
jeane
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Posted by jeaneAhhhh! Sweet molasses that chart website looks intimidating and confusing! I can't wait to try it!Posted by ConqueredVirgoyou'll need to do a pullen chart to see what you are dominant in. http://fh-horoscopes.tumblr.com/post/121789533579/how-to-find-your-dominant-sign-planet-elementPosted by jeaneIf I'm Virgo with Scorpio rising and Libra moon, what am I dominant in? The Taurus I know has a Virgo moon (my sign) with a Libra rising. Wonder if that is a conflict. Both earth signs, and his moon is same as my sun, his rising is the same as my moon. Some of the things we have in common and said to each other weren't things anyone I know has ever said to me. He did a LOT of mirroring.Posted by ConqueredVirgoPosted by jeaneI am not privy to the secrets of the Sagittarius moon. I am intrigued now. Do you think that moons being identical has worked for or against you? Are you also a Taurus? Because that would freak me out if you were same sun/moon. I'm just learning the sign traits in last few months.Posted by ConqueredVirgoi agree. we had a solid friendship before we got together. we were friends for about a year (it went from talking every now and again to talking everyday for hours). we deliberated a lot before we even got to the first kiss.Posted by jeaneCan I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?Posted by ConqueredVirgohow long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.Posted by jeaneAnd how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.Posted by ScorpioNluvGood but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot
Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..
Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.
When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.
I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.
There was a
1) clear expression of our positions
2) a negotiation
3) a final understanding and then an agreement.
Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?
I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.
Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.
It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.
if it sounds simple it's because it is.
he has a sag moon. same as me.
i'm a scorp dominant libra so a mix of both of us being venusian but also opposite as well.
i think our moons have worked for us. we get each other. i might be a little slower sometimes or sometimes he is, but we each have an sort of innate understanding of where the other is coming from. it's strange. neither has to explain why we feel the way we do.
we each react the same way and on the very rare occasion when we aren't on the same page in terms of our emotions, we reason it out and it doesn't take long (i'm talking no more that an hour) before the other catches up.
i think that may be due to being together for for a while now too.
Did you compare in the beginning that your viewpoints are so close/exact that it must've had something to do with signs? As in, you knew it pretty quickly?
they say that if you share a sun with your partner's moon then that is good for compatibility. my parents had this combination and they certainly weren't compatible. they may be the exception to the rule.
i wasn't really into signs when we met. he would just tell me i was very understanding all the time! ours wasn't a quick, sweep you off your feet, whirlwind romance. it was plodding. i wasn't even into him romantically for about 3 months. he just crept up on me and then it was an uncontrollable attraction/obsession.
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Posted by ConqueredVirgoit's easy! you'll have it done in no time. interesting stuff too.Posted by jeaneAhhhh! Sweet molasses that chart website looks intimidating and confusing! I can't wait to try it!Posted by ConqueredVirgoyou'll need to do a pullen chart to see what you are dominant in. http://fh-horoscopes.tumblr.com/post/121789533579/how-to-find-your-dominant-sign-planet-elementPosted by jeaneIf I'm Virgo with Scorpio rising and Libra moon, what am I dominant in? The Taurus I know has a Virgo moon (my sign) with a Libra rising. Wonder if that is a conflict. Both earth signs, and his moon is same as my sun, his rising is the same as my moon. Some of the things we have in common and said to each other weren't things anyone I know has ever said to me. He did a LOT of mirroring.Posted by ConqueredVirgoPosted by jeaneI am not privy to the secrets of the Sagittarius moon. I am intrigued now. Do you think that moons being identical has worked for or against you? Are you also a Taurus? Because that would freak me out if you were same sun/moon. I'm just learning the sign traits in last few months.Posted by ConqueredVirgoi agree. we had a solid friendship before we got together. we were friends for about a year (it went from talking every now and again to talking everyday for hours). we deliberated a lot before we even got to the first kiss.Posted by jeaneCan I ask how long you were involved before you were sleeping together? It seems like that is also something that comes into play. I thought I remembered someone say you went through a lot with your bull, but it was must've been someone else here I was thinking of. What's his moon sign?Posted by ConqueredVirgohow long? about two months of fucking before i told him what i wanted (i didn't know what i wanted either for those two months - tried to shut it down lots of times). no sleepless nights, no blowoffs, he told me he wanted to be casual and go with the flow a couple of times, and after two months i realised that wasn't what i wanted.Posted by jeaneAnd how much agony did you go through prior to politely thanking him for his time? How many ulcers did he give you? How many sleepless nights did you spend and blowoffs did you encounter? How many times did he tell you he wanted to be "just friends" and for how long until you could not take it anymore? It sounds very simplified the way you put it.Posted by ScorpioNluvGood but did you tell him what you don't want or did you tell him what you do want?Posted by wildflower
girrrl, drop him like its hot
Lol.. i finally gave him a taste of my sting this morning- i just can't keep it in me anymore and had to let him know that how he's handling the situation is not ok and i am not the one who'll be playing his games with him..i told him that his actions are tormenting my mental peace and i can't handle the roller coaster hot and cold shit. And i said, if this is how you feel, i'll respect your decision but i am not going to be dragged along in this sick roller coaster ride... and classic taurus kicked in- he replied as fast as a lightning⚡️ He apologized, he said he knew he was disappointing me. He said he is very sincere with what we have and does not want to ruin the potential of what we've started and will communicate better..
Because it sounds like some vague non descript whine that has him apologising today but still tell you he doesn't want a relationship while you do. In the long term nothing changes.
When I was defining my relationship with my partner early on he said he wanted something casual. I did not.
I thanked him for his time and told him it's not what I am looking for but I wish him well. By the end of the conversation, we had agreed to be a couple.
There was a
1) clear expression of our positions
2) a negotiation
3) a final understanding and then an agreement.
Now, if you just wanted him to communicate more then great, you've both agreed to that but have you been really honest with him about what you want? or are you still too concerned that this is a sticking point for him so you are just going to sit on your feelings until a little down the road when you feel confused by his intentions again?
I know you don't want to really out all your cards on the table because you're afraid of what the answer will be but you also can't continue putting your head in the sand. You have one life to live, don't live it in fear.
Now is the time to have honest and frank communication between you. You will never have a decent relationship until you can speak clearly and openly about your needs and thoughts with your partner.
It's not fair on you and it's not fair on him either.
if it sounds simple it's because it is.
he has a sag moon. same as me.
i'm a scorp dominant libra so a mix of both of us being venusian but also opposite as well.
i think our moons have worked for us. we get each other. i might be a little slower sometimes or sometimes he is, but we each have an sort of innate understanding of where the other is coming from. it's strange. neither has to explain why we feel the way we do.
we each react the same way and on the very rare occasion when we aren't on the same page in terms of our emotions, we reason it out and it doesn't take long (i'm talking no more that an hour) before the other catches up.
i think that may be due to being together for for a while now too.
Did you compare in the beginning that your viewpoints are so close/exact that it must've had something to do with signs? As in, you knew it pretty quickly?
they say that if you share a sun with your partner's moon then that is good for compatibility. my parents had this combination and they certainly weren't compatible. they may be the exception to the rule.
i wasn't really into signs when we met. he would just tell me i was very understanding all the time! ours wasn't a quick, sweep you off your feet, whirlwind romance. it was plodding. i wasn't even into him romantically for about 3 months. he just crept up on me and then it was an uncontrollable attraction/obsession.
That is wild that you weren't even into him at first. And then an obsession took over? That is NUTS. I had the same thing happen with a Leo years ago and I ended up in two relationships with him. And now he's knocking again because he doesn't feel like the king. Funny, I just remembered that now that you brought it up. Ok, I'm done hijacking this thread. I'm going to go try this website your sending me to and see if I can give myself a good headache before bed.click to expand


Posted by KoniuchaaHumbled. Thank you.Posted by tiki33Love your advice!
ScorpioNluv don't fall into the imaginary relationship trap where there really is no relationship but only mainly benefits. Don't get mentally and emotionally trapped by his boundaries because once you allow yourself to be boxed in by what he wants and not by what you want you're stuck, stuck in a very uncomfortable familiar space where you are being led wherever he wants it to go.
I personally feel you should stop being his 2x's a month routine and only see him when it's convenient for you or stop seeing him at all because you truly can't forge a real relationship unless you spend more time together.
In situations like the one you're in you don't make it about him. You have to make this about you. Are you happy? Is seeing him 2 times a month good enough? How long am I willing to do this with him? And set boundaries for yourself so you don't feel like you're stuck.
Be very transparent with yourself about what you really want. If what you really want is a real relationship than don't expend your energy on a guy whose made it clear he's not interested in being serious with you.
You can can keep seeing him as you explore other dating options or you can keep seeing him and continue to go along to get along or you can stop seeing him and get back out in the dating world.
What do you want for yourself? You should ask yourself that question and reaccess your current relationship and see if your current relationship aligns itself with what you want.click to expand


Posted by tiki33Omg you are so right. I just got a message from him this morning basically saying what you've pointed out. I posted it on this thread. Please give me your take on it. I already know what i need to do.. but want to know/hear everyone's input who's had enough experience with this sign. I am so bummbed but also feel fortunate to know that i've been wasting my time and loyalty for someone who's clearly does not want anything more than just sexual advances. Thank you for your kind advice!Posted by KoniuchaaHumbled. Thank you.Posted by tiki33Love your advice!
ScorpioNluv don't fall into the imaginary relationship trap where there really is no relationship but only mainly benefits. Don't get mentally and emotionally trapped by his boundaries because once you allow yourself to be boxed in by what he wants and not by what you want you're stuck, stuck in a very uncomfortable familiar space where you are being led wherever he wants it to go.
I personally feel you should stop being his 2x's a month routine and only see him when it's convenient for you or stop seeing him at all because you truly can't forge a real relationship unless you spend more time together.
In situations like the one you're in you don't make it about him. You have to make this about you. Are you happy? Is seeing him 2 times a month good enough? How long am I willing to do this with him? And set boundaries for yourself so you don't feel like you're stuck.
Be very transparent with yourself about what you really want. If what you really want is a real relationship than don't expend your energy on a guy whose made it clear he's not interested in being serious with you.
You can can keep seeing him as you explore other dating options or you can keep seeing him and continue to go along to get along or you can stop seeing him and get back out in the dating world.
What do you want for yourself? You should ask yourself that question and reaccess your current relationship and see if your current relationship aligns itself with what you want.
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Posted by KoniuchaaI don't find it cringey at all. I think it's is the truth that i've been looking for. I am sad coz i already love him. But i'll get back up again, like i always do. I look at it as i've collected yet another data. It hurts like crap at the moment tho🙁Posted by ScorpioNluvWhat a cringey message
Ok y'all.. update on this bull- he sent me a text yesterday morning wishing me a good day, etc. i replied "thank you and i wish the same for you. I also would appreciate your honest truth about how u feel". He did not reply. Then this morning i got this text from him😭😭😭
I am a man and I will disappoint u. I care for ur well being and I sincerely want u to experience the fullness and richness of what this life experience has to offer. I no longer strive for love in the way that u express it, but I do have deep gratitude for the real ness people give without the expectation of anything in return. The Universe is doing a work within me now and I will allow it to run its course. It is not God's will for me to bond in a spiritual partnership at this time. But rather I am meant to serve ur spiritual needs. U r a treasure and I see the greatness of ur value. This part of my journey I must do alone.but I hope u will be there for me when I need u... and vice versa
To me i translate this as "i don't want any committment but i want to keep the sexual benefits that you can offer".. i welcome all your input please. I have not replied yet but i plan to send him a text after hearing y'alls take on this so i can gather all the strength to send him a here's my end to this message. Thanks in advance!click to expand

Posted by ScorpioNluvI’m sorry it didn’t work out 😕 but sometimes relationships just are not for everyone and it seems in his case it’s the truth. He’s a Sag moon? He reminds me of a guy I went through similar( minus sex) that I fell for but he just wasn’t for commitment. End story, I found someone that fullfls all my needs, and the one for you is out there as well. You are on the right path 👍Posted by KoniuchaaI don't find it cringey at all. I think it's is the truth that i've been looking for. I am sad coz i already love him. But i'll get back up again, like i always do. I look at it as i've collected yet another data. It hurts like crap at the moment tho🙁Posted by ScorpioNluvWhat a cringey message
Ok y'all.. update on this bull- he sent me a text yesterday morning wishing me a good day, etc. i replied "thank you and i wish the same for you. I also would appreciate your honest truth about how u feel". He did not reply. Then this morning i got this text from him😭😭😭
I am a man and I will disappoint u. I care for ur well being and I sincerely want u to experience the fullness and richness of what this life experience has to offer. I no longer strive for love in the way that u express it, but I do have deep gratitude for the real ness people give without the expectation of anything in return. The Universe is doing a work within me now and I will allow it to run its course. It is not God's will for me to bond in a spiritual partnership at this time. But rather I am meant to serve ur spiritual needs. U r a treasure and I see the greatness of ur value. This part of my journey I must do alone.but I hope u will be there for me when I need u... and vice versa
To me i translate this as "i don't want any committment but i want to keep the sexual benefits that you can offer".. i welcome all your input please. I have not replied yet but i plan to send him a text after hearing y'alls take on this so i can gather all the strength to send him a here's my end to this message. Thanks in advance!
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Posted by tiki33Hey Tiki...It's been a long time.Posted by KoniuchaaHumbled. Thank you.Posted by tiki33Love your advice!
ScorpioNluv don't fall into the imaginary relationship trap where there really is no relationship but only mainly benefits. Don't get mentally and emotionally trapped by his boundaries because once you allow yourself to be boxed in by what he wants and not by what you want you're stuck, stuck in a very uncomfortable familiar space where you are being led wherever he wants it to go.
I personally feel you should stop being his 2x's a month routine and only see him when it's convenient for you or stop seeing him at all because you truly can't forge a real relationship unless you spend more time together.
In situations like the one you're in you don't make it about him. You have to make this about you. Are you happy? Is seeing him 2 times a month good enough? How long am I willing to do this with him? And set boundaries for yourself so you don't feel like you're stuck.
Be very transparent with yourself about what you really want. If what you really want is a real relationship than don't expend your energy on a guy whose made it clear he's not interested in being serious with you.
You can can keep seeing him as you explore other dating options or you can keep seeing him and continue to go along to get along or you can stop seeing him and get back out in the dating world.
What do you want for yourself? You should ask yourself that question and reaccess your current relationship and see if your current relationship aligns itself with what you want.
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Posted by ScorpioNluvi know you're hurt (and i'm very sorry about that) but fuck me, that is some funny shit. that he sincerely thinks that is going to wash is mind boggling.
Ok y'all.. update on this bull- he sent me a text yesterday morning wishing me a good day, etc. i replied "thank you and i wish the same for you. I also would appreciate your honest truth about how u feel". He did not reply. Then this morning i got this text from him😭😭😭
I am a man and I will disappoint u. I care for ur well being and I sincerely want u to experience the fullness and richness of what this life experience has to offer. I no longer strive for love in the way that u express it, but I do have deep gratitude for the real ness people give without the expectation of anything in return. The Universe is doing a work within me now and I will allow it to run its course. It is not God's will for me to bond in a spiritual partnership at this time. But rather I am meant to serve ur spiritual needs. U r a treasure and I see the greatness of ur value. This part of my journey I must do alone.but I hope u will be there for me when I need u... and vice versa
To me i translate this as "i don't want any committment but i want to keep the sexual benefits that you can offer".. i welcome all your input please. I have not replied yet but i plan to send him a text after hearing y'alls take on this so i can gather all the strength to send him a here's my end to this message. Thanks in advance!


Posted by MoonbutterThank you for your kind words. He's aqua moon. I am literally crying atm..but i know this too shall pass. It just hurts so so bad currentlyPosted by ScorpioNluvI’m sorry it didn’t work out 😕 but sometimes relationships just are not for everyone and it seems in his case it’s the truth. He’s a Sag moon? He reminds me of a guy I went through similar( minus sex) that I fell for but he just wasn’t for commitment. End story, I found someone that fullfls all my needs, and the one for you is out there as well. You are on the right path 👍Posted by KoniuchaaI don't find it cringey at all. I think it's is the truth that i've been looking for. I am sad coz i already love him. But i'll get back up again, like i always do. I look at it as i've collected yet another data. It hurts like crap at the moment tho🙁Posted by ScorpioNluvWhat a cringey message
Ok y'all.. update on this bull- he sent me a text yesterday morning wishing me a good day, etc. i replied "thank you and i wish the same for you. I also would appreciate your honest truth about how u feel". He did not reply. Then this morning i got this text from him😭😭😭
I am a man and I will disappoint u. I care for ur well being and I sincerely want u to experience the fullness and richness of what this life experience has to offer. I no longer strive for love in the way that u express it, but I do have deep gratitude for the real ness people give without the expectation of anything in return. The Universe is doing a work within me now and I will allow it to run its course. It is not God's will for me to bond in a spiritual partnership at this time. But rather I am meant to serve ur spiritual needs. U r a treasure and I see the greatness of ur value. This part of my journey I must do alone.but I hope u will be there for me when I need u... and vice versa
To me i translate this as "i don't want any committment but i want to keep the sexual benefits that you can offer".. i welcome all your input please. I have not replied yet but i plan to send him a text after hearing y'alls take on this so i can gather all the strength to send him a here's my end to this message. Thanks in advance!
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Posted by jeane😂 You just made me crack up so hard while crying at the same time! Lol omg thank you!Posted by ScorpioNluvi know you're hurt (and i'm very sorry about that) but fuck me, that is some funny shit. that he sincerely thinks that is going to wash is mind boggling.
Ok y'all.. update on this bull- he sent me a text yesterday morning wishing me a good day, etc. i replied "thank you and i wish the same for you. I also would appreciate your honest truth about how u feel". He did not reply. Then this morning i got this text from him😭😭😭
I am a man and I will disappoint u. I care for ur well being and I sincerely want u to experience the fullness and richness of what this life experience has to offer. I no longer strive for love in the way that u express it, but I do have deep gratitude for the real ness people give without the expectation of anything in return. The Universe is doing a work within me now and I will allow it to run its course. It is not God's will for me to bond in a spiritual partnership at this time. But rather I am meant to serve ur spiritual needs. U r a treasure and I see the greatness of ur value. This part of my journey I must do alone.but I hope u will be there for me when I need u... and vice versa
To me i translate this as "i don't want any committment but i want to keep the sexual benefits that you can offer".. i welcome all your input please. I have not replied yet but i plan to send him a text after hearing y'alls take on this so i can gather all the strength to send him a here's my end to this message. Thanks in advance!
so basically, this is my read of the important parts.
I am a man and I will disappoint u. I care for ur well being and I sincerely want u to experience the fullness and richness of what this life experience has to offer. I no longer strive for love in the way that u express it, but I do have deep gratitude for the real ness people [who] give without the expectation of anything in return. The Universe is doing a work within me now and I will allow it to run its course. It is not God's will for me to [be] bond in a spiritual partnership at this time. But rather I am meant to serve ur spiritual needs. U r a treasure and I see the greatness of ur value. This part of my journey I must do alone.but I hope u will be there for me when I need u... and vice versa
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Posted by DMVSo true. I asked for the truth and here it is. Time to let go of this fantasy. Thank you for your input
Don't even respond.
Just go do you.
This whole thread makes me cringe
Especially the title....
"Again"
How many times you going to do "again"??
you're not going to be the one to change him.

Posted by beautifulsoul74Hey beautiful...yeah it's been a minute but I'm back.Posted by tiki33Hey Tiki...It's been a long time.Posted by KoniuchaaHumbled. Thank you.Posted by tiki33Love your advice!
ScorpioNluv don't fall into the imaginary relationship trap where there really is no relationship but only mainly benefits. Don't get mentally and emotionally trapped by his boundaries because once you allow yourself to be boxed in by what he wants and not by what you want you're stuck, stuck in a very uncomfortable familiar space where you are being led wherever he wants it to go.
I personally feel you should stop being his 2x's a month routine and only see him when it's convenient for you or stop seeing him at all because you truly can't forge a real relationship unless you spend more time together.
In situations like the one you're in you don't make it about him. You have to make this about you. Are you happy? Is seeing him 2 times a month good enough? How long am I willing to do this with him? And set boundaries for yourself so you don't feel like you're stuck.
Be very transparent with yourself about what you really want. If what you really want is a real relationship than don't expend your energy on a guy whose made it clear he's not interested in being serious with you.
You can can keep seeing him as you explore other dating options or you can keep seeing him and continue to go along to get along or you can stop seeing him and get back out in the dating world.
What do you want for yourself? You should ask yourself that question and reaccess your current relationship and see if your current relationship aligns itself with what you want.
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Posted by ScorpioNluvThe message he gave was honest but just a tad cringey because he went the long route to get in your head and emotions to get to the point he was trying to make which is he's not that into you.Posted by DMVSo true. I asked for the truth and here it is. Time to let go of this fantasy. Thank you for your input
Don't even respond.
Just go do you.
This whole thread makes me cringe
Especially the title....
"Again"
How many times you going to do "again"??
you're not going to be the one to change him.
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Posted by tiki33Good to see you.Posted by beautifulsoul74Hey beautiful...yeah it's been a minute but I'm back.Posted by tiki33Hey Tiki...It's been a long time.Posted by KoniuchaaHumbled. Thank you.Posted by tiki33Love your advice!
ScorpioNluv don't fall into the imaginary relationship trap where there really is no relationship but only mainly benefits. Don't get mentally and emotionally trapped by his boundaries because once you allow yourself to be boxed in by what he wants and not by what you want you're stuck, stuck in a very uncomfortable familiar space where you are being led wherever he wants it to go.
I personally feel you should stop being his 2x's a month routine and only see him when it's convenient for you or stop seeing him at all because you truly can't forge a real relationship unless you spend more time together.
In situations like the one you're in you don't make it about him. You have to make this about you. Are you happy? Is seeing him 2 times a month good enough? How long am I willing to do this with him? And set boundaries for yourself so you don't feel like you're stuck.
Be very transparent with yourself about what you really want. If what you really want is a real relationship than don't expend your energy on a guy whose made it clear he's not interested in being serious with you.
You can can keep seeing him as you explore other dating options or you can keep seeing him and continue to go along to get along or you can stop seeing him and get back out in the dating world.
What do you want for yourself? You should ask yourself that question and reaccess your current relationship and see if your current relationship aligns itself with what you want.
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they say that if you share a sun with your partner's moon then that is good for compatibility. my parents had this combination and they certainly weren't compatible. they may be the exception to the rule.
i wasn't really into signs when we met. he would just tell me i was very understanding all the time! ours wasn't a quick, sweep you off your feet, whirlwind romance. it was plodding. i wasn't even into him romantically for about 3 months. he just crept up on me and then it was an uncontrollable attraction/obsession.