I can't take Virgo men seriously in relationships.

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Well, like SOOO MANY women on this forum, I have my own experience w/a Virgo male who I had a deep spiritual like connection with. But, he did the typical in/out, hot/cold, here/gone thing that they do when they're "deliberating" or scared, & of course, the relationship got derailed...only to have him try to "put things right" by reappearing again (4 months later) & begging for a 2nd chance. Lol. There's usually a good reason for his disappearances, but honestly, the very thing they fear is what they end up manifesting: not being taken seriously & looking like total flakes who don't have their sh*t together. C'mon...mean what U say, & say what U mean, & stick to it! Don't tuck tail & RUN EVERTIME U feel challeneged or vulnerable & expect things to have not changed...they so want the "upper hand" they don't realize they lose their ground by their own wishy washiness.

As a Libra who has a Pisces equivalent (Rabbit), I AM a very loyal and generous lover/companion, & am very expressive (which probably scares Virgo men), but hell, life's too SHORT to waste time on always being scared to live your desires! And NO! I am NOT a needy, selfless "nit wit" who can't stand her own ground just because I am "true blue" & will give my best for love (as so many other women will try to imply because they're more into playing "the game", & I DON'T WASTE my precious time on friggin' GAMES!). I have just learned that, although I can feel a deep spiritual connection w/someone, if THEY don't follow through, no matter what, I can't take them seriously & they aren't worth my love. I'll try my best, for the sake of love, but, I just can't take Virgo men's vascillating seriously (no matter how much explaining they do).
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I bet you five bucks they were born in September.

Just look at the post by virgoking and cajunspirit they will tell you that they have no problem being completely alone, and isolated from society, and they will remain happy. You mix this personality into a relationship of any kind and there will always be an error.

I guess I can say that you are the needy type because you are loyal and generous lover, but I will not stigmatize needy as how everyone considers that term, rather i consider needy equally as strong as devoted and ardent.

Simply, these Virgos are great on their own, alas, they need people who are busybodies rather than romantic figures.
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Posted by Kellanna

I AM a very loyal and generous lover/companion, & am very expressive (which probably scares Virgo men), but hell, life's too SHORT to waste time on always being scared to live your desires! And NO! I am NOT a needy, selfless "nit wit" who can't stand her own ground just because I am "true blue" & will give my best for love (as so many other women will try to imply because they're more into playing "the game", & I DON'T WASTE my precious time on friggin' GAMES!). I have just learned that, although I can feel a deep spiritual connection w/someone, if THEY don't follow through, no matter what, I can't take them seriously & they aren't worth my love. I'll try my best, for the sake of love, but, I just can't take Virgo men's vascillating seriously (no matter how much explaining they do).








Now that's the shit I've been talking about around here !!!!

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Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
I bet you five bucks they were born in September.

Just look at the post by virgoking and cajunspirit they will tell you that they have no problem being completely alone, and isolated from society, and they will remain happy. You mix this personality into a relationship of any kind and there will always be an error.

I guess I can say that you are the needy type because you are loyal and generous lover, but I will not stigmatize needy as how everyone considers that term, rather i consider needy equally as strong as devoted and ardent.

Simply, these Virgos are great on their own, alas, they need people who are busybodies rather than romantic figures.



ima busybody 2 u kno ima full virgo hehehe i dont need to be around people to make me happy cuz im happy with myself plus my money lol.
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Posted by everevolvingepithet

Spiritual people by nature are flaky and too changeable when faced with reality/a situation presenting fact not fantasy.






So, in this theory, how can a person follow through, no matter what?


Posted by Kellanna

I can feel a deep spiritual connection w/someone, if THEY don't follow through, no matter what, I can't take them seriously & they aren't worth my love.

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And actually, if people aren't changing their beliefs, then how are they spiritually growing?

'What are you waiting for, Mr. Frodo, just let it go. Throw it in the fire."


Thanks for clarifying that, Samwise Gamgee ** remembering the taste of strawberries **
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Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
I bet you five bucks they were born in September.

Just look at the post by virgoking and cajunspirit they will tell you that they have no problem being completely alone, and isolated from society, and they will remain happy. You mix this personality into a relationship of any kind and there will always be an error.



Hahaahaha

You gots to remember though, she is projecting her feelings about the relationship. The whole "spiritual" thing.
There is no guarantee the guy ever felt the same way.

I'd love to know which decan he is though 😛
When is his birthday?
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LOL! I knew I'd probably get some people's gander up with this post, but hey, it's all a matter of perspective. It's not a waste of time to open a discussion...if it were, none of YOU would be here "wasting your time" to post a reply, or even to READ this! 😉 Don't get too snippity. Lol

As far as Libras are concerned 25th Decan, No I was not "flaky" as U imply, but I was very sincere...he was too, by the emails & what HE SAID by getting more affectionate with his words (ie blowing kisses, preparing to drive up to WA to meet me for my bday, all of which he totally FLAKED out on w/no explanation til 4 mos later), & wouldn't even say thank U for the pics of the festival we were at that I'd sent him. So, looks to me like Virgos take, but they give only when it's "convenient" for them, then disappear, justify their actions with some excuse to cover up THEIR FLAKINESS, or "mutableness", & hope/expect your feelings haven't changed & there still may be a chance to try again...lol. WTF!

Yes, he was born in September(interestingly enough). So, Sorti-pony, if Sept born Virgos R so happy being isolated & loners, why the hell even BOTHER to sound sincere about a relationship— He made the advances BOTH times @ wanting to pursue one with me. Sounds pretty FLAKY to me if you're gonna pursue someone & then flake out & claim you need your "space" by not bothering to communicate & doing the HOT/COLD routine, only to come back weeks/months later when YOU conveniently feel like it...sounds pretty darn selfish to me.

You gotta at LEAST let someone you want to be IN a relationship with know you're still IN their life somehow, & habitual silence doesn't cut it.

A relationship involves giving, otherwise, why bother? That's my point. Just go and be alone if you want to be, & don't pretend you can offer a relationship w/someone if you're gonna be gone mentally/emotionally most of the time...makes no friggin' sense. Lol No, I'm not "needy"-I do actually enjoy my alone time too, & never am the type to tell my partner he "can't go here/there, or do this/that" if he has different interests than mine-we all need our personal time too, but this legendary Virgo HOT/COLD thing is a WHOLE other mess....I'm a giver in a relationship, & I guess from the sounds of MOST posts by others online, Virgo men are mostly "takers" who give when it's convenient, or enough to "keep you hanging". It's a common enough thread to become a "characteristic" that's well known.
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I bet you five bucks they were born in September.

You gots to remember though, she is projecting her feelings about the relationship. The whole "spiritual" thing.
There is no guarantee the guy ever felt the same way.

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There are only three key factors to spirituality: Awareness, directness and growth.

She says that she has become aware of this virgo, so started to sense a directness from him to grow from, but he takes off which leaves her to these dead-ins because she is like many of these women: Needy.

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Oh yeah, as far as the "spiritual" connection I was talking about, no this is not religious cr@p I'm talking about...what I mean is an all encompassing connection. U know, when U just feel so at ease w/someone, like you've known them a long time, yet you've just met. That rarely ever happens to me. And yes, he claimed he felt it too by saying he really enjoyed me & wanted to pursue more with me...no denying there was something there besides what's in our sexual nature. No, this spiritual type connection doesn't evolve with such fickleness because it involves our core beliefs/values/experiences, even on a subconcious level...that's why we can feel so at ease with someone we have only just met. 🙂
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Kellanna there have been threads on a Virgo's need to please others and give of everything they can offer to friends, family, loved ones or complete strangers too. The only thing I "take" is the natural need to hear some form of appreciation or acknowledgement. Not much to ask when I'm mowing your lawn for free, always letting you choose the movie, buying or making you dinner, complimenting you about your size or style or smile and on and on. Not alot of taking in my book.
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@ Sorti-pony: don't get hung up on WORD definitions...spiritual can take on different meanings, not just yours. 😉

What's with this "needy" label? Gimme a break! Don't we all have "needs"? I'd say if U needed your "independence & freedom" then YOU are "needy" & selfishly "take" from others by acting like U don't care, only coming around when you WANT something. Just different "needs", so I guess we're all "needy" in our own way. Like I said, I like my independence also, but what it comes down to is respect-& the hot/cold thing is not respectful. People only focus on ONE THING instead of looking at the whole picture, which is short-sighted. "Needy"...BAH...LOL
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Yes, he was born in September(interestingly enough). So, Sorti-pony, if Sept born Virgos R so happy being isolated & loners, why the hell even BOTHER to sound sincere about a relationship— He made the advances BOTH times @ wanting to pursue one with me. Sounds pretty FLAKY to me if you're gonna pursue someone & then flake out & claim you need your "space" by not bothering to communicate & doing the HOT/COLD routine, only to come back weeks/months later when YOU conveniently feel like it...sounds pretty darn selfish to me.



If they are in love with themselves then they will be extremely selfish, which means they only want people like you for the sake of themselves. I was about to consider this dilemma as their contradiction for being lonely and then wanting to make people happy, but so far all i get to read in this forum are chicks who constantly ponder why these guys jump out of situations when they are most needed for them. I now say they only do this for selfishness, but if they want to be with somebody IT WILL HAVE TO BE WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS EQUALLY AS [LONELY] and [SELFISH] as themselves. The next time a woman comes in here complimenting how great their Virgo's are who are born in sept (probably september 3-10) then maybe you'll come to understand that they themselves are just like them... who knows!

(This is not a bias this is an observation) To be honest with you, I hardly get anything negative to read about later sept. guys (11th-18th) or aug.(26-2nd) guys, unless it is to question how quickly these guys have come to make up their mind on being with them in surprise to the amount of post they see on this forum or from astrology in general....



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Posted by Kellanna
@ Sorti-pony: don't get hung up on WORD definitions...spiritual can take on different meanings, not just yours. 😉



Anything intangible is hard to explain, and the more you attempt to explain it, the more it sounds peculiar...

What's with this "needy" label? Gimme a break! Don't we all have "needs"? I'd say if U needed your "independence & freedom" then YOU are "needy" & selfishly "take" from others by acting like U don't care, only coming around when you WANT something. Just different "needs", so I guess we're all "needy" in our own way. Like I said, I like my independence also, but what it comes down to is respect-& the hot/cold thing is not respectful. People only focus on ONE THING instead of looking at the whole picture, which is short-sighted. "Needy"...BAH...LOL
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maybe you just found your answer. 🙂
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@ OP3: Yes, I do appreciate that self-sacrificing Virgo need, but this is the down side of it. This happens a LOT. They impress you with their magnanimous personality, you think they're truly special, they want to pursue a relationship w/U, U agree, it's great for a while, then suddenly, BAM! They've disappeared for weeks/months for some reason, then come back...yes, there's reasons, & no, I'm not saying ALL VIRGOS are total FLAKES, but it's kind of cruel to make such an impression on someone, then suddenly w/out any consideration, just drop off the face of the earth reappearing when you feel like it. I really thought highly of this man who did such an unselfish thing for me @ a very dangerous time (almost got mugged/abducted), but this hot/cold stuff, that MANY others, not just ME, have complained about is a common VIRGO downfall...they build themselves up only to let themselves fall flat. Kinda disappointing...sort of like an anti-climax. Lol
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@MrSorty and other virgos as well:
since you're preparing for an important step in your life,can you tell what will make it differrent? The life with your lady is easier and better
Men don't like to get older i know and that "forever" sounds so "static" and yet...
i guess for yoyr forever commitment the most important were:
you as a mature man,an alingment of the purposes of both of you ,you doing something that is greater than yourself
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
"I really thought highly of this man who did such an unselfish thing for me @ a very dangerous time (almost got mugged/abducted)"
Rare is a guy that does this sort of thing these days, and you want more ?
lmfao
You should go all the way over to him, if you get 100% rejection, chalk it up to experience .



I know right? Are we watching "The Bodyguard" or something?
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@ everplanet: LOL...well, "needs" is exactly that...NEEDS, whether it's for personal space, independence, affection, respect, acknowledgement, etc. To label someone who has only certain PARTICULAR NEEDS as "needy" is one sided because independence is a "need" too, & can be considered "selfish"...."clingy" only happens when certain needs aren't met, as well as ignoring or distancing when certain other needs aren't met....both can be considered "negative" reactions...we ALL have needs...it's just a matter of how much of what you need.

What I'm talking about here is giving the wrong impressions, & not being forthright...it's open for discussion...I don't feel I'm wasting my time talking about this...none of you feel it's a "waste of time" to be here on DXP either...we all are here for validation/understanding/debate, or even to feel we can somehow assert ourselves & try to sound superior to someone else by labeling them...sometimes what we fear the most is what we are..."needy".... 😉 Actions speak louder than words.
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@ everplanet: correction...HE wanted MORE...I wanted friendship/stay buddies...HE asked for more...lol.

Uh, no, I happen to appreciate good deeds & don't fantasize them into some fairy tale...I truly value them, 'cuz he didn't have to do what he did. And, there we go again..."inner goddess"..."center of the Universe"...lol...uhhh, Nooo...it's called doing what's "decent", & the Virgo hot/cold thing is not....it has nothing to do with some accusatory "self-obsession"....I'd say you were "self-obsessed" by trying to sound right about everything, but I think it's just a strategy you use to try to validate yourself. I'm not saying ALL Virgo men are like this (hence I'm WRONG about some), but a darn good deal are, & that's the discussion. Lol 😉
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Posted by quo vadis?
@MrSorty and other virgos as well:
since you're preparing for an important step in your life,can you tell what will make it differrent? The life with your lady is easier and better



I lived on my own as an independent since the nineteen-eighties, nineties and the two-thousands, but I'm with my better half now, which i have known for the past five years. If you want to know a bit about me then I lived on my own after college, so I had my own house for my own pleasure. I dated several women, and I never flaking out on them, yet we have parted ways due to changes in beliefs, values and so fourth. In fact, I treated them with ardor, and i don't regret my sincerity to past-lovers because love is like life it is a learning experience. I am quite idealistic, and when i meet the woman who meets the qualities that i worship, I go for the kill, but I learned not to devote myself to people completely because i learned that life lesson quickly before I harmed myself. Ah well, life goes on.

I tend to be pamper-some to my gal and to myself (selfish, hell yeah!), and i have not cared enough to be a prick to weigh my service onto them as a choir, yet she has to deal with my moods... 😉

Men don't like to get older i know and that "forever" sounds so "static" and yet...
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it is true. I know divorced men who remarry, but they usually marry younger women because... that is just how it is, but they also marry the same woman they divorced. In all of honesty, they should cultivate communication and some method to fall back on when emotional times gets tough...

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@ ...epithet...H.A.L.? Well, I guess he was being "needy" if he wanted more? Pfft...I don't wanna use that word really 'cuz it's kinda meaningless...we all have needs. But, yeah, it's like making a big to do, rallying up the audience, & THEN... *crickets*.....lol...wth!? Where'd he go? Lol. It's kinda funny in that light actually...hahahaha...

@ Layna: No, I'm not "mad" @ him for doing this disappearing thing AGAIN, lol, it's just such a common thing with Virguys & it's interesting to discuss it since it's a bit drastic & "abnormal", & I've only heard maybe a FEW comments from people so far that shed some light on this unusual behavior...the rest is mostly the "girls are needy", "you're being selfish", "you're self-obsessed", "Women vs. Men" sort of thing...BAH! I just think the BEHAVIOR is open for discussion...how we approach our relationships is a whole other story because nobody ELSE knows ALL the details & what's involved, so the "labeling" falls flat.
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@...epithet: Yes, they are agenda driven...there are actually many qualities that I find attractive in some Virgos, but a downside is the back & forth stuff...it could be good if they'd just be more forthright & stop the habitual disappearing acts...but, Layna's right about the kind of women who suit them best...there can be a strong initial attraction but that doesn't equate to you being good for each other. Just think the behavior's a bit extreme, so I wanted to open a discussion on it. 🙂
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ROFL! @ OP3! My god that's funny!! 😉 well, they say how a person dresses can tell U about the person's approach to life, from a psychological analysis...not just "opinion"...

@25th Decan: I never said ALL VIRGOS are FLAKY...just like not ALL LIBRAS are SUPERFICIAL...of course some are...I know how each sign can be, including my own, when it comes to weak points, but, as with any weakness, if we're conciously aware of them, we can actually work to make them a strength...ie, wishy washiness/become more decisive, shyness/social outreaching...no one wants to be hurt, but it's the chance you take in search of a satisfying, trustworthy relationship. Bottom line is: be honest & forthright with yourself & with others...it'll come back to you if you're not. And it is a discussion...your opinion is open for consideration too...I was just gonna visit the Libra's are flakes discussion, or something like that, to read what brought that on...Lol... 😉
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@ 25th Decan: "Libra girls...bend over...Ha!"...You've just demonstrated the definition of the word: DOUCHE, the very word you don't want to be called! HA! Lol

If you don't like me winking @ you, you're more than welcome to get off my post... 😉 Lol

If you can't take the faults of your OWN sign, that says VOLUMES about you...insecure & needing to justify everything...why not just chalk it up to this guy was just an example of the Virgo downside, instead of trying to defend his bad behavior? Unless you are just like him & take it personally... lol. 😉
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You know, bashing ( whilst most liberating from time to time ) is not really my cup of tea. You fell in love with the man, yes? One can but assume at any rate. So if we follow that logic down to its natural conclusion then there is much good there with what is *bad*. Correct? I could hop on a soap box of epic proportions and slander Virgo until the cows came home, but I'd rather not.

Keep on, keeping on OP. Just tossing those two shiny pennies in the well.
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And if I'd finish a thought to completion, that might be refreshing in its own right. ( cont ) Because it is ONE man being discussed. Not every Virgo on planet. See now, I could take every one of my ex-hubs' foibles and snap them on out, pin them and let them line dry, but why? And, I'm spent. Have a lovely night everyone, be sure to tip your server.
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@ 25th Decan: OOPS! LOL...I DID misread that comment about the "Doosh"-HELL, I was running inbetween clients & only got the "gist" of it, & misunderstood it. Sorry 'bout that. I'm not mad, and YES, I want a COOKIE!! Lol I'll take UR comment about Libras bending over as a compliment...LOL...I know we can drive some men crazy sexually. Just get straight to the point, 'cuz flirting can make U go nuts! No pun intended... 😉 Can't help winking, & can't help "living in my head"...I'm a friggin' Libra for god's sakes! Lol

Yeah, he's a doosh, but remember, I never said ALL VIRGO MEN, or even ALL MEN, R like that...I really just wanted to explore probable causes for the behavior, which I found quite abnormal, so I guess it provoked a bit "abnormal" conversation thread too...it's all in exploration. If someone's mad @ Libras for being superficial & flighty, like U pointed out some ways in which they are, I AGREE. They CAN be! And I can tell U why too. Most likely it's because Libras like to "intellectualize" things, & they are "self-preservationists" so they may not actually DO the things they get excited about, but they could TELL you almost every angle there is about it! Lol. We are often misunderstood and labeled ourselves as "flaky", "flighty", or "superficial"...we are into the energetic weaving of things(it has it's own value), & the exploration of understanding. We like to have fun. Sorry the Libras U knew were flaky...some Virgos can be too for their own reasons(some say it's reticence to be vulnerable & a need for self-containment)...just trying to understand behaviors from an astrological viewpoint.

I understand one cannot speak for ALL, just like I couldn't answer for all women or Libras, but I can offer my INSIGHTS, w/out taking it personally. I'm not trying to bash here...I certainly did engage some & offered a chance to explain probable causes from a more intimate viewpoint (same sign)...it is what it is...he's a doosh, Virgo or not, lol. 😉

Thanks for all your feedback! Had some very interesting insights on it! That's why I take the chance @ being "bashed" myself & post a discussion thread. 🙂
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Cont'd @ 25thDecan: And no, I don't mind U joking on my post...I shouldn't read stuff while I'm rushing...& the winking thing...uhmmm, that was a sarcastic joke...& the ranting, lol, aw hell, don't "read & rush" cuz I didn't take time to understand the context, made assumption U were mad & really didn't have time 'cuz I was working...okay, all clear now...whew! Better... 🙂) Sorry 4 the misunderstandings...lol
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