What makes a virgo...

Lol what makes a virgo not want to see there child? Especially if they have a child that they do see from a previous relationship? Kind of curious about how to deal with this.. Its troubling to me....

I don't think that's a Virgo thing more like a persons lack of character.

Oh.. 😢

If you are hard to handle, hard to deal with .... then a man will choose not to see his child, in order stay away from you.


Since he sees his other child, that's a clear indication that he wants to takes his fatherhood seriously.


It becomes clear to me that you must be using this kid as a pawn to get to/with the Virgo.

Im not hard to deal with... He just tells me im very emotional or sensitive.... I get that way because I don't believe that he is being fair.... Ive told him numerous times lets just coparent cause i want the kid to have his father... I told him that for the kid sake i want this to work... Instead of seeing the kid he uses that as a way to keep me put... That annoys me. He is more focused on sleeping with me than seeing his baby. Example.. Id be like im passing your way to tomorrow to take the baby to see my aunt before she leaves.. Hed be like well after you drop the baby off if you can get away for a while then come spend some time with me. I'm like so you don't want to see the baby too? I can bring him the same time because I have to past you on the way home.. He would be like no thats ok... Id really like to be all over you... So im like well i don't think I can leave the baby so we could plan something for next time....

Posted by Shiesty

I told him that for the kid sake i want this to work...

Instead of seeing the kid he uses that as a way to keep me put...

What is the this that you are talking about?

What do you mean by a way to keep you put?

Posted by Shiesty


you: so you don't want to see the baby too? I can bring him the same time because I have to past you on the way home..

him: no thats ok... Id really like to be all over you...

you: i don't think I can leave the baby so we could plan something for next time....

So, when he tells you he doesnt' want to see the baby but DOES want to fuck you ..... instead of being "fair" for baby's sake and telling him to man up, you agree to make plans for another time so he can be all over you.

Again ..... it sounds to me like you are using the baby as a way to trap him, because you aren't taking this seriously.

You got pregnant on purpose, didn't you? to try and force him into taking you seriously, didn't you.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by Shiesty

I told him that for the kid sake i want this to work...


Instead of seeing the kid he uses that as a way to keep me put...

What is the this that you are talking about?

What do you mean by a way to keep you put?

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This would be coparenting. I don't want the kid to grow up without a father. I would like for him to be an active part of the child life... Even if we are not together.. Im trying to get him to understand that even if we are not together i will always want him to be apart of raising the child.. I love him and respect him with or without the personal relationship.
Keeping me put means he doesn't show any interest in a real relationship or what i think a real relationship should be like so if i try to pull away emotionally and move on its a big problem to him.. He gets angry anddoesn't want me to speak to or spend time with other men... Yet he isnt here for us. He expects me to be completely available to him when he wants me. Its confusing

And what part of that is confusing?

Let's be fair both of us know the consequences of having sex without protection.

Why did you make a child with a man who is only fwb?

Why did you have unprotected sex with a person who you can't trust?



This whole thing is so bizarre to me.

Posted by Shiesty
Let's be fair both of us know the consequences of having sex without protection.

wtf?

fair?


You keep saying "fair" as if that is an explanation and excuse as to why you are irresponsible.

All of it is confusing because I don't know what he wants... I did not tell him make plans for us to have sex but make plans where all of us including the child can be together because he claims he doesn't want me to just drop the baby off to him... I see that as a cop out... Daddy duty. Isnt what he wants.

This man does not want you except as a piece of ass, and you know it .... but, you are barking about what is 'fair"?


How dense can a person possibly be?


People lay in the beds they make, that is how life works. You made this situation, so now take some fucking responsibility for it, and stop complaining.

Look i give up because you don't understand me at all. Thank you for your time and contributions. Ill try to understand what you are telling me.... Thanks

Posted by Shiesty

All of it is confusing because I don't know what he wants

Posted by Shiesty

you: so you don't want to see the baby too? I can bring him the same time because I have to past you on the way home..

him: no thats ok... Id really like to be all over you...

Posted by Shiesty

Keeping me put means he doesn't show any interest in a real relationship

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I can't deal with you. I've tried to be nice and reason with you, but, my brain isn't wired to understand people who are this stupid.

Maybe someone else has the ability to cope with something this ignorant.


over and out

Its funny you would say that.. Thanks once again

Posted by Shiesty
Lol what makes a virgo not want to see there child? Especially if they have a child that they do see from a previous relationship? Kind of curious about how to deal with this.. Its troubling to me....

Depending on how old he is, he is most likely not ready to step up to the responsibility of having a child. Im pretty sure during your pregnancy, he made that very clear to you in several different ways. But due to your belief system,or idea, or hope that he would change, you carried out with it. Let me make it clear, that you were not wrong, but you basically create a situation where you know how he felt and you was hoping that the baby would morally make him do the right thing. Some Virgos tend to mature later than others, you are trying to force him to be somebody he's not, and the only thing that will change that is age and life experience, He will wake up one day and want to be in the childs life, but right now,he is not ready. He still wants the sexual relationship that yall had, thats all he signed up for right now. You have changed the relationship, and you ar4e trying to force him into a situation that he is not ready for. And even though in your realm of reality, your perspective, he should change out of his old ways and become a father. But thats not the unspoken contract agreement he signed up for, so until he is ready to step into the father role. You will waste your time hating a person who is not ready to do what YOU want them to do. In turn, putting the child in a messed up situation, because you have two people with two totally different perspectives on life being your parents, The only thing you can do is instill as much love in your child, try to lessen the resentment towards their father for not being there, and hope that your baby's father matures and steps into your child's life before its too late. Not having a father damages a lot of people into adulthood without them knowing. It was a sexual relationship that went too far, where lust was more overpowered than love and a child was created from it. Your child will have to live with this, and the best case scenario is that in a few years your baby father will enter your childs life before it is too late. If you continue the lust relationship, you need to make him understand it involves helping a little with the child. TBH if you cut that part off, you probably will cut dude out of your life all together for a few months or years, because ultimately thats what yall agreed upon. You both were wrong, not super religious, but thats why the book says dont have sex or children until you are married. You have to deal with the consequences now, it can work, but being over emotional and trying to force him to be a faher will not be in the best interest of your child right now. You need to get him to be in the child life without making it seem like you are forcing him. ,

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
He probably does not believe its his.. Lol

Which could very well be true, considering the circumstances.

@LadyOfRebirth that could it... I thought so too... Unfortunately he is refusing to take a dna test.. Maybe he is waiting to see the resemblance? Idk @Virgotruth... I appreciate your feedback... That might be the case thanks..

You intentionally made a child with a person to whom you made ZERO terms ... and now you want to cry about this bad choice you made.

You are going to be hard-pressed to find a sympathetic ear.

But, there is good news !!!


Now that I said that ..... people will rush to lower their own standards by enabling you.


Just wait for it ..... and then you and them can rejoice in the bliss of ignorance.

Posted by Shiesty

Unfortunately he is refusing to take a dna test..

You're kidding !!!!!

Why on earth would you attempt to make him take a dna test? And you must be reinforcing this demand upon him in order for him to be refusing, which is a continuous form of the verb, "refuse". this means he's being hounded. If he had been asked once, you would have said refused.

Why is that unfortunate, exactly?


Your priorities are backwards .. it is fortunate that you are able to be exposed to his true nature, by measuring his (actions) of refusal in his responsibilities.

You have an agenda, obviously, and that agenda is to trick, trap, manipulate this man any way possible to get what you want from him ... regardless .....


So, since you've made up your mind that standards mean nothing to you ... what is the point of this thread?

Are you asking what game others play in order to get their man?

@P-Angel i cant hate you for your response or opinion... I did ask for it. Fact is im at my breaking point so im more than willing to take all the help that i can get. I am still very young so if someones willing to teach im willing to learn. Thanks again for the responses i wont respond again but i will take take in everything... Swallow what tastes right and spit out what doesnt.. Lol.

Clearly, the Virgo sees what I see in you ... that's why you aren't being taken for value.


So long as you remain ignorant to your reality .... he will always toy with you, as probably will every man.

Posted by Shiesty

im at my breaking point

What do you mean by: "at my breaking point"?

You already have an agenda. Perhaps that's why you're fractured ..... it happens to every person who is close minded.

Posted by Shiesty

Maybe he is waiting to see the resemblance? Idk

Why don't you know?

So, you are actively sleeping with a guy that you don't talk to, you don't even know his wants or dislikes?

You have a child with a person in where you say "you don't know" about how he feels or what his goals are?

do you even know this guy? or what it just a one night stand?


I don't get it. You open your legs to a man that you don't even know? And now you're crying his foul?


At what point are you going to be responsible for yourself? Whether he wants you, or not. Whether he wants your baby, or not -is irrelevant. He doesn't matter.

You are giving him all your personal power to let him decide your demise. How irrational is that?

If you aren't going to make your own choices, and stand for your own values .... to let another person decide your worth for you ... then this is the bed you make.


lay in it and stfu

Posted by starwars
might I ask about the background of the story? what kind of relationship you had before the pregnancy?

We were in a relationship for almost a year.... Dated for 2months before the relationship... And were just friends for like three months before that. Fast tracking to the relationship... We had a moment of weakness.... He knew the moment he cum in me there was a possibility that a child would be created. I kept him aware of everything it was words were "baby.. Just wait and see" i was hysterical i wont lie if there

How could you be in a relationship with someone for a year + and not know what they want, or how they feel?


You feign being confused and saying things like idk to questions asked ... when in reality, after a year + of being with someone, you should know them backwards and forwards .... especially considering a baby was made.


Again ...at what point are you going to take responsibility?


Are you one of those 22 yo teenagers that mummy has sitting on the couch in nappies, while she feeds you and does your laundry? .... because it just doesn't make sense otherwise.

An adult is going to act like one. And you are acting like your life choices are totally dependent upon someone else .... *** see sentence above

I don't understand where the doubt comes in WITH ME... Yeah he told me things his son mother did and how many people lied to him about false pregnancies. Im his woman i trust him why put what oothers have done on me. He is supposed to know me better and expect better

Posted by Shiesty

Im his woman

No, you're not. Not even close.

You are a piece of ass, and nothing more ... the reason why he doubts you and doesnt' have faith in you is because you fuck him without terms.

Posted by Shiesty
Lol what makes a virgo not want to see there child? Especially if they have a child that they do see from a previous relationship? Kind of curious about how to deal with this.. Its troubling to me....

Question: how old is his other child, and did you know about his other child prior to conceiving yours??