FFS - why can't we communicate— (Page 2)

i was going to start another post but i digress. at the end of the day, my virgo bff, despite his whorishness, has been an AMAZING friend and source of support. given his nature with other women, i constantly felt as if he was "up to something" and that he couldn't be trusted.

the truth is, he's been a better friend to me than most and like aqua, i think with virgo it's important to evaluate their actions...not their words. most women tend to need flowery words but hell, what do words matter when someone is in your corner 24-7?

for myself, my VM bff and i are friends and nothing but. but for other women who love a man of this sign, stop questioning what he's not saying and evaluate him based upon what he is doing. virgo men can be amazingly supportive and just because he doesn't tell you that you're the most beautiful woman in the world, doesn't mean he's not demonstrating that you just that.

this site is about understanding and understanding the love of weirdos often defies logic.

^you ARE just that

Posted by tubbyscubby


sorti, you're missing the point. no one is proclaiming that the firsts in the above list are "better" at displaying emotion. it's the manner in which the emotions are displayed.

in this case, virgo displays emotion in a specific way (barring other chart placements). and what P-Angel has said is that in a relationship with a virgo, the lover needs to take the lead. it doesn't mean that they're taking the lead blindly. about to start another post...

I understand what you are saying, but she states that each virgo will loose interest and it will become "bank."

I never lost interest in any of my relationships, but I was stupid and didn't make any great choices with the women i was with.

It works with you because it so happens that you are dealing with a similar type of person, I am not that same type of person, but she states that all are exactly alike, and i bet you agree, but I don't because i know virgos as much as you and she.

Posted by tubbyscubby


this site is about understanding and understanding the love of weirdos often defies logic.

Yup, and thats every problematic male in each zodiac sign, or life.

By loosing interest, become less and less emotionally involved, but she is right on some virgo\'s that i know.

sorti, i know that your sun sign has difficulty being evaluated. you're defensive and anything perceived in the negative is rejected on its face. READ what is being said.

with a virgo, words are bullshit. someone (pisces for example) can tell you that they "feel" immensely but what are feelings without a demonstration of those emotions. a virgo SHOWS you what they feel. it's very practical. it's "Earthy"...it's real. society tells us that it should be lofty and romantic. virgo is grounded, rational. virgo love is rational. there's nothing wrong with that so why are you disagreeing with what is actually a favorable reality?

Posted by tubbyscubby
sorti, i know that your sun sign has difficulty being evaluated. you're defensive and anything perceived in the negative is rejected on its face. READ what is being said.

with a virgo, words are bullshit. someone (pisces for example) can tell you that they "feel" immensely but what are feelings without a demonstration of those emotions. a virgo SHOWS you what they feel. it's very practical. it's "Earthy"...it's real. society tells us that it should be lofty and romantic. virgo is grounded, rational. virgo love is rational. there's nothing wrong with that so why are you disagreeing with what is actually a favorable reality?

Words are bullshit to most virgos. What I am trying to say that not all are the same. Like you said, the charts can really make a virgo a demanding love like having fire placements, but she's jumping off the topic and saying that all virgos become less emotionally involved to the point where the virgo is confusing.

But i guess your discussing this in terms of astrology. I'll be back to debate some more.

I don\'t agree because i dont do that, and some virgos i know aren\'t like that either, but everyones entitled to their opinion.

you're in denial. virog had trouble with criticism and that makes you as an individual, small and immature.

for 'mericans, ramen noodles are satisfying...everyday, all day. sometimes women want fillet mignon.

^virgo has...

lata

Posted by tubbyscubby
you're in denial.

If it makes you go to sleep, but i'm just going to stop with you because i forgot that you are entitled to an opinion, so i can't convince you that people are different not units.

virog had trouble with criticism and that makes you as an individual, small and immature.

Again...here we go, i don't agree with you so you start attacking me. How original.

for 'mericans, ramen noodles are satisfying...everyday, all day. sometimes women want fillet mignon.

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Sorry, your not funny. *tosses you aside*

sorti, no one wants to admit they're boring. i understand the resistance. reality is reality. look at it critically, rationally...it might make sense then 😛

*turns around to see who tubbys talking about* Are you talking about yourself? I think you are...Don\'t know what you are talking about, but i don\'t find your indirectness of pointing fingers at me very uncritical and unrational. Besides who would want to take you seriously. *looks back at DC comic thread* I understand, YOU are VERY BORING...watching adultswim and liking all those lame cartoons make you really cool for a tumor to admire. *begins laughing*

No wonder you are so negative on each sign that you write on because you only date losers and hang out with crummy people, but if...a person is to hang out with crummy people...and have shitty boyfriends...then that person is terd as well (thats logic), but I give you my condolences because I am a forgiving person (unlike your BFF), so you should be thanking me that I have said \"sorry\". 😄



I just wanted to defend the principle that not all virgos lose emotions with people (friends, lovers, family), but I guess people can\'t resist the fact that there are different sorts of people out there, but you are a very headstrong taurus right? That means you don\'t like difference because that means change, and if you do YOUR HEAD WOULD EXPLODE, and you didn\'t get the point...like usual, but its alright i forgive you. 😄

But its okay, continue telling me that I\'m boring, I\'ll bore you half to death, and i don\'t get why you have to try and put me down, but MAYBE its because your jealous that I\'m fucking sexy, and that my muscles are as strong as steel *starts smacking arms and chest* (starts flexing).

*YOu see this, you can\'t have this...*

Critical or rational*

Well, tubby, I\'m a bounce. I can\'t stay here for long...Its my day off and that means doing boring stuff with my boring friends. ;D

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MayDORIS

I\'m sorry for getting off topic. You have to remember that this guys is still in that relationship, or unless he has confirmed that it no longer matters. Until then he\'s just going to tempt you, so thats a probable reason why he hasn\'t really made any verbal confirmation.

didn't you bitch out after i ripped you a new and delete your account once already?

ta!

My account was already going to be terminated, it just deleted the same time you came around. I think you got it confused with somebody else, but whatever...I like a good conspiracy theory.

whatever you lying little twat. you found that hitler clip funny. i called you out on and you dipped out. shut it!

now go play with your weirdos.

out!

Oh lord, hahaha!

I thought scorpios were bad, this is clear evidence that you are psychotic.

*pictures tubby yelling at the monitor*

Bumpetta bump this mo fo.

Hello folks and thank you for all your replies and banter.

Developments:

Oh my word, you'll love this. Let me tell you a story...

So my birthday night, 10 months of building this (percieved) close friendship that I thought had intimate lurve potential, and I can't take it anymore. I have to tell him, I have to tell him how I feel, or I'll burst. Sod the consequences, let's do this.......

With the aid of a drink. And another, and another, and maybe one more.

(Did I mention he's TT...baaaaaad move)

After a small gathering of cake and chat and presetns, I went to his, we played scrabble, chatted, hung out, as we do regularly, nothing untoward...and I decide my lubricated state is the one to tell him in.

Perhaps I was attacking him too much, but I accused him of leading me on. After all, if he's not to know I like him after 10 months of support, gift giving, continuous attention, then he's obvisouly a total spazmoid, surely— He now attests that he didn't know. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I then query as to why he is sexually suggestive towards me (which has been demonstrated towards other people), he says it's his way. I still maintain that informing someone you will be going down on them in the future amidst intimate candelight dinner is possibly not the best way to flirt, esepcially with a love lorn friend, but I admit he is like that with other girls. Quite why, is only known to him. I find it incredibly inappropriate.

Ultimately he turned aggressive, which is not what I was expecting at all, and though he informed me I was shaggable (so he would—), that was all that was said before he uttered something that upset me, I didn't want him to see me cry, so I left....rather dramatically returning with the pearler "Well good luck on finding a relationship that isn't born from a friendship". Harumph.

I went home cried my eyes out and wrote vitriloic poetry. As you do. My ego was totally obliterated for around 3 days. I informed him by voice mail that 'I don't regret what I said, it's a shame it couldn't be executed or discussed with less aggression and that I hoped it wouldn't be too awkward when our paths crossed again. Drama ensued, and I kept my head down, thinking things over.

He replied on text immediately informing me that he was sad that it had come to this, and that our friendship is incredibly important to him........

Since then I've worked things through in my head a little. He hasn't said at any point he doesn't see me 'that way'. I texted him yesterday as I wasn't ready to speak to him.

Here's the transcript, perhaps you can help me see what I can't see (obviously this whole episode has made me question my dillusionment):

Me:
Ello I'm not ready to ring you yet. I'm still incredibly hurt but the anger is waning. Now I'm confused how this can be salvaged - if that is still your hope. Ultimately the tenderness I felt for you has gone. So that's where I'm at, where are you at? Maybe we can solve this together x

Him:
Thanks for getting in touch, been thinking about you a lot. To be honest I was kind of hoping things would just go back to the way they were. You know with ushanging out together and having fun and being close. But i'm realising that there's a whole lot of stuff you're processing that I wasn't even aware of. I can't quite get my head around you being angry with me. In fact this makes me slightly angry. But if that's the way you feel, then that's the way it is. I absolutely want us to stay close and I hope we can. Thinking of you, just call when you want x

Me:
We should chat about this face to face, neutral place shix, face to face, without the anger, obivsouly. I still maintain your flirtaciousness confused me, and I think my anger is born from feeling teased, but as long as you know my sensitivty reacts badly to this (especiall as I'm frustrated as buggery), then maybe we can be play mates again. My this is incredibly adult x

Him:
Yes it is very adult isn't it? Almost as if we were two intelligent people in our thirties. And |I'm sorry you felt teased. And I have to say I'm a bit confused that you would think I'd get a kick out of that. But yea. Face to face. Speak soon x


I am giving myself another week to suss this out. Is this all really worth it? Is there any possibility? Am I being played?

I just don't understand, and my judgement is usually spot on....

What does he want from me——

pfft...sounds like my virgo bff chicky. i totally get where you're at. to feel really connected but confused. unfortunately, you feel something for yours 😢

out of curiosity, does he have a lot of aqua/sag in his chart? if so, he won't be settling down any time soon.

i knew i had read this somewhere.

check out - http://sasstrology.com/2007/01/will-virgo-man-commit.html/comment-page-2#comments

maybe some of the comments there will be helpful too

Just to edit the first post. I approached him with the line 'So if I was to start seeing someone how would you feel?'....

He'd apparently be fine with it, but I said I'd feel disloyal going round to his all the time and sharing intimate moments.

Thanks Tubby

No he hasn't. He's got leo in Venus and a lot a taurus. Virgo mercury.

i dunno. just sounds like my bff and 5 years later that man still baffles the shit out of me. good luck. maybe some of the VM can tell you what the hell he's doing becuz tbh, the hell if i know. they're confusing fuckers.

i'd say that right now though, he just wants to be friends. you might be his ideal mate and he's behaving as if you are. if i were you, i'd pay attention to his actions. is he with other women? dating other women?