No, having sex is not all, but it is whats the most valuable currency in media. If media helps dictate what we think and what we "choose" to recognize, then sexuality is the most valuable currency to us(on a certain level).
oh, and most of "this"(most of the human-made crap around us)is made to attract more sexuality, or procreate.(granted its different for me, i live in new york city) so maybe all of these posts and the subject matter is really our genes saying "hey lets make more humans!".
Sweet-P, You are definately right, beauty is within and without all of us. What Im talking about is cultural and societal 'standards' for what is 'considered' to be 'physically attractive'. Your example of your friend just solidifies my point: "...Because this poor girl is constantly judged based on her looks, men only want to treetrunk her and women hate her and cookiemonster about her..."
Okay I agree that beauty is in the mind. Consider this. When we are drawn to a person, it is soemthing about that person's way of presenting themselves that we are drawn to. So this way beauty is Visual stuff + the mind. By visual stuff and all my above posts i defintiely donot mean the visual stuff just as presented in media.
Take a girl/guy next door. In order for us to be drawn to that person s/he has to have seomthing which will make us go up to her/him and get friendly. The acquaintance can lead to soemthing more intimate or may not. The issue is that every person oozes out a vibe.This vibe may be compatible with some individuals & incompatible with others. The next is the body language. This helps us to know what mood the person is in & whether that person likes us or not. This body language also could be offensive or pleasant which may attract to or repel us from that person. This is visual + intuition which i consider as mind at its creativeness.
What is visual is an extension of mind. Which need not be glamorous or physically beautiful. A majority of peopel around us are simple folks . Ordinary peopel with extra-ordinary mind. We gel with soem minds & with some we dont.
For example at this board all of us vibrantly comuniating with each other. We do vibe here. And that is mind. But do y'all think that if some of us happened to meet each other what is visual may alter our response to that physical person?
yeah, definately. "here" we are only mind and pixel. that would be interesting...eventually I could see the development of fully integrated virtual chat rooms where participants have a virtual identity that is created by them-to be whoever they want. Perhaps we are now "first generation" versions of mind to mind communication where our bodies are the "virtual identities"(just in a cruder, more organic form). Maybe online chat and the internet has created a "second generation" indentity/consciousness. And the third might be a virtual one-similar to "The Matrix" only more simplified at first-perhaps just a single "room" where participants meet up...who knows...
yeah, definately. "here" we are only mind and pixel. that would be interesting...eventually I could see the development of fully integrated virtual chat rooms where participants have a virtual identity that is created by them-to be whoever they want. Perhaps we are now "first generation" versions of mind to mind communication where our bodies are the "virtual identities"(just in a cruder, more organic form). Maybe online chat and the internet has created a "second generation" indentity/consciousness. And the third might be a virtual one-similar to "The Matrix" only more simplified at first-perhaps just a single "room" where participants meet up...who knows...
Q- c'mon man, on one hand it is ALL in the the mind...on the other I think you know full well what I mean when I say 'hottie'. If you dont Im sure there is a similar word in Norway that describes a woman with an exceptionally pretty face, smooth skin, long and strong legs, curvy hips, a flat stomach, a full busom, pretty hair, full and red lips. Its in our genes for hetero men to be attracted to these symbols-the full hips and busom express a good ability to bear and raise children, whereas the flat stomach says "not pregnant, is available for babies" the full lips and colored lipstick, bluch on the cheeks, eyeliner...all tools that copy visual signs of arousal-blood flushed lips and cheeks and brighter, wider eyes. I would not believe any hetero man(unless medically blind) that says that some part of him is not attracted to say Carmen Electra, Pamela Anderson, Brooke Burke, or Denise Richards.These 'Hollywood'women are visually equipped to have sex and bear children. Thats what I think is at the root of ANY woman who makes her self pretty/attractive/desirable/impregnateable. You're right Q, everything is in the mind. The five senses may all be 'empty of a seperate self' but there are imperical stimulators of those five senses which create desires and cultural systems that branch off.
I couldn't be more agreeing with your post...but about TLH post I am sure that what he said was as "sarcasm".
I mean everyone love to "feast their eyes". And there is nothing wrong to admire a beauty (even it is covered by a ton's of "make-ups" and botox stuff).
I can show you some entertainment groups called the Garlic girls in Norway and the after dark in Sweden they are so beautiful and elegant that your heart melts in second with all those cat walks and long legs and shiny lips and perfect belly etc?. If you don?t know about those they are transvestites.
Beauty can be created and recreated, there are institutes around the globe that can make a real magic, but beauty needs to be first "REALISED" then "VISUALISED" e.g. mind work. Not vice a versa.
Most models and Hollywood babes are there to give a universal look of a desirable female, what is desirable is under the question..! When you see a lot of desirable woman? are they still desirable..??
And yes TLH.. I understand the term of "hotties" and there are a lot of those in "everyday living in Scandinavia"? in fact during my youth I was so busy with those beauties that even in "subway" yes? "Subways" I had a problem to find who I am going to "watch" for the rest of the travelling time.
Then.. After almost 50 dates with those beauties?.. My head turned around 180 degrees in opposite direction.
Beauty is in MIND? not the shapes or appearance?.!!
The human soiety is still going through a period of transition since the days of Industrial Revolution w.r.t the male - female social roles. This has been hard on both fe/males. The solution is not so simple as we would wish it could be. Whether the new woman has happened for good or not ... my understanding is this. The modern world has created this awareness that both men and women are born with feminine & masuline qualities..the yin & the yang. In some women the masculine qualities are stronger while in some men the feminine qualities.It is necessary to realise this and direct ones life accordingly. There are many aggressive women who are aggressively pursuing their careers and are in a mrriage/partnership with less ambitious guys who are happy pursuing a low key career and looking after the household. There is nothing wrong in that.
Coming to the media hyped 'looks'. Yes it is unfortunate about how the world revovles around "looks". The real qualtiies of the person can be missed out. And some men do use women as trophies. But a majority of them look into what is there in the head of the woman.And yes I have faced this situation where if a female is pretty and not aspiring to be a 'model' she is considered to be dumb.
I must add here that pretty women dont end up with the best looking or the most successful men all the time. They are human beings and want to be treated with dignity. I have seen many women "lookers" or plane Jane" landing up with the so called very ordinary men with reasonable level of success as they are assured of getting love from them. So the world is not as bleak through out the life as it seems to be when you start to explore it on your own. And see even if one is average in appearance, one can always add to ones personality by increasing confidence- by being good at your chosen field & good personal grooming. Come on these are the essentials of life.
Like i had told one of my dear male friend. Be yourself. No matter how many females reject you. Remember those are not capable of peeping into your mind. So good riddance. The once who will recognise and accept you will definitely be a deep person ready to walk with you until the sunset.
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