Blame his star sign: why men do the weird things t

Have any of you read this article? It's really quite entertaining. By the way, this is just for entertainment purposes only!

A Virgo man will be home in time for dinner, help you balance the cheque book, and help raise the children. Whether he's as sexy as Sean Connery, or as silly as Peter Sellers, he will always be by your side. He's conscientious, capable, thrifty, kind, and loyal. Sounds like a real boy scout, doesn't he? Well, he is - the bargain basement version.

Life with a male Virgoan is like being pushed into traffic when you don't want to cross the street. Born with a superior attitude and an eye for improving everything except his own conduct, he is as relentless with his fault-finding as a pit bull locked onto a mailman's leg, and just as unsympathetic.

At his worst, he's a classic chauvinist, dismissing what he doesn't believe and believing only what's convenient to his point of view. His one talent for conversation is a non-stop string of criticisms about every facet of your existence, from the way you wear your hair to your coupon-clipping ability. And he won't hesitate to insult your intelligence by demonstrating just how to accomplish either task.

At his best, he has the kind of predictability that will give you sleeping sickness. He'll expect dinner promptly at six, where you will exchange news of the day's events. Then he'll spend an hour with the children, who will go to bed exactly at eight. Next comes an hour of telling you how to improve your housekeeping abilities. Finally, he'll retire to his home office where he'll spend the rest of the evening mumbling over the bills or developing a plan for your self-improvement.

His character is purely idiosyncratic. Every Virgo has his own peculiar thought process and just as peculiar a speech pattern. Many self-made Virgo millionaires are unable to utter a sensible statement.

Throughout his career, legendary Hollywood producer Virgo Samuel Goldwyn adamantly refused to compromise his search for the finest talent, directors, screenwriters, and technical crews. You can't argue with perfection, and The Goldwyn Touch set a standard of excellence that has been seldom, if ever, matched. Sam also had an unmatched Virgo talent for trying to act superior and coming off as a total goofball.

When his secretary asked for permission to destroy files that were more than 10 years old, Goldwyn said, 'Yes, but keep copies'. He's also credited with such gems as, 'Give me a couple of years, and I'll make that actress an overnight success,' 'If I look confused, it's because I'm thinking,' and 'True. I've been a long time making up my mind, but now I'm giving you a definite answer maybe.'

Argue with yours, and he'll stare at you as if you've just lost your mind, for he can't believe you dared to disagree. Then he will repeat, word by word, the conversation, question, or disagreement that led you to throw the toaster at his head. Soon, you will feel as if ants were crawling through your brain and will apologise just to shut him up.

You can take comfort in the knowledge that if you are determined to force his hand, you can send him to bed with a tummy ache. The fact that he's pretending to be ill, and he knows you know it, makes no difference. A male Virgo will feign anything from a headache to a heart attack if he feels cornered. He's as loathe to confront a situation as is his opposite, Pisces, but where Pisces fears confrontation itself, Virgo fears facing any unpleasantries about himself. Of course, he will expect you to rush to his side with chicken soup and spoon-feed him. If he can't control you with his superiority, he'll try to by appearing helpless.

If you want romance and love songs, choose any other sign (except Capricorn), because you won't find it with this man. Serve him dinner by candlelight and he'll complain he can't see what he's eating. He'll talk a lot about sex and isn't ab

LOL 😉

My god, looney................that's the bestest ever yet description of a Mr. Virgo - and that's on a good day.....well done, you continue to come up with the bestest sites for us all to read.....

Gosh Alana That info has been posted by siezeTheDay. Thanx for the compliment. LOL

MY..My??

Watery creatures all over the place again with their WISDOM? why am I not surprised..??

Tell you the truth? you get what you deserve?
And hi Alana.. good to see you around.

But I'm a fire sign 😢. LOL, anyway, it's just an article-- and maybe we all deserve a bad experience in dating-- helps us truly appreciate the good experiences. At least identify what we don't like in a partner.

-sTD o_O;

Listen lady? who ever you are?

In relationship those who seek to PLEASE their partner are PLAIN LAME AND STUPID, no body have to PLEASE anyone unless you both performing and staging e.g. LIES and dishonesty behind it, relationship is more than that IF YOU WISE ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT OUT.
If not.. well hell that?s your own damn "personal" experience?. You want to share it?.GRANTED, then mark it as "your own damn personal experience".

SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SOME?..is not credible enough.

The post you have made here shows perfectly (one way ticket), can you ask yourself?WHY YOUR PARTNER SHOULD PLEASE YOU..??.. WHO or better say WHAT THE HELL YOU THINK YOU ARE THAT SOMEONE SHOULD PLEASE YOU..??.

So? what is the nature of this kind of post..?? try to be funny..??.. hell.. I am not laughing!.
Or?.on the other hand, you want to make stupid remark and pointless debate out of this bulshi.ts..??

OK.. all Virgo creatures are stupid and lame? (do we agree..??) THEN WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT FROM US..?? HUH— What are you looking for..?? A boring date with your Monitor and keyboard..?? try to find something out of your dead hours before sleep..?? heh.

I can flood with all those stupid stuff (that you call it funny) in any sign in matter of minutes?what's the catch..??

Is this a meaning to be constructive..??

YOU TELL ME WITH YOUR WISDOM THEN?.!

And ah?.
I have a very dear friend (with wisdom) on Aries board? and I think it is cheap move and plain stupid to make this kind of REMARKS on the Aries board to attract the attention.

Find a better way to present your wisdom?

Qbone-

I apologize for having offended you.

It's not MY wisdom, the article was not written by me.
(there's even the originating link at the bottom)

Yes, it was supposed to be funny. -As it does say in the beginning, "for entertainment purposes only.."

No, this article does not reflect any of MY experiences with Virgo men. My most recent being mostly pleasant..and I showed him the article to and we both laughed (that's why I wanted to share).

Yes, I found a means for opening a topic for discussion-- just there are several opinions/jokes posted throughout this forum. But I did not intend want to boil the blood of members on a forum that I enjoy visiting.

I just wanted to share-- have some people laugh and comment.

-sTD o_O;

Me..?? huh? who the hell am I that you apologizing for..??

That post insulted all Virgos?not the "Qbone" I was just happen to be around to see this..

And again? IT WASN'T CONSTRUCTIVE.. AND CERTAINLY NOT FUNNY.

I apologized to you in order address your response.

You didn't think it was neither constructive nor funny-- you're certaintly entitled to your opinion-- as I am to mine.

There are many posts trashing one zodiac or another (posted on that zodiac's forum). Those posts are also not constructive --nor said with any intended humor (unlike mine). Also those people actually ARE serious (unlike me).

My point being-- after reading the posts on this site, I got the impression people were free to post what they like. My intention was humor-- you were insulted, and I'm sure you neither the first or last, however it wasn't my intention to insult you or anyone else. Such is life.

-sTD o_O;

Prallax?!!

This is the most beautiful and "complete" post I have ever seen for a long time from you..
Thanks man?

I do agree with every word of it?
Thanx again?

For you STD

Time to know that, it is not a zodiac or astrology stuff? its personal experience and personal life.
As I've said?. My best friend was Aries which left me alone with the misery? all Aries are like that..??..
I have 3 more Aries in my sleeves?. Shall I treat those with my ex-experience..??
Hell?. No way? people are different, hell? experiences are different? time to stop this "kids" stuff.
It's time to find ourselves male or females alike, it is the time to stand for what we are and what we want..!

Well.. I don't think women are angry with men, I just think gender roles, the family dynamic and the idea of dating/marriage have drastically changed from 30 years ago. Because of these changes women have become more vocal about their opinions. Not to mention, Dating has become more difficult because in the past-- the men did all the hard work-- and we women just sat back and enjoyed the ride.

40-30 years ago, a woman only aspired to get married, have children and spend her life taking care of her family. It was easy to only hope for that because generally when you met a man, the goal was to get married, not get laid. Ultimately, this strictly defined role of "homemaker" was fine, until men went off to war and women were forced to run single-parent households. Also, if you made it age 30 without getting married, you were considered a social lepor.

The "liberal" woman wanted to work, and have more freedom and power within her home. But, along with "liberation"-- I think a lot of side-effects came along with it. Women still have those same dreams of meeting a great guy, getting married and having kids.. but now they also have to take a more active roles in dating/marriage/workforce/raising children.

Oh and men did resist the change along the way.

Now-a-days, I noticed, women have to be just as aggressive searching for/dating a men. Men openly express their expectations about sex (sometimes on the first date), whereas, in earlier days, sex before marriage was almost unheard of. Guys don't have to marry a woman to get laid-- and once you get a certain age, the thought you're still a virgin is actually a turn-off. As a matter of fact, the incentive to get married is almost gone. If you get pregnant (and you're not married), the level of responsibility is not the same. The guy doesn't have marry you-- as a matter of fact, he can just disappear.

Women have new choices-- and so do men. It's just another big adjustment-- and we are all experience growing pains.

-sTD o_O;

STD
I am not going to bitc.h around for this topic anymore (sorry the language)? you are correct? opinion is opinion and should be presented (as long as it is genuine and personal) in the way that making a questions.. and not encouraging the hate.

You are free to do what you have do.. I got sensitive and respond it accordingly.

Qbone,

I agree with you totally. I don't think that one bad experience with one type of person should carry over to a new relationship with someone different.

People are as unique as their finger prints.

Others have read the article and have found humor... because ultimately, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at. I welcome anyone who wants paint me with the "Aries" brush of being stubborn-- stupidly arrogant, selfish, egotistical, brash, easily excitable (angered), and maybe even a little violent. But the people who take time to know me- will find my kinder/gentler qualities and see past the ARIES label. Those who don't-- well, they miss out... can't worry 'bout -em.

soooooooooo... lighten up-- it was a joke. I don't agree with everything in that article, but as I read it, I laughed. You didn't-- you've expressed that you didn't like it.. I have received and accepted your opinion on the matter.

Is that article my bible and I live by every word? no..

Do I hate all men because I've been burned a few times? definitely not..

Did I have a bad experience with a Virgo-- and posted that article to make all Virgos pay? absolutely not..

Sorry, I saw your other post after I've posted my earlier post. I really wasn't trying insight or encourage hate... but I will try to be more selective with material that I post. (c'mon I know you don't know me .. but big hugs and kisses to Qbone)
-sTD

Another "strike" post from parallax..
Man? you are changed?you scare me a lot?
But thanks for your point? as always? you are on the spot.
Thanx for your time man?

Ahhh Parallax.. Are You kidding? I LOVE men!!! (Just a few have pissed me off).

You're right, women did demand changes and sometimes without even knowing what they were asking for-- and at the risk of having some women slap me, I'll say some changes weren't even worth it.

What was being fought for was a choice. The choice to get married or not, to get a degree or not, to have kids or not, to own your own company or not.

What we got? Instead of actually choosing to work, you HAVE to, unless you find a man who's rich (and I mean rich). You HAVE to go to college if you want a decent job-- because guys are turned of by a girl who isn't self reliant (you know what I mean-- needy/clingy). Although, I can't imagine a woman who actually "wants" to be stupid. Not to mention, the societal pressure to get married and have children is still there. My mom is starting to give me dirty looks.

For some women-- this new role is great. You don't feel powerless, and you like the level of independence. But I think some women long for the days where every man felt a need to open a door for them. Where men made the first move, paid for every date, bashfully asked for a kiss-- and was happy with a little heavy petting. He wrote bad poetry and dreamed of the moment to marry you and give you children-- and take care of you all. But in today's world-- it's not really feasible to hope for that.. and those women are pissed-- not at other women.. but at MEN. They want their choices.. but their MEN to be the same (only softer)!

Not all women blame men or hate men. Some of us love our new roles-- and are ready to jump into the game. The problem is, it's confusing, and somewhat painful. Was it better when roles were clearly defined? Depends on who you ask. If you ask me, I'll say, "no".

-sTD

STD
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I could rant on about women in the work-force, but I'm sure you good gentlemen have heard us ladies "cry" about unfairness for years.

hi, wow. i couldnt read this stuff and not add my two cents.
if anybody gets the chance read (if havent already) "The Second Sex". its a wonderful book.
anyways, i think the comedian gallagher once said that women stood up for their rights in the 60's and in doing so lost their seats. they fought to gain the same rights that men had and lost some of the privlages of being a "lady".
though i personally believe the disgruntledness of women comes from two main sources:
1) pre-programmed information of what life should be like which is developed at a very early age. a blueprint of success and happiness that was written a long time ago. a system that is enforced by society, culture, family, religion and entertainment. these blueprints are passed on from generation to generation altering as time goes on, but staying basically the same. there is more to this but i dont really feel like typing that much right now.
2) desire. the above system holds hands with desire. and for some reason i have witnessed many women(not all) having very lofty desires based on the pre-programmed fantasy life style s that have been digested for many generations.
when reality becomes clear resentment grows. unfortunately its too difficult for people to accept their own fault so they take the easier route and blame another. ie, men. a parallel example is the one about the tobacco smokers that sue phillip morris for getting cancer, when any human with a brain knows that inhaling smoke is bad for you.
in the same sense, many(not all) women are fully aware of the pre-programmed blueprinting of desires and instead of dismantling it, they(not all) blame men for not meeting the specific requirements of those blueprints. furthermore, there is the fear that if the known blueprint is dismantled, there may be a chance that it was in haste and the woman has the chance of missing the bus(of course operated by prince charming) to "never never land". therefore many women hold onto hope. the hope that the idea IS real and holding on is NOT foolish, and there IS a possibility for living "happily ever after".
if this is the case(i could be totally wrong), then i wish that i as well as other men wouldnt have to take the flak for the wrongdoings of our forefathers and foremothers.
the only problem is that if you see it and work against it you fail. if you work with it, you fail.
dernd if ya do, dernd if ya dont....yeesh.
oh, and hiya doin qbone?

This might also be a good reason to be pissed at men...(sorry to add such depressing info).
**mind you the stats below are only the REPORTED crimes.
AMERICAN RAPE STATISTICS

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault. (NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)

Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of a rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)

The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.)

SILENT VICTIMS :

One of the most startling aspects of sex crimes is how many go unreported. The most common reasons given by women for not reporting these crimes are the belief that it is a private or personal matter and the fear of reprisal from the assailant.

Approximately 28% of victims are raped by husbands or boyfriends, 35% by acquaintances, and 5% by other relatives. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994)

The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.

In 1994-1995, only 251,560 rapes and sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement officials -- less than one in every three. (National Crime Victimization Survey, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)

An overwhelming majority of rape service agencies believe that public education about rape, and expanded counseling and advocacy services for rape victims, would be effective in increasing the willingness of victims to report rapes to the police. (Rape in America, 1992, National Victim Center with Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center.)

LIVING IN FEAR :

According to the U.S. Department of Justice: (All statistics are taken from: Violenceagainst Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)

One of every four rapes take place in a public area or in a parking garage.

31% of female victims reported that the offender was a stranger.

68% of rapes occur between the hours of 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.

At least 45% of rapists were under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

In 29% of rapes, the offender used a weapon.

In 47% of rapes, the victim sustained injuries other than rape injuries.

75% of female rape victims require medical care after the attack.

NOT JUST A FAMILY MATTER :

Family violence and abuse are among the most prevalent forms of interpersonal violence against women and young children -- both boys and girls. The sexual abuse of a child should never be "just a family matter," but many children are afraid to report an incident to the police because the abusers are too often a family friend or relative.

Approximately one-third of all juvenile victims of sexual abuse cases are children younger than 6 years of age. (Violence and the Family, Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family, 1996.)

According to the Justice Department, one in two rape victims are under age 18; one in six are under age 12. (Child Rape Victims, 1992. U.S. Department of Justice.)

FACE OF AMERICA :

About 81% of rape victims are white; 18% are black; 1% are of other races. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)

About half of all rape victims are in the lowest third of income distribution; half are in t

Hi y'all

I like the way this post has developed to something so meaningful. Keep it up all of you.

STD your acceptane that the ivillage virgo desription post was hurtful when Q asserted himslef... speaks of your good understanding & behaviour. I applaud that.

I had responded to your post with a winking smiley which just meant...cool it man on this stereo-type grouping that is being done ever since Linda Goodman's writings became the bestsellers! I do agree that her intention was to increase peoples understanding of each other. But hten while doing that for commercial purpose I guess she used certain typical words to describe certain sun sign behaviours... which began to be used as labels...very unfortunately...giving a license to label people's behaviour according to their signs..even though those behaviour are common to humanity in general.

Let us for example take certian signs tendency to keep their thoguhts/feelings to themselves & not opening up--as in cancer or virgo behaviour. Yes both the signs do have tendencies to keep things to themselves- quiet often. Then why label the cancer quietness as shells and virgo quietness as a period of solitary analysis? Does it mean that cancerians are not capable of practical analysis & virgos are not capable of working through emotions? I believe human beings in general have their practical moments and emotional ones. Whenever I am responding to people's behaviour/attitude in real life according to their age,health & circumstances I am being practical. Whereas my decisions may be emotional while dealing with my kids.

Now this is really funny. Just because I am a cancerian people tend to think that all my decisions are based on emotions, even when they are not. Okay many behaviour patterns do match. They are spot on. But they certianly wont define me in every given situation. I have evolved form many negativities as life has progressed.Before type-casting my behaviour as 'typically' or 'untypically' cancerian first look at my age, experiences and calibre.

And pray why is it such a crime to keep to oneself. I know it hurts people and I have hence become a very vocal person. But come to think of it nobody voices their true opinions or feelings all the time. They do hide a part of themselves from others. Reason? Anythign.. really. If one learns to accept people the way they are, they will come around and be receptive & ready to walk half the way to make the relationship work.If they dont, the relationship was not meant to be.

how receptive people are to others behaviour which doesn't get their stamp of approval? They come here for advice..they get it... they return back spilling how it all failed..and hence that perosn is an a*sh*le. Just because the person under discussion(dissection) is not falling into a desired pattern.

When I first bumped into this board I was looking for a solution and was soon hit by all this mindless virgo bashing. I read the words carefully, analysed all the posts...and thought .. gosh these people are such control freaks! Most of them were just reactions based on unfulfilled personal expectations. And since this is an astrology board..they ascribe the behaviour to the whole group. Well now those rantings have started in the cancer boards. Most of them dont even sound genuine.

These repitious rantings and stereo-typing of the most negative type is the reason why Qbone responded the way he did to this description of virgo man. I did go to that site and found it too much bending towards negativity.

If you go to that cancer board. You will find that one lady comes and asks help regarding one of her cranky cancer friend. Lady no' 2 doesnt see the cancer moodiness as a big problem and gives a postive, helpful & encouraging response. Lady no. 1 continues with negative spilling. That rubs off on the lady no.2 , who at the end of it even fails to give a full hearted acknowled

Now addressing the gender based issue. Yes peoeple do blame one bad experince for hating a particualr group. You watch those reality shows and will find for example, a female treating men like sh*t because she saw her father abusing her mother several times.

Our society is going through a period of transition. Well established patterns are being shaken up due to certain factors which demand that the typical 'male' 'female' specific roles & expectations be dissolved. I use the word 'genetic memory' to second Tealeafhunter's description of 'Pre-programmed blueprint'...

Talking about women searching for a well settled man.. it sounds gross in todays world... but one thing .. some women who do this could be very pratical. Becuase all said and done a woman is the one who carries, gives birth & nurtures the child. Sometimes she may have to leave her job to do that. She may just not be physically fit. And many countries dont havea good support system for such women. So the choice of a man who earns more than her. But yea I do object to women who merely rides on her husband's bandwagon of success. Such women put themselves in a bad situation, where they get treated as 'bimbos'.

I do fail to understand the harrassment that a woman continues to face inspite of so much education & awareness inthis field. there is one thing which has always baffled me. For a formal ocassion a man will be dressed to look smart & his attire covers him fully from neck to toe. But a woman still ahs to dress up in a sexy way.. which often is skin/cleavage revealing. Not that I am judging this. Because i think women have a lot of choice in expressing her sexuality compared to a man. Butthen if she shooses to wear soemthign liek a 'tent'.. if she doesnt want to look sexy .. why is that taken as a sign of low self-esteem?

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Looneybird

"But then if she chooses to wear something like a 'tent'... if she doesn't want to look sexy... why is that taken as a sign of low self-esteem?"

Good point lady?

In western culture most "Females" use their "look" to advance their position in the community so there is no "advancements" if they put that "tent" over their head "like the most Islamic countries do".

There are lot of immigrants from countries like the Turkey living here and most of females from Turkey use "scarf" and not a "tent" to cover their hair (religion stuff and their belief as Muslim) and guess what?95% never get a job for God sake "because they don?t look like western woman!. French authorities even FORCE the kids with "scarf" in schools and terrorise those. Simply because of their looks!.

There are also many men from India with "turban", no chance for those neither..
I don?t know about other westerns countries, but here, people's mind and thoughts are linked to their eyes, if they like what they see, they'll accept it.

It's not about the race or racial problems, it's about the common problem?"JUDGING BY THE LOOK" and unfortunately this is a common disease in most modern communities every where.

Another problem is "xenophobia" promoted by stupid, ignorant, stereotyped politicians in the west that control the crowds by their "pea sized" brains. Before this stupid bloody "war on error" every westerner was welcomed with open arm in east, they always showed a huge respect to "guest from west" no matter how they look alike. Now— Heh.. they got this "imported version" of xenophobia as well.

Yes Qbone I hear you! That 'war on terror' has done a big harm to the western image. My dad has to sometimes face lot of hostilitiy due to that. The poor guy is such an international fellow though.

What I meant by the word tent was a loose dress which may not compliment the females figure. Just a gown..not the Islamic robe.

The thing about dressing to advance their position thing is happening here too. Singapore is totally westernised in this respect. And a female employee has to go with a perfect makeup.Otherwise she is not considered groomed enough.

And India? Well....in the big cities like Bombay & Delhi they could go a step further than their western counterparts in dressing to attract. They look great though i must admit. Unfortunately they are also into unhealthy food habits, courtesy McDonald's & becoming too obese at such a young age with health problems.
Another sad part is that the divore rates is growing. And it is the women who are intiating it! This may seem to be sign of liberation at the outset. But the females who are divorcing are those whose fathers are rich and has given them a fully paid house with a fat bank balance. These females go out each night. Boogie till wee hours of the morning & then land up in consultancy rooms. I totally blame their parents for not giving them enough challenge in life. This happens when things are handed out on a plate. They have nothing else to look forward to except which pub they are going ot hit, in the afternoon, evening & night. When they need more money, they get soem temporary jobs mainly as call center executives and the partying goes on.You will be surprised to know that the iNdians in India are more liberated than the iNdians abroad. LOL.

Hehe

Well India is India? great country with great culture (one of my greatest female friend was Indian from "Punjab") shame that she married with my friend?lol

I don?t blame this (liberation) on parents... The main evil behind all these, are a tool called propagandas and media they are dictating in form of "subliminal" messages, they are the one to be blamed not the parents.

People are generally following the "trends" the "urban life" and so on, like that "famous MARLBORO man" he was everywhere with that cigarette back in 90, now?where is he..?? Propagandas like drink this brand of vodka or whiskey and so on (luckily they are forbidden here in Norway) TV. series like "bay watch" or "sex in the city" they all contain that "subliminal" message people may watch the show for the fun and entertainment sake, but the message stays long in their head like "what if?.".

Today, people need to be very cautious and selective to their approach to this kind of entertainments, they are poison, totally harmful and mean and containing only the garbage "as computer term says? garbage in garbage out". Not long ago we had a topic like why girls should look like a Barbie..?? Many models destroyed their life/health and youth just to become a perfect supermodel accepted by those stupid propaganda bureaus, now they have anorexia and permanent psychological damage, just look at Hollywood movies? TV series?who ever come to the house.. goes directly to the refrigerator and find something to eat.. !! Or when some women get nervous start to "eat something like ice cream and so on"; can you see the message on these..??
Its devastating—..!!

This is an small example and it is for the kids only? and how media affects "for the research sake" and causing a damage to at least 2 generations of mankind across the globe


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Parents need to be savvier about media exposure, experts say


Thursday, October 30, 2003
By Karen MacPherson, Post-Gazette National Bureau


WASHINGTON -- Parents must be persuaded to join media industries in protecting children from graphic sex and violence on TV, in the movies, on video games and in music recordings, child development experts said yesterday.

During a Federal Trade Commission-sponsored hearing about marketing violent entertainment to children, FTC officials said media industries have improved in their efforts to develop rating systems and retail policies to help prevent children from watching, purchasing or renting inappropriate material.

While the media industries still could do much more, child experts and media industry officials agreed that there also needs to be an increased focus on convincing parents of the power that the media have -- for better or worse -- in affecting their children's development.

Parents who take young children to R-rated movies, who allow preteens to play sex- and violence-laden video games, and who put televisions in their toddlers' bedrooms need to understand the impact of those decisions on their children's intellectual, emotional and physical health, the experts said.

Each media industry now has some type of ratings system. The ratings can be confusing, and parents also must deal with the deluge of media marketing designed to entice their children to watch or purchase certain products, the experts said. But, they added, there is plenty of information about the content of media products for parents who want to use it.

"Part of our role is to keep the heat on the industry to make improvements," said David Walsh, founder and president of the National Institute on Media and the Family. Walsh noted, for example, that his group recently conducted an undercover survey in which a 7-year-old was sold a violent video game, rated "M" for Mature (ages 17 and older), by a clerk who helped him count out his money.

"But a major part of our effort now is also going to be focused on educating parents about the power of the media. You can't expect companies to have children's welfare as their priority; profit is the overwhelming priority for them," Walsh said. "But until parents understand the impact of the media on their children, they won't be motivated to take it seriously."

Harvard University pediatrics professor Michael Rich, director of the Center on Media and Child Health, noted that studies have shown that children ages 8 to 18 are immersed in some type of media -- television, computers, video games, etc. -- for hours each day.

A study released this week by the Kaiser Family Foundation showed that even the youngest children are media consumers, with children 3 and under spending about 13/4hours a day watching television, videos or DVDs.

Given those statistics, as well as research showing that exposure to media violence increases aggression in children, it's even more important for parents to understand media's impact on their children, Rich said.

Doug Lowenstein, president of the Entertainment Software Association, pointed to research showing that parents are involved in 83 percent of the purchases or rentals of video games.

The role of parents was just one issue discussed during the FTC conference, which brought together top officials of each of the major media industries, key lawmakers, child development experts and consumer advocacy groups.

At Congress' direction, the FTC has been focusing on the marketing of violence to children for nearly five years. In 2000, the agency rele

Cancerbuddy..

Know who..??
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This site also may help to understand the concept

http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/<BR>
warning
huge article... but also can be downloaded as "PDF".

Ackk?

Damn sorry.. the last article posted by me was intended to be in another message board than Dxp.net?
How the hell that happened..?

sorry ppl..
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LOL Qbone this reminds me of Archie Andrews of 'Archie Comics' telling Betty what he was supposed to tell Veronica. Are there any other interesting message boards? Care to share?

looneybird

Ahhh tons of?.

Just search in google and find some that suit your taste.
There are also a lots of garbage too? be advised.

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Hi

Actually I had tried a ouple of years ago. Found them user unfriendly. Dxpnet I just happened to bump into.

Thanx anyway.

Hi

The influence of media has always been potent in moulding the minds. Even in the days of the print media we were exposed to knowledge which geared us to move towards the direction intended by the State. Like it is said - one of the advantage of education is that it firmly instills the 'National Goals' in our minds. Education is a source of State Propaganda & a very effective one at that.

More importantly even the gender based roles are defined by the education system. Take the syllabus of the pre-primary school for instance. Look at their poetries & stories? Even if the child is brought up in the house where gender equality is practised, the school syllabus enforces -certian age old gender based social roles (momy with an apron, Papa reading a newspaper and sipping coffeee, or watching football....)

The messages are often mixed. Thankfully some of the stories like "Little Red Riding Hood" have been scrapped from the syllabus(atleast here). Just look at the story a 'heartless woman' sends her little daughter into the forest to give some medicines and food for her 'ailing old mother'. Why is that the old lady was left to fend for herself in a deep jungle where big bad wolves are waiting to prey upon helpless old ladies and little girls? And THE MAN is the saviour of the little girl. Even in Cinderalla Or Snow White... the MAN being the saviour & is a essential requirement to bring happiness & bliss in the life of a much tortured and helpless women is enforced. Most of these tales show women as dumb & helpless & their only respite in life is "The Proverbial Knight In Shining Armour". See for generations this pre-primary training made it difficult to wipe out the genetic blue print. It made the process of a woman to believe in herself difficult in some cases.We need to change it. The only way is to correct the education system. To be very watchful of what messages are actually being possibly absorbed by the young impressionable minds. These messages do mitigate the efforts towards establishing gender equality & empowerment of women.

Looneybird

That is exactly my point...! and I refer it also to those (superhero stuff) on the other post too..

Plain wrong image of to be human has been given to us by the (sick minds) in the name of entertainment.

"The little lady screams in fear and that brave boy running to save the day".
Or
"Something happen and everyone looking for superhero to do the job".

All of this shows that we are weak/hopeless/sick/mindless and unable to control our situation and destiny?a cattle?!And can not survive without an "external" help?or super help for that matter.

There is a plan behind all of this?. Everything has its own reason..!!



Hehe? I guess the age of EVE for females has ended.

Next role model?.. the LILITH..??

Who knows?!

hahah hi sweet-P
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Hi Sweet-P Honey ! Blowing a kiss towards you. Do swimm towards this direction more often. Doesnt matter how swiftly though.

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Yeah Qbone I get it! There should be shows whih depict how people for a change use their presene of mind & tackle crime with joint efforts, instead of waiting for a super-hero to come for the rescue.

good idea, but the "system" is such that the goal is to create a society that is "safe", and reliable, predictable, CONTROLABLE, and so on. if people are self reliant and have the ability to see clearly and make unbias choices about ones life, it poses a threat to the powers that be.
unfortunately, its possible that not all folks have this kind of will or even the desire to be control-free. they would like to continue sleepwalking this life and hand over their trust to the govt and their safety to the police. who do not serve and protect, they merely serve as a presence to uphold a system of control.
the media is an excellent tool because it offers a means of influence and control without seeming obviously(to most)oppressive.
tapping into ones psychology is quite easy thru propaganda. especially if ones desires are stimulated all the while progressively detracting the quality of life thus making what is desired even more desireable. a perpetual 'grass is greener on the other side' thing.
another reaction is spite, depression, aggression, "blanking", cynicism, etc.
sedated and 'happy' or pissed off and doubtful, it all distracts us from the fact that our lives may not be as fulfilling as we would like them to be.
many blame other people, "the system", and so forth. the real deal is that many folks lack the will and discipline required to take ones life responsibilities into their own hands. if responsibility is taken then no need for the superheros and no damsels in distress.

**sorry about posting the already known and depressing info on my last post.

Sorry about that Looney...............

Nice one Seize the day!!!!..................

Q-bone.......................what happened with you man—.............it was a funny article..................nothing more...nothing less.............your virgo analatical mind kicked into overdrive!!!!!..................where's your wicked sense of humour my pal——————————Anyway, still love ya.

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Hi Alana Dear!

I guess I am missing something. LOL. But what are you apologising for honey?

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Hi lovely Alana...

I guess I've lost my sense of humour somewhere... Too much serious talk with serious people lately messes up with my mind..!!

And Thanks you still love me?. Me too loves you too lady..!!

Tsk tsk Qbone! Didn't you know that you are incharge of your own mind? LOL

I didn?t lost my mind?.
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