Venus in scorpio not jealous...

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Hi everyone who might read this... its been a year ive been with my boyfriend (almost a year)... he has venus in scorpio, and i dont think he's jealous and possessive... and i was wondering if its a misconception of venus in scorpio to think they are jealous or maybe he is but just dont tell...? Also hes not very good at expressing his love... like he doesnt want to say i love you too often because he thinks it will lessen its meaning... and I asked him since its almost a year when does he think is the official date of anniversary of our couple and he answered when we first kissed... and then i wonder if he was just waiting for me to get the hint that i liked him at that time to make a move... Id like some opinions on that because to me its confusing...
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Well, I'm a scorpio venus and if I trust someone and am secure in their love for me, then I'm not jealous at all. Key words = trust and security.

I am slow to say "I love you". I'm 46 years old and have only said it romantically to three men in my whole life (and I have dated much more than three). Just very picky who I say it to and I have to mean it, as well as feel secure in the relationship in order to say it. However, once in a stable relationship, I have no problem saying it. I think it was around the year mark in our relationship that I became comfortable with it.

What are his other planets? Sun, moon and mars?

Mars will tell you how ambitious he is in going after what he wants (for example, stereotypically, mars in Aries will go after a woman full force, where mars in pisces will sit back and just let it happen).

Moon will tell you the emotional side and how he handles his emotions (cap moon will be less emotional and cautious in love, whereas cancer moon has no problem expressing feelings).

Sun is the core personality.

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Hi everyone who might read this... its been a year ive been with my boyfriend (almost a year)... he has venus in scorpio, and i dont think he's jealous and possessive... and i was wondering if its a misconception of venus in scorpio to think they are jealous or maybe he is but just dont tell...? Also hes not very good at expressing his love... like he doesnt want to say i love you too often because he thinks it will lessen its meaning... and I asked him since its almost a year when does he think is the official date of anniversary of our couple and he answered when we first kissed... and then i wonder if he was just waiting for me to get the hint that i liked him at that time to make a move... Id like some opinions on that because to me its confusing...



what's his placements? if he's got a singleton venus scorpio with NO other water, or other to complement, he may have a hard time understanding to "depths" of scorpio love. Especially if he has alot of air in his chart.
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his chart is :
sun in libra :01,18 (so almost a virgo)
Moon in gemini (I have this placement too)
Mercury in libra
Venus in scorpio
Mars in capricorn
Thats the main things... unfortunately i dont know his ascendant which is annoying for me (scorp ascendant and mercury in virgo im kinda skilled to be a stalker LOL)

My chart is:
Ascendant in scorpio
Sun in leo
Moon in gemini
Mercury in virgo
Venus in leo (almost in cancer like one degree from being a cancer)
Mars in taurus

I posted my chart as well so maybe its because of me that i see this as a problem or maybe its me that have trouble understanding him... thanks so much by the way for the answers its helping me understand better!
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



What's the point in talking about past relationships? The past is the past.
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



What's the point in talking about past relationships? The past is the past.
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The past is the past, but it was lived by the same person who you're dating today.

Their past actions, and their attitude they show towards it, can reveal much about his true character. Much more than his best courting behavior that he's currently on.

It's not even so much what he says, since it's so easy to just lie. But if he describes her as a "bitch", red flag. If he plays the victim, red flag. If he immediately just says how much hotter you are, red flag.

Even if everything checks out, knowing his past can be very helpful in knowing what he likes or doesn't like. If he grumbles that his ex always gave him impersonal gift cards for holidays, well, you now know what not to get him. 🙂
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Libras are good at hiding jealousy. Don't look for a libra to make any open displays of crazy emotions. Virgo either for that matter. He also has mars in cap which can keep their emotions very in check on the outside even though they may be going crazy inside.



yea, if you want the standard Stalked Victim Experience, find yourself a Sag with Venus Scorp. They're the ones who will go blatantly loco on you if dare not answer your phone.
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*sets cellphone down on the table without a passcode and walks out of the room full of scorpio in venuses*



*picks it up.. goes through everything.. takes screenshots of pertinent info.. texts said screenshots to self.. deletes texting and photo history.. adds passcode.. puts phone back down.. pretends nothing happened and passcode has always been in place when questioned*
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



What's the point in talking about past relationships? The past is the past.
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+1 men don't like you picking on their past relationships. It's annoying and nagging-like. Leave it be. if he chose you, he chose you, and that's that.
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



What's the point in talking about past relationships? The past is the past.
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Good point!...!
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



What's the point in talking about past relationships? The past is the past.



The past is the past, but it was lived by the same person who you're dating today.

Their past actions, and their attitude they show towards it, can reveal much about his true character. Much more than his best courting behavior that he's currently on.

It's not even so much what he says, since it's so easy to just lie. But if he describes her as a "bitch", red flag. If he plays the victim, red flag. If he immediately just says how much hotter you are, red flag.

Even if everything checks out, knowing his past can be very helpful in knowing what he likes or doesn't like. If he grumbles that his ex always gave him impersonal gift cards for holidays, well, you now know what not to get him. 🙂
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Yeah... i think what bothers me is that i speak a lot and he doesnt so its hard to know where he stands... and i guess its my scorpio asc who doesnt like him being on top of things (knowledge wise)...
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



What's the point in talking about past relationships? The past is the past.



+1 men don't like you picking on their past relationships. It's annoying and nagging-like. Leave it be. if he chose you, he chose you, and that's that.
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True..!
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*sets cellphone down on the table without a passcode and walks out of the room full of scorpio in venuses*



*picks it up.. goes through everything.. takes screenshots of pertinent info.. texts said screenshots to self.. deletes texting and photo history.. adds passcode.. puts phone back down.. pretends nothing happened and passcode has always been in place when questioned*
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LOLLLL! i once took a picture of a facebook conversation of one of my exes he left it all open... and one was talking about me... like not good...
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Libras are good at hiding jealousy. Don't look for a libra to make any open displays of crazy emotions. Virgo either for that matter. He also has mars in cap which can keep their emotions very in check on the outside even though they may be going crazy inside.



yea, if you want the standard Stalked Victim Experience, find yourself a Sag with Venus Scorp. They're the ones who will go blatantly loco on you if dare not answer your phone.



How true s this!!!! Geez!

I am very possesive and jelaus:/ I have however never met a guy whom I fully trusted, so that hs got lmost everything to do with it. At the same time, Guys I can "own" immediatly, I tend to find not so interesting. Not that I have ever told a man I loved him, but if I did, it would be from the bottom of my Heart, and I can actually understand, what he Means by it loosing it's meaning if you just throw it around randomly (which I don't think you are btw). He feels is in his gut. That stuff is scary. And takes some time to get used to that feeling of extrem happiness and fear at the same time.
He probably has alot of feelings, but putting them into everyday Words... Phu...That's a tough one.
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Probably but i dunno since im a vain leo woman who needs constant ego feeding and reassurance i find it a little hard to handle... and everytime i talk about the relationship like trying to get some information on what he thinks he makes jokes and then change subject... unless im very not casual and i tell him directly what i dont like and what i would like and why... and then hes like okay ill try (like talking about his feelings or saying nice things sometimes) he did it for a while but he kinda stopped and hes a little aloof now loll...
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his chart is :
sun in libra :01,18 (so almost a virgo)
Moon in gemini (I have this placement too)
Mercury in libra
Venus in scorpio
Mars in capricorn
Thats the main things... unfortunately i dont know his ascendant which is annoying for me (scorp ascendant and mercury in virgo im kinda skilled to be a stalker LOL)

My chart is:
Ascendant in scorpio
Sun in leo
Moon in gemini
Mercury in virgo
Venus in leo (almost in cancer like one degree from being a cancer)
Mars in taurus

I posted my chart as well so maybe its because of me that i see this as a problem or maybe its me that have trouble understanding him... thanks so much by the way for the answers its helping me understand better!


I know someone with these exact same placements. He is super detached in his relationship and he does not like speaking about feelings. I wouldn't say he's a jealous or possessive person at all, he's so easy going. I would say he's a little secretive though.
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A little secretive is clearly an understatement loll I thought for 6 months he didnt have a facebook... and then i found out he did have one... i stalked him and added him... only to find nothing on it... not even a damn picture! LOL
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Posted by Pridefulbrat
his chart is :
sun in libra :01,18 (so almost a virgo)
Moon in gemini (I have this placement too)
Mercury in libra
Venus in scorpio
Mars in capricorn
Thats the main things... unfortunately i dont know his ascendant which is annoying for me (scorp ascendant and mercury in virgo im kinda skilled to be a stalker LOL)
My chart is:
Ascendant in scorpio
Sun in leo
Moon in gemini
Mercury in virgo
Venus in leo (almost in cancer like one degree from being a cancer)
Mars in taurus
I posted my chart as well so maybe its because of me that i see this as a problem or maybe its me that have trouble understanding him... thanks so much by the way for the answers its helping me understand better!

I know someone with these exact same placements. He is super detached in his relationship and he does not like speaking about feelings. I wouldn't say he's a jealous or possessive person at all, he's so easy going. I would say he's a little secretive though.
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you hit the nail on the head for the most part. I have a couple of gay cousins and one of them told me he's dating a double libra guy with a fire mars and scorpio venus. He tells me that he is SO secretive, but HATES confrontation. It pisses him off. so i tell him if you are pissed off at that, why are you with him? It's because he feels that he actually loves him. they both have scorpio venus, but my cousin has dominant water/fire. so we'll see how that goes. *crosses fingers* he seems like a really nice guy too, but he hates to be alone from what i heard from cuz.
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yeah he hates confrontations too... maybe that's why he doesnt want to talk about the relationship (he's not very good at talking about his feelings so maybe we would have an argument because i wouldnt understand what he's trying to say...) it doesnt piss me off that we dont talk about that stuff but sometimes i feel a little shallow with him cause hes so serious most of the time... LOL... like we take a walk and then i see water fountains everywhere and im like wait for me i want to walk in it... i leave him my shoes and then i go and hes like how old are you?!.. (not in a mean way... i think)
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I have Sun, Mercury, Venus and Pluto in Scorpio. Although it's not something I'm proud of, I'd have to be honest and say that I can be quite jealous. If I'm going to justify myself, it's not in an insecure way. It's more like... I don't go after many things in life, I choose what I want carefully, quality over quantity, and when I find it and make it mine, I don't like to share!

I'm using the word 'it' because I'm not just referring to women. Could be clothes or ideas. I just get annoyed that I leave people to their things, yet they constantly want what's mine, not cool!
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Libras are good at hiding jealousy. Don't look for a libra to make any open displays of crazy emotions. Virgo either for that matter. He also has mars in cap which can keep their emotions very in check on the outside even though they may be going crazy inside.



yea, if you want the standard Stalked Victim Experience, find yourself a Sag with Venus Scorp. They're the ones who will go blatantly loco on you if dare not answer your phone.
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I have Sun in Sag and Venus in Scorpio - I don't go bezerk if I call my partner and he doesn't answer. We all miss calls. Now if it happens on a regular basis then that's a different story. I still wouldn't freak out, I'd probably just act more distant and cautious due to signs of potential deception.
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Also he never ever talked about past relationship so i find it hard to know where i stand... like if im just some girl or if im the one... (mercury in virgo worrying probably)... maybe its irrationnal but is it common for venus in scorp not to talk about past relationships...?



It's because Venus in Scorpios are very private individuals. I think that through time and once they start feeling completely comfortable around you and you ask about their past relationships then they may start revealing bit by bit...
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his chart is :
sun in libra :01,18 (so almost a virgo)
Moon in gemini (I have this placement too)
Mercury in libra
Venus in scorpio
Mars in capricorn
Thats the main things... unfortunately i dont know his ascendant which is annoying for me (scorp ascendant and mercury in virgo im kinda skilled to be a stalker LOL)

My chart is:
Ascendant in scorpio
Sun in leo
Moon in gemini
Mercury in virgo
Venus in leo (almost in cancer like one degree from being a cancer)
Mars in taurus

I posted my chart as well so maybe its because of me that i see this as a problem or maybe its me that have trouble understanding him... thanks so much by the way for the answers its helping me understand better!


I know someone with these exact same placements. He is super detached in his relationship and he does not like speaking about feelings. I wouldn't say he's a jealous or possessive person at all, he's so easy going. I would say he's a little secretive though.



A little secretive is clearly an understatement loll I thought for 6 months he didnt have a facebook... and then i found out he did have one... i stalked him and added him... only to find nothing on it... not even a damn picture! LOL
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Not surprising at all, that sounds like something I would do (being a ViS myself). From my point of view, I would say it's more like he is naturally private, mysterious and secretive. For people with Scorpio in this placement, the way we see it is if someone is truly special and have proved themselves then that person will have the privilege of having actual insight into our private lives. As for the rest of the folks (acquaintances, people from the past, random strangers browsing on social networking sites), they have not earned that privilege to see personal pictures or get the latest updates on what has taken place in our lives. Those details are kept only for people close to us.
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Why does the question of jealousy arise and take precedence over other positive attributes when it concerns VINS?Possessiveness and jealousy in love,in all likelihood is a common affair not limited to scorpios alone.Primeval human emotions are involved.To paint scorpios in the dark and some other signs as the Buddha when it comes to love is plain stupidity.Venus In Scorp(VINS) has more intangibles associated to it that it will never be fully articulated,let alone fully appreciated;just like the sunsign.

Scorpion symbolizes the lower form of sunsign-Scorpio.As a person matures,there are layers to his understanding of love and stuff related to intimate moments.As a venus in scorp myself,at one point I had a hard time letting my emotions NOT get the better of me.After doing some stupid shit,maturity ultimately overcame stupidity in love affairs.Symbolically,Scorpion has to and will transform into eagles,that's for sure,when it comes to dealing with VINS.Dont go by the text book definition all the time.Lot of factors can come into play depending on maturity.
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Why does the question of jealousy arise and take precedence over other positive attributes when it concerns VINS?Possessiveness and jealousy in love,in all likelihood is a common affair not limited to scorpios alone.Primeval human emotions are involved.To paint scorpios in the dark and some other signs as the Buddha when it comes to love is plain stupidity.Venus In Scorp(VINS) has more intangibles associated to it that it will never be fully articulated,let alone fully appreciated;just like the sunsign.

Scorpion symbolizes the lower form of sunsign-Scorpio.As a person matures,there are layers to his understanding of love and stuff related to intimate moments.As a venus in scorp myself,at one point I had a hard time letting my emotions NOT get the better of me.After doing some stupid shit,maturity ultimately overcame stupidity in love affairs.Symbolically,Scorpion has to and will transform into eagles,that's for sure,when it comes to dealing with VINS.Dont go by the text book definition all the time.Lot of factors can come into play depending on maturity.



That's something i havent considered... thanks 😄
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his chart is :
sun in libra :01,18 (so almost a virgo)
Moon in gemini (I have this placement too)
Mercury in libra
Venus in scorpio
Mars in capricorn
Thats the main things... unfortunately i dont know his ascendant which is annoying for me (scorp ascendant and mercury in virgo im kinda skilled to be a stalker LOL)

My chart is:
Ascendant in scorpio
Sun in leo
Moon in gemini
Mercury in virgo
Venus in leo (almost in cancer like one degree from being a cancer)
Mars in taurus

I posted my chart as well so maybe its because of me that i see this as a problem or maybe its me that have trouble understanding him... thanks so much by the way for the answers its helping me understand better!


I know someone with these exact same placements. He is super detached in his relationship and he does not like speaking about feelings. I wouldn't say he's a jealous or possessive person at all, he's so easy going. I would say he's a little secretive though.



A little secretive is clearly an understatement loll I thought for 6 months he didnt have a facebook... and then i found out he did have one... i stalked him and added him... only to find nothing on it... not even a damn picture! LOL



Not surprising at all, that sounds like something I would do (being a ViS myself). From my point of view, I would say it's more like he is naturally private, mysterious and secretive. For people with Scorpio in this placement, the way we see it is if someone is truly special and have proved themselves then that person will have the privilege of having actual insight into our private lives. As for the rest of the folks (acquaintances, people from the past, random strangers browsing on social networking sites), they have not earned that privilege to see personal pictures or get the latest updates on what has taken place in our lives. Those details are kept only for people close to us.
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Yeah i get that i have virgo midheaven so I keep a strong control on my facebook page like everything i put on there makes me look good and i keep
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Why does the question of jealousy arise and take precedence over other positive attributes when it concerns VINS?Possessiveness and jealousy in love,in all likelihood is a common affair not limited to scorpios alone.Primeval human emotions are involved.To paint scorpios in the dark and some other signs as the Buddha when it comes to love is plain stupidity.Venus In Scorp(VINS) has more intangibles associated to it that it will never be fully articulated,let alone fully appreciated;just like the sunsign.

Scorpion symbolizes the lower form of sunsign-Scorpio.As a person matures,there are layers to his understanding of love and stuff related to intimate moments.As a venus in scorp myself,at one point I had a hard time letting my emotions NOT get the better of me.After doing some stupid shit,maturity ultimately overcame stupidity in love affairs.Symbolically,Scorpion has to and will transform into eagles,that's for sure,when it comes to dealing with VINS.Dont go by the text book definition all the time.Lot of factors can come into play depending on maturity.



+million zillion

People refuse to recognize anything other than the most unevolved jealousy/obsessiveness as VINS (and exclusive to it).

When pressed, these people usually just shrug and regurgitate that Venus in Scorpio is in detriment.

bs excuse....especially since Aries Venus is also detriment, yet people are much less negatively biased towards that placement.
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Why does the question of jealousy arise and take precedence over other positive attributes when it concerns VINS?Possessiveness and jealousy in love,in all likelihood is a common affair not limited to scorpios alone.Primeval human emotions are involved.To paint scorpios in the dark and some other signs as the Buddha when it comes to love is plain stupidity.Venus In Scorp(VINS) has more intangibles associated to it that it will never be fully articulated,let alone fully appreciated;just like the sunsign.

Scorpion symbolizes the lower form of sunsign-Scorpio.As a person matures,there are layers to his understanding of love and stuff related to intimate moments.As a venus in scorp myself,at one point I had a hard time letting my emotions NOT get the better of me.After doing some stupid shit,maturity ultimately overcame stupidity in love affairs.Symbolically,Scorpion has to and will transform into eagles,that's for sure,when it comes to dealing with VINS.Dont go by the text book definition all the time.Lot of factors can come into play depending on maturity.



+million zillion

People refuse to recognize anything other than the most unevolved jealousy/obsessiveness as VINS (and exclusive to it).

When pressed, these people usually just shrug and regurgitate that Venus in Scorpio is in detriment.

bs excuse....especially since Aries Venus is also detriment, yet people are much less negatively biased towards that placement.
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yeah they even neglect the virgo venus which is in the "fall". No one seems to care about them. You don't see a ton of women making topics on "HELP! I'm soooooooooo attracted to the venus in virgo. do not understand!" it's always venus in scorpio.