Are Virgos liars/Is it over?

Sooo some of you may know I've been involved with a Virgo guy in LDR situation since October last year. It's been rather rocky journey and although we had some super sweet moments I'm starting to wonder if it's over for him already. Mind you, we are not in a commited relationship, but we're not platonic friends either. Since the end of May he's been acting bit more strange than I'm used to. I'm used to him taking his space for few days, but coming back apologizing and talking at least once a week since we've started talking...

Well at the end of May he complained to me that he's all over the place that he doesn't have many friends in the city where he lives (he moved quite far away from his home country) and that he's trying to keep busy. I tried to comfort him as much as I could and everything seemed fine. Well I actually wondered for some time if he's seeing someone in his city, but didn't ask him untill next week after he complained to me about not having many friends where he lives. He denied it saying that he's not seeing anybody, but that he's been feeling really sad lately and that he's keeping to himself while he's trying to figure it out. I tried to ask him why he's feeling sad and what happened.. I added that I understand if he doesn't wanna talk about it that it's okay, but that I care about him and that I'm always there for him and I left it at that. I haven't got any reply and it's been over two weeks today... This is the longest he ever took to reply to me so obviously I'm worried, but at the same time I don't wanna push him by saying something I'd regret later... also he keeps liking everything I post and stalks my stories. However I saw him post yesterday on his instagram stories how he's having fun with some random group of people (mostly girls) that I've never seen before and I just don't know what to think about that...

It took me by surprise and to be honest I was bit hurt by it. I don't wanna say he's a liar, but there is obviously something going on with him and I'm worried. I've never had any doubt he likes me, although it wasn't always easy and we had our ups and downs. We had few arguments, but always worked it out in the end. He confided in me few times about things I know he wouldn't tell just anyone. And I know that deep down he cares about me. I don't have doubt about that... But him acting like that it's not normal and I don't know how to deal with it. I decided to keep my distance and not contact him unless he does so, but I don't wanna just over look it like nothing happened I want him to know that I felt disrespected and hurt by his actions and that I'd like an explanation why he did what he did. If he doesn't come back well then there is nothing I can do about it I'll just move on... I feel like he knows he's done something wrong and might be ashamed. What am I supposed to do?

Please only honest responds from people who really want to help! I'm not interested in insults. Thank you!

Posted by ufo
perhaps he hasn't been honest with you and feels you deserve better than what he is putting out or has to offer but then again nothing is set in stone so he might feel that he doesn't owe you an explanation

i think you should just keep living your life and if he reaches out great, if not just move on

Yeah that crossed my mind as well... Although I gave him way out before already and he didn't take it so I don't really understand him.

Yeah that's basically what I'm planning on doing, thank you for your insight! : )

Posted by -sierra
maybe he doesn't know how to tell you that he wants to see other people.. like he kinda just wants you to get the hint

it's not such a decent thing to do.. but some people are like that

i'd move on from that situation

Maybe that's the truth, anything is possible. He never mentioned any girls though and if he did he always reffered to them as his friends. The only person he ever mentioned being interested in was me no one else. He could be lying about being sad and all over the place instead of saying that he's seeing other people. But that doesn't make much of a sense if you ask me, I don't think guys play games like that and if he was seeing someone and I asked him about it I think he'd tell me the truth. I just wanted to make sure. I think unless I have any real proof he made it up I can't accuse him of lying. I'll wait and see, if he doesn't contact me again, fine I'll move on if he does I'll see what he says and how he's gonna act. Thank you! : )

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maybe he doesn't know how to tell you that he wants to see other people.. like he kinda just wants you to get the hint

it's not such a decent thing to do.. but some people are like that

i'd move on from that situation

Maybe that's the truth, anything is possible. He never mentioned any girls though and if he did he always reffered to them as his friends. The only person he ever mentioned being interested in was me no one else. He could be lying about being sad and all over the place instead of saying that he's seeing other people. But that doesn't make much of a sense if you ask me, I don't think guys play games like that and if he was seeing someone and I asked him about it I think he'd tell me the truth. I just wanted to make sure. I think unless I have any real proof he made it up I can't accuse him of lying. I'll wait and see, if he doesn't contact me again, fine I'll move on if he does I'll see what he says and how he's gonna act. Thank you! : )

but did you try to reach out at all in those 2 weeks? call or message? did you seem as if you're not interested? or maybe you had a little disagreement before he disappeared for 2 weeks?

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No I thought he wanted space so I gave it to him... I mean I thought what I wrote gave him enough chance to reach out to me if he wanted to... I don't know. Yes I liked his posts even commented, but haven't actually messaged him except the initial message. I don't wanna seem like a pushover or needy. The last time we had a disagreement was in the beginning of May and that was settled already. Do you think that I should try reach out to him?

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Hmm interesting... I thought saying that I care about him and that I'm here for him always would prove otherwise : D Do Virgos really need reassurance like that? I could try reaching out asking how he was doing and if he was still ignoring me by then well I have my answer then... But then again if I do that I'll never know if he cares enough to reach out to me himself. Well I guess that's just a stupid power game. Yes he has Capricorn moon, Leo mercury, Cancer venus, Leo mars, Aquarius jupiter, Scorpio saturn, Sagittarius uranus, Capricorn neptune and Scorpio pluto.

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@-sierra for some reason my message didn't load properly so here it is
Hmm interesting... I thought saying that I care about him and that I'm here for him always would prove otherwise : D Do Virgos really need reassurance like that? I could try reaching out asking how he was doing and if he was still ignoring me by then well I have my answer then... But then again if I do that I'll never know if he cares enough to reach out to me himself. Well I guess that's just a stupid power game. Yes he has Capricorn moon, Leo mercury, Cancer venus, Leo mars, Aquarius jupiter, Scorpio saturn, Sagittarius uranus, Capricorn neptune and Scorpio pluto.

sounds like placements that need attention..

maybe shouldv'e at least reached out once a week or maybe text him at least once a day or try to call every 3 days just to ask how he's doing..

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So do you think I shoud do it just now? I know I've got nothing to lose, but I don't wanna seem like an idiot...

If he told you he wanted to see other people, would you:

1. Believe him

2. Accept it

Posted by DMV
If he told you he wanted to see other people, would you:

1. Believe him
2. Accept it

Yes, I'd believe him and tell him that I accept it, but I'd probably tell him that I can't talk to him anymore because it'd be too hard to just stay friends with him after everything that happened. That's not the case though : D

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@-sierra for some reason my message didn't load properly so here it is
Hmm interesting... I thought saying that I care about him and that I'm here for him always would prove otherwise : D Do Virgos really need reassurance like that? I could try reaching out asking how he was doing and if he was still ignoring me by then well I have my answer then... But then again if I do that I'll never know if he cares enough to reach out to me himself. Well I guess that's just a stupid power game. Yes he has Capricorn moon, Leo mercury, Cancer venus, Leo mars, Aquarius jupiter, Scorpio saturn, Sagittarius uranus, Capricorn neptune and Scorpio pluto.

sounds like placements that need attention..

maybe shouldv'e at least reached out once a week or maybe text him at least once a day or try to call every 3 days just to ask how he's doing..

So do you think I shoud do it just now? I know I've got nothing to lose, but I don't wanna seem like an idiot...

well yeah... why haven't you tried?

conventionally, society seems to always expect that men should initiate things.. like you waited for him to reach out to you first but emotionally, he probably needs you more.. reaching out now won't make you an idiot... not reaching out sooner was the problem...

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Ahh yeah I just though that's what he wanted and didn't realize he might be waiting for me to reach out instead... Yes I think that's the main reason I was holding back, also I was kinda angry with him that he just ignored me like that.. : / Thank you for your kind words! I will try it and let you know how it went : D

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@-sierra for some reason my message didn't load properly so here it is
Hmm interesting... I thought saying that I care about him and that I'm here for him always would prove otherwise : D Do Virgos really need reassurance like that? I could try reaching out asking how he was doing and if he was still ignoring me by then well I have my answer then... But then again if I do that I'll never know if he cares enough to reach out to me himself. Well I guess that's just a stupid power game. Yes he has Capricorn moon, Leo mercury, Cancer venus, Leo mars, Aquarius jupiter, Scorpio saturn, Sagittarius uranus, Capricorn neptune and Scorpio pluto.

sounds like placements that need attention..

maybe shouldv'e at least reached out once a week or maybe text him at least once a day or try to call every 3 days just to ask how he's doing..

So do you think I shoud do it just now? I know I've got nothing to lose, but I don't wanna seem like an idiot...

well yeah... why haven't you tried?

conventionally, society seems to always expect that men should initiate things.. like you waited for him to reach out to you first but emotionally, he probably needs you more.. reaching out now won't make you an idiot... not reaching out sooner was the problem...

Ahh yeah I just though that's what he wanted and didn't realize he might be waiting for me to reach out instead... Yes I think that's the main reason I was holding back, also I was kinda angry with him that he just ignored me like that.. : / Thank you for your kind words! I will try it and let you know how it went : D

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He replied saying he's okay and asked me how I'm doing... Well it's a bit austere at least he replied : D

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@-sierra for some reason my message didn't load properly so here it is
Hmm interesting... I thought saying that I care about him and that I'm here for him always would prove otherwise : D Do Virgos really need reassurance like that? I could try reaching out asking how he was doing and if he was still ignoring me by then well I have my answer then... But then again if I do that I'll never know if he cares enough to reach out to me himself. Well I guess that's just a stupid power game. Yes he has Capricorn moon, Leo mercury, Cancer venus, Leo mars, Aquarius jupiter, Scorpio saturn, Sagittarius uranus, Capricorn neptune and Scorpio pluto.

sounds like placements that need attention..

maybe shouldv'e at least reached out once a week or maybe text him at least once a day or try to call every 3 days just to ask how he's doing..

So do you think I shoud do it just now? I know I've got nothing to lose, but I don't wanna seem like an idiot...

well yeah... why haven't you tried?

conventionally, society seems to always expect that men should initiate things.. like you waited for him to reach out to you first but emotionally, he probably needs you more.. reaching out now won't make you an idiot... not reaching out sooner was the problem...

Ahh yeah I just though that's what he wanted and didn't realize he might be waiting for me to reach out instead... Yes I think that's the main reason I was holding back, also I was kinda angry with him that he just ignored me like that.. : / Thank you for your kind words! I will try it and let you know how it went : D

He replied saying he's okay and asked me how I'm doing... Well it's a bit austere at least he replied : D

see? if you'd done this earlier, you won't be paranoid about girls he's hanging out with.. i couldn't have handled not contacting my dude for 2 weeks... that's crazy

people are ao afraid to be vulnerable especially nowadays.. anyway, hope things go well

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Ahaha you're completely right! : D I'm somehow surprised I could handle it. We talked a loot afterwards like we haven't in a long time so I'm glad I did reach out he seems very happy I did. : ) Thank you so much!

You're right about the vulnerable part it's really hard those days and I think that's what men really want from women being able to be vulnerable... Sometimes it's very hard, but it's still worth it. : ) There can't be no real depth without vulnerability.

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
Yep, liars.

Are you mocking me? Or is this just your experience?

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Yep, liars.

Are you mocking me? Or is this just your experience?

No, no. I do joke around a bit these days on DXP but I’m serious. If they think they will get away with it or they don’t respect you they will lie.

Had a Virgo lie to my face about something I knew was true.

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Oh : D I guess that depends on the whole chart : ) I think you need to consider other placements like moon and ascendant to be able to determine whether that person is capable of lying or not. I think Virgo as the sign alone is not a liar. I think any Earth sign has problems with lying as long as they don't have moon or ascendant that would make them prone to lying. I certainly as Capricorn am not able to lie to anybody not even in the stupidiest things : D

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Yep, liars.

Are you mocking me? Or is this just your experience?

No, no. I do joke around a bit these days on DXP but I’m serious. If they think they will get away with it or they don’t respect you they will lie.

Had a Virgo lie to my face about something I knew was true.

Oh : D I guess that depends on the whole chart : ) I think you need to consider other placements like moon and ascendant to be able to determine whether that person is capable of lying or not. I think Virgo as the sign alone is not a liar. I think any Earth sign has problems with lying as long as they don't have moon or ascendant that would make them prone to lying. I certainly as Capricorn am not able to lie to anybody not even in the stupidiest things : D

Not even a ‘white lie’ to spare someone’s feelings? Like a female friend asks if you like their outfit?

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Nope seriously : D and then if I don't like it they give me a look like "what did you just say?" it's kinda hilarious : D But I tell it in a kind way so it's not offending something like "it's not my style , but if you like it go ahead" : D

I don't know what to do either as I worry that I'll push my virgo away. Like most virgos my Virgo guy works 24/7 between 3jobs.  He has a lot on his plate and in a previous text I could tell that he is overwhelmed with his schedule and personal things.  He explained that "Just need a little space"  I was going to respond but made the choice not to as I didn't want him to think I was trying to engage in convo and that I wanted to respect his request.  I didn't hear from him but messaged hi  the day before his daughter's wedding letting him know I was thinking of him, his daughter and the family as this was going to be another difficult hurdle without his late wife.

 He replied "thank you and sorry weekends all about *% $   Wanna be the best Dad I can be for her so all my attentions are about her" 

I replied  "oh, no need to apologize of course this weekend is all about her, as it should be!  Honestly, I never thought or expected otherwise."

It's now been 12days I haven't text him nor have I heard from him.  I know and respect that he has asked for space but is it ok to text letting him know I am thinking of him or do I just wait to hear from him?

Posted by Nancym
I don't know what to do either as I worry that I'll push my virgo away. Like most virgos my Virgo guy works 24/7 between 3jobs.  He has a lot on his plate and in a previous text I could tell that he is overwhelmed with his schedule and personal things.  He explained that "Just need a little space"  I was going to respond but made the choice not to as I didn't want him to think I was trying to engage in convo and that I wanted to respect his request.  I didn't hear from him but messaged hi  the day before his daughter's wedding letting him know I was thinking of him, his daughter and the family as this was going to be another difficult hurdle without his late wife.

 He replied "thank you and sorry weekends all about *% $   Wanna be the best Dad I can be for her so all my attentions are about her" 

I replied  "oh, no need to apologize of course this weekend is all about her, as it should be!  Honestly, I never thought or expected otherwise."

It's now been 12days I haven't text him nor have I heard from him.  I know and respect that he has asked for space but is it ok to text letting him know I am thinking of him or do I just wait to hear from him?

I would try to reach out to him. : ) The worst thing that could happen that he'll ignore you some more and well then you'd know it's not worth your time. Things are great again between me and my Virgo guy, we text every day and it's fun so I hope it lasts : D he's kinda moody and I'm used to it. Also I'm probably rare with this, but I'm not fond of constant texting so it's more than enough if we text few times a day and not every 5 minutes. And if he doesn't text me few days it's fine as well. Of course over 2 weeks is too much. My girlfriends don't get it, they need the constant texting. I don't know why women meassure quality of their relationships by the amount of exchanged texts. Men just don't think like that and for them it's much more important how you make them feel when they're actually with you. : ) Don't stress about it and just text him. Believe me I wish I'd done it sooner! And now I know he's happy when we talk. ; )

I would suggest you gain courage and say something like. "Hey I've seen your photos lately and I'm super excited for you to finally found people you enjoy being with. If you feel like we should let each other go, I would rather know that, so I move on with my life as well" . That's something I would say to someone in that kind of situation, asking around doesn't really help, only he knows what's going on, so go ahead and ask him. But be prepared for him to confirm your worst fears . I'm sorry

Posted by pisceanloves
I would suggest you gain courage and say something like. "Hey I've seen your photos lately and I'm super excited for you to finally found people you enjoy being with. If you feel like we should let each other go, I would rather know that, so I move on with my life as well" . That's something I would say to someone in that kind of situation, asking around doesn't really help, only he knows what's going on, so go ahead and ask him. But be prepared for him to confirm your worst fears . I'm sorry

Thanks, but it's been resolved already and everything is fine : )

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Posted by Nancym
I don't know what to do either as I worry that I'll push my virgo away. Like most virgos my Virgo guy works 24/7 between 3jobs.  He has a lot on his plate and in a previous text I could tell that he is overwhelmed with his schedule and personal things.  He explained that "Just need a little space"  I was going to respond but made the choice not to as I didn't want him to think I was trying to engage in convo and that I wanted to respect his request.  I didn't hear from him but messaged hi  the day before his daughter's wedding letting him know I was thinking of him, his daughter and the family as this was going to be another difficult hurdle without his late wife.

 He replied "thank you and sorry weekends all about *% $   Wanna be the best Dad I can be for her so all my attentions are about her" 

I replied  "oh, no need to apologize of course this weekend is all about her, as it should be!  Honestly, I never thought or expected otherwise."

It's now been 12days I haven't text him nor have I heard from him.  I know and respect that he has asked for space but is it ok to text letting him know I am thinking of him or do I just wait to hear from him?

I would try to reach out to him. : ) The worst thing that could happen that he'll ignore you some more and well then you'd know it's not worth your time. Things are great again between me and my Virgo guy, we text every day and it's fun so I hope it lasts : D he's kinda moody and I'm used to it. Also I'm probably rare with this, but I'm not fond of constant texting so it's more than enough if we text few times a day and not every 5 minutes. And if he doesn't text me few days it's fine as well. Of course over 2 weeks is too much. My girlfriends don't get it, they need the constant texting. I don't know why women meassure quality of their relationships by the amount of exchanged texts. Men just don't think like that and for them it's much more important how you make them feel when they're actually with you. : ) Don't stress about it and just text him. Believe me I wish I'd done it sooner! And now I know he's happy when we talk. ; )

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Oh, I am so happy for you and happy that you were able to work things out. 🤗  I am a weird one too in that I don't need, want to text every five minutes nor do I expect a guy to jump immediately on my text and reply back.  I do realize he has a life and works crazy hours.  I was only concern when he didn't reply after 2 days because he told me he was going to the Dr. regarding a health issue.  My girlfriends don't understand either but they are younger then me and my virgo has explained that he isn't too much into texting (he is five yrs old then me...didn't generation)  I did take your advise and sent him a text.  He has yet to reply but I am not going to overthink. 

virgo really are liars lol

Posted by halalbae

Virgo men only lie when they dont feel like having you in their business

So exactly how does that work?

I don't think they really lie. A lot of them are passive people.