? say no but im sure there are some i don't think i am one even though alot of people say i am. I thought about this when caj kept saying alot women think he is one. That pic don't help caj lol.
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mmm i wouldnt go there i do notice pisces men are i know two who were pimps
lol dy i have thought about it in the past but im to nice i will feel bad
Posted by DyTryin
I could see a VG being a pimp -- lots of tax-free money!!
yeah, my bff is one but he's by no means the norm...for men or virgos.
he calls it "flashbang." in military terms - stun grenades: These grenades are used to temporally neutralize the combat effectiveness of enemies by usually disorienting their senses.
so what he does is in the first few weeks/dates, he wines and dines. valet parks, spends several hundred on dinner. he does it up and where he doesn't turn down sex, he makes sure that he's the perfect gentleman. this is the flash...she's dazzled now and thinking, "oh my god, i got a winner." then comes the BANG.
all of sudden, this wonderful guy who's been wining and dining you, who's only given you a peck on the cheek, he has a flat tire and is in between pay periods. if only he hadn't valet parked the other day.
home girl then offers to buy him a tire. and oh, while they're at the store getting the one tire, the other three are kinda in need too. can she front him the money for the other three? sure, i mean he's good for it right?
the woman undergoes a series of these hard luck scenarios and by the time the woman realizes what has happened, it's too late. she's hooked. and the sad part is, some of the women don't even realize it 😛
thats agood idea tub lol just cost to much but i can see that working.
Hmmmm.... I have mixed feelings about this. Mainly because I think Virgos will portray themselves how they wanna been seen by the outside world. I see my Virgo with player mentalities because from what he told me, I thought he was being a player. When we talked yesterday about my concerns about him being a player and sticking to his old ways, he told me that just because he bounces from girl to girl doesn't mean that he was doing the dirty with them.
So, that got me really thinking..... he IS very reserved and shy, but I think ladies challenge him, and it allows him to be a man, in control whether or not he wants to have sex with a girl that he has picked up. For him, it's a control thing.....
This type of behavior allows him to avoid his real emotions......
So, that got me really thinking..... he IS very reserved and shy, but I think ladies challenge him, and it allows him to be a man, in control whether or not he wants to have sex with a girl that he has picked up. For him, it's a control thing.....
This type of behavior allows him to avoid his real emotions......
Posted by virgoking
thats agood idea tub lol just cost to much but i can see that working.
oh yeah, this isn't for wanna be playas. as he puts it, he's a big game hunter. it's one thing to hunt deer, it's entirely another to hunt lions.
for the most part, players are just men who can easily recognize vulnerable women. for my friend, his test is telling a girl before their first date that she has great legs and that he would love to see her in a mini-skirt. if the girl shows up in a mini-skirt, he knows that she's easily manipulated...that she will follow direction well. i mean, how many grown women have mini-skirts in their closet and if they don't who would go so far as buying one simply because a guy said he'd like to see you in it? it surprised me that the answer is, many.
conversely, if a girl doesn't wear the mini, she's obviously going to be more of a challenge and in a way, gets more respect initially than those who wore the skirt. for these women, he needs to up his game OR for a brief moment, i think my VM bff thinks he may have found "The One"...until she gives in and does something stupid like opening up a bank account in his name and depositing money on a monthly basis for him to use. women can be desperate.
in the end, i learned never to trust what a man says. look at his actions. this isn't pre-1950s. deals struck with handshakes don't mean what they used to. and man's word isn't worth the paper it's not written on. so all men are players...until they're not.
interesting mars i do believe he is real with u..when i really like a women i tell her things about me that are not so good bc im coming clean and want to change for her.. thats what it sounds like he is doing for u.. but like me and the women in my life ur taking it the wrong way thinking he is up 2 no good. if he was he would not tell u that much about himself..
Men like Tubby described are usually closeted gays and/or have serious deep seated issues with women.
Either way, yes, people can be pretty damn naive.
Either way, yes, people can be pretty damn naive.
Posted by virgoking
interesting mars i do believe he is real with u..when i really like a women i tell her things about me that are not so good bc im coming clean and want to change for her.. thats what it sounds like he is doing for u.. but like me and the women in my life ur taking it the wrong way thinking he is up 2 no good. if he was he would not tell u that much about himself..
Being real and being an asshole are two separate things. He's been a real asshole for the last 2 weeks.... maybe I am reading into it too far, but when someone starts shutting someone close to them out, then it's because of a few things.... they either don't want that person in their life anymore, they hate that person, they don't want to hurt that person, they are up to no good, or they are doing something wrong. Either situation, shutting someone out means only one thing.... you're hiding something and you don't want that person to see it.
But maybe that's my trust issues playing a factor......
I don't think Virgos are players. They are just flirts...
which means, they are eternal children getting a kick out of little, harmless plays here and there...
which means, they are eternal children getting a kick out of little, harmless plays here and there...
Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
I don't think Virgos are players. They are just flirts...
which means, they are eternal children getting a kick out of little, harmless plays here and there...
Yep.... hopeless flirts.... they can't help it when they see what they like.
Posted by MsPisces.
Men like Tubby described are usually closeted gays and/or have serious deep seated issues with women.
Either way, yes, people can be pretty damn naive.
wow, i think it's pretty offensive to throw "gay" as a label around when you don't like a person's behavior. it demeans gays, not the men you have issues with.
Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
I don't think Virgos are players. They are just flirts...
which means, they are eternal children getting a kick out of little, harmless plays here and there...
virgos are considered the bachelors of the zodiac. that includes the women. so if the men are perpetually single, wouldn't the same be true of the women? in my experience, it is.
whether they're sluts or hoes, VM/VF seem to have commitment phobias. and even when they commit, i think they may have tendencies that make permanent unions difficult. thus...bachelors of the zodiac.
so question is, if virgo men are players, are virgo women the same thing?
i never thought myself as a player i dont like mind games and hurting people feelings 2 much.
wtf is a player anyway its just a person with alot of issues who needs 2 work on themselves to understand their behavior.
women are different from men, bottom line. We think differently than men do for reasons. I think Leos or cappies are more likely to be bachelors than a virgo.
Posted by tubbyscubbyPosted by MsPisces.
Men like Tubby described are usually closeted gays and/or have serious deep seated issues with women.
Either way, yes, people can be pretty damn naive.
wow, i think it's pretty offensive to throw "gay" as a label around when you don't like a person's behavior. it demeans gays, not the men you have issues with.click to expand
I said closeted gays. There is a difference in the state of mind/behavior of a person who is living in secret, vs. someone who is open.
I know exactly the type of men you're talking about,btw. My comments have nothing to do with my like or dislike of said men. Its merely an observation that usually stands corrected.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
women are different from men, bottom line. We think differently than men do for reasons. I think Leos or cappies are more likely to be bachelors than a virgo.
nope in what world leos love attention to be a bachelor and caps want to bulid a empire with someone lmfao.
the reason y virgo has the bachelor label is because of the symbol the virgin means to be with one self without being married.
If only astrology really dictated these kinds of things..
Posted by tubbyscubbyPosted by FUMRedFairy_tales
I don't think Virgos are players. They are just flirts...
which means, they are eternal children getting a kick out of little, harmless plays here and there...
virgos are considered the bachelors of the zodiac. that includes the women. so if the men are perpetually single, wouldn't the same be true of the women? in my experience, it is.
whether they're sluts or hoes, VM/VF seem to have commitment phobias. and even when they commit, i think they may have tendencies that make permanent unions difficult. thus...bachelors of the zodiac.
so question is, if virgo men are players, are virgo women the same thing?
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I don't know about Virgo women, Tubby. I don't seem to befriend the V-female. All I know from general observation is that V-guys appear to reflect femininity and the V-females appear to reflect more male lines/attitude. But this is truly being stereotypical. Perhaps V-women are flirts too, but I seriously believe all together, they value monogamy.
I think if Virgo goes over the line of having two sex partners at the same time.... let's say 2 one-night stands in a row, they'd be pretty damn feeling weird. I am not saying they cant do it and they'd feel bad about it, but they'd consider themselves player at the first run even. And I do believe, the V-guy would remember this for the rest of his life of what a player he was on those 2 nights.
@ms.pisces, i've had few friends who were closeted and none of them exhibited the behavior as i've described. most of my male friends are canines in one way or another. some are better at it than others. and in all cases, being closeted has nothing to do with it. in all cases, it's that they're dealing with women who will do any and everything to avoid being single. i don't fault the guys, i don't assume they secretly want men, i see immature people seeking other immature people.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
the reason y virgo has the bachelor label is because of the symbol the virgin means to be with one self without being married.
uhm no...it has to do with the fact that virgos have more bachelors than any other sign. virgos and sags are notoriously single.
Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
I don't know about Virgo women, Tubby. I don't seem to befriend the V-female. All I know from general observation is that V-guys appear to reflect femininity and the V-females appear to reflect more male lines/attitude. But this is truly being stereotypical. Perhaps V-women are flirts too, but I seriously believe all together, they value monogamy.
I think if Virgo goes over the line of having two sex partners at the same time.... let's say 2 one-night stands in a row, they'd be pretty damn feeling weird. I am not saying they cant do it and they'd feel bad about it, but they'd consider themselves player at the first run even. And I do believe, the V-guy would remember this for the rest of his life of what a player he was on those 2 nights.
hmmm...one of my VF friends introduced me to a term called "double dipping." this was after she had sex with her boss one night and her long-time on again, off again bf the next night. she told both of them about the activity of course.
then i have another who claims she's only had sex with one guy. whenever she makes this assertion, i say things like, "i know you CLAIM to have only had one partner..." i know she's been with more guys because she's told me in the past but i let her believe that i believe the BS.
yes, i think Virgo is prone to monogamy but they're sluts too. they're just better at hiding it because they appear to be too asinine to get around like that.
"@ms.pisces, i've had few friends who were closeted and none of them exhibited the behavior as i've described."
So have I. Just because one is closeted, doesn't mean they *will* exhibit those behaviors.
"in all cases, it's that they're dealing with women who will do any and everything to avoid being single."
No. They're seeking them out. They aren't just happening across them.
"i don't fault the guys, i don't assume they secretly want men, i see immature people seeking other immature people."
Immaturity has little to do with a person who purposely sets out to prey upon vulnerable people to that extreme. The issue(s) is usually deeper than that. As I said, deep seated issues with women and/or issues dealing with their secret sexuality. 'Healthy' people don't view the opposite sex as prey....atleast not to that degree.
So have I. Just because one is closeted, doesn't mean they *will* exhibit those behaviors.
"in all cases, it's that they're dealing with women who will do any and everything to avoid being single."
No. They're seeking them out. They aren't just happening across them.
"i don't fault the guys, i don't assume they secretly want men, i see immature people seeking other immature people."
Immaturity has little to do with a person who purposely sets out to prey upon vulnerable people to that extreme. The issue(s) is usually deeper than that. As I said, deep seated issues with women and/or issues dealing with their secret sexuality. 'Healthy' people don't view the opposite sex as prey....atleast not to that degree.
I've known quite a few promiscuous Virgo women....but I'm not one to generalize 🙂
sorry....they CAN be sluts too 😉 i think there's a ho in all of us.
They're the best sluts though, as most don't have a clue.
Posted by MsPisces.
Immaturity has little to do with a person who purposely sets out to prey upon vulnerable people to that extreme. The issue(s) is usually deeper than that. As I said, deep seated issues with women and/or issues dealing with their secret sexuality. 'Healthy' people don't view the opposite sex as prey....atleast not to that degree.
you're right. it's pathological but to be honest with you, it's pretty prevalent in this area. i've moved around A LOT and never had i witnessed anything like this before until i moved here. it's pretty common and it's only common because too many women allow it.
i actually met a guy, police officer, one day. gave him my #. he called "after his shift" which was after 11. i picked up the phone thinking it was one of my gf's. it was the dude. anyway, he tells me that he really was interested in taking me out but full disclosure, he has a girl.
now i'm sure you know my reaction, i'm sure i know your reaction, but women in this area, they would have the take, "you're not married so..."
he can't play a game if he's the only player. these aren't weak women. they're seasoned professionals and business owners. one of them has told him straight up that she just wants him to take care of business. instead of sugar daddies, they're sugar mommies. not my thing but they're two consenting adults. and what has ALWAYS surprised me...even when the facade is gone, these women stay with him. they keep giving him money. it's NUTS!
Mmhmm.
I know of it all too well. Unless you're in New York as well, I don't think its limited to certain regions. It happens all over. I have my theories as to why this is all so prevalent nowadays, but I don't really feel like getting into it right now lol. To each his own, I suppose. The thing that kills me though, are the women who pretend to be genuinely okay with it all. I don't buy that shit for a second. Granted, there are some who can be cool with it, but they are the exception, and few and far between.
I have a few male friends who are always trying to put me on to the game, and once in a while they tell me something I didn't already know, but the bottomline is, they don't make victims out of strong women. Those women were weak to begin with, no matter their position in society. Predators can smell their prey from a mile away. They know exactly who to pull that stuff on.
I know of it all too well. Unless you're in New York as well, I don't think its limited to certain regions. It happens all over. I have my theories as to why this is all so prevalent nowadays, but I don't really feel like getting into it right now lol. To each his own, I suppose. The thing that kills me though, are the women who pretend to be genuinely okay with it all. I don't buy that shit for a second. Granted, there are some who can be cool with it, but they are the exception, and few and far between.
I have a few male friends who are always trying to put me on to the game, and once in a while they tell me something I didn't already know, but the bottomline is, they don't make victims out of strong women. Those women were weak to begin with, no matter their position in society. Predators can smell their prey from a mile away. They know exactly who to pull that stuff on.
I don't think Virgo men are players, but I DO think a lot of women misconstrue their genuine curiosity and willingness to listen as being "interested" in them. So they run with it, get caught up, and then get their feelings hurt when things go awry or he gives them the "We should just be friends" talk.
For Virgo men who realize this, yes MOST DEFINITELY, they can use it to their advantage. They may not be down and out charming (My Virgo ex certainly WAS NOT in traditional sense) but they have this way of making it seem as if you're the most "interesting" thing they have going on, and you'll never guess that they can make EVERYONE feel that way. LMAO!
I have to admit, I've been sexually attracted to plenty of Virgo men but we operate on too similar a wavelength, IMO, for anything to ever come out of it beyond the short term initial "click."
For Virgo men who realize this, yes MOST DEFINITELY, they can use it to their advantage. They may not be down and out charming (My Virgo ex certainly WAS NOT in traditional sense) but they have this way of making it seem as if you're the most "interesting" thing they have going on, and you'll never guess that they can make EVERYONE feel that way. LMAO!
I have to admit, I've been sexually attracted to plenty of Virgo men but we operate on too similar a wavelength, IMO, for anything to ever come out of it beyond the short term initial "click."
Posted by Mars.In.Aries
Yep.... hopeless flirts.... they can't help it when they see what they like.click to expand
Shhhhh! Don't be tellin' all our secrets! Damn!
But you're right though, lol! It used to baffle my exes' friends how he and I could be at a bar together, "flirt up" the whole bar, and then walk out arm and arm like nothing happened.
@ms.pisces, true. i have friends who say they're cool with it....until they're not. i mean it's one thing for them to have a wife/gf and that eventually becomes a problem when these women start wanting the dude to leave his wife or spend more time with them. but what really gets their goat is discovering that not only are they competing with a wife, but another bun buddy. i think that sets them off and that's when tires get slashed, cars get keyed, phones get broken into and numbers dialed....
and i think a woman is strong until she isn't. i mean even strong women can fall prey to a liar/con man. i'm like you, i have friends who have alerted me to amazing things.
like there's a group of male friends who do really well for themselves. they each have homes in different states/areas. they share keys to those homes. they decorate each bedroom lavishly so that it appears that if you're visiting, even if you're not in the master, when he says, "this is my investment home that i share with my best friend," it doesn't seem so far fetched. add that to the fact that his clothes and shoes are in the closet and it appears that he belongs there...who would question this?
dating these days is a "trust no one" environment.
and i think a woman is strong until she isn't. i mean even strong women can fall prey to a liar/con man. i'm like you, i have friends who have alerted me to amazing things.
like there's a group of male friends who do really well for themselves. they each have homes in different states/areas. they share keys to those homes. they decorate each bedroom lavishly so that it appears that if you're visiting, even if you're not in the master, when he says, "this is my investment home that i share with my best friend," it doesn't seem so far fetched. add that to the fact that his clothes and shoes are in the closet and it appears that he belongs there...who would question this?
dating these days is a "trust no one" environment.
"i think a woman is strong until she isn't."
Mm.
Mm.
@ms.pisces, you must have yet to meet your "piece" yet? when/if you do, be prepared to lose parts of your mind. a "strong" woman will maintain her dignity and self-respect but it's gonna take a moment to figure out where her mind went. turns out, it was on vacation but it always returns 😉
oh... great post!
especially on Friday approaching eve ... and not being productive all day long... this is fun to read comments by smart women and lets bash the Virgos
because they are just too smart to join... darn!
especially on Friday approaching eve ... and not being productive all day long... this is fun to read comments by smart women and lets bash the Virgos
because they are just too smart to join... darn!
lol...i just want my back to stop hurting. i need something stronger than aleve
awww... tubby
I have back problems all the time. Started working out intensely in gym again. But this time, my feet hurt. Can't do it right it seems...
I have back problems all the time. Started working out intensely in gym again. But this time, my feet hurt. Can't do it right it seems...
Posted by virgoking
? say no but im sure there are some i don't think i am one even though alot of people say i am. I thought about this when caj kept saying alot women think he is one. That pic don't help caj lol.
LOL
I put it up on purpose, so that I will be misjudged 🙂
Posted by DyTryin
Here's a Truth: Smart as we are, Virgos can be naive / clueless when dealing with the opposite sex. We fall for the wrong people, and hurt the right ones, and never understand why things don't work out the way we plan...
Dy tellin' it like it is...
Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
I don't think Virgos are players. They are just flirts...
which means, they are eternal children getting a kick out of little, harmless plays here and there...click to expand
Excellent deduction
Posted by tubbyscubby
VM/VF seem to have commitment phobias. and even when they commit, i think they may have tendencies that make permanent unions difficult. thus...bachelors of the zodiac.
so question is, if virgo men are players, are virgo women the same thing?
Not on your life. I'll not argue that there may be plenty with commitment issues on both sides and players/playettes galore, but as a Virgo myself, I'm the farthest thing from a player that you can humanly get and once I commit, it is with heart and soul to the core of my being . . . and I've the goods to commit for a lifetime!
I have a little personal thesis that most all Virgos are innately "frightened" of commitment in its initial phases only because: a) deep emotional exchanges terrify us for the vulnerability that they demand, and b) we don't inherently trust a lot of people and that easily. These two factors can both be traced to the fact that we are afraid of "being burned" or of "winding up with the wrong person"/settling for a "cheaper" experience. We know people can be genuine jerks and we long for someone to know, embrace, and understand us intimately and thoroughly (the deeper-evolved versions of us, that is)--I myself wishing to experience love at a near-other-worldly level--so the prospect of being loved on a mundane, superficial level and just as easily discarded (after having divulged our deepest selves) or of winding up with someone that will never love us the way we want to love/be loved gives us such cause for concern that we can back ourselves right out of the deal before it even starts. The paradox is that once we feel certain (or at least significantly hopeful) that we've landed such a love, we can shirk all care to the wind, abandon all our mental bookkeeping (charts, spreadsheets, scoreboards), and dive in for all we're worth (the deeper-evolved versions of us, that is)--leaving no appreciable exit doors or secret tunnels outta there.
That's why, though many Virgos have bona fide commitment issues to last them a lifetime and ARE the bachelors and spinsters of the zodiac, you'll find some of us (the deeper-evolved versions of us, that is 😉) crying "Heresy!" and defending Commitment tooth-and-nail with the conviction of a Medieval martyr facing the stake!
(Continued)
That said, I know several Virgo players (all male) that make such folly of my above description that they give a bad name to Virgos and oughtta be outright tarred and feathered, branded, and towed off to the nearest scrap metal dealer!
That said, I know several Virgo players (all male) that make such folly of my above description that they give a bad name to Virgos and oughtta be outright tarred and feathered, branded, and towed off to the nearest scrap metal dealer!
Posted by Kaleidescorp
No, I don't think virgos are players. They seem to have a very elevated sense of doing what's right and playing a woman would go against everything they hold as a virtue I would think. They also seem to have a sense of old fashioned ideas about relationships and women. Women are to be treated respect and dignity, they are to be cherished, and I think virgos really hold to that deeply. I know my virgo friend would probably fit in more with the society of the 1940s, and he really seems disillusioned with the way society presents itself today. Women have no respect for themselves, men have no respect for themselves, and how can we respect others when we can't even respect ourselves. While I think he would make a very sexy and debonair player, it's just not in him to use anyone in that way. There would be no logic to it, no refinement in treating another in such a way, and really what would the purpose be except to cause society to slide further into decay?
Have I told you lately, I love you? 😄
Posted by CajunspiritPosted by Kaleidescorp
No, I don't think virgos are players. They seem to have a very elevated sense of doing what's right and playing a woman would go against everything they hold as a virtue I would think. They also seem to have a sense of old fashioned ideas about relationships and women. Women are to be treated respect and dignity, they are to be cherished, and I think virgos really hold to that deeply. I know my virgo friend would probably fit in more with the society of the 1940s, and he really seems disillusioned with the way society presents itself today. Women have no respect for themselves, men have no respect for themselves, and how can we respect others when we can't even respect ourselves. While I think he would make a very sexy and debonair player, it's just not in him to use anyone in that way. There would be no logic to it, no refinement in treating another in such a way, and really what would the purpose be except to cause society to slide further into decay?
Have I told you lately, I love you? 😄click to expand
daMN SOMEONE IS SCORPIO WHIPPED HAHAHAHAHA LMFAO.
DY U HAVE ANOTHER CREW MEMBER ON DECK PLZ TEACH HIM ALL UR GODLY WISDOM ABOUT THEM LMFAO
Posted by **StringsAttached**
Not on your life. I'll not argue that there may be plenty with commitment issues on both sides and players/playettes galore, but as a Virgo myself, I'm the farthest thing from a player that you can humanly get and once I commit, it is with heart and soul to the core of my being . . . and I've the goods to commit for a lifetime!
i dunno, i think that yes, there are some virgos that are virtuous but like all people, there are those who are not. and those who are not are simply more protective of the details of their sex life in comparison to other signs that might proudly announce their sexual conquests.
so are virgos players? they're capable of it but they're not polly anna's either.
I find this question going through my mind for some time now, but I dont really find them to be "players" at all. The men I know that are Virgo, they are pretty upfront, you got to listen, they say it, but oh so nicely, not so blunt w/words.
This sometimes I believe gets them the "label" but if you really listen, they are usually telling you exactly what is going on w/them/you, etc..........
I also find w/virgo females that are my friends, the same, they are serious about their relationships. But they wont lead you down a path of dishonor, destruction, or dishonesty. Not the most of them. Thus, they are not "players" not intentional players
This sometimes I believe gets them the "label" but if you really listen, they are usually telling you exactly what is going on w/them/you, etc..........
I also find w/virgo females that are my friends, the same, they are serious about their relationships. But they wont lead you down a path of dishonor, destruction, or dishonesty. Not the most of them. Thus, they are not "players" not intentional players
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
daMN SOMEONE IS SCORPIO WHIPPED HAHAHAHAHA LMFAO.
DY U HAVE ANOTHER CREW MEMBER ON DECK PLZ TEACH HIM ALL UR GODLY WISDOM ABOUT THEM LMFAO
lmao you nin-com-poop!
Did you even read what she wrote?
It's so true 😛
Posted by DyTryin
With the exception of one bona-fide Player, all of the Virgo Men I know are honorable, truthful, forever married men...
Yeah, I was kinda hoping to land one of those in my lifetime . . . (Strings hangs head and drags feet off into the horizon . . .)
is that keanu reeves in your picture sorti—
james bond is a virgo?
but how is he a smooth talker? james bond, the character he plays is. sean connery might be a douche personally. just a thought.
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As a Virgo male, I don't have a Friend Zone for women. Once you meet my criteria I can and will date you. But th
I just don't understand my virgo man tonight..He texts and says he is off work this week and wants to see me, I say what
I broke up with my past virgo man that had been frustrating me in June and met another (whaddyaknow) virgo man shortly a
This Virgo and I have never been sexual with each other, but we have cuddled and slept in the same bed. WE are actually
Hello people, I have been very nice, kind, generous and have loved my virgo man more than 100%. And suddenly I all get
I've been reading about signs to look for if a Virgo man does like you, but what about the signs that he doesn't? If it