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Posted by Libra4rmTX
butter I give up. If the butter aint mutual I keep it moving

I am terrible at giving up

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Posted by Sagoxa
I'm a bit different approaching NN. I'm more into vedic when it comes to this one.

The thing about NN or in vedic they call it rahu, it's a dragon's head without its body. So you will greedily try to consume hoping it'll bring you fullfilment but you will never feel full.. rahu is obsession and indulgence while ketu is satisfaction (full stomach, lazy to do anything more).

With rahu in ur 12th and ketu in ur 6th, means that spirituality, isolation and living inside your head is what you're obsessed about and craving for and yet practicality is something that you're detached from.

You need to balance these 2 out.. balancing spirituality with practicality. Seeing that 12th house is something that you're already familiar with, you just need to add more of 6th house elements to be balanced. Like, working on routines, exercising/working out, farming, act of service etc.. since your ketu is aries i suggest more of a mars energy..

Btw, are you a libra rising or scorpio?

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Thing is I told her what has made me feel insecure and its the fact that at Christmas time she said she wants out of the relationship because she doesn't want my ex to see my family even tho we have children together anyway.
She wanted out of the relationship and said to me that we are going to go our separate ways in the new years.
I mean I didn't know if she was coming or going because after telling me thay what the treetrunk do I feel like cab you understand how I have been feeling it has driven me to act this way is it the right way no it isn't but what am I supposed to do and feel .

You two both have some control issues. She doesn’t want your kids seeing their own parent 😳
You can’t tell when she’s pushing your buttons for her own amusement?
If you want to take a break then do it. You will see how she acts. Then you will know she’s not going anywhere.
Maybe this will turn things around for you.
You need to see this side of her anyways.
It will probably surprise and relieve you. Geminis don’t give up easily.

That last part was very interesting. "Geminis dont give up easily". butter struck a chord with me

They don’t give up easily when they love you.
When they’re bored or uninterested, that’s a different story.

Oh Im sure lol I just never really met one that I clicked with on that level. There was one that I had a real big work crush on but she doesnt work here anymore. Thats about as close as Ive ever got

I like this about them. But you have to know when to call their bluffs. Otherwise they will run over you lol.
They are the one sign where I can clearly see their actions mean way more than their words. So I barely listen to their words unless they are complaining or nagging me.
It works well when you treat them how they treat you.

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Posted by Centaur12
Thing is I told her what has made me feel insecure and its the fact that at Christmas time she said she wants out of the relationship because she doesn't want my ex to see my family even tho we have children together anyway.
She wanted out of the relationship and said to me that we are going to go our separate ways in the new years.
I mean I didn't know if she was coming or going because after telling me thay what the treetrunk do I feel like cab you understand how I have been feeling it has driven me to act this way is it the right way no it isn't but what am I supposed to do and feel .

You two both have some control issues. She doesn’t want your kids seeing their own parent 😳
You can’t tell when she’s pushing your buttons for her own amusement?
If you want to take a break then do it. You will see how she acts. Then you will know she’s not going anywhere.
Maybe this will turn things around for you.
You need to see this side of her anyways.
It will probably surprise and relieve you. Geminis don’t give up easily.

That last part was very interesting. "Geminis dont give up easily". butter struck a chord with me

They don’t give up easily when they love you.
When they’re bored or uninterested, that’s a different story.

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Posted by Aquamarine_
Are Plutonian relationships really that bad?

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Posted by Libra4rmTX

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12
Thing is I told her what has made me feel insecure and its the fact that at Christmas time she said she wants out of the relationship because she doesn't want my ex to see my family even tho we have children together anyway.
She wanted out of the relationship and said to me that we are going to go our separate ways in the new years.
I mean I didn't know if she was coming or going because after telling me thay what the treetrunk do I feel like cab you understand how I have been feeling it has driven me to act this way is it the right way no it isn't but what am I supposed to do and feel .

You two both have some control issues. She doesn’t want your kids seeing their own parent 😳
You can’t tell when she’s pushing your buttons for her own amusement?
If you want to take a break then do it. You will see how she acts. Then you will know she’s not going anywhere.
Maybe this will turn things around for you.
You need to see this side of her anyways.
It will probably surprise and relieve you. Geminis don’t give up easily.

That last part was very interesting. "Geminis dont give up easily". butter struck a chord with me

Take it you had a different experience

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Posted by Centaur12
Thing is I told her what has made me feel insecure and its the fact that at Christmas time she said she wants out of the relationship because she doesn't want my ex to see my family even tho we have children together anyway.
She wanted out of the relationship and said to me that we are going to go our separate ways in the new years.
I mean I didn't know if she was coming or going because after telling me thay what the treetrunk do I feel like cab you understand how I have been feeling it has driven me to act this way is it the right way no it isn't but what am I supposed to do and feel .

You two both have some control issues. She doesn’t want your kids seeing their own parent 😳
You can’t tell when she’s pushing your buttons for her own amusement?
If you want to take a break then do it. You will see how she acts. Then you will know she’s not going anywhere.
Maybe this will turn things around for you.
You need to see this side of her anyways.
It will probably surprise and relieve you. Geminis don’t give up easily.

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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That butter was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that butter was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.


When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

what if double whammy?

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...I dont believe in heaven or hell. I believe its there for those who believe in it tho.

Hmph. *like*

Lol is that a bad or good thing lol

Haha, yeah my "hmphs" can mean very different things. Sometimes I am not in the mood to write/say much more. In this case it was positive. I found your statement curious and also pleasant because it demonstrates an acceptance for other people's beliefs even if you don't believe in it yourself.

Not sure how other people may have read that statement, but that was how I read it.

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...I dont believe in heaven or hell. I believe its there for those who believe in it tho.

Hmph. *like*

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Just depends. Im always pluto in thid and have been mars a few times. It just depends. To me, being pluto, you have to be the one to decide if you'll stay or move around. It wasnt always intense. Sometimes it was just a "what are you gonna do" type thing. Never real extreme.

More than anyrhing it was highly sexual. Never felt feverish or primal like the descriptions say. But it was very sexual. The only time this was intense for me was a square to her mars. She was my first lil love and I was 16. But it was the most passionate mars pluto contact ive ever had. And I felt every emotion from it.



All other times I just had to decide if I'd stick around or not. The last one was a few months ago. That butter was turning fatal on every level fr. My mars sextile her sagg pluto and her mars conj. My scorpio pluto. Now that butter was getting dark. Had elements of destruction, strong attraction and other things Ion wanna discuss. In the end I had to just block her number and move on. Pluto always makes an extreme move to rid themselves of a person. Thats been me also. Ive left the few relationships with no word. Once we agreed to part ways they woke up or came home and all my ish was gone. I think Thats also how pluto works.


When I was mars, I kept going down a path with this woman. Tbh the sex was good and the attraction was extremely strong but like I said, it was way too risky to continue doing. So I decided to leave her alone for good.

This can be extreme but it wasnt always the case for me. House placements and other aspects mean alot too.

I see what you mean about the “should I stay or should I go”. There is distance between the guy and I and I typically don’t do LDR, I think we both are hesitant to do LDR. But also still drawn to each other. I sense some hot/cold behavior on his end, so then I fall back and give him space. But then when I fall back he comes back in heavy pursuit. So it’s confusing and has a push/pull effect.

Most definitely!! In so many ways. And it can be hot on minute and then real cold. And thats what kinda makes it difficult to move on. When youre rewdy to give up the heat turns on. But mine were just too destructive

Thankfully I have not noticed any toxic behavior in our situation. We are both older (40 and 44) and self aware so I think we will be able to maintain a friendship even if it doesn’t work out. We have a lot of other warm and fuzzy aspects, so I’m hoping it balances out. So far I’m grateful to have met him. His Neptune is trine my north node, we have only been talking for a few months and I already feel that he has aided in my growth. I had a lot of resentment and pain from a past relationship that I’ve held onto for the past 3 years (cancer moon) and he is the first to give me that sense of a “breath of fresh air” and give me hope that there is still a chance for love. I have recently gone through a stage where I was feeling hopeless and wasn’t willing to move backward, but wasn’t moving forward either. I’ve been stuck in emotional limbo for 3 years and he is gently helping push me over that threshold. 😍😍😍❤️

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