So, I've read lots of posts where it talks about the Virgo man 'push n' pull'. And I understand that us women in a relationship with Virgo men need to have a lot of patience and be prepared to give them their space. And we need to be prepared that at some times, we may not hear from them for a while. But what these topics have not mentioned and what I would really would like to know is:
When these Virgo males are having their space and not in contact with you - what are they sorting out in their heads? What's going on up there? Do they still think about the women they are seeing? What's the space thing all about?
I'm a taurus, so I've got patience and a life that keeps me busy, and I can just wait for him to come back to me - not a problem. I'm curious as to what's going on for Virgo males at this time.
Well that was my question too and still is...im leo and in my third week of not hearing from him the virgo. and by "not" i mean no contact at all... so what should i think of now....am i left for ever or he is just having his space.
how can we know that when they dont even answer our call nor bothering themselves to tell you hey girli,i dont want to be with you anymore...
so how long should we wait? i dont know...perhaps with the natural flow of time you will understand that he's gone from your life. but is it just because they are virgo or can be for any guy?
"When these Virgo males are having their space and not in contact with you - what are they sorting out in their heads? What's going on up there? Do they still think about the women they are seeing? What's the space thing all about?"
I tend to focus too much when solving certain problems in my life. ***And by needing my space, the faster I believe I could solve the problem and get back at you sooner.***
Another aspect of it is, as a virgo myself, I have a complicated way of thinking which might not be appreciated by most people. It's like "I think A is a good solution, but it has these weaknesses (blabla..), hence B might be a better one, but B has this weaknesses, then how about C, and so on". I kept coming up with solutions and yet a way to kill it as well. I just want to think logically, which solution is the best. I hate failure, therefore in order to minimize my failure/flaw, I kept thinking over and over to find the so-called-perfect solution as best as I could.
This is how my brain works. Find an idea, and then try to break it. If all fail, then find the best possible idea.
I once trying to discuss my problem with friends, and trust me, they always told me I think too much and some of them just cant handle my analyzing process. I am open to suggestions, but it has to pass my "breaking it" process too (this is what most people get irritated when discussing problem with us).
***Why don't we save the time and trouble arguing with each other? and Let me solve this problem by my own (you can give suggestion thou) and You do NOT need to worry -at all-.***
*** = I hope this can answer some of your question about disappearing. We just dont want to drag you along with our stressful way of thinking, honey =). And we cant help it not to over-thinking it, since we want the best solutions.
Actually, I don't find myself doing the disappearing act. I rarely ignore phone calls and txt. If I am busy or my mind is pretty occupied while a phone rings, I still pick it up but might trying to explain that I need time to think something and will get back at you sooner. It's probably either I am a weird virgo or I never realize I actually do disappearing without I realize it.
"so how long should we wait? i dont know...perhaps with the natural flow of time you will understand that he's gone from your life."
Uhm, if I don't have feeling for someone anymore, I would say it straight to her face (in a calm manner though). I hate to be in uncertain position especially in relationship, so there is no way I am putting her in uncertain position. If you feel us putting you in this situation, my best bet probably we didnt really mean it. Express your concern to your virguy (in a calm/suggestion manner), we love to understand our partner needs, and to satisfy them as long as they are reasonable.
Thanks phirgo - loved reading your posts. I texted my Virguy last Wednesday to ask if he wanted to hook up on Friday. He was going away for the weekend and wasn't able to, so text me back to see if we could maybe meet up on the Thursday instead. But I was unable due to work commitments. He also mentioned how busy he had been, which is fine by me because my life has been busy too. So I understand why I haven't heard from him much. And now it's been a week and a half since I last heard from him, so I've let him have his space. I'm not texting him until he contacts me.
Our relationship is pretty much basically a sexual one, due to the fact that I am quite a bit older than him, and it's what we agreed on when getting together. He totally chased me with phone texts for about 4 months before I agreed to anything. But with our last sexual encounter, he totally closed up on me, got real reserved, kinda shy and nervous. I felt a little hurt about the situation, and we haven't really spoken much since. I haven't had a chance to speak to him about what happened and how I felt. I've left him to his space, but I was interested to know what goes on in a Virguy's head when he's distancing. I am hoping he's not beating himself up for closing up (he was still able to orgasm real easily, not a problem... lol)
when you are distancing, do you virguys really think of the person or no....i mean how can we know you are strggling with your calculations or have just cut the relation with us and have let us find it out by seeing your ignorance...
you know, this really gives me guilty feeling...whether i did sth wrong or he just decided he is not interested anymore....
is tihs common for all virgos? should i take this as his vorgoan character or i just have to accept that fact that he has left regardless of his zodiac sign!!!
I am just one virgo, I can't represent myself as the whole virgo. Maybe it's better to hear other virgo opinion too.
ST and Shinny: I'll be honest with you, when I am focusing and thinking hard, I could/tend to forget any other things (i.e. lunch/dinner, time, or even my loved one) but it's only for awhile. It's like distraction in my head when I am thinking. But I am still human, I need a break and at this time, of course we remember you at times. But I might not initiate a contact with you, since my break time is probably like 5-10 minutes in between and based on my experience, talking with my gf will most likely exceeding 5-10 minutes. During this 5-10 minutes, I'll probably just say hi or replying to text (ONLY IF it just real simple "hi"/"how are u doing?" which won't take long time OR real urgent problem) and then continue focusing to solve my problem again.
Yes, I know, I am inconsiderate and selfish at times. I know it's my weaknesses, but for me, the faster I solve this problem, the faster I can get back at you. But!! I will, for sure, make it up with my gf later for the time I am "kind of" ignoring you.
---Oh GOD, I just realize it when typing this answer above. Is this what people here refer as push-pull treatment from virgo? At times disappear (push), and then come back strong in a loving way (pull), and then disappear again. Then, when the loved one cut the relation, we the virguys will be confused what are we doing wrong (when we think we didnt do anything wrong?--- LOL, I am sorry if this is what make you confused why we are acting this way, It's just how our brain works (or at least mine). Deep down, We didn't mean to hurt anyone's feeling, We still love you dearly. This is probably what you people call it virgo needs their space? The more you bug us when we are thinking = the longer we can solve the problem = the longer I can get back at you with 100% attention.
"how can we know you are strggling with your calculations or have just cut the relation with us and have let us find it out by seeing your ignorance...
you know, this really gives me guilty feeling...whether i did sth wrong or he just decided he is not interested anymore...."
Though one. I hate confrontation. When someone did sth wrong, I usually tell them I dont really like it (most likely not in direct manner, but in joking/critiquing manner i.e. "Oh, so you think I am ____, Well, I am sorry I cant be such a perfect person") When someone pissed me off real bad, I will just ignore them totally. When I am busy thinking, I will probably ignoring people a bit (without I realize it).
There is the tough one, to differentiate whether I ignore you totally or not. Damn, I am such annoying guy, arent I?
But 1 thing for sure, If I am not interested anymore, I will say it directly to you. I won't leave you hanging around.
so Phirgo ,you mean i still have to wait since within the last 14 days he hasnt been in any touch at all,so he hasnt directly told me he is not into me any more.....are there any hopes— i was thinking that if anytime i(leo) dont want to see anyone at all i would definitely tell him either by call or text or in person....
hanging someone for two weeks and letting her find the answer is not fair at all...
i doubt its becasue of sun sign...its more social manners probelm....you cant simply push away someone just because you find her in like with you,or yourself feeling in her!!
thats what has to be...you no way want to see someone who takes you casually and for fun...we all need warm feed back...i must be stupid if i ignore warm responds!!!
Shinny - Everyone is different. I can't answer your question whether you should wait or not. If I loved you, there is no way I am ignoring you for 14 days straight. Based on what I read here on virgo board, virguys can go disappear for longer period than that. As for myself, I'll probably need my space not for a long time, at most probably like 1-2 days max. But, this is just me.
Social manners problem? Personally, I find it rude as well if someone has been ignoring my phone calls or text. This is why I usually better off telling her that I have problem to solve and will get back at her ASAP. I hate being ignored, and surely I will try not to ignore/disappear on someone. At least, she will know what I have been doing and please be understanding giving me that space.
I have Aries moon and Gemini (communicative) Rising, so that's probably what make me different. I cant tell you how you should act, since everyone is different and you know him better than I do.
I do understand your worry and disappointment. How about asking from him in "understanding" manner? such as: "Hey, long time not hearing from you. Are you okay? Any problem I can help? I am kinda bored/have a little trouble, Do you mind to help me for a bit?"
Do NOT confront him directly though "Hey, why are u ignoring me?! Where have you been?" and such. I said it before, I hate confrontation.
For "me", anything longer than 7 days is too much already and not being considerate of their partner. But who am I to speak for other virgoes? I am just one person, not a whole. Everyone is different.
"you no way want to see someone who takes you casually and for fun...we all need warm feed back...i must be stupid if i ignore warm responds!!!" I agree. Cold feedback will only drift me further and further, and without you know it, BAM! my feeling could be gone.
I will elaborate the purpose (and the meaning behind it) of my question here: "Hey, long time not hearing from you. Are you okay? Any problem I can help? I am kinda bored/have a little trouble, Do you mind to help me for a bit?"
[1] I am trying to see if the other person care about me, since I have "a little trouble" and I need someone to listen.
I am trying to see if you are willing to listen/care about me, even for just 1-5 minutes out of your 24 hours of daily life.
[2] If he is busy, I can always get away with "Oh, it's okay, my problem is not that big anyway. You go finished your problem first, okay!?"
If you are worth so much, I will expect you to at least listen to me no matter how small my problem is. While on the other hand, I am telling you that I can be understanding by telling you to finish your problem first. If I can be understanding, why cant you? Even telling me that you have damn-real hard problem for 1-2 minutes will be more appreciated rather than disappearing without notice.
[3] If he is not busy, then you are set. you are having conversation with him. Remember, direct confrontation rarely works (at least for me).
This is the "not-so-deep" meaning behind it. Am I selfish enough? Well, just a small harmless tactic to make you talk to me 🙂 and how I can analyze your reaction. It looks simple to you? well, not so simple for me.
The bottom line is, how much can you put up with him doing this to you? Even I myself have my patience limit too.
Yep, I can see the smoke coming out of his ears with all his thinking.
I don't wait around for anyone. If he doesn't want to keep in contact for a while, I'll go out and do my own thing. Off to a cocktail party next weekend, and he's not invited ... hehe.
So I'll see my Virguy, when I see him - just wondered what goes on in their heads whilst they're distancing.
correct ,i agree you...i actually have done this" havent heard of you,everthing is ok" thing last week....and no response...
so ive started taking it as goodbye from him...i wanted to send him a Birthday wish tommorrow for his BD..but i think i shouldnt...it just gives him a feeling that im ok with his disappearance and still begging him to be back....i just let it go and whatever has to happen will happen...i did my part.
We need time for ourselves, we feel smothered easily...
We take this time to think out whatever problems we may have or have identified. We analyse and develop solutions to solve them. Alone time for us is very important.
I personally love solitude and think about many many things.
In terms of the relationship, occasionally I would fantasise about things we could do. I'm a very experienced dancer, so dancing often crosses my mind. Just because we are not talking to you, does not mean we are not thinking of you or that you are loosing us. It's just what we like.
I don't think sending him a birthday wish can be considered as you are begging him to be back. In any case, if you think you can be more happy without him, then just leave him behind. Why should we stay in relationship if you are not happy, we only live once you know 🙂.
i think i am dealing with a similar one..i also couldn't figure him out yet..and i am waiting for a while..this is my second virgo so it's easier i had the vaccin before
i know it's frustrating..but if he can't even for a birthday wish..i think it's illogical in the very logical world of a virgo..
but i know some of them don't like "the birthday" thing
Him not thanking you for it, means he is STILL preoccupied in his mind.
Now is indeed the easiest time to break up, If I were him I would not care much, however... good things can come if you wait it out without being pushy.
The three months is to sort out things that are stressing me. Rarely they tend to be emotions.
What I oft do is reevaluate all my friendships and relationships to see if they are worth it. I analyse and calculate who is useful and who is useless. Who is a waste of time and who I should give a chance.
I do get scared of anyone professing some kind of passion or love to me, it just is odd in my opinion. If there is no logic behind it, If I fail to understand it, I shy away.
We might not necessarily mimic, but for me it is like tit for tat. I throw you a line, you throw me one back, things are good I get you something nice and ask for nothing in return, you don't give, things are good I solve your problem/s, things are good You show appreciation of me sincerely, things are great
And yes, my brain will sort out the merit of the relationship.
Just please heed the fact I am the most cold person I know, he may not necessarily think this way.
I personally aspire to be as least human as possible.
No feelings, No emotions, No weakness
Yeah, people who do not spend enjoyable time with me and have no redeeming qualities are deemed useless and communications are vastly reduced.
Woah! Hold up! The feelings remain constant unless the person in question messes up. Or the Virgo gets bored and romance fizzles out.
As soon as we have taken our time, we go right back to everyone acting as though nothing has changed and that our down time did not exist and expect you all to do the same, even though subconciously we acknowledge it.
Things that can turn off a Virgo include -Ordering him around, Telling what to do -Any hostile behaviour without reason -Any passionate professions of love without reason -Playing with our heads -Teasing us with things you will never tell us -Physically harming us and jesting at our lack of retaliation
I dont have a problem with needing space, i am a Cap, and love my alone time..HOWEVER,what virgos need to consider is that they are dealing with others feelings. this is not a job,career,move,etc, that is being analyzed. the push/pull/disappearing act doesnt help the situation. obviously, in order to be with a virgo u need to be independent & patient..i dont understand why anyone would pull away for weeks,months when they have strong feelings for someone.. u might end up losing them in the end if u wait too long..doesnt make sense to me!
I am not a proponent of discussing things for the sake of discussing things, because it builds a kind of prejudice in your mind against a given zodiac sign, remember this stuff isn't written in stone, and not scientifically proven
if you have an issue with a particular virgo then posting it will give you an insight
I think virgos are hawk when it comes to emotions._t s not for that they dont love (push pull thing ) for becuse they dont know what to do with the thing ''love '' put on their lap.maybe they need a lifetime to give up that push pull thing .but if they reconcile with the fact that ''they are in love or only love itself '' they would be the best lovers in the world._ think they are great lovers behind the very very private walls covered them to protect them from love , emotions ; anything have much posibilty to hurt them. they are really too vulnerable when it comes to love and emotions so they need to protect themselves from be,mng hurt.any way _ love virguy/s.
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When these Virgo males are having their space and not in contact with you - what are they sorting out in their heads? What's going on up there? Do they still think about the women they are seeing? What's the space thing all about?
I'm a taurus, so I've got patience and a life that keeps me busy, and I can just wait for him to come back to me - not a problem. I'm curious as to what's going on for Virgo males at this time.
I'd love to hear from Virguys regarding this.