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I wouldn't be bothered by being referred to as a male. So I don't get why some of you female users are so hot and bothered by it.

because your sex is not used against you on a daily basis.
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HuhšŸ˜• I don't get it. Why would people wanna use your sex against you? Like that shit's crazy. I don't think I ever call a woman female, at least not to my knowledge. When I speak to women in real life I almost always use my only famous catch phrase with a smile and a little twinkle and say "hi, how you lovely ladies doing today". And even if I was to use the word "female" at any women you can be sure that it won't be used against them on a daily basis. Or no basis.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🄱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in šŸ¤” he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said ā€œthose femalesā€ then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".

I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question

Why so offended by your words.

When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.

Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.

Lmao

*grin*

I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.

It’s so self pitying tho
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Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.
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It's kinda like saying we shouldn't be referring to a woman as a human because a human can be a man too. Or to say that a car isn't a vehicle because a vehicle can be a truck.

you can be both human and female.

you can be a human and male.

you can be a vehicle and a truck

you can be a canine and a wolf.

you can't however be female (or male) and only human.
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Why the argument between the term "women" and "females" lol? Does it really matter that much? šŸ˜•

they mean different things.

it's not an argument (certainly not on my part) just a discussion.

Per my understanding, one encompasses the other. The term female is the broader term. Why the need for differentiation?

because women is specifically referring to humans.

female could be any animal. you can't call a female dog a woman. you can't call a female ape, a woman.

woman is not the same as female.

So in your mind, if someone calls you a female, you think they are calling you an animal?

it's reductive isn't it? to my genitalia. what's wrong with just saying woman? it's more accurate. it's the same number of syllables and you don't even have to buy a vowel.

Well, nothing is wrong to use the term "woman". Just, by definition, "woman" is a specific category of "female". So it's technically not wrong to refer to "woman" as "female".

right. the definition of woman is an adult human female.

but saying female alone, removes the human part. so referring to a woman as female ignores her particular humanity.

No it doesn't. It refers to any organism that can produce egg, to which it includes human being.

exactly, any organism. not only humans.

Yes, so by definition, it doesn't remove the human part.

it does because it doesn't acknowledge it when talking about women.

I disagree, but I am not trying to dismiss your POV or Fanta's. I just want to add to please consider though that when someone else is using the term "female" to a woman, there is probably a high probability that they aren't using it in a degrading sort of way to the woman in question.

i absolutely agree with you. they probably aren't. it really is a symptom of the general devaluing we have of women and women's contribution throughout our societies.
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Or a shitty education system.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🄱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in šŸ¤” he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said ā€œthose femalesā€ then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".

I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question

Why so offended by your words.

When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.

Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.

Lmao

*grin*

I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.

It’s so self pitying tho

Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.

I was definitely not trying to be part of slapping you, no disrespect meant to LS, because I get where she's coming from, but I want to understand and I don't like when I get too into the argument to listen. I meant it when I said I appreciated hearing about how it made you feel because that's instructive to me. I use this place as a verbal dumping ground...a lot. I should be more careful about leaving the sort of impact behind that I want to leave...
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That’s a really nice message ā˜ŗļø



The irony of this thread.... was that no one paid attention to the cultural sensitivity that he’s not a native English speaker. But loudly going on about their subjective opinions on how it makes them feel.
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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🄱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in šŸ¤” he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said ā€œthose femalesā€ then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".

I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question

Why so offended by your words.

When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.

Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.

Lmao

*grin*

I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.

It’s so self pitying tho

Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.

I was definitely not trying to be part of slapping you, no disrespect meant to LS, because I get where she's coming from, but I want to understand and I don't like when I get too into the argument to listen. I meant it when I said I appreciated hearing about how it made you feel because that's instructive to me. I use this place as a verbal dumping ground...a lot. I should be more careful about leaving the sort of impact behind that I want to leave...

That’s a really nice message ā˜ŗļø



The irony of this thread.... was that no one paid attention to the cultural sensitivity that he’s not a native English speaker. But loudly going on about their subjective opinions on how it makes them feel.
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Maybe its better that way, that spirited back and forth is addicting. I thought we germans are rigid.

I thought having very specific and narrow thoughts how about we should conduct ourselfs is exclusively our turf.

So everybody back off and make way for the Experts. We are very efficient and not funny.

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Womenfolk on here say shit like "male friends, male coworker" all the time.

Y'alls like "we don't need your protection" then straight up posts a video of a dude tryna protect you from mean hurtful words.

I use the term male friends or female friends all the time, the pc brigade is exhausting 🄱

female friends, male friends is a descriptor of the word "friends". perfectly legitimate.

But that is the context the poster used it in šŸ¤” he referred to his female friends. He clearly doesn’t have paternal instincts toward male friends.

However if he pointed in the street to a group of women and said ā€œthose femalesā€ then I can understand why it’s sounds derogatory.

He used it incorrectly in the title, which I'm sure @jeane saw and had a mild cringe to, just as I did. I chose not to mention it and answered his question. She chose to joke about it with a gif of Sarah Silverman. He took offense. Little Star and I backed her up. Others took offense. Yet others showed up to tell those who took offense not to listen to us, to ignore and dismiss our stupid petty PC bullshit. Why so offended by our words? It could have been an instructive joke to the OP. We could have moved right past it and then we might be discussing his question instead of the usage of "female".

I learned something new today, I dont have an informed opinion on gender influenced language and its implications so I will not even try to be right and win the discussion. Here are my feels not my reasoning. I dont like it, that you used the word incorrectly. So there are some rules, expectations etc. I should conform to. Makes me think of 1984. I feel resistance to that notion. I want to talk like I want to. Apparently I should also avoid offending people. I feel pressured and emotionally blackmailed. Something is off, curse words and rough language is part of day to day life, I associate a stern disapproving teacher with thick glasses from the 50s shaking their index finger back and forth. Thats would be my answer to your question

Why so offended by your words.

When I follow mainstream media, then apparently we (the males) are horrible everything about our identity our core beliefs, rituals, mannerism is fundamentally wrong, oppressive,imposing, damaging. My brain says, present your facts, my gut says fuck you.

Thanks for sharing your feelings. No jokes.

Lmao

*grin*

I'm actually totally serious, though. I started the day with Mr. Rogers.

It’s so self pitying tho

Thx, fuck you very much, I dont feel sorry like an offended puppy just scolded and lectured down upon by rigid people. I just conformed,overcame my toxix masculinity and shared and I get slapped. That was the Confirmation I needed to not take any of that Gender/Metoo/Feminist/SJW stuff serious. NOW THAT IS SELF PITY. With a very small pinch of mansplaining.

I was definitely not trying to be part of slapping you, no disrespect meant to LS, because I get where she's coming from, but I want to understand and I don't like when I get too into the argument to listen. I meant it when I said I appreciated hearing about how it made you feel because that's instructive to me. I use this place as a verbal dumping ground...a lot. I should be more careful about leaving the sort of impact behind that I want to leave...

That’s a really nice message ā˜ŗļø



The irony of this thread.... was that no one paid attention to the cultural sensitivity that he’s not a native English speaker. But loudly going on about their subjective opinions on how it makes them feel.

Maybe its better that way, that spirited back and forth is addicting. I thought we germans are rigid.

I thought having very specific and narrow thoughts how about we should conduct ourselfs is exclusively our turf.

So everybody back off and make way for the Experts. We are very efficient and not funny.
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It’s okay if people are joking around and it’s banter. At the end of the day anyone should feel like expressing themselves however they choose. It’s not like your thread was hateful, intimidating or rude.

People don’t like the message they can express their opinions, but having 20 Women with the red marker eager to correct 😠 not like DXP is a formal document that needs proof reading.

I’m a big believer in freedom of speech! So they are also entitled to say what they want, And you shouldn’t take it personally. The more you communicate in English the more confident you’ll feel.
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Man or Woman. Girl or Boy. Male or female. Doesn't matter.

If I see things I know will not work for them or more then a couple things that are bad news in general. I'll give them a heads. A real friend speaks up and asks WTH is up with that? I usually ask them to talk to them about it and try to hash it out.

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At the end of the day it's there choice. No point in being aggressive about it. In fact it can be used against you. Some of the most messed up people will isolate their targets. They will flip that on you.

If you are calling men men and women female it’s a problem.
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meh. That is why I said "doesn't matter". I call people what they want to be called or by their vibe.

I understand people feel restricted or offended by the labels slapped on their forehead by other people. I also think it's sad that people believe you are defined by that and find it threatening.

I Also think it's funny how those same people are doing it to themselves as a form of self-empowerment. it's all bullshit, you are you.

By consciously defining yourself, your put yourself in a box. Limiting self expression and most importantly growth.

I'm unsure of your objective by calling these descriptions out like you are to this extent. That is all they are descriptions..These are generalized terms used as a point of reference in language to communicate faster and as precise as possible. Everyone is taking this all way to seriously and going to far with it.

I will be the first to step up and speak up when it's used to judge and profile not its intended purpose, which is a description.





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I’m a Taurus woman but I can be very protective over my loved ones. I don’t mean to, it comes naturally. Not that I think they can’t protect themselves, I just have a protective nature. I can turn into a junk yard dog when I feel my loved one is in danger. I’m more calm even when it’s myself in danger lol. It’s very weird and I’ve tried to reel it in a bit with age. But yeah, protective nature for sure.