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My first date with a leo (Page 2)
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Posted by CLCNY30Posted by Candeh15Posted by catguy
hahahaha You girls crack me up. It's like Candeh and CLC are tentatively treading bad boy territory which in fact you are, but not with this guy. It looks like he was born in late July from the degree of his sun, so...eh. I don't really approve of the whole chickeny thing. Man the fuck up. That's how you keep a Virgo's interest, keep them on their toes, or off their toes. lol. So, you'll get a nice tame version, but not that intense playfulness. You'll be able to handle him pretty well, Candeh. I hope this extends into a great relationship, as Leos have what Virgos don't and vice versa, so it could be somewhat life-changing, to a certain degree. Leo and Virgo is highly underrated, sort of like a best kept secret.
But I am rather UPSET!!! that CLC hasn't sought my extended advice on her situation.
Hahaha, I've tread in bad boy territory before!!! I mean, this is just leo territory I'm in for the first time lol. And no, he was born early August, so he's still an august leo. I'll see if he's tame or not. I feel like I can't judge too quickly, and he kind of gave me butterflies, only because he has this really playful smirk. And leo is one sign I've always wanted to try, so I'll keep my fingers crossed. But he seems like a good guy in general (he joked he had enough emotions to not make him a sociopath -- totally a different conversation there lol).
LOL! If you don't mind, Candeh--when? Mine is August 1st.
I've always been hesitant of Leo--my older brother's temper kept me at bay on the sign, but wow...to see a Leo with that temper under control is sexy as hell. I mean, pahtnah took Nerf darts to the head, and playfully laughed it off and came after me! LOL. He's so cute *sigh*
I promise you, Catguy, I'm on ignore mode.
Not only do I get paid next Tues, but I get my taxes back (man, did I do good w/tax returns this year!) AND the 5,000.00 bonus check my company gave for meeting my commission goals last year. Trust me, I've got other things on my mind, and it'll be easy to push him to the back of it 😉click to expand
Haha he is August 4th. (I just remembered that my grandmother is a leo).
And I know what you mean about that controlled temper being sexy. It
Posted by CancerMoonPosted by Candeh15Posted by CancerMoon
He seems to be a nice guy, Candeh! Don't let the compatibility charts bother you, I don't think they're that accurate.
I hope you'll have a great second date with Ari ( I guess that's his name 😉 ) !
Thanks CM! Haha, I never trusted the compatibility charts. I just posted mine because I thought it was hilarious. After doing it, I just thought, "Can't I just like the guy and see where it goes?" lol. His name is actually Andrew, but that is his Hebrew name. xD
I'm glad you don't take the synastry thing too seriously. It can destroy and otherwise great relationship. I've seen it happen. That's why I try to avoid making those. xD
Yeah I thought it must be Ari because you said his name was Hebrew for leo. My Hebrew isn't that good but that's one thing I remember, 😉click to expand
Yeah, my Hebrew is lacking too. But I know I'll never forget what "lion" means now lol.
The synastry charts are completely contradicting. I was looking back at mine and just shaking my head. I mean, you tell me we'll be great, but then you're like AVOID HIM AT ALL COSTS!!! lol.
Posted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
My venus is in leo... I think that says a lot. 😉
Posted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
But isn't that cruel though? 😢
I don't know...maybe I'm just too soft-hearted, but I don't like the idea of making men jealous. It just falls under the game-playing category to me, and I don't like doing to others what I don't want done to myself...
Posted by catguyPosted by CancerMoonPosted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
That sounds sexy as hell...
Doesn't it?
I'm sorry, but I don't think we've ever officially met. I'm Catguy.click to expand
No I agree, it kind of sounds sexy. Maybe because I just imagine the guy so calm and collected, then you see that fire...
And yes, my venus in conjunct your sun 😛
Actually, I'm in the opposite position of Candeh now, lmmfao--
There's a Gemini guy at work that is a HUGE player type, that asked me on Friday if I viewed him as the male co-worker I las cosest to. I said something along the lines of liking the Leo, and dear God the shock and outrage that registered on his face...I actually had to console him via IM when I felt he calmed down enough, and tell him that of COURSE he was the male co-worker I was closest to (we talk about EVERYTHING). He responded "woot woot 😄 " and I chuckled to myself, whilst thinking, "imagine I was cruel enough to just pay Mr. Gemini all the attention in the world, and do it in front of Mr. Leo as payback for throwing his gf in my face everytime he felt guilty for flirting with me, like it's MY fault?!"
But I don't think I have it in me to do something like that (-_-). Yeah, I'd rather just ignore the lion. I'm not trying to mess with Karma...
There's a Gemini guy at work that is a HUGE player type, that asked me on Friday if I viewed him as the male co-worker I las cosest to. I said something along the lines of liking the Leo, and dear God the shock and outrage that registered on his face...I actually had to console him via IM when I felt he calmed down enough, and tell him that of COURSE he was the male co-worker I was closest to (we talk about EVERYTHING). He responded "woot woot 😄 " and I chuckled to myself, whilst thinking, "imagine I was cruel enough to just pay Mr. Gemini all the attention in the world, and do it in front of Mr. Leo as payback for throwing his gf in my face everytime he felt guilty for flirting with me, like it's MY fault?!"
But I don't think I have it in me to do something like that (-_-). Yeah, I'd rather just ignore the lion. I'm not trying to mess with Karma...
Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by Candeh15Posted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
My venus is in leo... I think that says a lot. 😉
You blow a guy with pride?click to expand
Let's put it this way: I'll blow you, but you better take care of yourself. I don't appreciate sloppiness. Take care of yourself, I treat you like a king... and you better do the same.
Posted by catguyPosted by CLCNY30Posted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
But isn't that cruel though? 😢
I don't know...maybe I'm just too soft-hearted, but I don't like the idea of making men jealous. It just falls under the game-playing category to me, and I don't like doing to others what I don't want done to myself...
No, I don't mean it's the girl's fault. No game-playing. I'm talking about when a dude shows blatant disrespect -- it's over.click to expand
How has he shown disrespect tho?
Posted by CLCNY30
Actually, I'm in the opposite position of Candeh now, lmmfao--
There's a Gemini guy at work that is a HUGE player type, that asked me on Friday if I viewed him as the male co-worker I las cosest to. I said something along the lines of liking the Leo, and dear God the shock and outrage that registered on his face...I actually had to console him via IM when I felt he calmed down enough, and tell him that of COURSE he was the male co-worker I was closest to (we talk about EVERYTHING). He responded "woot woot 😄 " and I chuckled to myself, whilst thinking, "imagine I was cruel enough to just pay Mr. Gemini all the attention in the world, and do it in front of Mr. Leo as payback for throwing his gf in my face everytime he felt guilty for flirting with me, like it's MY fault?!"
But I don't think I have it in me to do something like that (-_-). Yeah, I'd rather just ignore the lion. I'm not trying to mess with Karma...
Oh my goodness, gems are actually some of the most innocent people ever. You wouldn't think that, but they have such an endearing quality about him. They're softies down there lol.
Posted by Candeh15Posted by CLCNY30
Actually, I'm in the opposite position of Candeh now, lmmfao--
There's a Gemini guy at work that is a HUGE player type, that asked me on Friday if I viewed him as the male co-worker I las cosest to. I said something along the lines of liking the Leo, and dear God the shock and outrage that registered on his face...I actually had to console him via IM when I felt he calmed down enough, and tell him that of COURSE he was the male co-worker I was closest to (we talk about EVERYTHING). He responded "woot woot 😄 " and I chuckled to myself, whilst thinking, "imagine I was cruel enough to just pay Mr. Gemini all the attention in the world, and do it in front of Mr. Leo as payback for throwing his gf in my face everytime he felt guilty for flirting with me, like it's MY fault?!"
But I don't think I have it in me to do something like that (-_-). Yeah, I'd rather just ignore the lion. I'm not trying to mess with Karma...
Oh my goodness, gems are actually some of the most innocent people ever. You wouldn't think that, but they have such an endearing quality about him. They're softies down there lol.click to expand
But he seems a little psychopathic though...like 'nam flashbacks psychopathic...do.not.want.
He was OUTRAGED that I had the nerve to have feelings for the Leo, he was like "WTF?! HE HAS A GIRLFRIEND!"
I'm like (O_O) "yes, I know...I never said I wanted to marry the guy, I said I like him..." and he stormed away.
I have a feeling he said something to Mr. Leo though, as he was acting a little funny before he left yesterday, and seemed a little distant...
Oh well, I guess next week will tell...
Posted by CancerMoonPosted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
That sounds sexy as hell...click to expand
I have this leo guy fried, known him over 20 yrs. We've messed around a little, nothing serious, many moons ago. He used to tell me he loved me and all kinds of crazy shit, but never made any follow up moves. I always took it to be just a game. But he still keeps track of me through all the years and all the places we've been. He even has the nerve to be jealous of my spouses/partners. I married the 2nd husband when leoguy was out of the country. I could tell there was something under the joking when I saw how hurt he was that I did that.
Really odd, staying so faithful in his own strange way. I also remember him trying to be so cool out at shows & such (he's a music biz jet setter) but I'd catch him keeping an eye on me, and when I was ready to go, he'd be right there, magically, to walk me to my car, or to chase off some knob from hassling me.
Leos... ...
Posted by sandyclawsPosted by CancerMoonPosted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
That sounds sexy as hell...
I have this leo guy fried, known him over 20 yrs. We've messed around a little, nothing serious, many moons ago. He used to tell me he loved me and all kinds of crazy shit, but never made any follow up moves. I always took it to be just a game. But he still keeps track of me through all the years and all the places we've been. He even has the nerve to be jealous of my spouses/partners. I married the 2nd husband when leoguy was out of the country. I could tell there was something under the joking when I saw how hurt he was that I did that.
Really odd, staying so faithful in his own strange way. I also remember him trying to be so cool out at shows & such (he's a music biz jet setter) but I'd catch him keeping an eye on me, and when I was ready to go, he'd be right there, magically, to walk me to my car, or to chase off some knob from hassling me.
Leos... ...click to expand
This is really precious in its own weird way lol.
Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by Candeh15
Let's put it this way: I'll blow you, but you better take care of yourself. I don't appreciate sloppiness. Take care of yourself, I treat you like a king... and you better do the same.
I respect that.click to expand
Yeah, it's like of like, respect me and I'll respect you ten times better (preferably you respect me just as much).
Posted by catguyPosted by CLCNY30Posted by catguyPosted by CLCNY30Posted by catguy
yeah, wait till he sees another guy checking you out, then you'll see the temper. hahaha It's always controlled, but it's right there under the surface, behind that smile, lurking, just waiting to bust out.
But isn't that cruel though? 😢
I don't know...maybe I'm just too soft-hearted, but I don't like the idea of making men jealous. It just falls under the game-playing category to me, and I don't like doing to others what I don't want done to myself...
No, I don't mean it's the girl's fault. No game-playing. I'm talking about when a dude shows blatant disrespect -- it's over.
How has he shown disrespect tho?
Because when it's behind my back. Or even just plain old staring pisses me off. lol. Take a glance, but leave it at that. I once stared down five grown-ass men sitting at a table and they all put their faces back in their fuckin' plates and didn't say a word and never looked again.click to expand
Your lady is a queen (or least until she proves she is). She doesn't deserve to be looked at like that.
Is it something like that?
Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by Candeh15Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by Candeh15
Let's put it this way: I'll blow you, but you better take care of yourself. I don't appreciate sloppiness. Take care of yourself, I treat you like a king... and you better do the same.
I respect that.
Yeah, it's like of like, respect me and I'll respect you ten times better (preferably you respect me just as much).
Thats like an infinite fractal pattern, I respect you 10 times you respecting me you respecting me 10 times more.. becomes a recursive algorithm.. z = z^2 + c ! zomg. *jumps out of a window*click to expand
Lol did your head just explode?
Wait... did your "head" just explode. 😛
Posted by CLCNY30Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by CLCNY30
LOL! 😛
That's all it is, though--a crush. Alas, he has a girlfriend (-_-)
I understand. Maybe something could work out later on and if not, rest assured that the universe has something else really good in store for you.
Awww :* thanks mama
but from the way he tells me she treats him, doesn't seem they have much of a future, so I'll just keep an eye on that, LOLclick to expand
Nah, keep BOTH eyes on his ass. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CG said he could just be looking for the attention his gf won't give him. Just need an ego boost, or something. I could see that, but the way he acts around/towards me is not lustful, it's actually like a guy who's genuinely interested but afraid of getting hurt. It's kind of why I feel horrible to ignore him, but I have to try... (-_-)
From what I'm hearing, she really doesn't treat him well; she monitors his fb wall and will fly off the deep handle if there's anything (or anyONE) there that she doesn't approve of. She's on meds, and they inhibit her sex drive (I can't imagine a Leo having sex witheld...damn...) not to mention she'll blast him via text messaging for every little thing. They were together in the past, and broke up, only to reunite a year or two later...
Why would a Leo put up with this? A Taurus, I can see, but a Leo?
In any event, if that's what he really wants, I respect it because I have no other choice. But yeah, you can't have her at home and be playing me at work.
From what I'm hearing, she really doesn't treat him well; she monitors his fb wall and will fly off the deep handle if there's anything (or anyONE) there that she doesn't approve of. She's on meds, and they inhibit her sex drive (I can't imagine a Leo having sex witheld...damn...) not to mention she'll blast him via text messaging for every little thing. They were together in the past, and broke up, only to reunite a year or two later...
Why would a Leo put up with this? A Taurus, I can see, but a Leo?
In any event, if that's what he really wants, I respect it because I have no other choice. But yeah, you can't have her at home and be playing me at work.
Aw maaan 😢
CG, that hurt to read. I feel so bad for him. But why stay with her? I do not understand?
As far as her being a "looker", not in my eyes. I know she has blue eyes, which he has told me is his "kryptonite" (a girl w/blue eyes, in general) but that's it? That's all? That's why you like her—
I can't throw myself at a guy. It seems wrong, and is just not something I want to ever do.
I understand his fear of rejection, but I have a fear of rejection too--especially with him throwing her into my face.
I try to be as forward as I can, without crossing the line, but I don't know what more to do...so I guess ignoring him is my last hope (-_-) and I just pray it won't do more harm than good.
CG, that hurt to read. I feel so bad for him. But why stay with her? I do not understand?
As far as her being a "looker", not in my eyes. I know she has blue eyes, which he has told me is his "kryptonite" (a girl w/blue eyes, in general) but that's it? That's all? That's why you like her—
I can't throw myself at a guy. It seems wrong, and is just not something I want to ever do.
I understand his fear of rejection, but I have a fear of rejection too--especially with him throwing her into my face.
I try to be as forward as I can, without crossing the line, but I don't know what more to do...so I guess ignoring him is my last hope (-_-) and I just pray it won't do more harm than good.
Posted by catguy
^^^^ Also, I (if I were him) would take it a step further and send a private message on FB to test the waters. Nothing blatant, but just you know something to get a conversation going and see what happens. It would be safe for him that way.
Has he ever sent you a private message on FB, C?
It doesn't mean anything if he didn't because it depends on how savvy a person is.
But I will tell you that he's doing the same things I would do if I were interested, except bringing up the gf. You know, it's like maybe if he posts something on her FB then maybe CLC will post something flirty to him and will boost his confidence to make a move.
His fb PMs were clean, but yes he's sent some. With the gf patrolling his wall, there's no other way for him to talk on there.
At work, via IM, we really talk about incredibly personal stuff (mostly sexual, but not like "porno" type convo, more like "lovemaking/love" type stuff. If it's ever raunchy, it's respectfully so (I hope you know what I mean? lol). He seems curious, and shy, and insecure, and I try to let him know that I think he's adorable, but then he'll say some line about how his gf this or his gf that, and I pull back.
I gave him a taste of his own medicine on IM last week, and after he mentioned something about his gf. I mentioned something about my Taurus. He went dead quiet, and never responded for the rest of the day.
Don't dish what you can't take, I always say.
I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, Candeh 😢
Posted by CLCNY30
CG said he could just be looking for the attention his gf won't give him. Just need an ego boost, or something. I could see that, but the way he acts around/towards me is not lustful, it's actually like a guy who's genuinely interested but afraid of getting hurt. It's kind of why I feel horrible to ignore him, but I have to try... (-_-)
From what I'm hearing, she really doesn't treat him well; she monitors his fb wall and will fly off the deep handle if there's anything (or anyONE) there that she doesn't approve of. She's on meds, and they inhibit her sex drive (I can't imagine a Leo having sex witheld...damn...) not to mention she'll blast him via text messaging for every little thing. They were together in the past, and broke up, only to reunite a year or two later...
Why would a Leo put up with this? A Taurus, I can see, but a Leo?
In any event, if that's what he really wants, I respect it because I have no other choice. But yeah, you can't have her at home and be playing me at work.
Agreed. You, me and cg are >here< I definitely think he's interested and perhaps the ego boost thing is a small part of it but on the other hand, you're a human being with feelings too so I think you should look out for yourself and guard your heart and if that means cutting back on communication with him then...oh well.
Posted by catguy
^^^^ Also, I (if I were him) would take it a step further and send a private message on FB to test the waters. Nothing blatant, but just you know something to get a conversation going and see what happens. It would be safe for him that way.
Has he ever sent you a private message on FB, C?
It doesn't mean anything if he didn't because it depends on how savvy a person is.
But I will tell you that he's doing the same things I would do if I were interested, except bringing up the gf. You know, it's like maybe if he posts something on her FB then maybe CLC will post something flirty to him and will boost his confidence to make a move.
See, bringing up the girlfriend thing is what I'm still stuck on. Maybe he's doing it to call C into action? I know it sounds weird and twisted but, does that make any sense? If his only reason for doing this is to get a rise out of her to feel better about himself then I say fuck him and put his ass on ignore. I can't stand when people use others for the sake of feeling better about themselves.
Posted by catguyPosted by CLCNY30
Aw maaan 😢
CG, that hurt to read. I feel so bad for him. But why stay with her? I do not understand?
As far as her being a "looker", not in my eyes. I know she has blue eyes, which he has told me is his "kryptonite" (a girl w/blue eyes, in general) but that's it? That's all? That's why you like her—
I can't throw myself at a guy. It seems wrong, and is just not something I want to ever do.
I understand his fear of rejection, but I have a fear of rejection too--especially with him throwing her into my face.
I try to be as forward as I can, without crossing the line, but I don't know what more to do...so I guess ignoring him is my last hope (-_-) and I just pray it won't do more harm than good.
It's only a theory.
Also, it could be that he's emotionally dependent on her, and so that's what holds him back from going full force toward you. You know, the more he gets closer to you, or even asks you out, the more he feels the pressure of that emotional dependency. The situation isn't a reflection on you. It's a reflection on his situation. imo.click to expand
Damn, you're good.
Yeah C, he's having an emotional affair with you right now. I think he's confused and needs to figure out what the hell he wants to do but it's not up to you to do anything. He has to figure this out for himself and man up if it's you that he really wants.
Posted by CLCNY30
I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, Candeh 😢
No it's fine. You have questions and there is no reason that they shouldn't be answered.
Posted by catguy
Yeah, I mean the dude would not be sending you PMs if he wasn't interested. And he's not PMing because his gf is monitoring him. He wants to build from there imo. Work toward something, sort of like trying to guide both of you together so you'll both simultaneously be on the same page, and so as a result he doesn't feel the risk.
CG, are Leo's that insecure though?? I mean, I understand that no one wants to get hurt, but I don't think I can be with a sign that needs an ego boost every hour of every day.
I mean, the signs are undeniable--he asked me to do a Photoshop project for him, to redo his car (he wants to have work done on it, and wanted to see what it'd look like with modifications), and he offered to pay me. I said it'd be my pleasure to do it, and that I didn't want payment for something that would be great practice for me. I finished the project almost 2 weeks later, and he was so happy and praising (have you ever seen a Black girl blush? :") ) and later on, he went out to get us all lunch, and when he returned the money I gave him for my portion to me, I'm like "?" and he said "it's the least I can do for you, for the project--I really appreciate it", and I swear, I smiled as I ate...I couldn't STOP smiling, lmfao.
I went into the back room later, after he left, and on his laptop's screen was a wallpaper of the car I Photoshopped for him 🙂
omg, I "eeeeee!!!!"d, LOL
There's just too many signs, between the both of us--the way he lights up when he sees me, the way I'll always turn to look at him even if I'm talking to others in the room (and he's looking at me too, of course). The way he'll come to stand right behind me to scare me when I turn around, him using the printer up by me when there's a printer so much closer to the area he works in, the appreciation in his voice and stare when I thank him profusely for doing a favor for me (going out to get us lunch if I'm too busy to do it, or helping me with something work-related).
I'm just impatient...I need results, and I'm trying to be understanding, but why are you pushing this bish in my face, when she's standing you up for lunch— Come on now...
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by catguyPosted by CLCNY30
Aw maaan 😢
CG, that hurt to read. I feel so bad for him. But why stay with her? I do not understand?
As far as her being a "looker", not in my eyes. I know she has blue eyes, which he has told me is his "kryptonite" (a girl w/blue eyes, in general) but that's it? That's all? That's why you like her—
I can't throw myself at a guy. It seems wrong, and is just not something I want to ever do.
I understand his fear of rejection, but I have a fear of rejection too--especially with him throwing her into my face.
I try to be as forward as I can, without crossing the line, but I don't know what more to do...so I guess ignoring him is my last hope (-_-) and I just pray it won't do more harm than good.
It's only a theory.
Also, it could be that he's emotionally dependent on her, and so that's what holds him back from going full force toward you. You know, the more he gets closer to you, or even asks you out, the more he feels the pressure of that emotional dependency. The situation isn't a reflection on you. It's a reflection on his situation. imo.
Damn, you're good.
Yeah C, he's having an emotional affair with you right now. I think he's confused and needs to figure out what the hell he wants to do but it's not up to you to do anything. He has to figure this out for himself and man up if it's you that he really wants.click to expand
*sigh* (-_-)
then I'll take a step back.
I hope it's not a smack in the face if I don't respond to his fb replies though...
Posted by catguy
@VV. I agree, but still his main problem seems to be his dependency on his gf. He doesn't know what will happen if he starts dating CLC. He knows his gf will be the same ole same ole. But if he leaves his gf to start dating CLC and then they don't work out then he's in no man's land. hahaha
Oh chit...
Yeah, that I can see...
But I'm so much sweeter to him as a friend than she is as a gf...
No, but okay, I can see your point. It's fine then, he'll see in time, hopefully...
The gf is a Cap. by the way, not sure if that helps, lol.
Thank you so much VVxxx and CG, you gave me a lot to think about
Thanks so much for your time 🙂 I seriously appreciate it
And I'll invite you to the wedding
LOL!!!
😛
Thanks so much for your time 🙂 I seriously appreciate it
And I'll invite you to the wedding
LOL!!!
😛
Posted by catguy
@CLC No, I don't see a Leo going through that much trouble to get an ego boost. I really don't. I mean, I'm sure there are other girls around for that if that is his objective. He would get his ego boost from you and then be off. But he's coming back and back several times a day apparently, so there's much more going on here.
Yeah...I keep going back and forth...
I don't want to be too forward, but I'd love to tell him how adorable I think he is...but that scares me, I don't want to make him feel uncomfortable.
And sweet Jesus, those moments when our hands touch...he's so soft, and warm...
*sigh*
I love this feeling. This "crush"ing feeling. Reminds me of jhs, LOL. It's so cute.
Posted by catguy
@VV. I agree, but still his main problem seems to be his dependency on his gf. He doesn't know what will happen if he starts dating CLC. He knows his gf will be the same ole same ole. But if he leaves his gf to start dating CLC and then they don't work out then he's in no man's land. hahaha
I wholeheartedly agree. His girlfriend is 'safe' and he's insecure, afraid of rejection and scared just like you said. People are more comfortable with the evil that they know than with the evil that they don't.
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*sigh* (-_-)
then I'll take a step back.
I hope it's not a smack in the face if I don't respond to his fb replies though...
Trust me, I've been there and know exactly what you're going through and it sucks. It's frustrating, annoying and sometimes just downright painful but I think that taking a step back is the right thing to do because if you keep at it like this with him, then you run the risk of getting sucked in even deeper with a guy who may never leave his gf (at least not right now and you have to keep that possibility in the back of your mind) and at this point, you've got more to lose than he does. Now I don't think you should cut communication with him completely, but, just enough to keep yourself with a level head.
Posted by CLCNY30
Thank you so much VVxxx and CG, you gave me a lot to think about
Thanks so much for your time 🙂 I seriously appreciate it
And I'll invite you to the wedding
LOL!!!
😛
LOL!!!!!!!! Hell with an invite. That could be years from now. Just put me and CG's check in the mail. e-therapy is complete. AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Posted by catguy
Why don't you ask him out for coffee, for christ's sake then? That's a lot less risky than coming out and saying I'm -- I mean, he's adorable.
And hypothetically, if he says no, you can say that you were hoping to talk to somebody about that damn Taurus guy you've been seeing. Boom. Done.
OHHHHHHH you're good. I like this. Take it from CG, CLC. Looks like he knows what he's talking about when it comes to saving face.
Posted by catguy
Why don't you ask him out for coffee, for christ's sake then? That's a lot less risky than coming out and saying I'm -- I mean, he's adorable.
And hypothetically, if he says no, you can say that you were hoping to talk to somebody about that damn Taurus guy you've been seeing. Boom. Done.
LOL! Icwutudidthere 😉
I don't tread on other women's territory like that. It's one thing to admire, it's another to ask out.
Also, I don't ask men out. I'm a traditionalist; I feel the guy should do that.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by CLCNY30
Thank you so much VVxxx and CG, you gave me a lot to think about
Thanks so much for your time 🙂 I seriously appreciate it
And I'll invite you to the wedding
LOL!!!
😛
LOL!!!!!!!! Hell with an invite. That could be years from now. Just put me and CG's check in the mail. e-therapy is complete. AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!click to expand
LMFAO!
Check's on the way!
Posted by THEKingofLibra
Women need to cut this traditionalist shit out. Ask a guy out if you are interested, don't be a pussy 😛
So because a woman holds on to traditional values such as letting the man pursue her she is a pussy?
And "men" need to stop thinking that just because s1uts are giving it away for free that this "Girls Gone Wild" new age bull applies to real women. Let the s1uts ask you gigolos out, the rest of us will be waiting for real men to approach us.
Posted by catguy
It. Would. Only. Be. Coffee. In the afternoon or late afternoon, something like that. While you're having coffee he might end up saying we should have lunch next time or dinner, whatever.
I respect that you are traditonal, but it is a total turn-on to me when a girl is like this is what I want and I'm not afraid to ask for it. The reason I'm encouraging you is because you said that you're traditional but you didn't say that you don't want to ask him out. There's a difference. Plus, it's only coffee. Wow. Big deal. It's not like you're asking him to go to the opera and dinner.
But my "saving face" is genius, huh, VV? hahahaha
I respect what you're saying, but the bottomline is (happy or not) he's dating her. I would not only feel horrible steppign on her toes like that, but even if they DID break up, I'd not jump into a relationship with him right away either, if he were interested. I want to give them time to figure out what they want/don't want with each other, and once the lines are drawn, then he can let me know he's ready to move on, and we'll take it from there.
Posted by catguyPosted by CLCNY30
And "men" need to stop thinking that just because s1uts are giving it away for free that this "Girls Gone Wild" new age bull applies to real women. Let the s1uts ask you gigolos out, the rest of us will be waiting for real men to approach us.
Hey, if it were him I would have approached you a long time ago. I don't know about sluts and gigolos. I'm just talking about a cup of coffee. lol.click to expand
That wasn't directed at you, babe. I'm just tired of these guys who think they don't have to do anything, but lay there with their hands behind their head.
My landlord (a Pisces) recently bragged to me about never having to ask a female out, "they just come to me, and do the asking" he said, giving me a meaningful look. His sly smile turned into a frown when he saw I couldn't have given a chit less.
I live here, you dipwad, I hear how you treat these girls that ask you out. You treat them like sad silly little biches, and kick them out at 2am, once you've drained your nuts. Fuk outta here. Yeah, let THEM ask you out. I'm good.
It's guys like that, that keep me from ever entertaining the thought of asking a guy out.
Posted by catguy
But my "saving face" is genius, huh, VV? hahahaha
Yes, quite, if I must say so myself. Hahahahahaa..
So let's flip it;
What about when a guy asks a woman to take him out for lunch or dinner...like wtf? What should a woman make of that CG.
Just for the record, I don't do any pursuing whatsoever. I barely help the guy along (I'm working that out) and I find that potential love interests get to a place where they either begin to badger me and run me down or give up on me altogether. LOL!
What about when a guy asks a woman to take him out for lunch or dinner...like wtf? What should a woman make of that CG.
Just for the record, I don't do any pursuing whatsoever. I barely help the guy along (I'm working that out) and I find that potential love interests get to a place where they either begin to badger me and run me down or give up on me altogether. LOL!
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
So let's flip it;
What about when a guy asks a woman to take him out for lunch or dinner...like wtf? What should a woman make of that CG.
Just for the record, I don't do any pursuing whatsoever. I barely help the guy along (I'm working that out) and I find that potential love interests get to a place where they either begin to badger me and run me down or give up on me altogether. LOL!
Years ago, the brother of this friend I was close to pulled me aside after hearing her and a few of our other friends badger me about asking this guy out that I liked. I flat out refused, they cackled about me being so old-fashioned, and drying up into an old prune waiting for him to ask me out.
I excused myself to use the restroom, and he pulled me aside.
Now, it was no secret he liked me. At first, I thought he was just playing (he was quite the playa) but he'd get really serious, and I found out he really did, genuinely, like me.
He saw the look on my face, and sat me down before telling me that "girls" asked him out, "women" waited for him to ask them out. He said even if he was hellainterested in a woman, the second she gave in easily enough to ask HIM out, she became just another "girl" to him, and he found he didn't have as much respect for her as he would if she'd allowed him to woo her.
This guy was a prettyboy, VERY good-looking. Even his sister used to complain about all the biches calling and teeheeheeing into the phone like dummies, looking for him. I kept him at arms length because of this, I just had no desire to be with someone who had been "around the world", so to speak, lol.
When I sighed, and got up to leave, he said,
"Just keep what I said in mind, and if you don't believe me, know that I've probably only asked about 4 women out in my life. The girls were coming at me left and right, but I respected those 4 women enough to swallow my pride and take a chance, because I knew they were above anything these chickenheads I see everyday were about, and were worth it. Just 4. And you were one of them."
That made my year.
Don't get me wrong--I don't look down my nose at females who ask males out. I'm well aware that some women like to be in charge, are go-getters, like wearing the pants, etc. etc. I'm also aware that there are just as many females who just want quickies as there are males who do, so they see nothing wrong with just skipping the intros and asking the guy if he wants to get a room.
But I know me--I want romance. I want a man who is going to go out of his way to do things for/with me, because he knows I'm going to wrap my world around him, and never let him want for anything. I want him to earn that though, because when I give, I give hard, and I don't want to give to a guy who didn't even have enough balls to approach me first. That's all.
But I know me--I want romance. I want a man who is going to go out of his way to do things for/with me, because he knows I'm going to wrap my world around him, and never let him want for anything. I want him to earn that though, because when I give, I give hard, and I don't want to give to a guy who didn't even have enough balls to approach me first. That's all.
Posted by CLCNY30
Don't get me wrong--I don't look down my nose at females who ask males out. I'm well aware that some women like to be in charge, are go-getters, like wearing the pants, etc. etc. I'm also aware that there are just as many females who just want quickies as there are males who do, so they see nothing wrong with just skipping the intros and asking the guy if he wants to get a room.
But I know me--I want romance. I want a man who is going to go out of his way to do things for/with me, because he knows I'm going to wrap my world around him, and never let him want for anything. I want him to earn that though, because when I give, I give hard, and I don't want to give to a guy who didn't even have enough balls to approach me first. That's all.
Interesting story C. Just reading it has taught me so much. I am extremely reserved and cautious when I like a guy. I take romantic interests seriously. I don't go in for light relationship experiences so whenever I like a guy, he is definitely someone who has the qualities that I want and with whom I can see myself with for the long term. No flings here. I don't condemn women who take matters into their own hands but, it's just not my style . Period. Pursuing a guy has never been something that I've done and I plan to keep it that way. Besides, I wouldn't know the first thing about asking a guy out and would probably come over as a big ole dork anyway. LOL.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by CLCNY30
Don't get me wrong--I don't look down my nose at females who ask males out. I'm well aware that some women like to be in charge, are go-getters, like wearing the pants, etc. etc. I'm also aware that there are just as many females who just want quickies as there are males who do, so they see nothing wrong with just skipping the intros and asking the guy if he wants to get a room.
But I know me--I want romance. I want a man who is going to go out of his way to do things for/with me, because he knows I'm going to wrap my world around him, and never let him want for anything. I want him to earn that though, because when I give, I give hard, and I don't want to give to a guy who didn't even have enough balls to approach me first. That's all.
Interesting story C. Just reading it has taught me so much. I am extremely reserved and cautious when I like a guy. I take romantic interests seriously. I don't go in for light relationship experiences so whenever I like a guy, he is definitely someone who has the qualities that I want and with whom I can see myself with for the long term. No flings here. I don't condemn women who take matters into their own hands but, it's just not my style . Period. Pursuing a guy has never been something that I've done and I plan to keep it that way. Besides, I wouldn't know the first thing about asking a guy out and would probably come over as a big ole dork anyway. LOL.click to expand
You get me.
Posted by catguy
@CLC -- yeah I see that dude's point. And it's a good one, along with the compliment to you.
Yeah, I wouldn't want some giggling little girl to ask me out, but if she's classy and confident, then I wouldn't think any less of her. I've had girls ask me out, but none of them have ever been classy. hahahaha
But this made me think of something that's been mentioned in several movies like Citizen Kane and whatever that movie was with Demi Moore and Robert Redford when he offers her a million bucks to spend the night with him. What was the name of that movie?
Anyway, two characters in both of those movies mentioned seeing a girl for just a moment, like on a bus or train or whatever, but the guy hesitated, or didn't try hard enough, or the circumstances were just impossible at that very moment, and so the guy, for some bizarre reason always thinks about that girl for the rest of his life. For me, that has happened. It's so crazy, but so true.
Have you girls ever experienced something like that? You saw a guy and for some reason he stuck in your mind?
See? That's some messed up coincidence, that the ones that asked you out were not classy.
I don't think a woman who asks a guy out lacks class, but I do think there's at least a LITTLE lack of self-confidence--but only IF she's looking for a serious relationship.
"Indecent Proposal" is the name of the movie, if I'm not mistaken.
I will do what I'm doing with this Leo, lay as much bait as possible--give all the signs I can without just lying before him spread eagle, directing airline traffic lights towards my waiting choch, and if he doesn't take the bait, then I know he (as Toni Braxton sang) "wasn't man enough for me", and I don't waste my time thinking about "guys", I SPEND my time thinking about "men".
Posted by catguyPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Well, first off, my Virgal is a master at asking but not asking. You see, she did the ole' "oh, what are you doing this weekend? My life is so boring so I have to live vicariously through other people." You see the fine line? hahaha Her voice very casual but her body language extremely attentive. And it worked. I asked her out right there. And don't think it was easy for her because when she walked away she had a look like "I can't fucking believe I did that." So, my point is that you can manipulate to get around your traditional values without really sacrificing them.
So, do you mean a guy asking out a woman and he expects her to pay? LOL!!!! If so, dude is an idiot! No self-respect, no self-esteem, at all.
Did that happen to you?click to expand
Well sort of, I guess. So tired of these wannabe players...uuggghhh...I honestly don't know what to think but I do know that if a guy thinks you're naieve and have no street smarts, you can become his prime target for manipulation so that he can use you to get what he wants. Lucky for me I'm just half an idiot. 😉
See, on the job I keep shut and talk to the male co-workers only about work and superficial subjects (oh the weather is so beautiful today). He's all badgering me every minute and in my face "Oh I know you must have a man". Then it gets to the point where he's TELLING me that I'm going to bring him back a souvenir from my next international trip. Like WTF—— You're making demands now? Since when were you paying my R-E-N-T? Through all this, I don't budge. I continue talking to him about superficial subjects and he's under the impression that I am taken (hate to tell fibs like that but sometimes a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do) so as to keep him off my back. Then he's all "oh you have your hair up today" and "is that a real xyz?" (in reference to maybe a piece of designer clothing that I have on) and I'm so patient and cool about the whole thing still not budging. Still not to sure what it is exactly that is happening to me because or what type of game this guy is trying to play because, I'll be honest and say that I'm not very experienced when it comes to things like this but my mind is working like clockwork all the while analyzing his actions, words, gestures, etc. Finally he asks if I could take him t
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I promise you, Catguy, I'm on ignore mode.
Not only do I get paid next Tues, but I get my taxes back (man, did I do good w/tax returns this year!) AND the 5,000.00 bonus check my company gave for meeting my commission goals last year. Trust me, I've got other things on my mind, and it'll be easy to push him to the back of it 😉