FFS - why can't we communicate—

Hello, me again, it's my birthday, I'm also 'up on the blocks' and feel delirious. 'It's my party and I'll cry if I want to'...

Anyway, I am getting really sick of the fact that the Virgo guy friend and I can't communicate emotionally. There's no directness at all. I can't speak. I can't tell him how I feel as he hasn't clarified his relationship status to me regardless of the fact he flirts with me and we have fun.

Last night when we were reunited following a period of three weeks, we chatted, had a nice time, flirted, and I was prompted on what I wanted for my love life over the next 12 months. Well aside from me going all coy and laughing (ah if only he knew how I really felt, like REALLY felt)...I did however inform him that 'he should let me know when he's available' (he changed the subject promptly). No doubt he'll think on this and mull it over and reject me, or....but the energy I spend worrying about why we can't seem to just get it out is doing my chesticles RIGHT in.

Why does it have to be me to take the plunge? And why after a smoochie kiss on the lips goodnight, and a tug on my hands from him as I left (me turning away). Why can't he just be direct and speak. This nonverablisation is not helping and he can't expect me to be direct? He's the one with the vague status.

Gnaaaaaaah.

This is poo.

x

Jump him. Seriously. Between Virgo shy and Taurus shielding nothing will happen if someone doesn't MOVE.

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Heck yes! I've got enough Fire in me to take that Bull and give it a swift kick up the back side. Grab it and GROWL lady.

And HAPPY BIRTHDAY MayDORISDAY! 🙂

But then is this ALWAYS going to be the case? Because quite frankly I've got better things to do than contribute 80% to a relationship and get 20% back?

Thanks venusianbull, shame no matter how much cake I eat, a man has ruined my day. Feeling heavy of heart...........

nice tip wgamador. I might try it, but still not convinced about the benefits of getting in to a relationship with this one.

Posted by venusianbull
Jump him.

I approve of this form of communication.

No, this will not always be the case. Trust that one, it's bank. Taurus is unsure where they stand ( trepidation ), Virgo wants but won't claim ( frustration ) until things are processed. It's a vicious circle and one must get the ball rolling and TAKE.
It'll be like flipping a switch. When Virgo is ON, it's full tilt. BE PREPARED for the onslaught. It's consuming, and wonderful.
Definitely what wgamador said. Throw down a challenge. Be a full on BULL and switch that on megawatt. Be sensuous, smolder, and throw down a challenge.
"Ya want some of this, well come and get it Big Man."

And NEVER let anyone ruin some damned fine cake. It's your birthday, enjoy the day. Throw on something good and get down with it. 🙂

He doesn't drink (problems), so I guess it's not the best idea to have a drink and approach him with my brewery breath?

LOL I could snog you VH. Your comments like that are so political in flavor. "I am Virgo Hero. And I approve this message."

Posted by venusianbull
LOL I could snog you VH. Your comments like that are so political in flavor. "I am Virgo Hero. And I approve this message."

lol Hey, I'm all about making a stand for what you believe in 😛

Hahah I can't help it that all I saw was....

"Blah blah blah... Jump him...blah blah blah blah blah"

LOL Why do you think that was first?

And heyyyy, make a stand for what I believe in any time you like. 😛

Posted by MayDORISDay
But then is this ALWAYS going to be the case?

Yes

Posted by venusianbull
No, this will not always be the case. Trust that one, it's bank.

That is untrue ... a partner of a Virgo will always put forth more emotional effort.

A Virgo will do "things" ... but, not emotional support. Emotional support is something the partner of the Virgo will have to take responsibility for.


And that is bank, my dear.

Coming at this from my own experience P, you from yours.

I am not saying that all Virgos are alike, straight across the board. We all know that is a fallacy. I just know what clicked with my experience. And in my past relationship I was not the only one shouldering the give and he the take. Yes men 'do'. Some are quite comfortable with the words, some would rather put it into motion via job, providing and so on. He definitely had his quirks, as did/do I. I approached this from the standpoint of getting things rolling. Because when you have two people at stalemate there is no forward motion.

Posted by MayDORISDay
I can't tell him how I feel as he hasn't clarified his relationship status to me regardless of the fact he flirts with me and we have fun.

YES you can!

Posted by venusianbull
I am not saying that all Virgos are alike, straight across the board. We all know that is a fallacy.

And yet, there was no mention of the above when you originally said your opinion was bank.

Posted by P-Angel
No, this will not always be the case. Trust that one, it's bank.

That is untrue ... a partner of a Virgo will always put forth more emotional effort.



True, women are far more emotional then men, and if a man starts showing his emotional side then the woman would start thinking that he's a closet fag. Are you talking about the fact that virgos just tend to stick to routine, which leads their partner into an unemotional state of conscious? I think thats whats really going on...but i guess I'm totally off, as how you and several other people say haha.

A Virgo will do "things" ... but, not emotional support. Emotional support is something the partner of the Virgo will have to take responsibility for.

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Wait, a virgo will do things but not emotional support. So if I put my hand on my gals back when she's sad, and i began to rub her back and told her that everything is going to be alright then that wouldn't be emotional support? I remember doing this far too often...but who knows...

Absolutely correct. 100% .

I wasn't aware I needed an easel, a laser pointer and a pie chart for anyone to navigate through my words P. I speak rather plainly on the whole.

Oh yeah, happy birthday doris, and welcome to dxp; the home of the slave trade within the wheel of life. 😄

Posted by DyTryin


I'm married to a very passionate Scorpio, and she's yet to complain about her putting more than her fair share of emotion into our relationship.

It's only been a couple years, with babies present so quickly that there isn't time to consider anything except babies .. give it time, you'll hear it. And that is bank.

Ask the Libra .. surely she knows what I refer to.

Posted by DyTryin


But... she's mature enough to realize that Men in general are not overly emotional ...

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That is also not true, so her maturity or lack of, isn't relevant. Virgo men, in general are not overly emotional. Most of the men are emotional, except for maybe Aquas .. they are also as cold as Virgos when it comes to emotional nurturing.

Posted by venusianbull
I wasn't aware I needed an easel, a laser pointer and a pie chart for anyone to navigate through my words P. I speak rather plainly on the whole.

Show me in where it has been inferred that you don't speak plainly.

You can cut the bullshit.


Either you really got what I meant, or you are really that stupid.


You told ME that not all Virgos are the same, in such a tone to suggest that I was mistaken by saying my opinion based off of my experiences was in error .. this was the tone you took to make this suggestion .. this is why you mentioned that not all Virgos are the same .. for if you hadn't of meant that then there would be no need to even mention this.

My words to you were in place because you did the exact thing you attempted to preach to me about .. you made a general statement about Virgos, across the board and called it bank.

Again .. you either got that or you are really that stupid.

Either way, I don't give a rats ass about any person who pretends ... so you can go suck a mules dick for alls I care.


to author of this thread:

Bank = a Virgo does not provide emotional nurturing or security in a relationship. The partner of a Virgo is responsible. This is the whole reason why you are here this very moment trying to figure out what YOU HAVE TO DO .. because is not doing it.

P-angel rants about not carying about what people say, yet she attempts to convince and if not convinces, but starts belitting the opinion of venius.

haha, so intolerant, i sware.

That was neither inferred nor meant P. I do know that you will twist and manipulate whatever I say to suit yourself. And continue to pick snippets and random phrases out of context to further that. I am aware that you are married to a Virgo man, AS WAS I. For 13 years as a matter of fact.
Surely you are aware that you purposefully state things that are meant to lay the field for an argument. If you'd like to throw down with me, then I suggest you do so with fact. Not something you think you have a grasp on.
I am neither a fool, nor an idiot, and I'll thank you to never, ever again refer to me as such. I am a grown woman, and free to say anything I please. As is my RIGHT. As is YOUR right. You call me pretender. Because you know from a few paragraphs all that I am. What comfort it is to have all that knowledge of someone in your grasp.
For the record, I have never been attracted to mules. But I can, and most certainly DO spot a horses ass.

she\'s entitled to her opinion, its her perspective, so it doesn\'t really mean she\'s right its only her interpretation, and she says she doesn\'t care, so there shouldn\'t be any time writing anything in response to a full grown woman who has to use a bratish mentality in order to put people down, ah well.

I know Sorti, and I thank you.

Posted by venusianbull
I know Sorti, and I thank you.

Your welcome lady! 😄

How have you been...*must get off topic!!!!✨ hahaha

😄 Ohhh, you know. Non-stop craziness between work and more work. I had the oh-so-exciting chore of brushing most of winter out of my husky boys coat. Always a complete thrill. I could knit a sweater now. How have things been with you?

Hahaha damn jobs!!!!

Damn, you still dealing with the winter aftermath. 😢

It\'s hot as hell over here in california, but the weathers been having its mood swings. Its hot one day, raining during the next. But like everyone else, i plan on escaping the house as soon as work stops coming in, and i\'ll be spending more time with my babycakes, and pals.

Well, then if aren't stupid then it means you are pretending to be stupid .. congratulations, you're now a moron.



Dy .. four years? Wow. Still, you are wrong, you know. Non-Virgo-men are emotional. You just cannot see it because you are a Virgo.

Thank you crazydiamond! 🙂


Necessary evil Sorti m'man, necessary evil. This dog will continue to drop hair all summer long. And those dratted jobs, ahh well. The bills do no pay themselves unfortunately. It's been lovely here as far as that goes. 72?? today and sunny. When it swings into high summer then it's just muggy, could wring yourself out. The area here has 101 lakes surrounding 3 counties. Makes winter some interesting, the coldest was 40 below zero with wind chill. The whole family was camped around the woodstove.
Spending time with your babycakes and pals sound nice. Definitely escape the house, as often as you can.

As the author of this thread has realized, for it is the reason the thread is in existence .... she must initiate.



With a relationship with a Virgo, the other person having to initiate will always be. This has nothing to do with being male, for it is also true with female Virgos. Once prompted, they will follow the lead.


However, the Virgo will not lead their partner ... that, my dear is bank .. and what Venisbull told you was a lie to make you feel better, which she does often because she is superficial .... a pretender.



If you just want a hug, and a pat to feel better .. then she will stroke you.

If you want the truth .. then here it is ... if you hook up with this man, YOU will always be responsible for HIS emotional positioning in the union.

Doris..

your situation was the same dilemma as i had before with my virgo guy... and its been one year since i got the courage to finally speak up to him feelings... i told him i love him and he answered back i love u toooo.... that response of him made me feel comfortable and assured of his love.... though he really is not affectionate and emotional.... you ask he will answer back... you show him your love... he will be receptive... that is if he like what ur doing... but you see.... you might try to give it a try in telling how you feel for him... i just realize that being a male or female is not an issue whether who is to do the first move... what matters is that u were able to express ur feelings for him..... and if worst comes to worst.... he did not reciprocate.... let go.... at least u did ur part... and u will not regret because u gave ur all... its like a game... a game that should be taken seriously to win....winning with all ur heart

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Go through the threads on this board ...... ssdd

"its been one year since i got the courage to finally speak up to him feelings... i told him i love him and he answered back i love u toooo.... "


Partner leads ... Virgo follows



".... though he really is not affectionate and emotional.... "


Virgo not emotionally nurturing



"you ask he will answer back... you show him your love... he will be receptive..."



Partner leads ... Virgo follows








Got it?

yeah.... got it P!! its actually a support to what u have stated in the thread!! lol

As for my EXPERIENCE! I have had a virgo sister for 35 years. She is very unemotional and untouchy. Its just how MOST Virgos are I beleive. (not i didn't say ALL)


This message board is all about opinion and advice and noone has to agree with anyone elses. So maybe someone needs to calm down. (definitly not meaning mayDorisday at all)

i think P-Angel is correct. i don't understand the denial except for the fact that this sign can't take criticism/honest evaluation.

you can't on one hand claim to be a cerebral sign...to be the epitome of rational thought and at the same time declare yourself emotional. emotions are anything but rational and frankly, virgos are weirdos in this category as are aquas. her comparison to aqua males and virgo males is spot on.

to the OP, i agree, you will have to initiate. things with my VM bff are frankly weird. lately he's been saying things and they confuse the hell out of me. like he left me a VM and started singing the "sittin in a tree" diddy. he text me about our having kissed in the past and sarcastically added, but we're just bff's.

i had posted before about my confusion with regard to him because as VB has alluded and i'm sure you know, taurus doesn't respond to innuendo. you want me, subtle goes over my head. in order to know where i/we stand, i need a clear declaration.

to figure out whether or not there will be success, evaluate the friendship for what it is. does it feel like a relationship? does it have all the trappings of one without the title? if so, you're already there. just lay down the gauntlet.

what's funny is, with the aqua, it took like 9 months before he and i made it official and when he asked, i was honestly taken off guard. sure, we spoke almost everyday, he was courting me so to speak, but taurus is "slow." ironically, when i evaluate what has been occurring with my bff, it's the same thing. except it's been going on for like 5 years. weirdos.

Hmmm. I find men to be emotional, just good at cloaking quite well. Depends on the breeding and man though. Some are very open with their feelings, some withdrawn and some will be a mixture of both. So, I can only speak from what I've seen as far as signs. And none of it is bad, just different in each way. Random order, just to mess with you Virgos and all. 😉

Aries - Intensely emotional, in a Geico caveman way. Chest thumping and peeing on your leg is optional. ( Friends )
Taurus - Armor around closet romantic. Could love you till you die, but you'd not hear it. Showers, not talkers. ( Friends )
Pisces - Dream world. Their perception in their head, different from reality. Better live up, or "Lata". ( Father, Friends )
Aquarius - Intellectually intense, loyal in their way. ( Friends )
Scorpio - Fiercely emotional, moody, testing. ( Friends, one Scorp lover )
Capricorn - Again, battle gear up, pudding underneath. ( Friends )
Cancer - Very feeling, comes across as whiny at times. ( Friends, son )
Sagittarius - In your face, then seesya. ( Friends )
Leo - Emotional, underneath. Must look below the Fire. ( First lover, family, friends )
Libra - Wishy washy. Indecisive. Maddening. ( Lover )
Virgo - Emotional when stripped of super human analytical powers. ( Ex-husband )
Gemini - Quirky in emotions, but it's certainly there. ( Friends, family )

Exactly tubby. I don't like hints. If you want it, say it. Or I'll just jump because I can't take another moment of being in deadlock.

dy your list is illogical...and you're a virgo, go freakin figure! thus the revised list in correct order would be....

#1 - Fire Signs ~ Leo, Sagittarius, Aries

#2 - Earth Signs ~ Taurus, Capricorn, Virgo

#3 - Air Signs ~ Libra, Gemini, Aquarius

#4 - Water Signs ~ Pisces, Cancer, Scorpio

note where the opposite of each sign appears. if one is very emotional, the other is not. and then there are those who are in the middle, as is their opposite.

yep VB. if she wants him, she's definitely going to have to take the lead and the idea makes me shudder but hey, do what you gotta do. wish you luck May!

LOL *smh* Virgo does not make me shudder. But hey, whatever blows your kilt up.

Weird, if a virgo doesn\'t lead then he\'s unemotional. If a virgo leads, then he\'s overbearing.

Wheres the middle ground virgo?!?!??!

Wheres the middle ground taurus, leo, aqua, aries, scorpio, sag, and ect...

There is none on here you, and you sware that people would waste their time searching through websites on \"astrology\" to tell people how great their lover is. Why would they?

This is a site for people who have problems with their personal affairs. Just go look around other forums. There endless and countless of people talking about how unemotional or confusing their \"lovers\" are.

TItties christ, lord ol\' holy.

Posted by P-Angel
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Go through the threads on this board ...... ssdd

Should go through the thread on the pisces board to, and you'll see a shitload of crap that is much a like.

VB, virgo doesn't make me shudder, as a taurus, taking the lead in matters of the heart does.

sorti, you're missing the point. no one is proclaiming that the firsts in the above list are "better" at displaying emotion. it's the manner in which the emotions are displayed.

in this case, virgo displays emotion in a specific way (barring other chart placements). and what P-Angel has said is that in a relationship with a virgo, the lover needs to take the lead. it doesn't mean that they're taking the lead blindly. about to start another post...

Ahhh, I misunderstood what you wrote tubby. I take things so literally from time to time.

I agree with you Sorti, if we were all cookie cutter the world would be awfully damned boring. That would make me the same as USC, tubby, DaBull, Bella, etc, etc. And you the same as all the Virgo menfolk here and everywhere. Nope.