Venus in Scorpio and the intensity please help

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So I'm very very confused right now whether I shud stay go. Most people here already know my story but it's been dragged on for over a year now. I honestly want to know if he's all in with me or not... This is our most recent conversation when we were kissing .. Me * hey do you have chewy?* him * no why? * me * I can taste blood in my mouth, my gum is funny lately * him * don't worry I will lick all of it *..... He's so all or nothing. He will use his finger to grab a chewy off my mouth sometimes. Our love making is so deep and extrmely intense...... when last time we had a fight n I said to him I don't wanna c him anymore n he called me 6 times which is rare because I never ever call him.... He wanted to clear things up badly... When we had our down fall n not speak and he came back around telling me he missed me..... He knows my feelings deeply deeply well.... N he cares about me a lot . He's my lover and my best friend..... He can read me like a book without me mentioning anything. But !!!!! He says he has no feelings ( cap moon) coz he was so burnt from his first love..... Honestly none of it made sense to me.... When we r out in public social setting he only has those Scorpio eyes my way always..... I told him is he denying his feelings and pushing me away to prove himself right?? He didn't say anything to that...... he's very opened to me and very very affectionate..... I don't know what to do anymore.... I wana date other people too coz they can give me what I need coz I deserve to be called someone's queeb and be spoiled and loved yet the scorpionic intensity I can't get out of..... I honestly don't know whether to walk or stay..... Help please... if Scorpio Venus was never into me would he have stayed this long and forgiven me over my crazy acts over the last year? I have done some unforgivable thing... We grew stronger and our chemistry is just so comfortatjng and the attraction is extreme..... what should I do !! Help please! Ofcoz he's a sag but u guys r expert at this and may be able to help me here!!!!
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Posted by heartlocket
lmfao... "i taste blood in my mouth, my gum is funny lately"

...what?

We can't help you if you don't take the time to actually explain in a logical way.

Sorry! I rushed it..... What I meant was, I could taste blood in my mouth when we were kissing because my gum was bleeding a little and I felt embarrassed if he could taste it too so I asked him for a chewy but he said * don't worry I will lick all of it * the blood..... I could feel his intensity and the deep passion everytime it's like his hidden feelings are out in the open and we feel like we are on a cloud nine...... It takes me to a different place...... I honestly don't know how to walk away from that... The reason why I'm thinking of walking away is becauSe 1) he says he doesn't want a relationship but we were exclusive and talked about it 2) he says there's no feelings, yet he write songs etc .... I feel like I deserve much much better than this, you know men that would claim me, take me out, spoil me bla bla but then I feel like he shows me his love through his intense love making. I'm completely lost....... I tried walking away before but our longing for each other brought us back eveeytime. It's been over a year now..... help...
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The simplest explanation I could do is... What he says doesn't really match his action.... He says he has no feelings yet he's very deep towards me and if I have a bad thought in my head and wanting to walk away he could read it within seconds and straight away asked me " what's wrong "..... It's driving me mental.... I can't make it logical because none of it is logical..... lol
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Personally, you need to stop over analysing things and just let things be.

Secondly, you're constantly questioning the 'all in' thing and relying heavily on the 'Scorp Venus' stuff to explain or demonstrate things rather than just enjoying being with him for who he is and how things are.

Just stop. As in, really stop and think here.

You question if he's all in, but are you?

You state you want to date other people so you can get what you need.

Is that all in on your part?

No, it isn't.

What is it you need?

It sounds like you're flitting between being with him and not with him... Venus in Gem... Ughhh, can't see what is right in front of them. Grass is always greener elsewhere... Thinks they might be missing out on something... Can't make a decision to save their life and if they do they can't stick with it and constantly change their mind...

Don't question him being all in or not when you are not all in yourself.

The dynamic you have between you now will not change. You are both how you are. You need to accept it and accept him as he is or end it completely and go and find what you think you're looking for elsewhere. Before you go looking though, you need to know what it is you're looking for. I do not think that you know.

I don't think the issue is with him. I think the issue is with you.
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And yes, some of your behaviour makes me want to stand in front of you and shake some fucking sense into you! Which is exactly what I wanted to do to that Taurus Sun/Gem Venus I discussed with you.

I want to say 'wtf are you playing at?'

Make a damn decision and stick with it! But I don't think you can because it's not in your nature to do. It might be but perhaps only once you stop over analysing every little thing and just go with the flow.

Honestly, I want to slap some sense into you!!!!!
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Posted by AgentP911
And yes, some of your behaviour makes me want to stand in front of you and shake some fucking sense into you! Which is exactly what I wanted to do to that Taurus Sun/Gem Venus I discussed with you.

I want to say 'wtf are you playing at?'

Make a damn decision and stick with it! But I don't think you can because it's not in your nature to do. It might be but perhaps only once you stop over analysing every little thing and just go with the flow.

Honestly, I want to slap some sense into you!!!!!

Wow u just hit me in the head....... please slap me slap hard lol.... I hate being this way too.. I asked him to be exclusive few weeks ago n he seemed reluctant so we weeee out Friday night n guess what I was so drunk I hooked up with someone!!!! n guess what I told him too!!!! lol, I was so angry at him n I did what I did lol, he called me 6 times the next day wanting to sort things out, was with him last night n I asked him again n he said, did u seriously ask me to be exclusive after u hooked up with someone and I didnt? .... so he said we will talk about that later.... Goodness, u r right I have issues too.... but it's not my fault he keeps telling me he has no feelings ! Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn this can't b blamed only on me... Hehehe
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You're being a tramp.

You know this and you're even taking pride in it.

I thought you guys were exclusive already?

You said before you initially were not exclusive or didn't realise you were and that you were still sleeping around. You then became exclusive. Now you ask him to be exclusive but he hesitated or didn't reply so you solve it by... Hooking up with another man...

Oh dear.

You don't want a proper relationship with this guy. You just want to fuck him along with everyone else you haven't yet fucked.

When you grow up you'll realise there's no need to go out for McDonalds when you already have filet mignon in front of you. The problem you have is that you don't know what filet mignon is and therefore you don't know what to do with it. You only know McDonalds because let's face it, it's cheap, it's easy, and there's plenty of them around for whenever you need it.
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No. You're just being a tramp.

Stop laying blame at the astrological door.

You're young. You like the attention of lots of different guys. You like fucking and being with lots of different guys.

There's nothing wrong with that. You just need to acknowledge it and see it for what it is.

All this whinging about this Scorp Venus guy is just bullshit attention seeking.

You don't really want him. You just think you do and you have great sex. You don't have the capability yet to actually be in a mature relationship whether it be with him or anyone else.

Just go out, do what you want but be clear with people and with yourself.
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The first 6 months of our *thing* I was being loyal to him... I wasn't with anyone at all yet he was giving me two hour a week or even two weeks . It was painful honestly. Then he told me he was missing his ex n I went crazy that's when he said *now we r sleeping with other people? * I then said I wasn't even aware we were exclusive coz he never told me or discussed it at all!! He kept saying he doesn't wsnt s relationship bullcrap... anyhow, we fixed the problem and I asked him to forgive me... Yes we got bak to seeing each other after him sleeping around too.... Then when we came back around I asked him to be exclusive again and he says he doesn't wanna . He wanna get in girls pants as much as he likes!!!!!!! Anyway, a week before the book up I asked him if he was with anyone he said no... I also said no and that was me being with no one for over 3 months!!!!! him Ofcoz were having his side chicks as always..... Any how on Friday night I was pissed and tired of his bull crap so yes I was drunk and kissed someone on the dance floor... Turned out he didn't hook up with anyone and its been maybe a few weeks for him.... so I asked him last night if we can be exclusive again and he said, u hooked up with someone this weekend, n I said I was so drunk plZ I thought he was hooking up n sleeping around too since he told me that's what he wanted!!! N he said * we will talk about this some other time * so in all honesty, yes I did sleep around for a bit but its not all my fault when I gave him everything any guy could have asked for , presents, gifts, my time and I made all the effort everything... n I recieced zero of it. Ofcoz I'm so bloody tired.... Tired tired tired of giving n he knows that so.... how would I even know if he's in it just for the sex itself... he's done nothing for me and its been a year so it's not my fault I would see if the grass is greener true?
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It is what it is.

A bloody mess! That's what it is.

I'm not picking on you, I'm just saying what I see as I only have the info you give. Clearly from your last post he's being a tramp too.

My point is, neither of you have a real clue about what you want or what you want from each other. It sounds very tit for tat and lots of games and bullshit from both sides.

He won't give me exclusivity so I go off with someone else.

He wants to fuck everything that moves but lies about whether he has or hasn't.

I've not been with anyone for a few weeks. Can we be exclusive again...

Jesus Christ have you heard yourselves? Have you actually read and understood your words?

Both of you LOVE the drama. ViS does love a bit of drama and my mother is Sun and Venus in Gem and my God does she thrive on that dramatic, argumentative shit.

It's giving me a headache.


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Posted by virgorillaa
"We havent hooked up for weeks, can we be exclusive now"

?! So you get the chance to be exclusive in those few days between hookups?

Thats not a relationship, my dear.

Anyway, im venus scorpio, sag mc, capricorn moon.

But all i can understand from his actions is that hes playing. Just ignore him and move on. You dont want him, you want his attention. He doesnt want to be in relationship, because hes liking all what youre doing and giving for him (time, gifts..). Think about it, if hes getting all those without committing, why would he bother to commit? And by him sayimg he doesnt love you. Thats a smart move from him, because later when you try to blame him, hed use those words as defense.

I suggest you move on, find what you like. And yes you deserve better but you gotta figure what you want!

Sorry if i sounded harsh!

Good luck!

According to him we were exclusive for 6 months... anyway I'm moving on now. Thank u though
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I just googled 'queeb'.

I wasn't sure if it was a slang thing or a spelling mistake for 'queen'. Either option would have made sense here.

Definition of queeb

queeb

noun

A vaginal fart, usually during intercourse.

Ha ha ha I just laughed so much... Fuck, I'm getting too old for all this shit!!



That is so funny even for this site....LOL
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Ofcoz queen.. anyhow, feel free to troll, I am not really asking for critics to be honest... as soon as I mention sleeping around, people straight away jump to a conclusion that I wanna f every guy on this planet . IMAO.... Seriously have I said how many people I have had sex with this year? the funny thing is I don't actually care what people say or think of me, no one is perfect really n sadly I'm one of the people that will accept my own behaviour n learn from it.. not many PPl would speak the whole truth esp not a Scorpio... so for that I am proud of my own faults.... now this threat can get thrown away as I only see criticism rather than a Real help... none of u noe me as a person n I'm only spilling out the crappy side of myself on here but anyway, go ahead I honestly don't care lol.
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Posted by AriesLady8
You gotta chill out.

#1 You wanna be wifed so bad but aren't acting like wifey material. Would you be proud to show you off?
#2 This sounds like entirely too many different body fluids going on

You're having sex with each other while both having sex with other people. Do you value your lives? At this rate, youre going to mess up your life before it even gets started.

Let this be a learning experience for you cause he might me back due to the opposition energy.

Look, if a relationship is what you desire and he doesn't want to give this to you then indeed it is time to bounce!... for good.
Who cares how he makes you feel during sex. That's an optical illusion. How does he make you feel in real life is the real question??

Gather yourself. Fix what needs to be fixed, mentally and emotionally then worry about being someones girlfriend

Relationships aren't for play play. You date to become committed to eventually marry/become life partners.


You actually given me great advice here.. thank u, yes I know he will be back, it doesn't normally last for more than a few weeks... he did being the *best* and the *worst* out of me and Ofcoz I have my own issues so does he. I won't lie... Right now I am only settling for a real commitment so I'm walking away for real this time. thank you though
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Posted by AriesLady8
You gotta chill out.

#1 You wanna be wifed so bad but aren't acting like wifey material. Would you be proud to show you off?
#2 This sounds like entirely too many different body fluids going on

You're having sex with each other while both having sex with other people. Do you value your lives? At this rate, youre going to mess up your life before it even gets started.

Let this be a learning experience for you cause he might me back due to the opposition energy.

Look, if a relationship is what you desire and he doesn't want to give this to you then indeed it is time to bounce!... for good.
Who cares how he makes you feel during sex. That's an optical illusion. How does he make you feel in real life is the real question??

Gather yourself. Fix what needs to be fixed, mentally and emotionally then worry about being someones girlfriend

Relationships aren't for play play. You date to become committed to eventually marry/become life partners.


Did u mean his venus in Scorpio to my sun in Taurus?
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Lol I don't think anyone is really having a go at you on here. There's nothing wrong with experiencing a multitude of people or things etc. the point is to be clear about what YOU want and the way YOU want it. Then go and find someone you can match with.

The Scorp Venus guy sounds a bit much anyway. In terms of placement, I think it takes a good many years to get a grip on it. He's not done that yet but you're both young and should be enjoying whatever you're doing as long as you don't mislead people and all that then all is well.

He'll be wallowing in his own shit anyway!!
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Posted by AgentP911
Lol I don't think anyone is really having a go at you on here. There's nothing wrong with experiencing a multitude of people or things etc. the point is to be clear about what YOU want and the way YOU want it. Then go and find someone you can match with.

The Scorp Venus guy sounds a bit much anyway. In terms of placement, I think it takes a good many years to get a grip on it. He's not done that yet but you're both young and should be enjoying whatever you're doing as long as you don't mislead people and all that then all is well.

He'll be wallowing in his own shit anyway!!

My wanting commitment Taurus gets confused with my Aqua moon ( wanting open relarionshop and my venus) it goes back and forth and I think that's the same with his sun in sag and his ( venus in Scorpio) and his moon cap... It's a one hot mess but we mix well otherwise.. He's like my best friend to be honest and accept all my crazy wired quirks as I do with him. This is not about losing him as a lover but losing him as my best friend too..... but yes, we both R as confused as each other , I think in time and with age and maybe tons of spaces we may want the same thing when he gets a grip on what he truly truly want.... but yes, I still do want him sadly, ppl can argue but I love him deeply more than anyone I ever loved but we r doing the nature thing here and moving on.... n no, I don't wanna sleep around anymore, if I meet the next guy it will b serious, he just needs to stay away lol
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Posted by AriesLady8
You said you're Taurus Sun/Gemini Venus... He's a Sag Sun/Scorpio Venus

There is a possibility that this could be Sun opposition Venus double whammy.... It could explain some of the chemistry you feel. But that doesn't mean you will live happily ever after let alone grow into anything substantial.

I honesty don't believe you are done and that's fine. This is your journey and you don't have to convince us of anything.

He comes back cause he knows he can. He knows how bad you want it and he knows you will give it. He takes advantage of this. Im sure this has been a pattern. He has learned you.

He stays away long enough for your resistance to him to weaken probably... So by the time he pops back up your missing him and your no longer mad at whatever caused you two to separate. And then he's in there... will little effort

You have to decide who you want to be as a woman.... A Queen or a "queeb"

Wow amazing,!! Very accurate yes he has learnt me but this is a new me... I Havnt responded to his messages yet and its been the longest time wise.... I can't go back unless he offers me exclusivity n we start fresh or nothing at all.... the opposition energy is correct... My sun in Taurus his moon in Capricorn ... His sun in sag and my moon in Aqua... all in all, I just have to keep away for good... _— n if he tries to come bak I will stay strong...... thank u so so so much
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I gotta say, i dont get your posts. Sometimes you obsess over his sag sun, then you go nuts about his cap moon, now were harping on his venus. Girl, were tired lol. You keep phrasing your threads to get the outcome you knowingly or unknowingly want.

One minute you give us examples of a cap moon falling for you and of course were going to agree. So then you feel good about things for the moment till....

This is a dead end issue. Hes never going to fully trust you (venus scorp, sextile moon in cap.)

Scorpio influenced people will play THIS game for a short while. Boredom, sex, ego boost. Then one day he wont be coming back.
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Posted by DMV
I gotta say, i dont get your posts. Sometimes you obsess over his sag sun, then you go nuts about his cap moon, now were harping on his venus. Girl, were tired lol. You keep phrasing your threads to get the outcome you knowingly or unknowingly want.

One minute you give us examples of a cap moon falling for you and of course were going to agree. So then you feel good about things for the moment till....

This is a dead end issue. Hes never going to fully trust you (venus scorp, sextile moon in cap.)

Scorpio influenced people will play THIS game for a short while. Boredom, sex, ego boost. Then one day he wont be coming back.

That's good I hope he doesn't and let me be .
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Posted by busyeyes88
Yes she is. This has been going on over a year on the sag board even the taurus board and now this onE. Her obsession with hiM is such that she always displays how deeply SHE feels about him but fails to realise that he does not feel the same depth of feeling for her. I tried to advise her even from my own experience but she preferred a glossy outcome In her head.... This outcome that he finally dumped her did not surprise me and I am sure she will be back again but the question is... Under which board and under which pseudo name will she make her return?

What on earth makes you think that you *know* his true feelings and what makes you think that I want to believe you based on one ex you had which had the same placement without looking into anything else. Hence why I ignore it all together. People r obsessed here on dxp hence the nunerous posts and I'm sure you are obsessed in trying to convince people of your believes hence following my single post just to try to as u call it convince myself of what to do in my relatuonship without giving a solid advice or seympathy. It's pretty sad to be honest.. you judged him based on his placement (venus in Scorpio) ex experience that u had, I share the same sun sign as yourself doesn't mean that I will go critics all the Virgo ex sun placements coz I had bad experiences with them..
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Posted by busyeyes88
AP911. You are right from what I have experienced my ex is stalking my LinkedIn profile (as it informs me when someone looks at my profile) but I have cut him off for good and have moved address,new job, phone numbers etc and have not been on FB or updated my LinkedIn details. The VIS is a strong connection which I feel but it was too painful a memory of the split that I won't allow myself to go through that again. The OP I don't believe is strong enough and this same 'saga' will be continuing for yet another year or at least until one of them IS strong enough to break the cycle. My venus is a venus in pisces.. I only wanted to help the OP avoid more pain...



You are wise, more life experience, been there done that... OP is still learning but she will get there!

That's accurate on the Internet stalking, I'm terrible for it but I'm discrete, you'll never know about it.