july66
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Leo woman and Virgo Man ...will it ever work
july66 .. I'll try to give you some things to think about from the Virgo perspective and how they process relationships/life, though, I am not one, so this is from an observers position.
First of all .. a relationship that ends, is a complete failure to them. Unlike many others, who can just walk away .. the Virgo, will spend a gross amount of time .. worrying, fretting, stressing .. why, why, why, why .. what did I do, could I have said that differently, why doesn't she love me .. on, and on. Certainly, everybody struggles with gaining perspective after a relationship has ended, but, for the Virgo, they CANNOT let go so easily within their mind.
As you've noticed .. once you started asking questions, he shut down. This is quite normal for a Virgo. To understand this, you have to view it through Virgo logic .. everything has it's place, their minds are organized, routine, it's like a machine with it's gears running, in-tuned and oiled .. then, bam! Human's are unpredictable .. it throws them into overload .. human emotions do NOT fit within the finely organized and effecient system.
So, keeping this in mind .. it's like a failed system within THEM.
It's not like the rest of us, who can so easily come to terms and get past a divorce .. for a Virgo to end a relationship takes, sometimes, years. They have failed, and this isn't acceptable to them, for they've spent a life-time putting all the pieces together and everything was running smoothly.
If this man says he cares about you, and you know in your heart that they two of you were growing/bonding .. then, I wouldn't give up hope for a relationship. However, you are going to have to prepare yourself for the fact that he might NEVER reveal to you what went wrong in his marriage. Furthermore, if you two do get to being close partners, he will never forget about the wrench that was thrown into his systems and clog up his gears from his ex and will always be leary if he sees signs of this with you.
Virgo's are notorious for clamming up and not communicating, and all the time we get people in here complaining that their Virgo pulled away and won't TALK to them .. so, I just don't want you to think that it's something you have done to make him shut-down. This is perfectly normal for Virgo's.
Here's something to think about ... if a Virgo isn't interested in you, then they don't pull away .. if a Virgo shuts down, then they are interested.
It's sort of the opposite of other signs ..
First of all .. a relationship that ends, is a complete failure to them. Unlike many others, who can just walk away .. the Virgo, will spend a gross amount of time .. worrying, fretting, stressing .. why, why, why, why .. what did I do, could I have said that differently, why doesn't she love me .. on, and on. Certainly, everybody struggles with gaining perspective after a relationship has ended, but, for the Virgo, they CANNOT let go so easily within their mind.
As you've noticed .. once you started asking questions, he shut down. This is quite normal for a Virgo. To understand this, you have to view it through Virgo logic .. everything has it's place, their minds are organized, routine, it's like a machine with it's gears running, in-tuned and oiled .. then, bam! Human's are unpredictable .. it throws them into overload .. human emotions do NOT fit within the finely organized and effecient system.
So, keeping this in mind .. it's like a failed system within THEM.
It's not like the rest of us, who can so easily come to terms and get past a divorce .. for a Virgo to end a relationship takes, sometimes, years. They have failed, and this isn't acceptable to them, for they've spent a life-time putting all the pieces together and everything was running smoothly.
If this man says he cares about you, and you know in your heart that they two of you were growing/bonding .. then, I wouldn't give up hope for a relationship. However, you are going to have to prepare yourself for the fact that he might NEVER reveal to you what went wrong in his marriage. Furthermore, if you two do get to being close partners, he will never forget about the wrench that was thrown into his systems and clog up his gears from his ex and will always be leary if he sees signs of this with you.
Virgo's are notorious for clamming up and not communicating, and all the time we get people in here complaining that their Virgo pulled away and won't TALK to them .. so, I just don't want you to think that it's something you have done to make him shut-down. This is perfectly normal for Virgo's.
Here's something to think about ... if a Virgo isn't interested in you, then they don't pull away .. if a Virgo shuts down, then they are interested.
It's sort of the opposite of other signs ..
He is just in the ?bad mood?.
If you want to save your relationship, offer him ?remote support? but that's all.
If you want to save your relationship, offer him ?remote support? but that's all.
What to do?
Email or text him and tell him that you've planned a date of fun.
Make it something you know he would be interested in and enjoy. Make sure it's light and stressfree. While with him, don't bring up anything about his past .. don't ask any questions. Just give yourself to him for the day, as though you two are looking forward, instead of backwards.
DON'T LOOK BACKWARDS .. or, he'll go into shut-down mode again.
The whole point of this date, is for him to see that you are accepting that he has issues in which are his alone to sort out, and that you understand that he isn't going to share them with you (don't say that to him though).
Make him aware by the way you are still standing by his side (without words), that eventhough he may have failed with his wife .. he won't with you because you know what you want .. and it IS him.
Don't worry .. once the date is over and he sees that it doesn't matter to you that he is a failure and that you want him anyway .. he will acknowledge this.
Virgo's think they are failures, already .... our aim (Virgo partners) is to make them know that they aren't to us.
Email or text him and tell him that you've planned a date of fun.
Make it something you know he would be interested in and enjoy. Make sure it's light and stressfree. While with him, don't bring up anything about his past .. don't ask any questions. Just give yourself to him for the day, as though you two are looking forward, instead of backwards.
DON'T LOOK BACKWARDS .. or, he'll go into shut-down mode again.
The whole point of this date, is for him to see that you are accepting that he has issues in which are his alone to sort out, and that you understand that he isn't going to share them with you (don't say that to him though).
Make him aware by the way you are still standing by his side (without words), that eventhough he may have failed with his wife .. he won't with you because you know what you want .. and it IS him.
Don't worry .. once the date is over and he sees that it doesn't matter to you that he is a failure and that you want him anyway .. he will acknowledge this.
Virgo's think they are failures, already .... our aim (Virgo partners) is to make them know that they aren't to us.
There you go.. advices from the inept Virgo experts?!
Lol
And good luck..
Lol
And good luck..
Simple question to these lamers?
If you are such a good analysers/advisers, then whey don't you use your own prescriptions for your own affair?
If you are such a good analysers/advisers, then whey don't you use your own prescriptions for your own affair?
whey=why
july66,
My Leo Mom and Virgo Dad were a terrific couple - very loving, passionate, and crazy about each other. Frankly, I don't know how Mom did it -- my Dad is even more of a Virgo than I am! -- but I do know their courtship had lots of fits and starts (mainly due to Him!)...
I see no problem with you e-mailing / texting the VirGuy -- just to touch base, and see if he'll respond to you. Depending on his age, and how typical a Virgo he is, it's gonna be a tough couple of months getting something started with him -- lots of ladies give up, and I don't blame them...
My Scorp almost gave up on me, and we work in the same building, and had a connecting network of coworkers and friends to help things along...
Good Luck!!
~DyarStra?e
Have patience with this guy if you really like him! I'm with a Virgo and here are a few things I can tell ya.
DON'T
Nag
Yell
Go on and on about the same bs
The more you criticize him, he'll never want to share a conversation with you
Stress so much towards him... it will push him away!
Give him all your personal information and drama... if he's interested, he'll let you know
DO'S
Be confident
Let him know that his opinion is just important as yours
Praise him
Take him to the Zoo and rent a funny/scary movie for that evening
Give him a blowjob 😉
DON'T
Nag
Yell
Go on and on about the same bs
The more you criticize him, he'll never want to share a conversation with you
Stress so much towards him... it will push him away!
Give him all your personal information and drama... if he's interested, he'll let you know
DO'S
Be confident
Let him know that his opinion is just important as yours
Praise him
Take him to the Zoo and rent a funny/scary movie for that evening
Give him a blowjob 😉
i think LeoVirgoRising tips are spot on! oh that i could live by those few simple rules.
get in touch with the guy, for goodness sake. he may be wanting you to contact him. if you cant be a good friend to a virgo, and simply call to ask how they are doing, they sure as heck dont want you as a lover. that is of course after any initial sexual attraction has faded. (not saying this is your case, sounds like the 2 of you are developing a "connection".)
when virgo makes a mental connection, they want to keep it...they have shared a part of themself with you. they are protective, they want to keep that part of themselves that is now in your heart safe. they want to have the highest regard for you (i.e. no talking about other fellas) they like to see what they have shared w/you reflected back to them in a positive light. leo virg rise has that right, if you can do that, you are pretty much stuck with them.
you say he persued you, so....he let you know he was interested already. i bet he's thinking/worrying about you now too...."why hasnt she called? what did i do wrong?"
note PA's reference to him believing he is a failure in relationships. also "Furthermore, if you two do get to being close partners, he will never forget about the wrench that was thrown into his systems and clog up his gears from his ex and will always be leary if he sees signs of this with you." so true!
and qbone's (hey Q, my B/F is a 47 year old sept 14th) ?remote support? but that's all." that's right too, no smothering and questions about why no contact.
keep it simple, what would you do if this situation were with a same sex friend?
good luck :0)
get in touch with the guy, for goodness sake. he may be wanting you to contact him. if you cant be a good friend to a virgo, and simply call to ask how they are doing, they sure as heck dont want you as a lover. that is of course after any initial sexual attraction has faded. (not saying this is your case, sounds like the 2 of you are developing a "connection".)
when virgo makes a mental connection, they want to keep it...they have shared a part of themself with you. they are protective, they want to keep that part of themselves that is now in your heart safe. they want to have the highest regard for you (i.e. no talking about other fellas) they like to see what they have shared w/you reflected back to them in a positive light. leo virg rise has that right, if you can do that, you are pretty much stuck with them.
you say he persued you, so....he let you know he was interested already. i bet he's thinking/worrying about you now too...."why hasnt she called? what did i do wrong?"
note PA's reference to him believing he is a failure in relationships. also "Furthermore, if you two do get to being close partners, he will never forget about the wrench that was thrown into his systems and clog up his gears from his ex and will always be leary if he sees signs of this with you." so true!
and qbone's (hey Q, my B/F is a 47 year old sept 14th) ?remote support? but that's all." that's right too, no smothering and questions about why no contact.
keep it simple, what would you do if this situation were with a same sex friend?
good luck :0)
I want to say Thanks! to everyone who responded. All of your insight has helped me understand this roller coaster relationship. Here is an update...
...I did hear from him finally and we went out a couple of times and talked. He is still "very busy" with work and trying to get his life together so his pattern of calling every 2 weeks has not changed. I think we are really becoming real good friends. I am taking it slow with him and being very patient. ( I don't really have a choice but too). He is such a nice guy, I hope maybe one day we could develop a long-term relationship with a closeness. I do have to admit that when he disappears and I don't hear from him I miss him alot. The strange thing is though when we do finally see each other after 2 weeks or so he acts as if everything is completely fine...Odd.
...I did hear from him finally and we went out a couple of times and talked. He is still "very busy" with work and trying to get his life together so his pattern of calling every 2 weeks has not changed. I think we are really becoming real good friends. I am taking it slow with him and being very patient. ( I don't really have a choice but too). He is such a nice guy, I hope maybe one day we could develop a long-term relationship with a closeness. I do have to admit that when he disappears and I don't hear from him I miss him alot. The strange thing is though when we do finally see each other after 2 weeks or so he acts as if everything is completely fine...Odd.
Im a Leo woman dating a Virgo man also( my first Virgo).. or was, Im not sure if we stil are-lol.
Ive been seeing/talking to him for about 6 weeks now.. The first 2 weeks were awesome, then he got laid off from his job and everything seems to have fallen apart.
I havent heard from him since early Saturday morning and that was through IM he left me @ 4AM..Normally we talk every day.. Yesterday I tried asking him what was happening in a nice way, through e-mail but havent heard anything back from him.. Oh well I guess what will be will be.
One weird thing with him is he ALWAYS texts me and rarely calls me - thats ONE huge Red flag to me. I have never had anyone do that to me and even though I told him i need more communication through the phone etc he seems to want to communicate through texting.How can you get to know someone through texting—.If I do call him -he never answers the phone and will call me back later..So many things going through my mind about this guy and my gut says something isnt quite right so I think Im just going to let this run its course and see what happens. Who knows maybe he is married..
Ive been seeing/talking to him for about 6 weeks now.. The first 2 weeks were awesome, then he got laid off from his job and everything seems to have fallen apart.
I havent heard from him since early Saturday morning and that was through IM he left me @ 4AM..Normally we talk every day.. Yesterday I tried asking him what was happening in a nice way, through e-mail but havent heard anything back from him.. Oh well I guess what will be will be.
One weird thing with him is he ALWAYS texts me and rarely calls me - thats ONE huge Red flag to me. I have never had anyone do that to me and even though I told him i need more communication through the phone etc he seems to want to communicate through texting.How can you get to know someone through texting—.If I do call him -he never answers the phone and will call me back later..So many things going through my mind about this guy and my gut says something isnt quite right so I think Im just going to let this run its course and see what happens. Who knows maybe he is married..
Jennifer Lopez is a Leo and her husband Mark Anthony is a virgo.
Christina - i actually get along quite well with virgos too and the only thing i have in virgo is my midheaven. one of my best friends is a virgo, i've known her since i was a baby. another is a friend by association but there is actually a lot of mutual respect. in general we tend to mesh nicely (as long as we don't spend TTTTOOOO much time together and as friends). romantically, i wouldn't want to discourage you so i won't get into that. 😛
Hello, Merlot here new to this site. I have a similar situation as July66. Wanted to know if any Virgo or Virgo experts could help? I have been seeing a Virgo for about 2 months now, casually. We also go to the same gym to make matters more complicated. I don't know if seeing me that often is a good thing. With Virgo does absents make the heart grow fonder or staying part of his routine a good thing? My schedule is flexible so changing times isn't a problem. Now, I like him and want to see him more often but have been restraining myself not come off needy, so far so good. When I do see him it's very electric, all smiles and flirting from both sides, that's what I don't get. I would like to see him more outside the gym or aleast like to know how he's feeling. I don't want to scare him off. We only get together everyother week. I'm not being aggresive, relationship wise he seems to love to have control. The glass is always half full with this Virgo, very positive and charasmatic. How can I tell if he's being sincere or total player? I am a Aquarius and you think Virgo analyzes things I will to death.... Definetly need some help with this one!!
Thanks for your advise everyone. I thing he's keeping me for a safety net. I guess I was too. I have limited to seeing him only two days aweek at the gym. I don't want him to get the best of both worlds. We never did give our things back last week, but Im bringing his things Monday to get it over with. I think it will also show strength. He's still approaching me at least two times during our workouts. I'll just be a loyal friend and if something happens then so be it. He definetly left it so the door is open for a nother shot! What's that old saying ?Set love free and if it returns it was meant to be?. I'll keep giving him the most intelligent conversation when we talk and stimulating linger smiles from across the room othe wise. I have taken your advice and stayed away, he keeps giving me attention! If you have any other good advise let me know. I have a feeling it's not totally over even more so if this girl shows her true colors again.
i seem to have a crash on a virgon, a guy is from an office that shares the floor with us. there have been strong signles that indicated that he has been interested in me.
then we had a share xmas-party and we spent almost the whole night-out together with a lot of physical tensions (attractions).
after that he just was nowhere to be seen though we work at the same floor.
i took an initiative to write him an email which he replied in a few mins time.
but nothing then ....
i happened to meet him in the kitchen and asked him to go for after-work drink that turned out to be misunderstanding in making it to that meeting.
after that i asked him to go with me for lunch which he refused indirectly.
so we met again after new year, after holidays parting .... he was nice to me at first.
but after i showed him some cold shoulder, because i have been annoyed with that fact that he did not do anything from his part, he started to ignore me.
i wonder what next ....
by the way i am married with one daughter and he knows it 😢
then we had a share xmas-party and we spent almost the whole night-out together with a lot of physical tensions (attractions).
after that he just was nowhere to be seen though we work at the same floor.
i took an initiative to write him an email which he replied in a few mins time.
but nothing then ....
i happened to meet him in the kitchen and asked him to go for after-work drink that turned out to be misunderstanding in making it to that meeting.
after that i asked him to go with me for lunch which he refused indirectly.
so we met again after new year, after holidays parting .... he was nice to me at first.
but after i showed him some cold shoulder, because i have been annoyed with that fact that he did not do anything from his part, he started to ignore me.
i wonder what next ....
by the way i am married with one daughter and he knows it 😢
i would like to meet him alone out of my work place .... damm
so what you are saying is .... that i shall call it a day and forget about all these! and keep my both feet in my marriage 🙂
25thDecan: scorpio (a mature one) will enjoy a man who's as good at cerebral conversation and work as he is at sex, sports and fixing the toilet.
Here! Here!
Thanks! I'm still laughing! (Even though I agree 100% with your summaries!)
The scorpio's reading the book with you because she actually likes the book and it enhances her mood to read it with you. the cancer's reading the book because they're a little curious as to what can be gained from the book, especially with you involved. The pisces is reading the book because she learned something when people told her not to read the book and the virgo reading it intrigues her as to how such a conservative has a rebellious side.
Sheer. Fucking. Genius.
Any woman who's interested in a Virgo Man should read that paragraph until she understands it. If you can't understand it, then look for a guy from another Sign...
Lola1 - I'm writing this in response to your concern about your Virgo man never calling and only wanting to communicate via text message.
My boyfriend of over a year is a Virgo to a tea, and I don't know if this is a Virgo thing, a man thing, or just his personal preference, but he despises talking on the phone. Seriously, when we first met and fell in love we were doing the long distance thing and he must have mentioned a hundred times that he hates talking on the phone, except when talking to me. Now when we're apart (we live together so this isn't often) if I call him, he either doesn't answer or makes it very brief. I love chatting on the phone so this was something I just had to deal with... texting on the other hand, he communicates very well through texts and would much rather handle things that way. Just wanted to share that with you! I hope that helps 🙂
My boyfriend of over a year is a Virgo to a tea, and I don't know if this is a Virgo thing, a man thing, or just his personal preference, but he despises talking on the phone. Seriously, when we first met and fell in love we were doing the long distance thing and he must have mentioned a hundred times that he hates talking on the phone, except when talking to me. Now when we're apart (we live together so this isn't often) if I call him, he either doesn't answer or makes it very brief. I love chatting on the phone so this was something I just had to deal with... texting on the other hand, he communicates very well through texts and would much rather handle things that way. Just wanted to share that with you! I hope that helps 🙂
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