SassyKiwi

Posted by TrueFantasy
What are hard moon/Pluto aspects?

Any examples so I can find out if I have this lol very unlikely though

Moon square Pluto
Moon conjunct Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto

Trines *may* count, but it's not as intense or difficult I believe.

I think the orbs have to be within 5 degrees? Some sites are different, this was the easiest for me:

http://www.alwaysastrology.com/birth-chart-calculator.html

Check mark "Display List of Aspects and Positions of Planets" and click "Redraw"

I just figured out I do. I swear it's so dramatized lol. If you have any hard Moon/Pluto aspects (squares, oppositions, conjunctions) you have it too. It's said a Scorpio moon is automatically a Hades moon?

Those with this aspect have intense emotions. These emotions can be buried, be a struggle to process. They live life intensely. They prefer to be a loner. "Intimate relationships may be difficult, with emotions intense and extreme. An atmosphere of emotional brooding may surround you; and others may prefer to withdraw as they sense elemental danger." You've probably had an overpowering/dominant mother figure. You might've been your mother's toughest birth. You're able to sense energies more keenly. Eh of course there's the possible dark stuff like manipulation, self-destruction along with rebirth. "No other planetary contact has such depth of trauma, compulsion, and alienation. No other aspect has quite the same metamorphic and healing potential. Moon-Pluto contacts means opening to the possibility of renewal and regeneration, not just on a personal level - but for the planet and humankind as a whole."

"It is a curse. If you can, do some reading online about it. There's a book by Judy Hall (who coined 'Hades Moon'). Apparently it's dark, plutonian, and really insightful. On a Jungian level. It talks about how many people with Hades moons experienced difficult births or near-death experiences in the womb (two examples I found online were a man whose mother almost aborted him, and the other whose mother ignored her water breaking and went back to bed and he almost died from that). Oftentimes the relationship with the mother is smothering and unhealthy and that is foretold by the umbilical cord wrapped around the neck during childbirth. If they do not have a near-death experience at birth there is a possibility of early death. It tends to run in families and Hades moon people have a karmic connection to other Hades moons. The Kennedy family had Hades moon prevalent and there was a history of difficult births and as we know, tragic and early deaths. Near-death experience is denoted. That's to be embraced as it can ward off the early death karma."

"Hades moon people have a karmic connection to other Hades moons." Personally, that couldn't be much truer for me. Nearly every close person throughout my life also has a hard Moon/Pluto aspect... lol. The the moon changes signs frequently so it can't be random coincidences..? It'd make sense how we're drawn to each others' similar energies I guess. Do mention if you guys have seen any patterns among your close friends' or family's charts.

Crazy, deep stuff.

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I have it too. And I don't felt that it has anything to do with sexual.. perhaps vulgary in indecent way.. You know jacking off and eat those sperms..

I have read from other threat about this aspect that are pretty much hit the spot. With all those rich words like: Disputations, accentuate, belligerent. etc. If you know those words, then you realized that it's quite suitable for Mercury square Mars. But it's also in the worst sign position too.

Mercury in Aries on 7th house square Mars in Cancer on 10th house.

Lol me either, i skipped that part *rolls eyes*
holy butter! mercury in aries? i wouldve never guessed
its the mars in cancer im telling you -__-

In what way btw? I'm curious~

i dont think i get your question

About my mars in Cancer.

we're basically The Hulk

ive always read that its the worst placement for Mars (I have it too mine in the 5th) also i think it effect the overall chart in a weird way since we're earthy.

They called it "Murder mars" or "The werewolf" one too.

I forgot to mentions towards @Sassykiwi that My mars trine Pluto too.

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I have a Murder Mars in my Vedic chart

I also have Jupiter opposite Saturn. Let's share our self-worth issues while we get mani and pedis.

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Posted by EnochtheWise
Oh and I appreciate Libras. The women are gorgeous. Here's what I mean by fake...

You'll be hanging out with your Libra friend, out at a club, having a deep conversation about something. And if someone rolls up that they are attracted to, they turn on their Libra charm and they are a completely different person. Now its like they are wearing a mask. Its jarring.

But yeah - it is the desire to be liked and admired I guess. This is similar to how Sagittarians are fake, but I think a Libran has a much stronger core identity than a Sag any day.

Hmm I agree with this.

The Libras I know are like chameleons, they seem to mold and change according to who they're around. I don't think it's malicious or even on purpose all of the time though I can understand how it can be irritating to most people. I can definitely see how they can give people the sense that they aren't revealing their true selves. In my opinion, it's more of a way for them to be as diplomatic, neutral, well liked, graceful and as charming as possible. I've observed this with all Libra placements specifically Libra stelliums as well.

Here's the thing about Libra diplomacy... they're only diplomatic and fair if it benefits them, if it makes them well liked. They're diplomatic in a subjective way, not objective. Aquarians are those who I would consider the real diplomats in the objective sense, striving to seek welfare of the general. Unlike Libras, Aquarians really don't care to please others since they will be very direct if needed. They can also be so detached because they don't care to give into pleasing the other person like a Libra would with their charm. You can heavily note this in those with Aquarius moons. Libra moons are huge people pleasers, much more than Libra suns imo.

Libras with aqua moons. Slim to 0 treetrunks given about people pleasing.

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Aqua mooners are a wonderful breed :p

Posted by tiziani
who taught you these things???

Senpai

Posted by WarAngel1
They can't save their soul so now they're trying to save their bodies.

Shed away the sins

Posted by littlemegabytes
Things that treetrunk with my mind:

1. Calculus, taking a treetrunking derivative and then right next to it, having to take an integral. Yea, I am dying over here over this!
2. How some of those wive's tales remedies actually work (haven't bothered to research, don't care. But really, like an onion in your sock??)
3. Optical illusions
4. Lengthy word problems where more than necessary amounts of variables are given
5. Detecting sarcasm via the internet, sometimes
6. Why women still wear UGG boots


Sorry brah, sporks and balloons aren't on the list.

Million dollar question tbh

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@jane84 Lol! Whoa, a triple Leeb. Awwh. The purest Libra I know is a Libra sun with a Libra rising and she's beautiful and everything a Libra rising portrays. Have yet to see the Libra rising description debunked hahah. And yeah, stick to making Aquas your friends lol, but the compatibility isn't that bad. Both are air signs, on the same wavelength, communication could help open up those stubborn Aquas' soft spots.

Well I don't know about beautiful. But it's nice to hear when I'm told that. Lol I just say, "Thank you." (Then face turns red.) 😊 I actually think my Aqua sister is beautiful.
I love Aquas! My sister and I are best friends. (She tells me this when she's drinking and we are having our long talks. Haha It's the only time she opens up emotionally, but I'll take it.) My Grandmother was one too. LOVED that woman. I know all about the "Aqua soft spot." I tell people my sister is a softie inside.. They just look at me puzzled. Lol Anytime there is an Aqua on my team, we click right away. My best friend is one too. She moved away and it made me sad because she is an awesome person to have around.

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What moons do your sister and best friend have?

Then it's good news you live in Asia?

@jane84 Lol! Whoa, a triple Leeb. Awwh. The purest Libra I know is a Libra sun with a Libra rising and she's beautiful and everything a Libra rising portrays. Have yet to see the Libra rising description debunked hahah. And yeah, stick to making Aquas your friends lol, but the compatibility isn't that bad. Both are air signs, on the same wavelength, communication could help open up those stubborn Aquas' soft spots.

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Posted by EnochtheWise
Oh and I appreciate Libras. The women are gorgeous. Here's what I mean by fake...

You'll be hanging out with your Libra friend, out at a club, having a deep conversation about something. And if someone rolls up that they are attracted to, they turn on their Libra charm and they are a completely different person. Now its like they are wearing a mask. Its jarring.

But yeah - it is the desire to be liked and admired I guess. This is similar to how Sagittarians are fake, but I think a Libran has a much stronger core identity than a Sag any day.

Hmm I agree with this.

The Libras I know are like chameleons, they seem to mold and change according to who they're around. I don't think it's malicious or even on purpose all of the time though I can understand how it can be irritating to most people. I can definitely see how they can give people the sense that they aren't revealing their true selves. In my opinion, it's more of a way for them to be as diplomatic, neutral, well liked, graceful and as charming as possible. I've observed this with all Libra placements specifically Libra stelliums as well.

Here's the thing about Libra diplomacy... they're only diplomatic and fair if it benefits them, if it makes them well liked. They're diplomatic in a subjective way, not objective. Aquarians are those who I would consider the real diplomats in the objective sense, striving to seek welfare of the general. Unlike Libras, Aquarians really don't care to please others since they will be very direct if needed. They can also be so detached because they don't care to give into pleasing the other person like a Libra would with their charm. You can heavily note this in those with Aquarius moons. Libra moons are huge people pleasers, much more than Libra suns imo.

Oh I definitely agree.

In my opinion Cardinals are like that in general, they do and care about what benefits them. Cancers might be the only ones who deviate from that a bit, at least when it comes to family and those closest to them.

I agree with the Aquarius part as well.

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I agree. I've personally seen Cancer moons deviate more from it than Cancer suns. It's just always so amusing to note how characteristics are practically always much stronger through the moons (especially since the moon rules Cancer). Dem emotions.

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Posted by EnochtheWise
Oh and I appreciate Libras. The women are gorgeous. Here's what I mean by fake...

You'll be hanging out with your Libra friend, out at a club, having a deep conversation about something. And if someone rolls up that they are attracted to, they turn on their Libra charm and they are a completely different person. Now its like they are wearing a mask. Its jarring.

But yeah - it is the desire to be liked and admired I guess. This is similar to how Sagittarians are fake, but I think a Libran has a much stronger core identity than a Sag any day.

Hmm I agree with this.

The Libras I know are like chameleons, they seem to mold and change according to who they're around. I don't think it's malicious or even on purpose all of the time though I can understand how it can be irritating to most people. I can definitely see how they can give people the sense that they aren't revealing their true selves. In my opinion, it's more of a way for them to be as diplomatic, neutral, well liked, graceful and as charming as possible. I've observed this with all Libra placements specifically Libra stelliums as well.

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Here's the thing about Libra diplomacy... they're only diplomatic and fair if it benefits them, if it makes them well liked. They're diplomatic in a subjective way, not objective. Aquarians are those who I would consider the real diplomats in the objective sense, striving to seek welfare of the general. Unlike Libras, Aquarians really don't care to please others since they will be very direct if needed. They can also be so detached because they don't care to give into pleasing the other person like a Libra would with their charm. You can heavily note this in those with Aquarius moons. Libra moons are huge people pleasers, much more than Libra suns imo.

Posted by SensitiveBlues
FAKE PEOPLE MAKE MONEY

REAL People DIE BROKE

i rather be FAKE

This is true :/

Honest people only make it so far before they're taken advantage of.

Posted by exxtasyx
The least fake person is a Gemini.

Loud, opinionated and don't care about being politically correct.

Think Donald Trump, Kanye West, Azaelia Banks or John F. Kennedy.

You're joking right? Just because one speaks their mind over controversial matters does not mean they're not being fake. Then again judging whether someone's fake or not is highly subjective. Personally I factor in manipulation to determine if someone's fake.

@starwars LOL you make me cry, I'm NOT a funny looking Gemini ):

Why do you keep making posts about x sign being fake and then this y sign next?

I believe we attract those who resemble us.

Frankly given the number of fake Libras and fake Sags you've supposedly encountered, I think it's safe to assume the problem is YOU. It's your projection that's causing others to not be themselves around you.

Posted by starwars
LOL! hi mafia buds - buds my ass you murders -

@sassykiwi

ill ignore the mafia joke..........

i do think before i speak which lead to the furstration. "ive been thinking about this over and over how dare you not get my point?"

you see, the major problem is i get too furstrated when someone cant see where im coming from, like just focus on the point. i got into lots of troubles professionally for coming across as too casual or too opinionated. and my furstration take two ways;

1- in my head im like "they are too dumb, cant even see my point. imma shut up" and theyd get a roll in eyes or ignored. thats the case most times

2- in my head im like "they are too dumb, cant even see my point. im cuttin them cookiemonsteres" and start arguing.

i know it probably have to do with the way i say it but i cant control it. it makes me think that the other person is being narrow minded bc they cant see past my attitude regardless the fact that its me whos coming across like that lol.

I luv you.

And yes, delivery is so important! Also try to manage your physical expression and body language. You're allowed to think they're dumb, but don't let them be able to read that from you. Think Scorpio! Become unreadable. It'll get you far.

Unfortunately this world IS full of dumb, narrow-minded people, the only people who succeed are those who can tactfully navigate around them and somehow manage to gain an upper hand on them.

There's a balance on how much you should really be yourself of in a professional environment. Mimic the actions of those who appear to do well to get an idea?

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May he have all the money and bad cookiemonsteres he so desired.

I bid him adieu.

How can I achieve all this for myself so I can delete in peace as well?

You're not going anywhere sassy poof poof.

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Of course not! At least not until I achieve some $ $ $ and bad cookiemonsteres

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May he have all the money and bad cookiemonsteres he so desired.

I bid him adieu.

How can I achieve all this for myself so I can delete in peace as well?

I think for some people, it's about the closure. That was the case for him. He's at peace with things now.

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I think he left on a very spiteful note... You can see a response from me to one of his crazy posts from yesterday. Otherwise, I did find entertainment in his usual posts.