The Ways in Which a Bull Controls...

So I know that Taureans like to be in control. I also know that they are stubborn. The question is, however, do they appreciate those qualities in others? Or does it become a battle of wills? For example: If one gets into a disagreement with a Bull, does the Bull appreciate when the other person sees his side? Or does he view this as being wishy-washy? Would he rather the other person battle it out with him (because he can appreciate the stubbornness)?

In my experience bulls do like you to have an opinion... THEIRS!!!!!

After a disagreement with my Taurus girlfriend I confided in a friend, and his advice to me was "finish with her now, otherwise, before you know it you'll be asking "how high?" every time she says jump, and then three months later she'll finish with you for not being a strong enough character."

This is the paradox. I get the distinct impression that my bull wants someone independent and strong-willed, but also she never wants to back down in an argument and would sooner not speak to me at all than admit being in the wrong. So, if I'm the strong-willed person that she says she wants we'll be at loggerheads all of the time, but if I try to avoid conflict she'll never respect me because the only way to do so is to always be the one that backs down.

Posted by bluelilac

>>> awww that's just her style ... cause we're sooooo stubborn and proud we will NEVER admit we are wrong.
but trust me-- you showing that you have the balls to lock horns with her is one heck of a real turn-on 🙂

My only concern with that is that we??re only here for 70, 80, 90 years, whatever, and then we die and that's it, forever! So, I would rather spend as much of the time I have on this planet being happy, whereas my bull seems to be perfectly happy to squander weeks of —happy time?? sulking about things, so I have to back-down eventually otherwise there simply wouldn't be any fun. Maybe being in a sulk is enjoyable for her, but for me it just causes anxiety and makes me lose my appetite. My ex was a Leo and we used to have the occasional blazing row, but we??d quickly make up and soon be ripping each other??s clothes off. My bull just sulks for ages and then gradually lets me off the hook, but there's no definite point of forgiveness and no passionate —making-up??.

I'm not a —surrender monkey?? but I do like happiness and harmony with a partner and find that, in order to maintain this, I have to let more of myself go than I??d like to.

I guess, in answer to the original question, bulls do appreciate similar qualities to theirs in another person, and they certainly appreciate someone seeing their side of an argument, just don't expect them ever to see your side, or even to acknowledge that it exists!!!!!

my experience with the taurean and control issues... it's not that bad!

i honestly don't relate much to this problem. i have the most experience with taureans out of all the other signs out there. my past 2 best friends, my current one, the 2 guys i'm dating, etc... one of the taureans i am dating actually is very opposite. this is why i think his aqua moon has a strong hold on him. he's all about going with the flow and not trying to control everything. it is what it is. i think the other taurus i'm dating just wants to control the direction in which we're going but i won't allow it and he's too passive. i think he wants us to be exclusive but he knows better. so he is probably a little bit more of a control freak. he found his upper hand when it comes to communicating. he's been blowing me off a lot lately by not returning texts/calls and doing this passive-aggressive silent treatment technique. too bad it won't work on me but whatever. it was fun!

For me, tell me what you are thinking and feeling in a clear and concise way. Don't pussy foot around something, just bring it and we can discuss it. Sometimes we may come out on the same side; sometimes we may have to agree to disagree, but one thing is for certain, I prefer to be "in the know" versus sitting around scratching my head wondering what is going on and what that person is thinking. Also, I respect a person who expresses themself (even if I disagree) and are also willing to "see" your side and respect your opinion, even if they disagree. I'm that way, so I guess I expect the same from others. I abhor whining, and I don't want some pushover guy - TURNOFF! Don't agree with everything I say, because I will think you are just doing it to placate me and trying to get me to shut up (trust me, I know this tact, because I do it with some people just to get them to shut the hell up too!)

By the way, I don't ever want to control someone, and I don't want someone trying to control me. I DO want someone who isn't afraid to speak their mind, and shuffle me in my place if I need it 😉 There is NOTHING more attractive and sexy (to me) is a man who is intellectually strong and able to hang with me in a debate or discussion.

that should have been "than a man" instead of "is a man".

Me being an argumentative aries, it can become a battle of wills. He does say he appreciates my fiesty behavior and wouldn't want a women who was complacent but I sometimes wonder if that's really the case.
My bull likes to teach...he's a story teller really. He could talk about one subject for hours. So, he appreciates any opportunity where he can "educate" someone. He is pretty much a know-it-all and we can butt heads sometimes because of this.
I believe they can appreciate both you siding with them and also disagreeing with them. He's never gotten upset either way. It's usually me who ends up upset!! 🙂

Yeah, I could see that ramfish. I only sort of dated one Aries, and he was too much like my dad (who is an aries/taurus cusps). He annoyed the snot out of me, and there was no way it was going to evah' work. Plus, overall, I don't really get a long with Aries. One of my best friends dated an Aries girl, and he made me be friends with her 😢. While I don't get a long with them, I can say that Aries (in general) are very big-hearted people (would give you their last dollar); tenacious and very bright. On the flip side, my personality doesn't deal well with their extremely competitive nature. I'm a laid back individual, and I feel that they are too high-strung for me. I do get bored easily, and I can say one thing, you can't get bored dating an Aries!

Posted by USCTaurusGal
Yeah, I could see that ramfish. I only sort of dated one Aries, and he was too much like my dad (who is an aries/taurus cusps). He annoyed the snot out of me, and there was no way it was going to evah' work. Plus, overall, I don't really get a long with Aries. One of my best friends dated an Aries girl, and he made me be friends with her 😢. While I don't get a long with them, I can say that Aries (in general) are very big-hearted people (would give you their last dollar); tenacious and very bright. On the flip side, my personality doesn't deal well with their extremely competitive nature. I'm a laid back individual, and I feel that they are too high-strung for me. I do get bored easily, and I can say one thing, you can't get bored dating an Aries!

All you just said is very true and very perceptive USC!
My taurus is so laid back I have to check is plus every so often. We are pretty much complete opposites in the emotion rhelm. Nope, we are definitely not boring!

I respect someone who tells me their opinion - but I expect them to back it up. Not simply have it be their opinion for the sake of having one at all. If you want me to see your side of then convince me you know what oyu're talking about. As far as being "weak" - I don't know what's intended by weak, because I like a "soft" man who tells me his problems and likes to be cuddly and make me happy - and I like to make him happy in return. I like harmony and taking care of each other - I only want to be in control when I can see things are getting out of hand and someone with their head on straight needs to take the reins.

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Posted by xangelfishx
I respect someone who tells me their opinion - but I expect them to back it up. Not simply have it be their opinion for the sake of having one at all. If you want me to see your side of then convince me you know what oyu're talking about. As far as being "weak" - I don't know what's intended by weak, because I like a "soft" man who tells me his problems and likes to be cuddly and make me happy - and I like to make him happy in return. I like harmony and taking care of each other - I only want to be in control when I can see things are getting out of hand and someone with their head on straight needs to take the reins.

I'm exactly the same.also,with me it depends on who I'm dealing with as to how far it goes.if I'm dealing with a scorpio or someone arrogant or hateful,I will fight to the death and never back down.if I'm dealing with someone not on my level of strength I will tone it down accordingly because I do not like to hurt people,even when they deserve it.
but I would much rather have the harmony angelfish speaks of.
but yes,I'm very oppinionated....and they are always right 😉

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I agree, me too.

Posted by BellaBulleautiful

Posted by xangelfishx
I only want to be in control when I can see things are getting out of hand and someone with their head on straight needs to take the reins.

I don't want to be in control of people or relationships.but that being said,I had to take control in my marriage and step up because he is a major alcoholic and is a scorpio with a cancer moon.....which makes him a control freak with no self control.when you have kids and a home,someone has to be in control.even now that I'm no longer with him,I still have to control certain things in regards to that situation.
I'm also the one in an emergency that is very much in control.
but as far as men go,I want to try out what angelfish said..... and I don't want to have to be in control.

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That's exactly what I'm talking about - I hate being in control, but if the situation calls for it I'll always be the one to step up and make sure things are getting handled. I won't ever be one of those people that sits back and watches things happen to them or others who need help.

"That's exactly what I'm talking about - I hate being in control, but if the situation calls for it I'll always be the one to step up and make sure things are getting handled. I won't ever be one of those people that sits back and watches things happen to them or others who need help."

I agree, and I think that goes to a comment I made either earlier on this thread or another thread where it was stated that Taurus are bossy. I don't think that at all - to xangelfishx point, I think most of us will stand up and take charge of a situation and not just sit back if we see things are going horribly awry, or others aren't stepping up.

I am very much in agreement with a lot of what has already been said. I have NO desire to control people or relationships, I simply know what I want, state it, and act accordingly. I wont stay in a situation where I cant get what I have asked and I dont have the time to try to maniupulate someone else into giving it to me. Im a strong believer in living according to one's own will. I love sharing sharing opinions with others and I love to hear theirs, but I'd rather it be, like angel said, backed up by plently of info and logical conclusion. If by chance my opinion and someone else's opinion have to coexist Im very willing to listen to have they have to say given they're give me the same courtesy so that we can reach an accepable compromise. As long as the person reaches their opinion by logical conclusion and respects my right to have an opinion Ill respect them, "live and let live".


Now about the "weak" men...with me weak just means lacking ones own conviction or the strength to stand behind it. Validating someone elses opinions does not mean devaluing your own or even agreeing. I can appreciate people more who have their own opinion and are comfortable with me having my own. Weak to me is also a man who uses no sensibility in honoring requests. Its silly but I'll ask a man to give me something or do something that isnt at all sensible, if he does it instead of telling me "no that makes no sense" then I cant deal with him because I then feel that I cannot count on him to keep me sensible in the event that I go off the deep end, which we all do at times. Even if your Taurus seems stubborn, we KNOW when we are wrong and we'll respect you if you have the smarts to tell us although we wont admit it out loud. Now some people in general refuse to back down and admit theyre wrong but I dont suggest dealing with these immature types in the first place.

And Bella I completely feel you with the Scorp man wanting to be in control but having no self control. Been there and done that.

I use to have taurus female friend....we fell out...she never called me but she always ask friends how was I. Anyway I decided to break the ice and give her a call. She totally hung up on me.

I will never call her again. We werent friends that long anyway. But to hold a grudge that long. Its just not worth it.

Like many others have said, I don't like to be in control but if the situations calls for it, you bet I will be. I can be bossy (Aries moon, Leo rising) but it's because I'm a leader at heart, and I'm very smart, people come to me for advice alot. I let people do what they want but if I feel they are doing something detrimental to themselves or to someone else, I have no problem telling them so. However, I will NEVER force someone to do something.. that is not my place. Unless it's something they are doing to me personally, it is not my business. I am very opinionated but I will never force my beliefs or advice on someone.

And btw, I LOVE Aries people. They are exciting, HONEST, and they keep it real. Very much like my Aries moon. Not many can handle my bluntness, or should I say, our bluntness, although I'm usually sweet about it 😛

I love you taurus people too. You can be a great inspiration. I have 2 taurus girlfriends that I really look up to. Very classy and outspoken.

the guy Ive s a taurus/taurus mars and keeps saying He likes that I put my foot down. something about liking his food with flavor...That having been said I think I have to stop stamping and learnt to be a bit more smooth about it...its the scorp in me! Simmer simmer sting lol not cute in the long run...even for me.

The taurus I know dosent seem to try and control anything...he also dosent show any signs of jelousy or posessiveness in the slightest...then again its only been 2 months