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Hi,

I have an inner circle, like any Taurus, I develop paternal feelings when a female Friend deals with shitty Guy. I make it a point to talk to them in private when

they get introduced, when they play Mindgames I feel the urge to pull them aside and threaten them. I also want to casually sharpen my knife, when they

are at my place. Its a ritual in Germany that fathers do. I know a father who used to do Kickbox Competitions whenever his daughter brought a boy over,

he would ignore them but polish his Kickboxmedals and disassemble his hunting rifle in the living room and clean it. Is it just me or is it a taurus thing?
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Blah blah blah harem hoe shit.


Thx, I halfwanted to be called out, I often didnt do anything cause they are adults, and I would feel like

a weirdo . My friends are 20 or 30 somethings not teenies. And if they are willing to deal with shitty people rather than move on I often discovr that they have issues themselves and are part of the problem, not some innocent kids who are victimized.
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Blah blah blah harem hoe shit.

Thx, I halfwanted to be called out, I often didnt do anything cause they are adults, and I would feel like

a weirdo . My friends are 20 or 30 somethings not teenies. And if they are willing to deal with shitty people rather than move on I often discovr that they have issues themselves and are part of the problem, not some innocent kids who are victimized.

Its really hard to move on if you're being abused in a relationship.
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Which makes it even harder to help them, and maybe you are not even the right person to help them. Thats probably

where therapists come in. Its not just jealousy I genuinely want to hurt abusive people cause I can feel the pain they inflict to others.
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please don't call women females.

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Do you refer to men as "males"?
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Nah, but if you talk about friends who are female you have to underline that we are not talking about Women I fuck but

friends are people who are just my friends who happen to have the gender female. But I got your memo, from now on I say women friends. Bitches is not okay either? To me its like this:

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You probably just want to have a kid, in all seriousness. start a family and there won’t be any time left for drama.

Or so i hear!

He’ll end up with a daughter to sharpen knives over.
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I dont know many english expressions what does that mean? And jeane I think I get it. Either everybody is a thinskinned

Sjw, or women have to deal with sexist wording everyday and/or I am oblivious to that. Do Women hear degrading

language everyday? I am oblivious but openminded.
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You probably just want to have a kid, in all seriousness. start a family and there won’t be any time left for drama.

Or so i hear!

He’ll end up with a daughter to sharpen knives over.

I dont know many english expressions what does that mean? And jeane I think I get it. Either everybody is a thinskinned

Sjw, or women have to deal with sexist wording everyday and/or I am oblivious to that. Do Women hear degrading

language everyday? I am oblivious but openminded.

SJW as an acronym is pejorative. Regardless, language structures are developed out of cultural and social structures. Since the majority of those were determined by men, a female perspective hasn’t been a priority.

Just like how men are always Mr. but women have their title based on their marital status/historical based on what relationship they had to men by Mrs., Miss, etc. Ms. came about as an alternative but it was not originally considered. That’s another example.
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I just looked up pejorative in a dictionary and when I used SJW it was definetly meant to be pejorative. Where I come from, people are very

loose with their wording yet nobody is offended and I find it annoying to be lectured on why my wording is hurtful. I label that as "unwanted mami scolding". I honestly dont know what my stance is. I find that some people use the term toxic masculinity when they run out of arguments and try to take the moral highground or they use the term just plain incorrectly. This american Metoo/SJW/Feminist stuff i see online seems to

be sensational, emotionally charged, incoherent. Do you have a source with valid facts that could change my "reasoning" ? You talk like an academic person.
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You probably just want to have a kid, in all seriousness. start a family and there won’t be any time left for drama.

Or so i hear!

He’ll end up with a daughter to sharpen knives over.

I dont know many english expressions what does that mean? And jeane I think I get it. Either everybody is a thinskinned

Sjw, or women have to deal with sexist wording everyday and/or I am oblivious to that. Do Women hear degrading

language everyday? I am oblivious but openminded.

SJW as an acronym is pejorative. Regardless, language structures are developed out of cultural and social structures. Since the majority of those were determined by men, a female perspective hasn’t been a priority.

Just like how men are always Mr. but women have their title based on their marital status/historical based on what relationship they had to men by Mrs., Miss, etc. Ms. came about as an alternative but it was not originally considered. That’s another example.

I just looked up pejorative in a dictionary and when I used SJW it was definetly meant to be pejorative. Where I come from, people are very

loose with their wording yet nobody is offended and I find it annoying to be lectured on why my wording is hurtful. I label that as "unwanted mami scolding". I honestly dont know what my stance is. I find that some people use the term toxic masculinity when they run out of arguments and try to take the moral highground or they use the term just plain incorrectly. This american Metoo/SJW/Feminist stuff i see online seems to

be sensational, emotionally charged, incoherent. Do you have a source with valid facts that could change my "reasoning" ? You talk like an academic person.

My source is academia. Women up until a few centuries ago were considered on the same level of being as plants and animals and not on par with humanity. Though scientifically we are animals.

The problem is you are looking online and on social media to form your opinions instead of history and criticism. That’s the issue.
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I dont have an opinion at all, I am just preemptively closedminded because of my first impression online. What is your source? Please recommend me a good paper
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Man or Woman. Girl or Boy. Male or female. Doesn't matter.

If I see things I know will not work for them or more then a couple things that are bad news in general. I'll give them a heads. A real friend speaks up and asks WTH is up with that? I usually ask them to talk to them about it and try to hash it out.

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At the end of the day it's there choice. No point in being aggressive about it. In fact it can be used against you. Some of the most messed up people will isolate their targets. They will flip that on you.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

Did you watch the video? Because he explains the difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Yeah did you read his OP? Adjective, not that it matters. It's still perfectly applicable as a noun.

Y'all digging up BS out of nothing at all.

Keep dismissing women. Live in your limited world. I don't care.
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Would you consider the possibility that its not really dismissing women, just using wording without thinking about it?

Like if you are around aggressive fire signs when they get impatient and say STFU for a fucking second or Hey Asshole listen to me they are not intentionally putting you down in demeaning way, they are expressing their emotions instantly. And if

you confront them and dissect their wording they will be genuinely baffled. What about that possibility?
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

Did you watch the video? Because he explains the difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Yeah did you read his OP? Adjective, not that it matters. It's still perfectly applicable as a noun.

Y'all digging up BS out of nothing at all.

Keep dismissing women. Live in your limited world. I don't care.

Disagreeing with stupid people isn't dismissing women.

Some of the smartest women on this site are the one's making the point. I'd put my IQ up against yours. Wanna spar?

And that makes it right? Because it isn't, OP wasn't using female in a derogatory fashion. He's using it exactly as the English language intended.

Now you want a fight lmfao?
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it's not "as the english language intended". it is grammatically incorrect.

to be certain, i don't think that the op intended to be derogatory but the term when used that way is offensive to some.

personally, it grates. clearly for others it does as well. it dehumanises women to use it as a noun not to mention that it is unnecessary when a word already exists.

i'm struggling to see what your objection is.

some women find it offensive. it makes no material difference to you for you to use the correct term for adult human female and yet you choose not to. so, does that mean you deliberately wish to offend women by using the term?
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Posted by Scheherazade
Posted by tiziani

You probably just want to have a kid, in all seriousness. start a family and there won’t be any time left for drama.

Or so i hear!

He’ll end up with a daughter to sharpen knives over.

I dont know many english expressions what does that mean? And jeane I think I get it. Either everybody is a thinskinned

Sjw, or women have to deal with sexist wording everyday and/or I am oblivious to that. Do Women hear degrading

language everyday? I am oblivious but openminded.

SJW as an acronym is pejorative. Regardless, language structures are developed out of cultural and social structures. Since the majority of those were determined by men, a female perspective hasn’t been a priority.

Just like how men are always Mr. but women have their title based on their marital status/historical based on what relationship they had to men by Mrs., Miss, etc. Ms. came about as an alternative but it was not originally considered. That’s another example.

I just looked up pejorative in a dictionary and when I used SJW it was definetly meant to be pejorative. Where I come from, people are very

loose with their wording yet nobody is offended and I find it annoying to be lectured on why my wording is hurtful. I label that as "unwanted mami scolding". I honestly dont know what my stance is. I find that some people use the term toxic masculinity when they run out of arguments and try to take the moral highground or they use the term just plain incorrectly. This american Metoo/SJW/Feminist stuff i see online seems to

be sensational, emotionally charged, incoherent. Do you have a source with valid facts that could change my "reasoning" ? You talk like an academic person.
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i'm sorry if my request has annoyed you. i'm certainly not lecturing you. i made a polite suggestion. I'm not hurt by it. it's a modern way of speaking that i think is unnecessary and is used by some to demean women. i've asked if you could consider using the correct term.
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We would never have a lengthy discussion about nouns and adjectives if it wasnt for Corona. I could`ve written Women Friends.

I will next time. I just asked because I came across people use small choice of words like this to take the moral high ground,

accuse me of sexism, and I find that disruptive and disturbing cause I am very literal and logical so sudden, dramatic emotionally charged Statements and accusations and framing a statement as an offensive act of gender discrimination and therefore changing the subject is are very irritating, and disruptive and infuriating. I HATE THAT. I walk away thinking that

my discussion partner is framing herself as a victim, reinforcing the stereotype of women being bitchy and hysterical, being intellectually lazy and just overall unpleasant as a person.

I hoped that you people would shed light on that. Thx.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

Did you watch the video? Because he explains the difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Yeah did you read his OP? Adjective, not that it matters. It's still perfectly applicable as a noun.

Y'all digging up BS out of nothing at all.

Keep dismissing women. Live in your limited world. I don't care.

Disagreeing with stupid people isn't dismissing women.

Some of the smartest women on this site are the one's making the point. I'd put my IQ up against yours. Wanna spar?

And that makes it right? Because it isn't, OP wasn't using female in a derogatory fashion. He's using it exactly as the English language intended.

Now you want a fight lmfao?

it's not "as the english language intended". it is grammatically incorrect.

to be certain, i don't think that the op intended to be derogatory but the term when used that way is offensive to some.

personally, it grates. clearly for others it does as well. it dehumanises women to use it as a noun not to mention that it is unnecessary when a word already exists.

i'm struggling to see what your objection is.

some women find it offensive. it makes no material difference to you for you to use the correct term for adult human female and yet you choose not to. so, does that mean you deliberately wish to offend women by using the term?

Nah, it's a great word, I like using it. I see your point though. But I don't think you have any right to control language used by men or anyone for that matter, just as it suits you.
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but you're using it incorrectly. i'm not trying to control your language. it's about speaking english and giving words meaning. using the term in the way you think is great is derogatory.

knowing that and continuing to do so you are intentionally using the word in a derogatory manner which is the objection of some of the women in this thread. you prove our point. thank you.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

Did you watch the video? Because he explains the difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Yeah did you read his OP? Adjective, not that it matters. It's still perfectly applicable as a noun.

Y'all digging up BS out of nothing at all.

Keep dismissing women. Live in your limited world. I don't care.

Disagreeing with stupid people isn't dismissing women.

Some of the smartest women on this site are the one's making the point. I'd put my IQ up against yours. Wanna spar?

And that makes it right? Because it isn't, OP wasn't using female in a derogatory fashion. He's using it exactly as the English language intended.

Now you want a fight lmfao?

it's not "as the english language intended". it is grammatically incorrect.

to be certain, i don't think that the op intended to be derogatory but the term when used that way is offensive to some.

personally, it grates. clearly for others it does as well. it dehumanises women to use it as a noun not to mention that it is unnecessary when a word already exists.

i'm struggling to see what your objection is.

some women find it offensive. it makes no material difference to you for you to use the correct term for adult human female and yet you choose not to. so, does that mean you deliberately wish to offend women by using the term?

Nah, it's a great word, I like using it. I see your point though. But I don't think you have any right to control language used by men or anyone for that matter, just as it suits you.

but you're using it incorrectly. i'm not trying to control your language. it's about speaking english and giving words meaning. using the term in the way you think is great is derogatory.

knowing that and continuing to do so you are intentionally using the word in a derogatory manner which is the objection of some of the women in this thread. you prove our point. thank you.

That isn't incorrect use though. In the tittle a little bit but not really.
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female is not a noun. to use it as a noun is incorrect. it describes something. it is not, in itself, something.

say human female, female person, all correct but just female on it's own?
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

Did you watch the video? Because he explains the difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Yeah did you read his OP? Adjective, not that it matters. It's still perfectly applicable as a noun.

Y'all digging up BS out of nothing at all.

Keep dismissing women. Live in your limited world. I don't care.

Disagreeing with stupid people isn't dismissing women.

Some of the smartest women on this site are the one's making the point. I'd put my IQ up against yours. Wanna spar?

And that makes it right? Because it isn't, OP wasn't using female in a derogatory fashion. He's using it exactly as the English language intended.

Now you want a fight lmfao?

it's not "as the english language intended". it is grammatically incorrect.

to be certain, i don't think that the op intended to be derogatory but the term when used that way is offensive to some.

personally, it grates. clearly for others it does as well. it dehumanises women to use it as a noun not to mention that it is unnecessary when a word already exists.

i'm struggling to see what your objection is.

some women find it offensive. it makes no material difference to you for you to use the correct term for adult human female and yet you choose not to. so, does that mean you deliberately wish to offend women by using the term?

Nah, it's a great word, I like using it. I see your point though. But I don't think you have any right to control language used by men or anyone for that matter, just as it suits you.

but you're using it incorrectly. i'm not trying to control your language. it's about speaking english and giving words meaning. using the term in the way you think is great is derogatory.

knowing that and continuing to do so you are intentionally using the word in a derogatory manner which is the objection of some of the women in this thread. you prove our point. thank you.

That isn't incorrect use though. In the tittle a little bit but not really.

female is not a noun. to use it as a noun is incorrect. it describes something. it is not, in itself, something.

say human female, female person, all correct but just female on it's own?

Female is a noun and an adjective.

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-hmd-rev2&ei=eqO9XvGGEKPB3LUPueGR-Ac&q=is+female+a+noun&oq=is+female+a+noun&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyAggAMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BAgAEEc6AggpOgQIABBDOgUIABCDAToCCC46BQgAEJECUM9gWI-PAWCMlAFoAXABeASAAYIDiAHfLZIBBjItMTguM5gBAKABAbABDw&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp<div class="bqfade">click to expand


but it needs a qualifier.

https://jezebel.com/the-problem-with-calling-women-females-1683808274

it goes back to the point that some women find it offensive. you're using it knowing it is offensive to some. so from that we can deduce that you are ok with offending women. which proves the point that it is used to be offensive.
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?
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because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?
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it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?

it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.

Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".
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right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.

but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?

it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.

Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".

right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.

but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.

No it doesn't. It refers to any organism that can produce egg, to which it includes human being.
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exactly, any organism. not only humans.
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?

it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.

Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".

right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.

but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.

No it doesn't. It refers to any organism that can produce egg, to which it includes human being.

Do you not understand that this is a cultural and contextual phenomenon? Calling a woman "female" was unheard of until about 15 years ago. It just never happened.

I'm just going by dictionary definition. Nothing more.
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this might help

https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/woman-versus-female-0
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?

it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.

Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".

right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.

but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.

No it doesn't. It refers to any organism that can produce egg, to which it includes human being.

exactly, any organism. not only humans.

Yes, so by definition, it doesn't remove the human part.
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it does because it doesn't acknowledge it when talking about women.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

Did you watch the video? Because he explains the difference between using it as an adjective and a noun.

Yeah did you read his OP? Adjective, not that it matters. It's still perfectly applicable as a noun.

Y'all digging up BS out of nothing at all.

Keep dismissing women. Live in your limited world. I don't care.

Disagreeing with stupid people isn't dismissing women.

Some of the smartest women on this site are the one's making the point. I'd put my IQ up against yours. Wanna spar?

And that makes it right? Because it isn't, OP wasn't using female in a derogatory fashion. He's using it exactly as the English language intended.

Now you want a fight lmfao?

it's not "as the english language intended". it is grammatically incorrect.

to be certain, i don't think that the op intended to be derogatory but the term when used that way is offensive to some.

personally, it grates. clearly for others it does as well. it dehumanises women to use it as a noun not to mention that it is unnecessary when a word already exists.

i'm struggling to see what your objection is.

some women find it offensive. it makes no material difference to you for you to use the correct term for adult human female and yet you choose not to. so, does that mean you deliberately wish to offend women by using the term?

Nah, it's a great word, I like using it. I see your point though. But I don't think you have any right to control language used by men or anyone for that matter, just as it suits you.

but you're using it incorrectly. i'm not trying to control your language. it's about speaking english and giving words meaning. using the term in the way you think is great is derogatory.

knowing that and continuing to do so you are intentionally using the word in a derogatory manner which is the objection of some of the women in this thread. you prove our point. thank you.

That isn't incorrect use though. In the tittle a little bit but not really.

female is not a noun. to use it as a noun is incorrect. it describes something. it is not, in itself, something.

say human female, female person, all correct but just female on it's own?

Female is a noun and an adjective.

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-hmd-rev2&ei=eqO9XvGGEKPB3LUPueGR-Ac&q=is+female+a+noun&oq=is+female+a+noun&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyAggAMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BAgAEEc6AggpOgQIABBDOgUIABCDAToCCC46BQgAEJECUM9gWI-PAWCMlAFoAXABeASAAYIDiAHfLZIBBjItMTguM5gBAKABAbABDw&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

but it needs a qualifier.

https://jezebel.com/the-problem-with-calling-women-females-1683808274

it goes back to the point that some women find it offensive. you're using it knowing it is offensive to some. so from that we can deduce that you are ok with offending women. which proves the point that it is used to be offensive.

Yeah im totally fine with offending women, why wouldn't I be?
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱
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female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.
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please don't call women females.

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Wtf

What's confusing, Male?

Who cares?

The people who spoke up about it in this thread, obviously. Women.

no not women, only you 2 morons
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lol, glad to know your knowledge of the topic only goes as far as this thread. keep up the good work.
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? 😕

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?

it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.

Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".

right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.

but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.

No it doesn't. It refers to any organism that can produce egg, to which it includes human being.

exactly, any organism. not only humans.

Yes, so by definition, it doesn't remove the human part.

it does because it doesn't acknowledge it when talking about women.

I disagree, but I am not trying to dismiss your POV or Fanta's. I just want to add to please consider though that when someone else is using the term "female" to a woman, there is probably a high probability that they aren't using it in a degrading sort of way to the woman in question.
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i absolutely agree with you. they probably aren't. it really is a symptom of the general devaluing we have of women and women's contribution throughout our societies.
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please don't call women females.

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Wtf

What's confusing, Male?

Who cares?

The people who spoke up about it in this thread, obviously. Women.

no not women, only you 2 morons

lol, glad to know your knowledge of the topic only goes as far as this thread. keep up the good work.

Bro your brain is loose. I never see you voice your thoughts on police brutality on blacks yet you here talking nonsense about using the word "female" what planet are you from
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if that was my personal experience, i would be front and centre. needless to say it's a deplorable and inexcusable aspect of our society and no one in their right minds could say anything but that.

however as a middle aged, middle class white woman living in the north of england, i don't have a lot of encounters of police brutality on blacks to speak of and I am more than happy to listen and be schooled in others experience.

the awfulness of police brutality doesn't negate what we are saying though.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.
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But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

Except we aren’t saying it’s wrong to say female friends
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I understand you’re making a point about the context it was used in. I don’t he used it incorrectly
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.
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it's more the title that raised my hackles. i know it's not intentional.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

it's more the title that raised my hackles. i know it's not intentional.
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Sure, initially I didn’t want everyone ganging up on him, as he isn’t a native English speaker 😂😂

But I do get him. As a Cancerian woman I definitely baby Taurean male friends. I don’t do that with other signs. Not sure why the maternal side comes out more with them 👶🍼😂😂😂
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".
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Thanks, I spotted that one Jeanne mentioned it. No harm done 😂
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you

from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

Except we aren’t saying it’s wrong to say female friends

I understand you’re making a point about the context it was used in. I don’t he used it incorrectly

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Don’t worry I got it, I watched the clip you posted from you tube. It made sense. Also realise everyone were actually talking about the title of the thread.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

it's more the title that raised my hackles. i know it's not intentional.

Sure, initially I didn’t want everyone ganging up on him, as he isn’t a native English speaker 😂😂

But I do get him. As a Cancerian woman I definitely baby Taurean male friends. I don’t do that with other signs. Not sure why the maternal side comes out more with them 👶🍼😂😂😂
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Cause we have that ferdinand the bull chewing grass with demure eyes unaffected by the day to day hectic vibe. I dont know how else to describe it.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

it's more the title that raised my hackles. i know it's not intentional.

Sure, initially I didn’t want everyone ganging up on him, as he isn’t a native English speaker 😂😂

But I do get him. As a Cancerian woman I definitely baby Taurean male friends. I don’t do that with other signs. Not sure why the maternal side comes out more with them 👶🍼😂😂😂
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Cause we have that ferdinand the bull chewing grass with demure eyes unaffected by the day to day hectic vibe. I dont know how else to describe it.
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I wouldn't be bothered by being referred to as a male. So I don't get why some of you female users are so hot and bothered by it.

And lastly. @parkourler I like to apologise on my behalf crashing on your thread with a post that's unrelated to the topic. I just so happen to browse thru this thread on a whim out of boredom saw some crying going on and wanted to see what all the fuss is about.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

it's more the title that raised my hackles. i know it's not intentional.

Sure, initially I didn’t want everyone ganging up on him, as he isn’t a native English speaker 😂😂

But I do get him. As a Cancerian woman I definitely baby Taurean male friends. I don’t do that with other signs. Not sure why the maternal side comes out more with them 👶🍼😂😂😂

Cause we have that ferdinand the bull chewing grass with demure eyes unaffected by the day to day hectic vibe. I dont know how else to describe it.
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Urgh 🙄 It’s those puppy doe eyed look 👶 🐶 that diffuses my resting bitch face (cap rising) 😂 Taurus men mellow us out.

But you’ve described it as true. Although you’re overboard in the protective nature of your friends. I get the Taureans are very possessive of everything and everyone, so it’s in you’re nature.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".
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I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question

Why so offended by your words.

When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🥱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in 🤔 he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said “those females” then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".

I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question

Why so offended by your words.

When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.

Dude you talk as you do

These rules from when 2020? Those are rules? No never heard of it.
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Yes you did, this word is good, that word is bad, dont call a guy a little bitch when he doesnt want to finish his whiskey etc etc. I think you know all that. If you get called out and reprimanded for not conforming then you are enforcing rules. but thx

I talk as I do.
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