one for quoting other threads to prove a point, but in this case I felt it was necessary. One of the issues you seem to be having (and fail to see) is the fact that you believe that because you declared your affection and devotion to this man that it should have been reciprocated. It's evident in every single thread you've created and many of your posts. Just because we care about someone and tell them so, does not mean they will or even have to feel the same way. You were confusing his game playing for something more than it was. You tugged, you pushed, you pulled, you forced your way into his life and wonder "Wtf? Why hasn't he taken me seriously? Why is he playing games?" because. you. never. got. the. message!!! he wasn't feeling you like that, but you kept pushing. He said the right things to keep you around, played with your emotions and this is the result. I'm not sure if you got caught up in the stinger hype, but at the end of the day this went south because you don't seem to think you deserve to be treated any better. If you did, you wouldn't have wasted all of this time looking for the tiniest sign of hope that he was as into you as you were into him.

I'm sorry that you are hurting, but it truly is time to move on. All of that stuff about closure you were spittin?? at the beginning of this thread, I'm not buying it because that conversation you shared in your post was anything but. Learn from this experienced and let it go helli.