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My father and daughter are the most backstabbing people ever...My father and I have a strained relationship and we argue most times we are together. He has said some cruel things and I have tried to respect him to a point then I can't as he hurls insults. I give it back and then we don't speak for months..up to yrs. He trusts no one..not even me and he is old so me trying to help with health and home duties, he is always accusing me of something. It is so difficult with him and always has been. As a kid seeing him all over the world it was like he had these tests that if I failed I was doomed to be the worst kid ever so per him. He will throw me under a bus quick....for the sake of saving his face. I had to learn this about him the hard way. An expensive way. What I don't want is for him to fall and then I cannot help being so far away...but even if I was near and helped he would be nasty...it's just a tough position to be in.

My daughter..wishy washy lil fart and will pretend to go along with things then change her mind after money has been exchanged then say oh I never wanted it anyway.....I mean thousands of dollars wasted. So done with her. Been burnt too many times. She has Aquarius somewhere in her chart...

I hate to give up on family but sometimes it is best. A personal relationship with a stranger is different, we see people different we bend and we sacrifice. Funny how with our family we tend to say hell no and not be so flexible or so forgiving. Anyone else have family that is just tough to hang on to? Anyone raised by a Virgo parent?
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Did you just say you gave up on your daughter? Only because..

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My daughter..wishy washy lil fart and will pretend to go along with things then change her mind after money has been exchanged then say oh I never wanted it anyway.....I mean thousands of dollars wasted. So done with her. Been burnt too many times.



..?

Wow.

I'd understand abuse but she's probably a teenager (according to your age..either a teenager or somewhere in her early twenties) throwing a temper tantrum. And instead of managing that..you choose to give up on her? As a parent? Unbelievable.
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Posted by Damnata
Did you just say you gave up on your daughter? Only because..

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My daughter..wishy washy lil fart and will pretend to go along with things then change her mind after money has been exchanged then say oh I never wanted it anyway.....I mean thousands of dollars wasted. So done with her. Been burnt too many times.



..?

Wow.

I'd understand abuse but she's probably a teenager (according to your age..either a teenager or somewhere in her early twenties) throwing a temper tantrum. And instead of managing that..you choose to give up on her? As a parent? Unbelievable.
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it sounds like "enabling".

you give and give (money for example) and you know your family's personality, but you get upset anyway when it doesnt go your way? I don't think you'd ever be "done" with her. You're just frustrated.
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Posted by SpinCycle

My father and daughter are the most backstabbing people ever...







The majority of people tend to want to spread/share the negative aspects of their lives.

Certainly, there are things you love, admire and adore about these two people ... but, those things you don't embrace.

And this isn't really about you, rather this concept.

95% of every thread in here is centered around fucked up relationships. It's a no wonder that this world is as bad as it is.

do any of you care about why you love that person? Or is love just an expectation in your head that you carry around trying to see if anyone fits the bill?

this is your father and your daughter ... and look at how you talk about them so disrespectfully.


I thank my lucky stars every fucking day that I'm not like these kinds of people.
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You guys are funny...

My kid is 23...she is a scholar and was a virgin until she was 20. She never wanted for nothing...which is her problem. She just expects to always have instead of being responsible for her self. I have no control over her now that she is an adult I can only deal with the person she is. She though does not value people. She is selfish. If it's not about her then it's not important. As much as I try to hang in there with her I no different to her..just a commodity. I have paid for her college twice just for her to change her mind leave. She planned it, choose it and I paid for it...then as soon as the refund period passes she then changes her mind. Of course I'm not done with her as my daughter but on that level with money, yes I'm done. Sometimes we have to learn things the hard way.

My point with my father is that he is older...it is difficult to help him as he ages with his disposition. Tough situation..because putting a parent in a home if things ever went down hill with health was never an option for me. He is like my daughter..wishy washy will say one thing and then change his mind only after money has been used, something gave up or whatever. Just no value of people, their time or efforts.

Just wanted to see if anyone else had Virgo family members they could relate with....

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Posted by SpinCycle

My father and daughter are the most backstabbing people ever...







The majority of people tend to want to spread/share the negative aspects of their lives.

Certainly, there are things you love, admire and adore about these two people ... but, those things you don't embrace.

And this isn't really about you, rather this concept.

95% of every thread in here is centered around fucked up relationships. It's a no wonder that this world is as bad as it is.

do any of you care about why you love that person? Or is love just an expectation in your head that you carry around trying to see if anyone fits the bill?

this is your father and your daughter ... and look at how you talk about them so disrespectfully.


I thank my lucky stars every fucking day that I'm not like these kinds of people.
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P..maybe my wording for my frustrations for the moment could be wrong but yes I love my family...or I wouldn't be in debt or fussing about them. Sometimes when you answer you act as if your a robot...no emotions, no life nothing. I think the only time I saw you with emotion was when your husband had lost his job and you were concerned. I was shocked to read emotion. Oh and if someone here bugs the hell out of you and you need to put them on center stage to be patronized.

Never point fingers at people when you as well are human. I know in your life you have been angry, frustrated, hungry, horny, happy, pmsing, etc..just because you don't vocalize them doesn't make you better. It just makes you private. No one is perfect..and at times there are people/family who will get under the skin. If not these forums would not exist.

Some stuff you say is necessary..other stuff you say is just vacuous...maybe on those days you're having a funky day yourself. One bad trait about Pisces is the feeling of knowing it all and vocalizing it as if it's gold. I am guilty of doing it as well...I am actually doing it now in a small way. But remember this..how you come off by disrespecting others and name calling etc is a reflection of your soul. Lastly..you don't know me. What I post here isn't me. It doesn't portray who I am as a complete person. It's a situation. So the type of people you stated...are out there yes, but that isn't me. Respect me
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It got cut off....

Some stuff you say is necessary..other stuff you say is just vacuous...maybe on those days you're having a funky day yourself. One bad trait about Pisces is the feeling of knowing it all and vocalizing it as if it's gold. I am guilty of doing it as well...I am actually doing it now in a small way. But remember this..how you come off by disrespecting others and name calling etc is a reflection of your soul. Lastly..you don't know me. What I post here isn't me. It doesn't portray who I am as a complete person. It's a situation. So the type of people you stated...are out there yes, but that isn't me. Respect me and I will continue to respect you.
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Posted by SpinCycle

Sometimes we have to learn things the hard way.





lol ... you say the above to mean that the daughter must learn things the hard way, and so this is the reason why you would stop giving her money ....

when YOU are the person who made her that way - your brain is so puny that you think other people cannot put two and two together to realize that, "She never wanted for nothing" means you are the one who spoiled her.

So instead of actually doing right by her and start teaching her values 23 fucking years ago ... you are going to act like her being an adult and not knowing how to treat people is her problem. A problem that you have no fucking clue is your failure as a guide.

she was suppose to learn the hard way the moment she realized she had cognitive thinking processes .... but, instead she learned FROM YOU how to be unappreciative.

That's not her bad, dumbass ... it's yours


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... with my father .... He is like my daughter ... will say one thing and then change his mind only after money has been used ....

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the usage of money seems to be the theme here ... you could always try sincerity instead of the usage of money to try and buy your family
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SpinCycle,

I can see how much you love your family and you're feeling is hurt when they take that for granted. Your daughter does need you to teach her a lesson by put a halt on the resources you provided all these years and she took for granted. She is 23 yo, therefore she needs to go out there and look for her own resources.

I'm a Virgo and yes I am guilty of wishy washy way of life but I always thought that is because I have so much libra in me. The Virgo in me wants everything that I do to be perfect, thus it seems I'm wishy washy. But at home with parents, I learnt that perfection lives in all my imperfections. My parents raise me with tough love and a kid doesn't have a choice in their book as long as I still live under their roof and eat their food. My mother often said "you can do whatever you want once you are 26. until then, do this." Back then, I used to hate her but now I realize my life has been better because of it and I respect my parents more each day. Lots of my peers are struggling but I always know what to do and when to do it. I give that credit to my parents' teaching. I hope I can be there for them when they are old and need help. I am working on that right now. God willing.

I also have a virgo rising brother who is OMG so wishy washy. He would promise to do something but then changes his mind, esp when money involve. The way I handle him is I won't rely on him on anything. I give him a way out basically if he promised to do something for me. For example: if he promise he'd take me to see a movie I like, I would say oh wow bro thanks, yeah I'd love that. But in my heart I'd say ok let's not rely on that and I'll make a back up plan. I do this for years with him not knowing that I have back up plan.

This is not a good forum for you. Some of us here may not understand your situation because some of us may not have to care for our elder parents and younger daughter, like yourself. You are sandwiched in between and them being wishy washy way put a constant dent in your fixed nature (scorp rising and taurus moon) which can't stand it. Your pisces sun makes you emotional that when they hurt you, you get blinded by all that emotion that you basically can't think logically. You need to step back more often and give yourself some space from them. You have to understand that it's okay to step back and keep your space from them. It's necessary for your own sanity which the Virgos in your life depend on it.