issues with Virgo men

This is a really long read but for people interested in this match you might find my thoughts relatable. I wanted to get some Taurus girl input on their experience with Virgo men to see if my experiences were shared by others. so, I've dated two Virgo guys thus far. One was a really long, 3+ year thing, and the other is more recent and has lasted half a year, which I ended a couple days ago. both relationships I ended actually because I couldn't handle it anymore. i believe that the initial attraction between the two is overwhelming. I can find many guys from a variety of signs attractive, funny, and a good time to be with, but I don't feel the mutual chemistry, sexual attraction, and deep seated interest that I almost immediately have with Virgos. There's something about Virgo guys that just makes me melt and really brings out my emotional side. I'm really turned on by the stuff they do.. I find them really smooth, subtle in their actions, able to pick up things quickly, they can read me like nobody else can, very helpful and useful, deeply intelligent even if they're not formally educated, really kind and conscious to other people's physical needs, and amazing in bed. The sex is addicting. But aside from all these positive attributes that make them stand out compared to other men, I have always found them horrible in the romance and relationship department. I constantly feel insecure, unworthy, and unloved in their presence. I haven't found any of the Virgo guys I've been with sensitive to my emotional needs or even notice them at all. it honestly seems like they don't care at all about you, and it can be extremely heart breaking. They don't go out of their way to make you happy and do cute romantic stuff like buy you your favourite flowers or do something they know you love. Moreover, they're extremely critical, from things like your appearance to how your behaviour is. You have to constantly look and be perfect around them. even though the sex feels great, you know they're judging your every stretch mark and flaw, whereas other guys wouldnt even be concerned about that in the moment. on that note I thought the stereotype of them being clean freaks was just that, a stereotype, but it's true. they are nit picky to extreme levels. I've had one pick off the lint from my black pants in a unconscious fashion, another remind me not to get makeup on his shirt (as I went down on him)I also find it extremely difficult to trust them in terms of how they feel towards you and in regards to their loyalty. I feel like they would cheat on you without a second thought and feel no remorse about it. I've noticed that they lie a lot to keep the relationship in tact but then they're really honest about other things, making you confused as to whether or not they are fundamentally honest. I've always wondered if it was possible for a Virgo guy to truly be in love and do selfless romantic gestures for his partner.
has anyone had a similar experience? If so ple

Posted by BlackMamba
Anyways girl get you a crab. Water yourself.

I've kind of been with one in a platonic way. He would do everything and anything for me. I've never felt so spoiled before in my life... it got over the top. Flowers on every date, expensive gifts on a weekly basis for years, love letters, always getting you things that they know you love. Will be there for you emotionally and are so reliable. so selfless but SO CLINGY, overly emotional and sensitive, jealous, possessive, and he didn't think rationally. and, i just wasn't attracted to him. i didn't find him masculine or good looking, so i couldn't date him. i guess I'm the typical girl who goes for the asshole and ignores the nice guy.

are you a taurus btw?

I'm a Scorp and was with a Virgo for 3.5 years. Much of what you said above matches my own experience too. They're very good at doing things for you and being of 'service' but crap at emotional stuff. Like you, I wasn't sure if he actually loved me. He just didn't love me in the way I needed. The lies, omg the constant lies, it actually made me more paranoid which is not good for a Scorp! It was and he was good with some things but truly disgusting in other areas. It just wasn't a match. He had sun, Venus, and Merc in Virgo with Aries moon and gem Mars, libra rising.

I have a Virgo aunt and she's lovely. My sister is Libra sun with Scorp Venus but with Virgo rising and moon. I find she doesn't connect emotionally and can be cold/empty with emotional things. I think they just see things differently. I'm a Scorp sun and Venus with Pisces moon, Leo Mars, and sag Merc and rising so maybe I need more emotional connection.

Totally get where you're coming from with the crab too!!

@Agentp911 Yeah, exactly. They'll help you with services here and there, they'll fix your car for you, but they won't care for you when you're emotionally down, in need of some companionship, or someone to talk to. It always felt so sexually-based, like the whole point of the rship was for sex, no other connection elsewhere even though i did like him and fantasized about him being more romantic. It's hard for us Scorpios and Taurus cause we have good BS detectors, since we're so mistrusting of others, and then when a partner lies, we'll never be able to truly forgive and let go. Once the trust is gone, the rship just goes downhill. We aren't absurd to ask for emotional aid from our partners either. it's actually abnormal on the Virgos end that they're too selfish to provide it. I really think they're just so self absorbed. if it was cause they were in fear of showing their emotions, that would be cute actually, but that's never the case. They just legitimately DONT CARE. they don't see your problems as problems, it doesn't move them. And that's why I felt unloved, probably because they didn't love me. if they did, they would care about whether I'm upset.

@blackmamba wow yea that's fhe problem with cancers!!!! the second I was like you know what, I'll just give him a chance since he's so nice, and would text him, he wouldn't reply back as fast. It went from, I'm not kidding, 100 texts from him a day, 2 from ms, to a normal convo when I showed interest. they only like the chase and I notice cancers love feeling abused and mistreated, they crave it. they love when you ignore and hurt them. I don't want a relationship where I have to pretend I don't care so he's affectionate, that's silly.

@nevermore yep they're extremely self absorbed. are not aware that other people have feelings

So why are we said to be compatible with Virgos since they are unemotional and liars? I don't get it.....because Taurus is the complete opposite.
^^^^^^ Because we both have the same wants and needs as each other in life we just go about it in different ways which makes things complicated. Venus and mercury in mythology were best friends to each other and it shows because Venus and mercury stay closest to each other than any other planets in our solar system and in their average orbit cycle they never stay far apart form each other for long periods of time they always come back to each others side they miss each others company. There just needs to be an understanding and respect on both sides of them once this is done they can achieve anything together as a partnership cause when earth meets earth they collide and form mountains which peaks reach up to the heavens. What Virgo really needs and lacks in their love life is some one who can love them and accecpt them for who they are unconditionally and Taurus is the perfect sign for that because when we love you it's unconditional and accepting. Taurus and Virgo also know how to push each other to our best potential selfs in a gental way when Were both operating at our best levels that is. We also know how to calmly and smoothly explore each others body's which is soooo tantric and important to these two earth signs to release built up energies in a nice and affectionate sensual way which is necessary for these two earthy creatures. Both Taurus and Virgo have amazing gifts as well when put together in a union can accomplish so much you would be surprised at what we can get done together we just need to be more understanding of each others energies because for Taurus and Virgo being together as one can definitely be life changing.

It's funny, because I'm a Mars in Taurus and my bf is a Mars in Virgo. I totally get what you're saying. I KNOW that the ill feelings that creep up in me are due to his MIV. It's hard to explain and it makes you feel as though you're crazy or making a big deal out of nothing, when you just get these inkling of the things that you're describing. On the other hand, my Saggie bestie was married to a Virgo who IMO was the best husband ever. I mean, he wasn't emotional, but he was THERE. He NEVER cheated and he was so naive to her lack of love for HIM that it was mind boggling. To this day, he's the only guy that I know he absolutely hasn't cheated in a committed relationship. Faithful to a fault. I also see my MIV guy not so much being faithful to a fault in that he would never cheat, but faithful to a fault that he won't ever leave this relationship. Like, I'll have to kill something about us first before he would consider walking away. He's very stuck on the idea of US. I think with Virgo energy, that's what you have to focus on, the fact that they WILL commit and once committed, they don't ever go away unless pushed away by extremes. Emotional extremes being one type of extreme that I feel can push a Virgo away. They do conflict VERY well. I'm not sure if they're attracted to drama, but I've never seen any other energy do conflict and weird relationships that don't fit the norm the way a Virgo does. Maybe that's their relationship gift. All 12 sign energies have relationship gifts and relationship challenges.

Did you ever feel like your Virgo wasn't willing to go the distance with you? I mean despite the critical nature, etc. Some of that just has to be overlooked in a relationship which I know is hard, because a relationship touches every inch of your soft spots. Virgos aren't kind to soft spots and in fact relish in noticing as well as poking at them. I think it's actually a form of flattery for them. Kind of like, "You're fortunate that I took the time to notice these soft spots that other people will overlook, because they're not that interested in you."

Posted by LentoBull91
So why are we said to be compatible with Virgos since they are unemotional and liars? I don't get it.....because Taurus is the complete opposite.
^^^^^^ Because we both have the same wants and needs as each other in life we just go about it in different ways which makes things complicated. Venus and mercury in mythology were best friends to each other and it shows because Venus and mercury stay closest to each other than any other planets in our solar system and in their average orbit cycle they never stay far apart form each other for long periods of time they always come back to each others side they miss each others company. There just needs to be an understanding and respect on both sides of them once this is done they can achieve anything together as a partnership cause when earth meets earth they collide and form mountains which peaks reach up to the heavens. What Virgo really needs and lacks in their love life is some one who can love them and accecpt them for who they are unconditionally and Taurus is the perfect sign for that because when we love you it's unconditional and accepting. Taurus and Virgo also know how to push each other to our best potential selfs in a gental way when Were both operating at our best levels that is. We also know how to calmly and smoothly explore each others body's which is soooo tantric and important to these two earth signs to release built up energies in a nice and affectionate sensual way which is necessary for these two earthy creatures. Both Taurus and Virgo have amazing gifts as well when put together in a union can accomplish so much you would be surprised at what we can get done together we just need to be more understanding of each others energies because for Taurus and Virgo being together as one can definitely be life changing.

Man, you give me hope.

Posted by MsTeeq1974
They do conflict VERY well. I'm not sure if they're attracted to drama, but I've never seen any other energy do conflict and weird relationships that don't fit the norm the way a Virgo does. Maybe that's their relationship gift.

It's all about damage control. We're good mediators. There's a thin line with conflicts though..a Virgo will work through them unless the other party has no awareness of what they've done. If you're emotionally volatile for the sake of inflicting drama..and don't take a look at yourself..a Virgo will walk.

Unless they're married I guess. I'm pretty sure my mother could have come short to killing my father and he still wouldn't have walked. He loved her and had strong ethic, strong values and principles. But that's another story.

I only know one Virgo who is a complete player.

Posted by MsTeeq1974
"You're fortunate that I took the time to notice these soft spots that other people will overlook, because they're not that interested in you."

I truly wished more people would acknowledge this.

It's the difference between someone telling you there's spinach between your teeth and you have an important meeting next...vs someone who really doesn't give a fuck.

But people are very high on emotional validation in the modern world. I feel Virgos belonged in other times..we're obsolete as far as partner fantasies go in this day and age.

Posted by Damnata

Posted by MsTeeq1974
They do conflict VERY well. I'm not sure if they're attracted to drama, but I've never seen any other energy do conflict and weird relationships that don't fit the norm the way a Virgo does. Maybe that's their relationship gift.

It's all about damage control. We're good mediators. There's a thin line with conflicts though..a Virgo will work through them unless the other party has no awareness of what they've done. If you're emotionally volatile for the sake of inflicting drama..and don't take a look at yourself..a Virgo will walk.

Unless they're married I guess. I'm pretty sure my mother could have come short to killing my father and he still wouldn't have walked. He loved her and had strong ethic, strong values and principles. But that's another story.

I only know one Virgo who is a complete player.

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Makes sense...you can't repair if damage is never acknowledged...OUTSIDE of marriage. Yes, the Virgo I'm referring to wouldn't have ever left my Saggie friend. I think marriage does take things to a whole other level for a Virgo which I think why some of them kind of rush into it all. Almost like they know they want to be bonded to someone for life and that marriage will keep them there. The Virgo male friend that I have who keeps making advances towards me...unfortunately he's gotten to the point that it's either him making direct advances or nothing at all...which means the friendship is over and done with (shame!), but he's been married twice and doesn't ever want to get married again. This is why I steered clear of getting involved with him romantically. You can't very well complain that someone won't marry you if they tell you up front that they're never doing it again...you know?

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Posted by MsTeeq1974
"You're fortunate that I took the time to notice these soft spots that other people will overlook, because they're not that interested in you."

I truly wished more people would acknowledge this.

It's the difference between someone telling you there's spinach between your teeth and you have an important meeting next...vs someone who really doesn't give a fuck.

But people are very high on emotional validation in the modern world. I feel Virgos belonged in other times..we're obsolete as far as partner fantasies go in this day and age.

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I got this right away with my bf. He said something about me going out drinking every payday and we were only 3 weeks into things. He said, "Anyone who doesn't notice that is blind as hell." I laughed and looked forward to him seeing all of nuances, sensitivities, and faults. It was relieving to know that someone WOULD be paying attention to my faults and not be caught off guard later on down the line. You're right about the "fantasy" part. I know you constantly see me harping on realistic expectations in relationships. People just don't seem to get it. Maybe I do because Virgo rules my 5th house of romance. I want to see my partner's flaws sooner than later so that I can learn to work with them instead of looking for flaws for the sake of convincing myself that the person is not the one for me. There's a lot about the practicalities of romance that I think are more ador driving than what people think of as romance these days. Like, what is more arduous than smelling a person's stink and wanting to cuddle with them anyways...see, IMO that is SO romantic. It's like, I love your stanky drawls and I don't give a FUCK! To me...that's romance. Not this other woosey childish stuff that people are begging for these days.

In all honesty, I can't fault the other 11 signs for not picking this with Virgos.

Emotional reciprocity is a requirement in a relationship and most Virgos fall short...well not in that we don't care, we care deeply. But the expression isn't that good so partners feel unloved.

I mean with other signs and their faults...they get a pass on theirs because the partners still get validated emotionally.

Aries's partner: "Well they have a temper and they're impulsive...but I feel loved"
Taurus's partner: "Well maybe they are a bit boring and stale but they enjoy romance ..and I feel love"

...and so on and on

Virgo's partner : "He/she is really good to me but..something is missing"

People have no problem with emotional validation with the other 11 signs...so probably Virgos are a bitter pill to swallow in that department. Other signs's flaws..partners still feel loved. Ours...they don't feel loved.

I really think you have to be extremely self-aware of your actions and observant to see Virgo love at play.

Obviously this applies for the nice Virgos. The player Virgos.. *pushes all of them off a cliff*

It's just sad to me because we're willing to always give people the benefit of the doubt and see different scenarios...but we don't really get that in return.

And on top of that we're Earth...and all 3 Earth signs get people mad at them because our pacing is different than the other 3 elements.

.a Virgo will work through them unless the other party has no awareness of what they've done. If you're emotionally volatile for the sake of inflicting drama..and don't take a look at yourself..a Virgo will walk.
^^^^^^^ this right here hit too close to home ¢ I wish I knew about astrology when I was with my Virgo it could have helped me not screw up such a good thing in my life I was too dumb to see the error of my ways and how badly they were effecting her emotionally until eventually she had enough of my bs and she walked away that was the tuffest reality pill I've had to swallow so far in life. Losing a Virgo sucks they're such great people who are soooo misunderstood its really a shame because they truely are perfection in human form imo. They will care for you in their own special way its not hard to notice it if you really observe them which I think most people dont.I never felt alone with her I always knew she had my back and best interests at heart because her actions spoke volumes I will never forget her.

I feel Virgos belonged in other times..we're obsolete as far as partner fantasies go in this day and age.
^^^^^^ I feel like tauruses belong in a different time as well which is why I think Taurus and virgos are great for each other two ancient earth souls longing for a classic romance which people don't understand and can offer in this day of age. Virgos are definitely a partner fantasy to this Taurus soul I hope I someday get blessed with another opportunity with the Virgo I've made sure to learn from my mistakes.

Posted by Damnata
In all honesty, I can't fault the other 11 signs for not picking this with Virgos.

Emotional reciprocity is a requirement in a relationship and most Virgos fall short...well not in that we don't care, we care deeply. But the expression isn't that good so partners feel unloved.

I mean with other signs and their faults...they get a pass on theirs because the partners still get validated emotionally.

Aries's partner: "Well they have a temper and they're impulsive...but I feel loved"
Taurus's partner: "Well maybe they are a bit boring and stale but they enjoy romance ..and I feel love"

...and so on and on

Virgo's partner : "He/she is really good to me but..something is missing"

People have no problem with emotional validation with the other 11 signs...so probably Virgos are a bitter pill to swallow in that department. Other signs's flaws..partners still feel loved. Ours...they don't feel loved.

I really think you have to be extremely self-aware of your actions and observant to see Virgo love at play.

Obviously this applies for the nice Virgos. The player Virgos.. *pushes all of them off a cliff*

It's just sad to me because we're willing to always give people the benefit of the doubt and see different scenarios...but we don't really get that in return.

Can't argue this with the situation that I just dealt with. However, face to face...I don't feel like anything is missing. Like, I just didn't have that feeling when we were together on the day to day. I received the emotional validation by him showing up and wanting to physically BE there. I'm not saying that I don't like romance, etc...but there's something about when a person gives you THEMSELVES that I just can't overlook. That to me is more important than anything else you can get in a relationship. Too many people substitute flowery words, gifts, false pretense and promises for what is really needed in a relationship...IMO...the other person. I'd take a person's quality time and just interacting together over anything else...period. Again, a matter of personal preference. My Mars in Taurus demands that the other shows up as a means of showing love, attachment, attraction, and in attempts to provide security. IDK...I feel what you're saying and yes, I agree to an extent, but at the same time, I find the presence of another such a gift that everything else pales in comparison.

Posted by LentoBull91
.a Virgo will work through them unless the other party has no awareness of what they've done. If you're emotionally volatile for the sake of inflicting drama..and don't take a look at yourself..a Virgo will walk.
^^^^^^^ this right here hit too close to home ¢ I wish I knew about astrology when I was with my Virgo it could have helped me not screw up such a good thing in my life I was too dumb to see the error of my ways and how badly they were effecting her emotionally until eventually she had enough of my bs and she walked away that was the tuffest reality pill I've had to swallow so far in life. Losing a Virgo sucks they're such great people who are soooo misunderstood its really a shame because they truely are perfection in human form imo. They will care for you in their own special way its not hard to notice it if you really observe them which I think most people dont.I never felt alone with her I always knew she had my back and best interests at heart because her actions spoke volumes I will never forget her.

I feel Virgos belonged in other times..we're obsolete as far as partner fantasies go in this day and age.
^^^^^^ I feel like tauruses belong in a different time as well which is why I think Taurus and virgos are great for each other two ancient earth souls longing for a classic romance which people don't understand and can offer in this day of age. Virgos are definitely a partner fantasy to this Taurus soul I hope I someday get blessed with another opportunity with the Virgo I've made sure to learn from my mistakes.

You seem to like us a WHOLE lot. I only hope you don't run into one of the player Virgo chicks like my Scorpio friend did. They also have the advantage of innocence on their side and it can really ruin their partners. But a really good Virgo would be a good match for you.

Posted by MsTeeq1974

Posted by Damnata
In all honesty, I can't fault the other 11 signs for not picking this with Virgos.

Emotional reciprocity is a requirement in a relationship and most Virgos fall short...well not in that we don't care, we care deeply. But the expression isn't that good so partners feel unloved.

I mean with other signs and their faults...they get a pass on theirs because the partners still get validated emotionally.

Aries's partner: "Well they have a temper and they're impulsive...but I feel loved"
Taurus's partner: "Well maybe they are a bit boring and stale but they enjoy romance ..and I feel love"

...and so on and on

Virgo's partner : "He/she is really good to me but..something is missing"

People have no problem with emotional validation with the other 11 signs...so probably Virgos are a bitter pill to swallow in that department. Other signs's flaws..partners still feel loved. Ours...they don't feel loved.

I really think you have to be extremely self-aware of your actions and observant to see Virgo love at play.

Obviously this applies for the nice Virgos. The player Virgos.. *pushes all of them off a cliff*

It's just sad to me because we're willing to always give people the benefit of the doubt and see different scenarios...but we don't really get that in return.

Can't argue this with the situation that I just dealt with. However, face to face...I don't feel like anything is missing. Like, I just didn't have that feeling when we were together on the day to day. I received the emotional validation by him showing up and wanting to physically BE there. I'm not saying that I don't like romance, etc...but there's something about when a person gives you THEMSELVES that I just can't overlook. That to me is more important than anything else you can get in a relationship. Too many people substitute flowery words, gifts, false pretense and promises for what is really needed in a relationship...IMO...the other person. I'd take a person's quality time and just interacting together over anything else...period. Again, a matter of personal preference. My Mars in Taurus demands that the other shows up as a means of showing love, attachment, attraction, and in attempts to provide security. IDK...I feel what you're saying and yes, I agree to an extent, but at the same time, I find the presence of another such a gift that everything else pales in comparison.

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My ex has Taurus Mars and Taurus Ascendant. I feel you on that.

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Posted by Damnata
In all honesty, I can't fault the other 11 signs for not picking this with Virgos.

Emotional reciprocity is a requirement in a relationship and most Virgos fall short...well not in that we don't care, we care deeply. But the expression isn't that good so partners feel unloved.

I mean with other signs and their faults...they get a pass on theirs because the partners still get validated emotionally.

Aries's partner: "Well they have a temper and they're impulsive...but I feel loved"
Taurus's partner: "Well maybe they are a bit boring and stale but they enjoy romance ..and I feel love"

...and so on and on

Virgo's partner : "He/she is really good to me but..something is missing"

People have no problem with emotional validation with the other 11 signs...so probably Virgos are a bitter pill to swallow in that department. Other signs's flaws..partners still feel loved. Ours...they don't feel loved.

I really think you have to be extremely self-aware of your actions and observant to see Virgo love at play.

Obviously this applies for the nice Virgos. The player Virgos.. *pushes all of them off a cliff*

It's just sad to me because we're willing to always give people the benefit of the doubt and see different scenarios...but we don't really get that in return.

Truth.

OP talked about the lint picking? The Boy has two cats and hair gets on everything so he has a mitten that you rub on your clothes to remove the fuzzies. Got ready to leave his place for work one day and realized my clothes had gotten covered in cat hair. We were in a bit of a rush, but he took the time to get handsy with his mitten and clean me off. It's stuff like that and a million little things that people either don't notice or tend to take the wrong way. He didn't care about that for himself. He cared about it for me! Care, effort, attention to detail... what is that if not showing love?

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Whenever you post about him I get my dad's mental image. I feel like suffocating him with a pillow sometimes when I go home and the first thing he does is inspect me..but I find him so endearing.

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Posted by Damnata
In all honesty, I can't fault the other 11 signs for not picking this with Virgos.

Emotional reciprocity is a requirement in a relationship and most Virgos fall short...well not in that we don't care, we care deeply. But the expression isn't that good so partners feel unloved.

I mean with other signs and their faults...they get a pass on theirs because the partners still get validated emotionally.

Aries's partner: "Well they have a temper and they're impulsive...but I feel loved"
Taurus's partner: "Well maybe they are a bit boring and stale but they enjoy romance ..and I feel love"

...and so on and on

Virgo's partner : "He/she is really good to me but..something is missing"

People have no problem with emotional validation with the other 11 signs...so probably Virgos are a bitter pill to swallow in that department. Other signs's flaws..partners still feel loved. Ours...they don't feel loved.

I really think you have to be extremely self-aware of your actions and observant to see Virgo love at play.

Obviously this applies for the nice Virgos. The player Virgos.. *pushes all of them off a cliff*

It's just sad to me because we're willing to always give people the benefit of the doubt and see different scenarios...but we don't really get that in return.

Truth.

OP talked about the lint picking? The Boy has two cats and hair gets on everything so he has a mitten that you rub on your clothes to remove the fuzzies. Got ready to leave his place for work one day and realized my clothes had gotten covered in cat hair. We were in a bit of a rush, but he took the time to get handsy with his mitten and clean me off. It's stuff like that and a million little things that people either don't notice or tend to take the wrong way. He didn't care about that for himself. He cared about it for me! Care, effort, attention to detail... what is that if not showing love?

Whenever you post about him I get my dad's mental image. I feel like suffocating him with a pillow sometimes when I go home and the first thing he does is inspect me..but I find him so endearing.

Don't mind me, I'm just disgustingly happy. He meets the rents this week. Cross your toes for me! 😄

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Parents adore me so I am crossing my toes and my goodluck too. Go forth and shine, Virgo brethren.

Earth sign sappiness is so endearing to me. lol.

update: I actually got back with him. i guess i couldn't resist. underneath all the things that annoyed me about him, i really felt that he truly did care and like me. he was really persistent in making things right, such as calling everyday for the week non-stop when I would just ignore, then msging my best friend to get her to make me call him. i don't think he's a player either, and so far he has been really loyal to me, which is a big deal as a taurus. I'm kind of crazy and super paranoid (pls don't judge) and would figure out ways to see if he would stray, see if he takes the bait, and he never did. he's also really clueless w/ technology so he would never know i pulled this stuff off, but the fact that he would always tell everyone I'm his girlfriend, even when we weren't technically together, really warmed my heart. i'm kind of getting over the stuff that pissed me off. he brought me a big bear and some roses the other day too, calls and texts me multiple times everyday at different times, is so possessive and jealous over me in a cute way, and i love being in his company over all. virgo guys make me feel really safe and i love the way they think. i think a poster was saying how it turned her on how her bf noticed she goes out drinking whenever she gets paid, and its little stuff like that a virgo will notice that i find adorable. at the same time, it can be really frustrating. any small err that one makes in front of a virgo never goes unnoticed cause they're carefully watching you. carefully putting stray pieces of hair back into place, immediately fixing your own bed after having sex.. that has to be a virgo thing. nonetheless, i still think he needs to loosen up a bit. i think i read somewhere that virgo men have a lot of tense, nervous energy in them, and i can definitely see that there is a lot of anxiety going on in his mind. probably with time he will be more expressive and comfortable.

I'm just going to say this and I'm not trying to be mean.

Going back to Damnata's example of spinach being in someone's teeth. While it is a beautiful and noble gesture, realistically it's not that simple. Truth is, others give the Virgo that very same gift in different ways and I quite often see them fail to recognize it. Why? Because it's not done in the "preciseness" that Virgo demands. It's not done exactly how they see it should be done. The sad thing is, the perfection they seek is actually in the unevenness they loathe.

I honestly feel they see emotions as a weakness. Uneven, not smooth...not precise...not perfect.mBut that is life itself. It is how we live is tied to emotions...to "feeling." Heck Virgos look for others to validate their feelings so it's hypocritical to then deny that to someone. It's understandable to not want to be with someone who is an emotional burden but most people do have feelings and they want them accepted...and respected. They want emotional content and it's more than just about tidying up something. If I have a problem and I need someone to talk to...can I rely on you? Sometimes it's about more than just gestures. It about that emotional connection.

Posted by beautifulsoul74
I'm just going to say this and I'm not trying to be mean.

Going back to Damnata's example of spinach being in someone's teeth. While it is a beautiful and noble gesture, realistically it's not that simple. Truth is, others give the Virgo that very same gift in different ways and I quite often see them fail to recognize it. Why? Because it's not done in the "preciseness" that Virgo demands. It's not done exactly how they see it should be done. The sad thing is, the perfection they seek is actually in the unevenness they loathe.

I agree. Won't expand on this because..well..I agree. lol. I might argue that is as a question of nuance and to me few people see more than one nuance ..but we all generalize so I will look at the essence of this and just agree that it's probably like that for Virgo partners.

Posted by beautifulsoul74
I honestly feel they see emotions as a weakness. Uneven, not smooth...not precise...not perfect.mBut that is life itself. It is how we live is tied to emotions...to "feeling." Heck Virgos look for others to validate their feelings so it's hypocritical to then deny that to someone. It's understandable to not want to be with someone who is an emotional burden but most people do have feelings and they want them accepted...and respected. They want emotional content and it's more than just about tidying up something. If I have a problem and I need someone to talk to...can I rely on you? Sometimes it's about more than just gestures. It about that emotional connection.

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I disagree. It's about the ways people take to validate their emotions..Virgos might look for others to validate theirs but in the same vein as others do. We're very low key with that. And like I said, it's not denial, it's a problem with expressing. Also partner's feelings can be respected and acknowledged and still the person might feel something is off. Is that "off" feeling partners of Virgos get out of an expression problem, not out of nonexistant feelings Virgos have towards them.

As far as having a problem and being able to talk to me..I haven't met a Virgo who hasn't been there for people..not only for loved ones. I see them doing it for complete strangers if they have time in their day and they can help. Virgos know deep shades of emotional connection and relating escape their awareness...so they make up for that with acceptance and trying to understand. Maybe that's not enough..but no one says every person in the world would be happy in a partnership with a Virgo. I'm saying few can..and not in a snobby way. Realistically, few people can.

It still feels to me that with other signs..people might give them more than enough rope to hang themselves with...but this flaw of Virgo isn't tolerated and they are cut abru

It still feels to me that with other signs..people might give them more than enough rope to hang themselves with...but this flaw of Virgo isn't tolerated and they are cut abruptly. It's almost a knee jerk reaction I don't see with other partnerships. I've seen people forgive endless streams of douchebaggery from people who would screw them over sideways in all manners and showcase zero respect...yet if at the same time the douchebags have them by the emotional connection balls..these people stay. Have a Virgo make a wrong step and all hell breaks loose.

An emotional self-aware person will have no problem with a Virgo. An emotionally volatile person won't even make it past the door. Huge difference, and it always gets misunderstood as "Virgos don't want emotional partners". The Virgo I am talking about is all about catering to their partners's feelings..as foreign and unknown those might be to them. The other Virgos..yeah fuck those Virgos.

So Virgo and Taurus are earth signs but view things differently. I am an abstract thinker. Virgo are not. So right there is going to be either helpful or critical..depending on certain conversations.. Taurus are stubborn and hard headed, Virgo is not

Like my virgo mom is into politics and I am not hardly. She's always talking about things I don't feel relevant to share and open up. But she insist I know which president is better and why. And I'll listen for a minute and judge that.

It can be constantly nagging or something like that and Taurus gets frustrated. Virgo is only helping you expand the mind of a Taurus but sometimes can't. And if you do do it without criticizing and yelling.

My mom always that I wasn't emotional enough. Like I hate or don't love her. I don't see why she would say hurting things. I do get sensitive when some one says you cold hearted. And I say no I am not. Then the debate starts. Her words and my action of loving mom and daughter relationship. Is good and bad.

Sorry I don't know any virgo males. I met one and have a parent that is..so I don't know.. but hope everything works out.

@Damnata:

Ok, you have to realize that other signs catch hell and are left for different reasons but that doesn't equate to Virgos somehow getting the short end of the stick in the consideration dept.

I agree with a few of your points but you have to look at the heart of the issue. You mentioned lack of expression on the part of the Virgo...but I'm sorry...that's an issue with the Virgo themselves and not a fault or unreasonable expectation of the other person. Hence, why I often see them pairing with water signs...to understand that emotional expression.

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I have always found them horrible in the romance and relationship department. I constantly feel insecure, unworthy, and unloved in their presence. I haven't found any of the Virgo guys I've been with sensitive to my emotional needs or even notice them at all. it honestly seems like they don't care at all about you, and it can be extremely heart breaking. They don't go out of their way to make you happy and do cute romantic stuff like buy you your favourite flowers or do something they know you love. Moreover, they're extremely critical, from things like your appearance to how your behaviour is. You have to constantly look and be perfect around them. even though the sex feels great, you know they're judging your every stretch mark and flaw, whereas other guys wouldnt even be concerned about that in the moment. on that note I thought the stereotype of them being clean freaks was just that, a stereotype, but it's true. they are nit picky to extreme levels. I've had one pick off the lint from my black pants in a unconscious fashion, another remind me not to get makeup on his shirt (as I went down on him)I also find it extremely difficult to trust them in terms of how they feel towards you and in regards to their loyalty. I feel like they would cheat on you without a second thought and feel no remorse about it. I've noticed that they lie a lot to keep the relationship in tact but then they're really honest about other things, making you confused as to whether or not they are fundamentally honest. I've always wondered if it was possible for a Virgo guy to truly be in love and do selfless romantic gestures for his partner.
has anyone had a similar experience?

I agree with some of what u stated. What I love about Virgo men is that they are stable and I love their quick witty mind. They are great providers but I have to agree about the love dept. I was with my ex virgo between 8 years and it was one hell of a ride. He cheated numerous times. He only saw what he wanted but demand that you give him all your attention regardless how he treats you. He was excellent on communicating everything except his feelings. I am good at reading between the lines but it became a bit of a problem towards the end of our relationship. I'm sure not all virgo men are like this but he was too much with his playing victim ways and extreme insecurity with himself and etc. I couldn't deal with his criticism after awhile only because he set this high expectation for me but he was only 1/3 of those standards.

Posted by beautifulsoul74
@Damnata:

Ok, you have to realize that other signs catch hell and are left for different reasons but that doesn't equate to Virgos somehow getting the short end of the stick in the consideration dept.

I agree with a few of your points but you have to look at the heart of the issue. You mentioned lack of expression on the part of the Virgo...but I'm sorry...that's an issue with the Virgo themselves and not a fault or unreasonable expectation of the other person. Hence, why I often see them pairing with water signs...to understand that emotional expression.

I said the lack of emotional expression is clearly a Virgo flaw. I'm not making justifications for it.

I'm 50-50 on water signs....because water signs take emotional expressions to exist only if it fits their specific expectation of how it should be expressed. There's a self-aborbtion at play there..hence 50-50.

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Posted by Damnata
In all honesty, I can't fault the other 11 signs for not picking this with Virgos.

Emotional reciprocity is a requirement in a relationship and most Virgos fall short...well not in that we don't care, we care deeply. But the expression isn't that good so partners feel unloved.

I mean with other signs and their faults...they get a pass on theirs because the partners still get validated emotionally.

Aries's partner: "Well they have a temper and they're impulsive...but I feel loved"
Taurus's partner: "Well maybe they are a bit boring and stale but they enjoy romance ..and I feel love"

...and so on and on

Virgo's partner : "He/she is really good to me but..something is missing"

People have no problem with emotional validation with the other 11 signs...so probably Virgos are a bitter pill to swallow in that department. Other signs's flaws..partners still feel loved. Ours...they don't feel loved.

I really think you have to be extremely self-aware of your actions and observant to see Virgo love at play.

Obviously this applies for the nice Virgos. The player Virgos.. *pushes all of them off a cliff*

It's just sad to me because we're willing to always give people the benefit of the doubt and see different scenarios...but we don't really get that in return.

Can't argue this with the situation that I just dealt with. However, face to face...I don't feel like anything is missing. Like, I just didn't have that feeling when we were together on the day to day. I received the emotional validation by him showing up and wanting to physically BE there. I'm not saying that I don't like romance, etc...but there's something about when a person gives you THEMSELVES that I just can't overlook. That to me is more important than anything else you can get in a relationship. Too many people substitute flowery words, gifts, false pretense and promises for what is really needed in a relationship...IMO...the other person. I'd take a person's quality time and just interacting together over anything else...period. Again, a matter of personal preference. My Mars in Taurus demands that the other shows up as a means of showing love, attachment, attraction, and in attempts to provide security. IDK...I feel what you're saying and yes, I agree to an extent, but at the same time, I find the presence of another such a gift that everything else pales in comparison.

You're with a Scorpio what does this have to do with Virgo—

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His Mars is in Virgo and in a man's chart, Mars is how he acts to attract. So

Posted by BlackMamba
Please post this on Virgo forum so they can get it

Yes

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Anyways girl get you a crab. Water yourself.

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