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Posted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by FantaPosted by IsoldePosted by jeanePosted by IsoldePosted by Snakes_N_Ladders
Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.
Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.
I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting š„±
female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.
But that is the context the poster used it in š¤ he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesnāt have paternal instincts toward male friends.
However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said āthose femalesā then I can understand why itās sounds derogatory.
He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".
I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question
Why so offended by your words.
When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.
Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.
Lmao
*grin*
I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.
Itās so self pitying thoclick to expand

Posted by jeanePosted by xoxflute
It's kinda like saying we shouldn't be referring to a woman as a human because a human can be a man too. Or to say that a car isn't a vehicle because a vehicle can be a truck.
you can be both human and female.
you can be a human and male.
you can be a vehicle and a truck
you can be a canine and a wolf.
you can't however be female (or male) and only human.click to expand

Posted by FantaPosted by xoxflute
But I noted on the part of where some do not like to be called "female".
Sorry, Organism. I'm tired of arguing with you. Have a nice day, Vertabrate. Don't worry about it too much, Mammal. šclick to expand

Posted by jeanePosted by xoxflutePosted by jeanePosted by xoxflutePosted by jeanePosted by xoxflutePosted by jeanePosted by xoxflutePosted by jeanePosted by xoxflutePosted by jeanePosted by xoxflutePosted by jeanePosted by xoxflute
Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? š
they mean different things.
it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.
Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?
because women is specifically referring to humans.
female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.
woman is not the same as female.
So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?
it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.
Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".
right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.
but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.
No it doesn't. It refers to any organism that can produce egg, to which it includes human being.
exactly, any organism. not only humans.
Yes, so by definition, it doesn't remove the human part.
it does because it doesn't acknowledge it when talking about women.
I disagree, but I am not trying to dismiss your POV or Fanta's. I just want to add to please consider though that when someone else is using the term "female" to a woman, there is probably a high probability that they aren't using it in a degrading sort of way to the woman in question.
i absolutely agree with you. they probably aren't. it really is a symptom of the general devaluing we have of women and women's contribution throughout our societies.click to expand

Posted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by FantaPosted by IsoldePosted by jeanePosted by IsoldePosted by Snakes_N_Ladders
Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.
Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.
I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting š„±
female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.
But that is the context the poster used it in š¤ he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesnāt have paternal instincts toward male friends.
However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said āthose femalesā then I can understand why itās sounds derogatory.
He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".
I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question
Why so offended by your words.
When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.
Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.
Lmao
*grin*
I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.
Itās so self pitying tho
Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.
I was definitely not trying to be part of slapping you, no disrespect meant to LS, because I get where she's coming from, but I want to understand and I don't like when I get too into the argument to listen. I meant it when I said I appreciated hearing about how it made you feel because that's instructive to me. I use this place as a verbal dumping ground...a lot. I should be more careful about leaving the sort of impact behind that I want to leave...click to expand


Posted by IsoldePosted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by FantaPosted by IsoldePosted by jeanePosted by IsoldePosted by Snakes_N_Ladders
Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.
Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.
I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting š„±
female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.
But that is the context the poster used it in š¤ he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesnāt have paternal instincts toward male friends.
However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said āthose femalesā then I can understand why itās sounds derogatory.
He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".
I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question
Why so offended by your words.
When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.
Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.
Lmao
*grin*
I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.
Itās so self pitying tho
Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.
I was definitely not trying to be part of slapping you, no disrespect meant to LS, because I get where she's coming from, but I want to understand and I don't like when I get too into the argument to listen. I meant it when I said I appreciated hearing about how it made you feel because that's instructive to me. I use this place as a verbal dumping ground...a lot. I should be more careful about leaving the sort of impact behind that I want to leave...
Thatās a really nice message āŗļø
The irony of this thread.... was that no one paid attention to the cultural sensitivity that heās not a native English speaker. But loudly going on about their subjective opinions on how it makes them feel.click to expand

Posted by ParkourlerPosted by IsoldePosted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by FantaPosted by ParkourlerPosted by FantaPosted by IsoldePosted by jeanePosted by IsoldePosted by Snakes_N_Ladders
Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.
Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.
I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting š„±
female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.
But that is the context the poster used it in š¤ he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesnāt have paternal instincts toward male friends.
However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said āthose femalesā then I can understand why itās sounds derogatory.
He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".
I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question
Why so offended by your words.
When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.
Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.
Lmao
*grin*
I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.
Itās so self pitying tho
Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.
I was definitely not trying to be part of slapping you, no disrespect meant to LS, because I get where she's coming from, but I want to understand and I don't like when I get too into the argument to listen. I meant it when I said I appreciated hearing about how it made you feel because that's instructive to me. I use this place as a verbal dumping ground...a lot. I should be more careful about leaving the sort of impact behind that I want to leave...
Thatās a really nice message āŗļø
The irony of this thread.... was that no one paid attention to the cultural sensitivity that heās not a native English speaker. But loudly going on about their subjective opinions on how it makes them feel.
Maybe its better that way, that spirited back and forth is addicting. I thought we germans are rigid.
I thought having very specific and narrow thoughts how about we should conduct ourselfs is exclusively our turf.
So everybody back off and make way for the Experts. We are very efficient and not funny.click to expand

Posted by ScheherazadePosted by Lostthoughts
Man or Woman. Girl or Boy. Male or female. Doesn't matter.
If I see things I know will not work for them or more then a couple things that are bad news in general. I'll give them a heads. A real friend speaks up and asks WTH is up with that? I usually ask them to talk to them about it and try to hash it out.![]()
At the end of the day it's there choice. No point in being aggressive about it. In fact it can be used against you. Some of the most messed up people will isolate their targets. They will flip that on you.
If you are calling men men and women female itās a problem.click to expand


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Huhš I don't get it. Why would people wanna use your sex against you? Like that shit's crazy. I don't think I ever call a woman female, at least not to my knowledge. When I speak to women in real life I almost always use my only famous catch phrase with a smile and a little twinkle and say "hi, how you lovely ladies doing today". And even if I was to use the word "female" at any women you can be sure that it won't be used against them on a daily basis. Or no basis.