Sado-masochism

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There's a range and layers. There's a big difference between someone who is and enjoys dominating someone and someone thinking it's a game. It still needs to be mutually beneficial for the parties involved, otherwise it's just a mental health issue or unresolved mommy/daddy issues disguising as BDSM.


For me, it’s something new and uncharted territory. I think of it as a fun game 😅
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Aries is into this. He told me that in his previous relationships, his girlfriends needed a permission to leave the house and similar.

And he said he likes to show women “their place”. I imagine that place is somewhere beneath him.

That's some sort of dominance related to a slave role, not sadism or masochism as such. If you are genuinely interested in knowing more The Loving Dominant and Screw The Roses Send Me The Thorns are great books. Also as anyone in the kink community will tell you there's more fake doms than anything else. I've met a few in my time.

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Oh my! What’s a fake dom? 😱
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There's a range and layers. There's a big difference between someone who is and enjoys dominating someone and someone thinking it's a game. It still needs to be mutually beneficial for the parties involved, otherwise it's just a mental health issue or unresolved mommy/daddy issues disguising as BDSM.

For me, it’s something new and uncharted territory. I think of it as a fun game 😅
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I'd be careful with that, because some really take it to an extreme.

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I’d avoid it like the plague …
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Alex, what is slave role? What is sado masochism in a nutshell?

Simplified: Slave role is someone who has a Master (not a Dom although a Master is a Dom type) who controls (consensually) most of their time together from ordering in a restaurant through to "making" the slave clean his/her shoes or ordering him/her to give sexual pleasure. The films you see of people all in leather leading someone around on a collar is probably closest.


Masochism - deriving pleasure from receiving pain - receiving a spanking, whipping, or more extreme like piercing with pins. From the author of Venus In Furs Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.


Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books.

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Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books

That isn’t healthy behaviour …
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Oh God, I shouldn’t laugh. But a lot of this sounds funny as fuck hahahha 😀

Right! When someone told me he would like order a lady to go on her knees and eat a cake from a plate I just laughed at him. He was a hardcore dom😂
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I suggested he gets with 2 women. One isn’t enough. But he doesn’t like that, lol.

Aries sun. Scorpio ascendant.
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There's a range and layers. There's a big difference between someone who is and enjoys dominating someone and someone thinking it's a game. It still needs to be mutually beneficial for the parties involved, otherwise it's just a mental health issue or unresolved mommy/daddy issues disguising as BDSM.

For me, it’s something new and uncharted territory. I think of it as a fun game 😅
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I think you will end up domineering him instead. 😂
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Hm this reminds me if my Aries friend. She had Scorp bf who would ORDER her to show up in 10 minutes and she would RUN. He forbid her to drive in car with MY bf 🙄 instead she has to take a bus, despite the fact we're going in same direction. He bosses her around and she accepted it all...guess some people are into that stuff for whatever reason. I would look into Nessus position of that guy to see what his issues is but tbh whoever even talks about it I wound't bother sticking around them


That sounds more like an abusive relationship.
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He says he likes smeared mascara and tears.

Lol, wtf?!?

What kind? RevloN?
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Lol. I dunno. He says it’s a turn on when makeup is ruined and hair is messy.



I think most men like that.
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I don’t know how to handle this one Alex. Too intense & uncharted territory.
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Hm this reminds me if my Aries friend. She had Scorp bf who would ORDER her to show up in 10 minutes and she would RUN. He forbid her to drive in car with MY bf 🙄 instead she has to take a bus, despite the fact we're going in same direction. He bosses her around and she accepted it all...guess some people are into that stuff for whatever reason. I would look into Nessus position of that guy to see what his issues is but tbh whoever even talks about it I wound't bother sticking around them


That sounds more like an abusive relationship.

He was domineering. He never hurt her ofc or did any harm, he just wanted ro dominate her in that imo sick way. To simply make her obey
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But the question is does she enjoys it?
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There's a range and layers. There's a big difference between someone who is and enjoys dominating someone and someone thinking it's a game. It still needs to be mutually beneficial for the parties involved, otherwise it's just a mental health issue or unresolved mommy/daddy issues disguising as BDSM.
For me, it’s something new and uncharted territory. I think of it as a fun game 😅
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I think you will end up domineering him instead. 😂

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I am trying my friend. I am trying 😛

He asked me “hey how come we don’t follow each other” and I said “oh there was a glitch”, and instead what happened was that I blocked him and unblocked him, lol! 😂

Then I suggested some of my hot friends. I think he is getting slightly irritated, but we both play it cool 😉 😉

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Alex, what is slave role? What is sado masochism in a nutshell?

Simplified: Slave role is someone who has a Master (not a Dom although a Master is a Dom type) who controls (consensually) most of their time together from ordering in a restaurant through to "making" the slave clean his/her shoes or ordering him/her to give sexual pleasure. The films you see of people all in leather leading someone around on a collar is probably closest.


Masochism - deriving pleasure from receiving pain - receiving a spanking, whipping, or more extreme like piercing with pins. From the author of Venus In Furs Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.


Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books.


Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books


That isn’t healthy behaviour …


De Sade or Alphonse had a narrow urethra so he needed a lot of stimulation to be able to ejaculate according to one biography I read. Healthy or unhealthy his legacy is more influential than say Kit Marlowe on both pop culture and life style .

I fail to see the issue if it is mutually consensual, legal and not bat shit crazy.
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I’m interested in the psychology behind it as I think bored maybe too?
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There's a range and layers. There's a big difference between someone who is and enjoys dominating someone and someone thinking it's a game. It still needs to be mutually beneficial for the parties involved, otherwise it's just a mental health issue or unresolved mommy/daddy issues disguising as BDSM.

For me, it’s something new and uncharted territory. I think of it as a fun game 😅
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Wow I can’t believe your considering

He’s basically telling you he’ll abuse you under the guise of bdsm.
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What’s it about?


Do these people have psychological issues like control? I don’t understand what does that have to do with human sexuality, but apparently a lot.


90% of murderers are into that type of sex. Though I can think of a few subs that would get off to obliterating, or humiliating another human.

So it's all up in the air imo. He might fully understand it's purely just sexual, and doesn't want to truly hurt you permanently. Maybe he just wants to get off while throwing you around a bit. Like a fun little game. On the other hand, maybe eventually he will want to fully dive into his dark controlling fantasies, and turn you into a literal lifeless rag doll. That's the fun of humans. You never know what exactly you will get. Maybe pleasure, maybe buried In multiple shallow ditches. You always seemed like the type to like those type of men, so maybe he is perfect for you.
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The Scorp ex was into this. I read the Roses/Thorns book that @alexscaries mentioned. Which is a decent read about what it’s about. But I was kinda like you @borednbeautiful like yeah, play along and check it out. I was bored by it. Very theatrical and just not my thing. He was ALL about it and that’s why he cheated because he needed his fix.

I do get that. It's a lot of work. With vanilla sex no matter how attractive the woman is or how good the sex is it feels like something is missing if it is the same thing over again.

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Don’t insult me! 🤣 Geminisex is never “the same thing over again”. 😘
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I wonder how many men who practice sadism have deep routed issues with their mothers and are acting out their hang ups on women?


Do you consider people to be 'less than' if you perceive them to have mental health issues?
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Not at all. The human psyche can be fragile and mental health issues can hit anyone … it can just be a part of the human condition.

I think the problem lies with the possibility of those issues being projected onto others which can happen when the person doesn’t seek help.
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Alex, what is slave role? What is sado masochism in a nutshell?

Simplified: Slave role is someone who has a Master (not a Dom although a Master is a Dom type) who controls (consensually) most of their time together from ordering in a restaurant through to "making" the slave clean his/her shoes or ordering him/her to give sexual pleasure. The films you see of people all in leather leading someone around on a collar is probably closest.

Masochism - deriving pleasure from receiving pain - receiving a spanking, whipping, or more extreme like piercing with pins. From the author of Venus In Furs Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.

Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books.

Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books



That isn’t healthy behaviour …


De Sade or Alphonse had a narrow urethra so he needed a lot of stimulation to be able to ejaculate according to one biography I read. Healthy or unhealthy his legacy is more influential than say Kit Marlowe on both pop culture and life style .


I fail to see the issue if it is mutually consensual, legal and not bat shit crazy.
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I’m interested in the psychology behind it as I think bored maybe too?


It's physically impossible to ask everyone why they enjoy BDSM. Some might do it to make sense of abuse they have suffered and some may just enjoy it and find it exciting.
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I’m interested in the smoke screen effect and fascinated by human behaviour that’s why I

asked so ….
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I was seeing a guy who had mother issues…she was a control freak. She still used to choose his clothes for him when he was in his 20s….and dress him like an old man😬. She was all kinds of weird.

He tried the sexual domination thing on me and I told him there’s a difference between intense passion and trying to strangle someone. He soon copped on.

Just like kids …. Acting out. There has to be a firm boundary line. I’ve met plenty of women who wanted to “please” their man but ended up not pleasing themselves and getting hurt.

If you want to be inflicted with pain go ahead but if not, be careful

As Sag said the Nessus dynamic is interesting and worth checking out…
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I wonder how many men who practice sadism have deep routed issues with their mothers and are acting out their hang ups on women?



Do you consider people to be 'less than' if you perceive them to have mental health issues?

Not at all. The human psyche can be fragile and mental health issues can hit anyone … it can just be a part of the human condition.
I think the problem lies with the possibility of those issues being projected onto others which can happen when the person doesn’t seek help.
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They're just having a bit of consensual spanking, maybe some choking.
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Alex, what is slave role? What is sado masochism in a nutshell?

Simplified: Slave role is someone who has a Master (not a Dom although a Master is a Dom type) who controls (consensually) most of their time together from ordering in a restaurant through to "making" the slave clean his/her shoes or ordering him/her to give sexual pleasure. The films you see of people all in leather leading someone around on a collar is probably closest.

Masochism - deriving pleasure from receiving pain - receiving a spanking, whipping, or more extreme like piercing with pins. From the author of Venus In Furs Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.

Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books.

Sadism - deriving pleasure from giving pain. The person doing the "punishment", "torture" etc. From Marquis De Sade author of many books



That isn’t healthy behaviour …


De Sade or Alphonse had a narrow urethra so he needed a lot of stimulation to be able to ejaculate according to one biography I read. Healthy or unhealthy his legacy is more influential than say Kit Marlowe on both pop culture and life style .


I fail to see the issue if it is mutually consensual, legal and not bat shit crazy.
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I’m interested in the psychology behind it as I think bored maybe too?


It's physically impossible to ask everyone why they enjoy BDSM. Some might do it to make sense of abuse they have suffered and some may just enjoy it and find it exciting.


I’m interested in the smoke screen effect and fascinated by human behaviour that’s why I

asked so ….


Impossible to answer. I think some people just enjoy it on a surface level. You could mention the psychology of horror films: some people find them funny, some want to be scared, some find it therapeutic and cathartic that they are safe.

Not everyone who does BDSM is abused or damaged; maybe they just find it fun.
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Some like fun fair’s 🎡

And some like being strangled

Whatever floats your boat …