Here i am again..somewhat back to being confused by this taurus guy😩

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Hello beautiful people..looks like i an back into "another level of confusion"😩 Background bet me and the taurus guy- we've known each other for more than 2 years now. we went on a dates on and off- at one point within this two years, we both almost gave up on the possibility of romance bet us (we're both single parents and he has his own business while i work a lot of hours) but we made it out of that rut. Fast forward to now, we've been seeing each other more often than we've ever had before (ones or twice a month). I've been to his house a few times, he's been in my place one time, he took me out on my birthday despite of his busy schedule, he said to me on one occassion that he thinks i am a good fit for him, we've def had the most amazing sex and all that good stuff. i am way more "texty" that he is since day 1 but i still wonder if he thinks of me when we're not together. He never ever initiates the communication- texts or calls. He seems distant when we are apart- which is soooo consfusing. He also asked me a few weeks back if i want to go to a wedding with him (which is not happening till this April)- i said yes right away. Then that was that😳 yesterday he invited me to come to his house (our typical dates) - and so i did. Gave him a massage, he asked me about my kids, about my country, etc. he said to me he thinks i am a sweet spirit. He said he likes the fact that i am not dependent on him for my happiness and that i am a natural nurturer, that i am strong and a survivor, and he said he thinks i am sexy and has a "potential"? But he also said indirectly that he's not willing to change anything about his life at the moment, and that he's all about alignment and that he has other people depending on him and that he does not want to disappoint them. He also said that he'd making up for the lost times he had due to his past experiences with his exes and the mistakes he's made- so add that to my confusion. When we parted ways, he asked me to give him a hug-( which he's never done before). I left thinking "wtf did just go down"..i felt as though he wanted me but at the same time he also does not to move the "dating" to another level-

Which i am perfectly fine for now but i just dont like feeling confused. I sent him a text when i got home and no reply at all- which honestly i'm not surprised but it still irks me a bit. Please shed some clarity if you guys have had any similar rendezvous with a taurus guy. I honestly dont know what would the next logical step be- should i stop reaching out and give him sometime to process his perspective pr should i ask him straight up? Please help. Thank you all!
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Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
The first question is what do you really want from the relationship?


I want us to be a couple- ultimately. I know in my heart that i can see myself with him for a long haul but i am not sure if he feels the same way. It's almost like a push and pull with him. Like i feel that he likes me but i also sometimes feel that he is just contented with being what we are now- seeing each other ones or twice a month, etc. i am contemplating of backing off and make myself less available to see where's he's at when it comes to what we have but i dont know if that's the right way to do 😢
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he is taking what you allow him to take.

i agree you should tell him what you want however he is has told you he wants nothing more than what you already have ie sex when he's in the mood, seeing you every two weeks, something to have on his arm during social functions.

it's up to you whether that is something you are comfortable with or whether you are happy patiently waiting on for an indeterminate amount of time for when and if he ever feels ready.

keep in mind, you were asking the exact same question and feeling confused at his intentions, nearly 12 months ago.
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I don’t think backing off is the way to go. It sounds like he is trying to figure out where you stand. It also sounds from his comments like he is not in a rush for a big commitment.

Be consistent in your treatment of him, show him you care. Do not try to force the pace or ask him to change the way he wants to do things.

I understand your confusion about the texts and not replying but look at his actions not texts. A lot of men just use texts as a tool and don’t want to be texting all the time.
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Yes i know he is not in a hurry to committ- and i def know that i can't force him to into doing anything against his will. It is tiring though to be in this situation 😢 not knowing where i stand is soooo stressful
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I don’t think backing off is the way to go. It sounds like he is trying to figure out where you stand. It also sounds from his comments like he is not in a rush for a big commitment.

Be consistent in your treatment of him, show him you care. Do not try to force the pace or ask him to change the way he wants to do things.

I understand your confusion about the texts and not replying but look at his actions not texts. A lot of men just use texts as a tool and don’t want to be texting all the time.
Yes i know he is not in a hurry to committ- and i def know that i can't force him to into doing anything against his will. It is tiring though to be in this situation 😢 not knowing where i stand is soooo stressful
All you can do is tell him what you want and then you’ll have an answer.

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I already told him what i want- he knows that i am inlove with him. All he said was time will tell. So how am i suppose to take that? Should i ask him what he wants to happen between him and i? I dont want to seem pushy coz that's def not what i want.

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Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
@ScorpioNluv - You could try another angle next time you see him. Ask him again what he sees happening in the future and tell him you want commitment and what commitment is to you.

As @jeane says you then have to decide if what he wants is the same as what you want and if you’re prepared to wait around.
Ok i'll try that. Should i continue the communication though? I sent 3 messages within two days span and have not heard from him- should i stop and wait to hear from him or should i let it be and communicate like i normally do? I normally would text him ones or twice a day and depending on the content, i'll get a short reply- but when we see each other, it's always magical 😢
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@ScorpioNluv - You could try another angle next time you see him. Ask him again what he sees happening in the future and tell him you want commitment and what commitment is to you.

As @jeane says you then have to decide if what he wants is the same as what you want and if you’re prepared to wait around.
Ok i'll try that. Should i continue the communication though? I sent 3 messages within two days span and have not heard from him- should i stop and wait to hear from him or should i let it be and communicate like i normally do? I normally would text him ones or twice a day and depending on the content, i'll get a short reply- but when we see each other, it's always magical 😢


I wouldn’t text him every day if he is not responding but yes be normal in every other way. Try to see him in person.

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Noted. It sucks. But i would rather know where i stand even if it hurts me than be in the dark. Thanks for your input!
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Posted by Caramel_Princess
I’m assuming you’re a Scorpio? Doesn’t matter. Most of the posts on this Taurus forum are almost exactly the same story line.

Run. This is who he is; he will stay this way as long as you allow him. Draw the line in the sand, make your demands known, don’t you dare belittle yourself or feel like you’re smaller than him!!! That you can’t do better (you absolutely can!)

You know I wish I took others advice on here when they told me the same thing, but here I am 10 months later wishing I ran when I could.
Yes i'm a scorp..lol yes indeed they seem to have the same process as far as romantic relationships go 😢 i thought we were hitting it off great and then boom! Just daunting silence 😢 i wish he'll tell me straight coz i would if i were in his shoes. I can't stand being in limbo. It sucks and it's so immature. But i get that it's just how they process things.

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Posted by Caramel_Princess
I’m assuming you’re a Scorpio? Doesn’t matter. Most of the posts on this Taurus forum are almost exactly the same story line.

Run. This is who he is; he will stay this way as long as you allow him. Draw the line in the sand, make your demands known, don’t you dare belittle yourself or feel like you’re smaller than him!!! That you can’t do better (you absolutely can!)

You know I wish I took others advice on here when they told me the same thing, but here I am 10 months later wishing I ran when I could.
Yes i'm a scorp..lol yes indeed they seem to have the same process as far as romantic relationships go 😢 i thought we were hitting it off great and then boom! Just daunting silence 😢 i wish he'll tell me straight coz i would if i were in his shoes. I can't stand being in limbo. It sucks and it's so immature. But i get that it's just how they process things.

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it's not how they process after two years of knowing you. you're making excuses for bad behaviour.
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Posted by Caramel_Princess
I’m assuming you’re a Scorpio? Doesn’t matter. Most of the posts on this Taurus forum are almost exactly the same story line.

Run. This is who he is; he will stay this way as long as you allow him. Draw the line in the sand, make your demands known, don’t you dare belittle yourself or feel like you’re smaller than him!!! That you can’t do better (you absolutely can!)

You know I wish I took others advice on here when they told me the same thing, but here I am 10 months later wishing I ran when I could.
Yes i'm a scorp..lol yes indeed they seem to have the same process as far as romantic relationships go 😢 i thought we were hitting it off great and then boom! Just daunting silence 😢 i wish he'll tell me straight coz i would if i were in his shoes. I can't stand being in limbo. It sucks and it's so immature. But i get that it's just how they process things.


it's not how they process after two years of knowing you. you're making excuses for bad behaviour.
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so true. I don't even notice that i am doing it subconsciously. Unreal. This too shall pass- lol it will probably suck for a week or two or three but i can't keep going back and forth in a limbo. Thanks for your input!

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"he also said indirectly that he's not willing to change anything about his life at the moment, and that he's all about alignment and that he has other people depending on him and that he does not want to disappoint them. "

There's your answer girl, listen to your gut. Its right.

You want a relationship, he does not.

But the benefits, massage and booty... yes please.

#wasteoftime
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I’m assuming you’re a Scorpio? Doesn’t matter. Most of the posts on this Taurus forum are almost exactly the same story line.

Run. This is who he is; he will stay this way as long as you allow him. Draw the line in the sand, make your demands known, don’t you dare belittle yourself or feel like you’re smaller than him!!! That you can’t do better (you absolutely can!)

You know I wish I took others advice on here when they told me the same thing, but here I am 10 months later wishing I ran when I could.
omg yes, so relateable.

I also wish I would've ran when everyone told me too. But here I am.. also 9mo later LOLOL

Taurus men... they are all the same until THEY decide they are ready and THEY decide to go for YOU. Which is 100% obvious and not confusing at all, they run at you like a spanish bull
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It’s amazing to me how people find taurus of all signs *cringe* confusing.

They are just about the most basic human beings.

Taurus may come off cool and collected but their triggers are driven by posseive passion & anger.



I have been the type of Taurus dom to make guys wait and wait and wait testing patience and interest...but what made me snap out of it was when they made me jelly. I was like wth I feel something for this person? That changed the dynamics by a lot!



So maybe just try exploring your options and take some time away from him. I’m sure he has feelings by now that maybe he doesn’t notice till you make him notice!



And if he just lets you fade off into the abyss than it’s a good thing because you will have clarity.
Exactly. I figured if he has feelings for me, he'll eventually reach out? Or isn't taurus notorious for not reaching out ever- or this could be an exception?

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Doesn't seem confusing at all...

He likes you but isn't wanting to go further than how he has it now with you.

Sounds like a waste of time, kick em to the curb

Options are TOO open, if he wanted you, he'd get you. Put your energy elsewhere and with someone who can return it to you IMO
I don't know if i can kick him to the curve that easily- i am emotionally invested but i agree with you, i left the options way too open. I basically went with the flow but his terms so that i will put an end too. I'll go mia and if he has feelings for me, he know where to reach/find me- if he doesn't do any of it, then i'll know where i stand with him and he'll never ever hear from me again.

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Doesn't seem confusing at all...

He likes you but isn't wanting to go further than how he has it now with you.

Sounds like a waste of time, kick em to the curb

Options are TOO open, if he wanted you, he'd get you. Put your energy elsewhere and with someone who can return it to you IMO
I don't know if i can kick him to the curve that easily- i am emotionally invested but i agree with you, i left the options way too open. I basically went with the flow but his terms so that i will put an end too. I'll go mia and if he has feelings for me, he know where to reach/find me- if he doesn't do any of it, then i'll know where i stand with him and he'll never ever hear from me again.

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if you do that of course he will seek you out, they don't like change but it doesn't mean you know where you stand with him, it just means he will just want to keep things as they are.

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Doesn't seem confusing at all...

He likes you but isn't wanting to go further than how he has it now with you.

Sounds like a waste of time, kick em to the curb

Options are TOO open, if he wanted you, he'd get you. Put your energy elsewhere and with someone who can return it to you IMO
I don't know if i can kick him to the curve that easily- i am emotionally invested but i agree with you, i left the options way too open. I basically went with the flow but his terms so that i will put an end too. I'll go mia and if he has feelings for me, he know where to reach/find me- if he doesn't do any of it, then i'll know where i stand with him and he'll never ever hear from me again.



if you do that of course he will seek you out, they don't like change but it doesn't mean you know where you stand with him, it just means he will just want to keep things as they are.



😩😩😩 This is sooooo ridiculous. I feel as tho i have done everything on my part, well maybe except the fact that i have not really put my foot down. i don't want to give any ultimatum for the obvious fact that he's a taurus and that's not the way to go anyway. I already told him how i feel about him in more than one occassion and he for sure knows. He asked me to go on one of his closest friend's wedding in April and then the hot and cold again. He also mentioned on friday when i saw him that he's got some catching up to do with his time and now is the time to do it- and when i asked him what he meant by that- he just said "exactly how you take it"😩 Then when i asked him "when are we cooking- (since we've been putting it off for almost 2 months now) all he said was " that's going to be your ultimate test"😩 I feel like i keep opening the pandoras box and then new more shocking situations await 😢 and never really get the clarity that i'm looking for from him.



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Doesn't seem confusing at all...

He likes you but isn't wanting to go further than how he has it now with you.

Sounds like a waste of time, kick em to the curb

Options are TOO open, if he wanted you, he'd get you. Put your energy elsewhere and with someone who can return it to you IMO
I don't know if i can kick him to the curve that easily- i am emotionally invested but i agree with you, i left the options way too open. I basically went with the flow but his terms so that i will put an end too. I'll go mia and if he has feelings for me, he know where to reach/find me- if he doesn't do any of it, then i'll know where i stand with him and he'll never ever hear from me again.



if you do that of course he will seek you out, they don't like change but it doesn't mean you know where you stand with him, it just means he will just want to keep things as they are.



😩😩😩 This is sooooo ridiculous. I feel as tho i have done everything on my part, well maybe except the fact that i have not really put my foot down. i don't want to give any ultimatum for the obvious fact that he's a taurus and that's not the way to go anyway. I already told him how i feel about him in more than one occassion and he for sure knows. He asked me to go on one of his closest friend's wedding in April and then the hot and cold again. He also mentioned on friday when i saw him that he's got some catching up to do with his time and now is the time to do it- and when i asked him what he meant by that- he just said "exactly how you take it"😩 Then when i asked him "when are we cooking- (since we've been putting it off for almost 2 months now) all he said was " that's going to be your ultimate test"😩 I feel like i keep opening the pandoras box and then new more shocking situations await 😢 and never really get the clarity that i'm looking for from him.




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so you're afraid of showing him you have boundaries because you fear losing a man who doesn't give you what you want?
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Doesn't seem confusing at all...

He likes you but isn't wanting to go further than how he has it now with you.

Sounds like a waste of time, kick em to the curb

Options are TOO open, if he wanted you, he'd get you. Put your energy elsewhere and with someone who can return it to you IMO
I don't know if i can kick him to the curve that easily- i am emotionally invested but i agree with you, i left the options way too open. I basically went with the flow but his terms so that i will put an end too. I'll go mia and if he has feelings for me, he know where to reach/find me- if he doesn't do any of it, then i'll know where i stand with him and he'll never ever hear from me again.



if you do that of course he will seek you out, they don't like change but it doesn't mean you know where you stand with him, it just means he will just want to keep things as they are.



😩😩😩 This is sooooo ridiculous. I feel as tho i have done everything on my part, well maybe except the fact that i have not really put my foot down. i don't want to give any ultimatum for the obvious fact that he's a taurus and that's not the way to go anyway. I already told him how i feel about him in more than one occassion and he for sure knows. He asked me to go on one of his closest friend's wedding in April and then the hot and cold again. He also mentioned on friday when i saw him that he's got some catching up to do with his time and now is the time to do it- and when i asked him what he meant by that- he just said "exactly how you take it"😩 Then when i asked him "when are we cooking- (since we've been putting it off for almost 2 months now) all he said was " that's going to be your ultimate test"😩 I feel like i keep opening the pandoras box and then new more shocking situations await 😢 and never really get the clarity that i'm looking for from him.





so you're afraid of showing him you have boundaries because you fear losing a man who doesn't give you what you want?
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Not necessarily fear of losing a man but rather already inlove with the man- but i get it.
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Wait just a minute. Stand back. Watch it like a movie.

This guy comes to you and squats while you fan him like a king and give him a massage. He purposely evades your questions and screws with your head, knowing EXACTLY what he's doing. That question you gave him about when you're going to be cooking? He responds by telling you that's going to be YOUR ultimate test?? Whoa! Slam the brakes on for just one second! Stop, stop, stop! Think about that statement!

You are catering to him like some sort of king on a throne. Who does he think he is horsing around with your emotions like some sort of gameshow?? You're asking him direct questions and he dangles bait in front of you as if you'd better bite or lose your chance, and then he takes off?? WHAT? Go look at yourself in the mirror! Who are you, his servant?? He ADMITS he's testing you. Hell no. Nooooooo, no, no. Reassess.

You have lost sense of your value. Stick it right back in his face and SHOW him you have no time for this petty nonsense. And @Caramel_Princess is right... Do NOT look down at or QUESTION yourself because that is the *intention* of someone who GASLIGHTS. Look it up. This guy is using power over you like a puppet to control you. Many women have been victims of this and they don't see it until the smoke clears and they have half an ounce of insight into human behavior. This guy has a need for control. He wants you to earn him, and I don't care what his "sign" is; anyone who tells you you're being tested and then ignores you to see if you "pass" just slapped you in the face. @wildflower is dead on accurate by implying he's offering you nothing but tired hands and headaches.

Be very careful that you're not slipping into patterns of being a victim of emotional abuse. Too many people on this forum are dismissing this because they're so wrapped up in the most likely next move. Been there a million times, but eventually you wake up after years of repeated patterns. I'd almost bet that half the people giving advice are not looking at this. If someone is using manipulation and tactics to string you along and secure you, or if they're trying to affect you negatively by purposely not giving to you just to TEST YOU (And COUNTLESS Tauruses ADMIT they test people on purpose and they get off on it) then that is EMOTIONAL ABUSE.

If you're testing someone and you think that gives you power, make no mistake; It shows you're WEAK and you're an ABUSER. Play all the little games you want but while you're knocking people down as you get off on your little "power trips", remember.... You are attempting to throw people off in efforts to derail them, so you get the attention you need to cure the ugliness you see in yourself. You cant get it the real way and you're afraid of failure, ridden with fear, so you resort to mental games. The victim of your abuse will eventually wake up to what your little devious tricks are, pack their stuff and walk the &% $ # out. Look in the mirror, Taurus people. See all the women going through the exact same thing on this site? You admit to your own tricks, and the only thing you accomplish is looking like a sociopath, gaslighter, and abuser.

Not ALL, but a LOT of Tauruses need to be called out for this crap. It is the epitome of PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE.
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Wait just a minute. Stand back. Watch it like a movie.

This guy comes to you and squats while you fan him like a king and give him a massage. He purposely evades your questions and screws with your head, knowing EXACTLY what he's doing. That question you gave him about when you're going to be cooking? He responds by telling you that's going to be YOUR ultimate test?? Whoa! Slam the brakes on for just one second! Stop, stop, stop! Think about that statement!

You are catering to him like some sort of king on a throne. Who does he think he is horsing around with your emotions like some sort of gameshow?? You're asking him direct questions and he dangles bait in front of you as if you'd better bite or lose your chance, and then he takes off?? WHAT? Go look at yourself in the mirror! Who are you, his servant?? He ADMITS he's testing you. Hell no. Nooooooo, no, no. Reassess.

You have lost sense of your value. Stick it right back in his face and SHOW him you have no time for this petty nonsense. And @Caramel_Princess is right... Do NOT look down at or QUESTION yourself because that is the *intention* of someone who GASLIGHTS. Look it up. This guy is using power over you like a puppet to control you. Many women have been victims of this and they don't see it until the smoke clears and they have half an ounce of insight into human behavior. This guy has a need for control. He wants you to earn him, and I don't care what his "sign" is; anyone who tells you you're being tested and then ignores you to see if you "pass" just slapped you in the face. @wildflower is dead on accurate by implying he's offering you nothing but tired hands and headaches.

Be very careful that you're not slipping into patterns of being a victim of emotional abuse. Too many people on this forum are dismissing this because they're so wrapped up in the most likely next move. Been there a million times, but eventually you wake up after years of repeated patterns. I'd almost bet that half the people giving advice are not looking at this. If someone is using manipulation and tactics to string you along and secure you, or if they're trying to affect you negatively by purposely not giving to you just to TEST YOU (And COUNTLESS Tauruses ADMIT they test people on purpose and they get off on it) then that is EMOTIONAL ABUSE.

If you're testing someone and you think that gives you power, make no mistake; It shows you're WEAK and you're an ABUSER. Play all the little games you want but while you're knocking people down as you get off on your little "power trips", remember.... You are attempting to throw people off in efforts to derail them, so you get the attention you need to cure the ugliness you see in yourself. You cant get it the real way and you're afraid of failure, ridden with fear, so you resort to mental games. The victim of your abuse will eventually wake up to what your little devious tricks are, pack their stuff and walk the &% $ # out. Look in the mirror, Taurus people. See all the women going through the exact same thing on this site? You admit to your own tricks, and the only thing you accomplish is looking like a sociopath, gaslighter, and abuser.

Not ALL, but a LOT of Tauruses need to be called out for this crap. It is the epitome of PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE.
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Sounds like he just look for a hook up, according to what you wrote there


I know for sure that it is more than just a hook up- there were occassions that we didn't even make it to the bedroom- we just hung out, eat out and talk. And he's shown me times that made me confident that it's bot just a booty cal/hook-up.


Ok, but he is clearly not interested in anything serious
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Probably so..it sucks but i'll get over it in due time

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Posted by ConqueredVirgo
Wait just a minute. Stand back. Watch it like a movie.

This guy comes to you and squats while you fan him like a king and give him a massage. He purposely evades your questions and screws with your head, knowing EXACTLY what he's doing. That question you gave him about when you're going to be cooking? He responds by telling you that's going to be YOUR ultimate test?? Whoa! Slam the brakes on for just one second! Stop, stop, stop! Think about that statement!

You are catering to him like some sort of king on a throne. Who does he think he is horsing around with your emotions like some sort of gameshow?? You're asking him direct questions and he dangles bait in front of you as if you'd better bite or lose your chance, and then he takes off?? WHAT? Go look at yourself in the mirror! Who are you, his servant?? He ADMITS he's testing you. Hell no. Nooooooo, no, no. Reassess.

You have lost sense of your value. Stick it right back in his face and SHOW him you have no time for this petty nonsense. And @Caramel_Princess is right... Do NOT look down at or QUESTION yourself because that is the *intention* of someone who GASLIGHTS. Look it up. This guy is using power over you like a puppet to control you. Many women have been victims of this and they don't see it until the smoke clears and they have half an ounce of insight into human behavior. This guy has a need for control. He wants you to earn him, and I don't care what his "sign" is; anyone who tells you you're being tested and then ignores you to see if you "pass" just slapped you in the face. @wildflower is dead on accurate by implying he's offering you nothing but tired hands and headaches.

Be very careful that you're not slipping into patterns of being a victim of emotional abuse. Too many people on this forum are dismissing this because they're so wrapped up in the most likely next move. Been there a million times, but eventually you wake up after years of repeated patterns. I'd almost bet that half the people giving advice are not looking at this. If someone is using manipulation and tactics to string you along and secure you, or if they're trying to affect you negatively by purposely not giving to you just to TEST YOU (And COUNTLESS Tauruses ADMIT they test people on purpose and they get off on it) then that is EMOTIONAL ABUSE.

If you're testing someone and you think that gives you power, make no mistake; It shows you're WEAK and you're an ABUSER. Play all the little games you want but while you're knocking people down as you get off on your little "power trips", remember.... You are attempting to throw people off in efforts to derail them, so you get the attention you need to cure the ugliness you see in yourself. You cant get it the real way and you're afraid of failure, ridden with fear, so you resort to mental games. The victim of your abuse will eventually wake up to what your little devious tricks are, pack their stuff and walk the &% $ # out. Look in the mirror, Taurus people. See all the women going through the exact same thing on this site? You admit to your own tricks, and the only thing you accomplish is looking like a sociopath, gaslighter, and abuser.

Not ALL, but a LOT of Tauruses need to be called out for this crap. It is the epitome of PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE.
This is eerily correct because I feel like my ex Taurus would always gaslight me even though I KNEW. And I called him out on his shit and he didnt like it lol

I see and im stubborn

He would also talk about testing people and how people needed to EARN them.

Like he said people need to earn your trust/respect/etc

I was like wtf

-I get it but no one owes you shit, and everyone makes mistakes, we are all human beings- I'd tell him.

another taurus i dated was really into weird shit but I can see similar patterns...

hmmmmmmmm
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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..

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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..

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told you

we allll told you LOL

taurus men are starting to be very predictable

I would recommend you a be a bitch till you get what you want, otherwise he's not going to change

its all talk unfortunately

Glad you stood up for yourself!!!

Taurus men make you scared of losing them somehow, never in my life, did I ever feel uncomfortable speaking my mind until I was with a taurus lol how do they do that—
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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..

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I stopped reading after "he knew"
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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..

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Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.

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Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


told you

we allll told you LOL

taurus men are starting to be very predictable

I would recommend you a be a bitch till you get what you want, otherwise he's not going to change

its all talk unfortunately

Glad you stood up for yourself!!!

Taurus men make you scared of losing them somehow, never in my life, did I ever feel uncomfortable speaking my mind until I was with a taurus lol how do they do that—
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Lol yes y'all did! I did not reply to any of his text messages. Let him ponder on that for the whole week. Will see what happens after that. Taurus def needs some type of nudging cuz they become so complacent when they know how you feel towards them- i'm glad i listened to y'all and did what's needed to be done!😉

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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.

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He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.

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Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.

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Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
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The Taurus I "was" involved with recently said he wasn't ready for a relationship and spoke down to me like a child after I admitted feelings. He said, "If you can accept the current situation as reality and be my friend while I work on myself and my situation, then we can be friends."

What is this, high school? You're reprimanding me? Who do you think you're talking to? (My lovey dovey nature & coddling went south very fast) So I psychoanalyzed him in a long email and described *the way* he is, and I knew it would rattle him. No response! Exactly what I expected. I then texted him and gave him no "space" because I knew that's what he wanted, til I peed him off enough to not hear from again. I will push his buttons just for the hell of it if he's going to talk down to me. He stays silent. I have actually laughed at the most recent texts I sent, once I got past the sting and got cold to it. No one speaks down to me after leading me on for months and getting my heart involved, knowing exactly what they're doing. No one. I don't cower and let someone think they won in a game of control after they play with my mind and suddenly go mia just because feelings were previously admitted. The average person will say, "Oh no! You pushed him away!" Yes I did, because I like my sanity.
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Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.

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And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.

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Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.


Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
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Oh, and are you married yet?
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Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.

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how long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.

if it sounds simple it's because it is.
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Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.


Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
Oh, and are you married yet?
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does that make a difference? if i say no, does that invalidate my relationship and experience?
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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.


how long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.

if it sounds simple it's because it is.
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Can I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.


Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
Oh, and are you married yet?
does that make a difference? if i say no, does that invalidate my relationship and experience?
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Not at all an invalidation. In fact, I think it's helpful to know. Because if you don't want to marry him, that's one thing. If he doesn't want to marry you, you'd already know it and likely would've left a long time ago. So I'm just stitching together the dynamic.
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.


Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
Oh, and are you married yet?
does that make a difference? if i say no, does that invalidate my relationship and experience?
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Do you also think Tauruses can be vastly different based on moons?
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.


how long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.

if it sounds simple it's because it is.
Can I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?
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i agree. we had a solid friendship before we got together. we were friends for about a year (it went from talking every now and again to talking everyday for hours). we deliberated a lot before we even got to the first kiss.

he has a sag moon. same as me.
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.


Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
Oh, and are you married yet?
does that make a difference? if i say no, does that invalidate my relationship and experience?
Not at all an invalidation. In fact, I think it's helpful to know. Because if you don't want to marry him, that's one thing. If he doesn't want to marry you, you'd already know it and likely would've left a long time ago. So I'm just stitching together the dynamic.
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we've made loose wedding plans but to honest, neither of us is in a rush to get married. not because of any concerns but we're both enjoying where we are. we're both of an age that marriage isn't paramount in our minds.

so our intention is to eventually marry but not just yet. probably in the next few years.
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


He already knows what i want right from the get go- and he also told me that he's not un a hurry to jump into anything- and i was ok with that. The only agreement we had in the beginning was to date exclusively. The one thing that i never liked was the hot and cold treatment- i made it seem like it was never a big deal but deep inside i was boiling in anger. So i amsure he was shocked to hear me talk with so much conviction- and i am glad I did. I am ok with taking it slow- cuz we both have so many other things to juggle around and try to fit our dating scene in then picture.


Ok, so ultimately this was a communication issue. As long as the communication is consistent you're OK with not being in a relationship.

I'm not sure your method of punishing him with silent treatment is a solid one but I'm glad you managed to resolve this issue.
Oh, and are you married yet?
does that make a difference? if i say no, does that invalidate my relationship and experience?
Do you also think Tauruses can be vastly different based on moons?
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i don't know. i don't think i know enough of them to be able to say.

of the taurus i know, there is a striking similarity between them but perhaps that is only superficial.

i did have a similar experience to you. about 6 months in, my partner said he needed to deal with issues in his life and wanted us to put our foot on the brakes. i reacted (badly perhaps?). i felt hurt that he was pushing me away. i felt discarded. i felt that our relationship was weak if he didn't want to be in the relationship while going through what he was going through. we argued for a few days. by the end of it, i said if he needs me to be his friend during this time, then that's what i would do. for me, it was about giving him what he needed. he said i need you to be my friend at this point and i wanted to give him what he needed even if it hurt me to do so.

i realise your situation is different. you felt patronised and condescended. but i don't know if that shows there is a similarity between tauruses. the need to shut down and put up a wall in times of crisis.
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.


how long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.

if it sounds simple it's because it is.
Can I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?
i agree. we had a solid friendship before we got together. we were friends for about a year (it went from talking every now and again to talking everyday for hours). we deliberated a lot before we even got to the first kiss.

he has a sag moon. same as me.
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I am not privy to the secrets of the Sagittarius moon. I am intrigued now. Do you think that moons being identical has worked for or against you? Are you also a Taurus? Because that would freak me out if you were same sun/moon. I'm just learning the sign traits in last few months.
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Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.


how long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.

if it sounds simple it's because it is.
Can I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?
i agree. we had a solid friendship before we got together. we were friends for about a year (it went from talking every now and again to talking everyday for hours). we deliberated a lot before we even got to the first kiss.

he has a sag moon. same as me.
I am not privy to the secrets of the Sagittarius moon. I am intrigued now. Do you think that moons being identical has worked for or against you? Are you also a Taurus? Because that would freak me out if you were same sun/moon. I'm just learning the sign traits in last few months.

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i'm a scorp dominant libra so a mix of both of us being venusian but also opposite as well.

i think our moons have worked for us. we get each other. i might be a little slower sometimes or sometimes he is, but we each have an sort of innate understanding of where the other is coming from. it's strange. neither has to explain why we feel the way we do.

we each react the same way and on the very rare occasion when we aren't on the same page in terms of our emotions, we reason it out and it doesn't take long (i'm talking no more that an hour) before the other catches up.

i think that may be due to being together for for a while now too.
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girrrl, drop him like its hot


Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..


Good but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?

Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.

When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.

I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.

There was a

1) clear expression of our positions

2) a negotiation

3) a final understanding and then an agreement.

Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?

I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.

Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.

It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.


And how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.


how long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.

if it sounds simple it's because it is.
Can I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?
i agree. we had a solid friendship before we got together. we were friends for about a year (it went from talking every now and again to talking everyday for hours). we deliberated a lot before we even got to the first kiss.

he has a sag moon. same as me.
I am not privy to the secrets of the Sagittarius moon. I am intrigued now. Do you think that moons being identical has worked for or against you? Are you also a Taurus? Because that would freak me out if you were same sun/moon. I'm just learning the sign traits in last few months.



i'm a scorp dominant libra so a mix of both of us being venusian but also opposite as well.

i think our moons have worked for us. we get each other. i might be a little slower sometimes or sometimes he is, but we each have an sort of innate understanding of where the other is coming from. it's strange. neither has to explain why we feel the way we do.

we each react the same way and on the very rare occasion when we aren't on the same page in terms of our emotions, we reason it out and it doesn't take long (i'm talking no more that an hour) before the other catches up.

i think that may be due to being together for for a while now too.

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If I'm Virgo with Scorpio rising and Libra moon, what am I dominant in? The Taurus I know has a Virgo moon (my sign) with a Libra rising. Wonder if that is a conflict. Both earth signs, and his moon is same as my sun, his rising is the same as my moon. Some of the things we have in common and said to each other weren't things anyone I know has ever said to me. He did a LOT of mirroring.

Did you compare in the beginning that your viewpoints are so close/exact that it must've had something to do with signs? As in, you knew it pretty quickly?
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