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astrologers like to say that there are several types of aquarians out there.
1 - the saturn aquarius
2 - the uranian aquarius (the most electrifying)
3- the saturn and uranian aquarius (mixed)

but I think they've only touched the surface. There are decans I, II, III.

there are only a couple other signs that have two rulers /coruler.

one is aquarius, the other is pisces (jupiter and neptune) and scorpio (mars and pluto)

so how come astrologers haven't delved into the jupiterian type of pisceans and the more neptunian piscean
or the ones that have mix?
same with scorpio: would one scorpio have more characteristics of mars/fighter/warrior than one who is more plutonian?
or vice versa?

then, astrologers like to throw in falls, detriments, exaltations and dignified.

thoughts? feelings? 🙂
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Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
I'm a second decan aquarian.......I'm different...thats my keyword that i use now because I used to go through life wondering why ppl dont like me or put me down or think im difficult, aloof ,stubborn, provocative....I'm none of those things I'm just different and tells it how it is



do you happen to have a fixed moon & rising too? Sometimes, that could give the impression from outsiders that you're just way too difficult for them to handle. But at the same time, very interesting. that extra fixedity (both sun and moon/and even rising) can be challenging. I can imagine if it's all cardinal (i wonder how that goes for them) and if it's all mutable (hooo boy) 😛

second decan aqua: there's really nice things about this decan. (met a couple of them at school and work - very smart and dedicated people) oh, and they're very quick-witted too.

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Posted by WheresWally
Because we're special.
Maybe because the split influences are stronger in us and very noticeable.
modern astrologers..leaving out info..
My sun is in the 3rd decan and it does NOT resonate with me. I have to go flip through my Birthday book about the 3rd decan Aquarius but from what I can remember it's social but a crybaby. 😢


Everyone's special though. But you're right about that the "influences" make more of a notice. I dont like it to be honest. No wonder the sign aqua is in the "air" category. It's too EXPOSED and for a strong saturn influence who has alot of shyness and needs to be protected against the world, it is terrible to have it all out there. It's like the sky - too open and vast - too expansive. Which is why I believe Uranian Aquas can withstand it stronger than the rest of us. But i also read that they are also more exposed to "psychic attacks". I know, weird. But that's what some astrologers say: they feel that because we have the greatest intuition, we are more prone to darker energies and nothing to war ourselves against it. (unless we have strong mars in our chart)

i've never really gotten to know any 3rd decan aquas. You guys are probably the sweetest (venus decan) 🙂

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I'm a third decan aqua and I get bired extremely and yes I do love being in love and until I read up on the decans I always wondered why I felt more like a piscesbecause of my sensitive ways but from my understanding 3rd's are the most senstive.
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aww. if you're close to the 1st pisces decan you may feel that way. I have a close family member who is one day before the aries decan and she's extremely brave/courageous/ war-like, but she still has the qualities of a pisces.
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Oh jeez I'm third decan aquarius too and love too be in love, but I'm also born on the day of love so I always used to blame it on that.



aw, feb 14? That's cool. You'll probably make some lucky lady very happy one day 🙂
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I hope so I've finally learned to accept the positives of it instead of only the negatives *sigh*. I hope that lucky lady is out there.
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Traditional astrologers tend not to believe in using the outer planets at all. At least, none of them will use them in a natal delineation. Most of modern astrologers use both rulerships. What doesn't click with me is that they tend to use outer planets a lot. I mean they are far, far away. Personally, i only use Neptune and Pluto when they are in a stressful aspect or are conjunct an angle. I don't consider them to rule any sign. I'm still doubtful about what to do with Uranus though. :/

I wish i could find some trad astrology sites. I don't really see the connection between Jupiter and Pisces. I read somewhere that "...you shouldn't do any harm to a Pisces because they are ruled by Jupiter, the planet of luck. If you wrong them in any way, then Karma will surely bite you in the ass...". Or i think it was something like that.
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Traditional astrologers tend not to believe in using the outer planets at all. At least, none of them will use them in a natal delineation. Most of modern astrologers use both rulerships. What doesn't click with me is that they tend to use outer planets a lot. I mean they are far, far away. Personally, i only use Neptune and Pluto when they are in a stressful aspect or are conjunct an angle. I don't consider them to rule any sign. I'm still doubtful about what to do with Uranus though. :/

I wish i could find some trad astrology sites. I don't really see the connection between Jupiter and Pisces. I read somewhere that "...you shouldn't do any harm to a Pisces because they are ruled by Jupiter, the planet of luck. If you wrong them in any way, then Karma will surely bite you in the ass...". Or i think it was something like that.



Uranus, in my short experience and readings of it, are pretty damn scary. Whooosh....when I read about it, and correlate it with experiences. Wow. Tyranny rings a bell. (If) darkness consumes. Read up on mythology, look up Uranus. It's fascinating.

then there's the other reading of Uranus, who was whisked away by some eagle. Many myths of this, that would fill your mind.

As for karma and Jupiter and Pisces. Saturn is usually the Lord of Karma....HOWEVER: pisces jupiter has a lot to do with this too. Why? Mysterious.
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I dont know anything about decans but this post intrigued me so i looked it up. The website i went to says 1st decans are ruled by uranus 2nd are ruled by mercury and 3rd,by venus is this correct? Im a 1st deacon..if by psychic attacks u mean spiritual warfare or some kind of otherworldy experience...i can say ive had an interesting life lol. but it also keeps me open minded.
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I know damn well how dangerous and frightening Uranus can be (conjunct Mars, ugh...). Some time ago i read about Saturn ruling Karma, it was no surprise. I mean, Saturn is real "STRONG" in my chart and i'm prone to get overwhelmed with guilt :S. I would love to know how to balance Saturnian and Uranian energies. I would help me a lot 😢


It's not so bad. When people have a lack of awareness of themselves, it is not so good, but others can see it, (however, how others perceive you are different impressions as well - different perspectives)Alot of aquas are unaware of themselves, how they are, but so are other people in different birthdays. It's very complicated, just how people are anyway. Gosh, sometimes i feel like I'm writing a self help to be aware article sometimes. Lol.
Saturn energies mean you like conventionality. Many conventional aquarians mark our history too. Ronald Reagan was considered a very conventional man, a political animal (his aqua characteristic there), but still very conventional, very CONSERVATIVE. He married a Cancer sun woman, and they had a very good marriage. She took care of him till the end - he ended up having alzheimers.

Unconventionality marks a strong Uranian aquarian. Nothing traditional, nothing conservative, ideas are too out there that it's not grounded enough - yet remarkably way ahead of its time - or out of this world. They like things to be future focused - their tastes in furniture, home, and gadgets will be marked by their unconventionality. Among many things. this is also in many other signs too, if we take closer to their choices and style s/tastes/friends with people awareness.
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I dont know anything about decans but this post intrigued me so i looked it up. The website i went to says 1st decans are ruled by uranus 2nd are ruled by mercury and 3rd,by venus is this correct? Im a 1st deacon..if by psychic attacks u mean spiritual warfare or some kind of otherworldy experience...i can say ive had an interesting life lol. but it also keeps me open minded.
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Yep. Although if one had a stellium in aquarius in their chart, no matter the decan, it enhances the energies. But, i'm not even show how decans work on a deeper level yet. If it comes to me someday where I've witnessed it, then great. I rather prefer th
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hm got cut off.
what I wanted to say, was that, it's freer to learn these experiences on your own and not by rule books or anything.
it helps give you your own original ideas and way of living. Not by anyone's standards or rules. But by the same turn. Hmm so i realize maybe in the venus decan there's more of a need for rules? Not sure how that works. Rules are nice, but too inhuman at times. There's no room for expression.

To add on to the Saturn and Uranian balance. I'm not sure what to tell you on that. That's something you have to learn on your own. Astrologers will try and help you/aid you on how to recognize these things, but it's always up to the individual to figure out things on their own. That's the perfect subject: yourself. By doing so, it helps you perceive how others may see you, or how you can work on yourself. If you like yourself how you are, then, there's no reason to change those things.
Both energies are marked by stubbornness too. Even though aqua is 'fixed', saturn energy is all about restriction. Restrictions are there to help people not cross the boundaries. It's a saving grace. And strong Uranian energy is beyond those restrictions (imagine the planet Saturn - the rings around it) those are not going anywhere. Imagine too the planet Uranus. Study those things if you like. Saturn is also very shy, whilst uranus is not.
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hey lisa...since u seem so good at this stuff...can I ask u to do an astro interpretation...? You don't have to, only if you want to...

my friend is 3rd decan aqua...17 feb...aries venus, cap moon...got alotta cap and pisces in him...think his mercury is pisces,dont quite remember...his aqua/pisces sun in in the first house...

he's either really emotional...or weirdly cold...like he doesnt realize he's being cold
He's developed this hard outershell from his childhood days...and alotta people judge him on that...and tend to dislike him...for some reason
aqua/pisces with aries venus n cap moon...wana know what u think of the combo...

and...

pair it up with a cap/aqua sun, pisces moon and venus aqua... 🙂


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hey lisa...since u seem so good at this stuff...can I ask u to do an astro interpretation...? You don't have to, only if you want to...
my friend is 3rd decan aqua...17 feb...aries venus, cap moon...got alotta cap and pisces in him...think his mercury is pisces,dont quite remember...his aqua/pisces sun in in the first house...
he's either really emotional...or weirdly cold...like he doesnt realize he's being cold
He's developed this hard outershell from his childhood days...and alotta people judge him on that...and tend to dislike him...for some reason
aqua/pisces with aries venus n cap moon...wana know what u think of the combo...and...
pair it up with a cap/aqua sun, pisces moon and venus aqua... 🙂


Hi, leila, i'm really not good with this stuff. But i'm also learning like you, and i feel really good today, and have sunday time, i'll see what i can do:

Aquarius SUN: the FATHER, his childhood and his connection to his father will determine what kind of upbringing he has had in many cases. The distant father, cool, and sometimes sadness, misunderstandings, and he has a very practical, fundamentally no-nonsense,VERY CLASSY, highly moralistic mother- he learns the true connection of family: his capricorn moon. Also, his MARS: sometimes this correlates with his rising/Sun and actions. The actions are his Mars many times. And the Venus: Aries - fiery, easily falls in love with the concept of love but it is NOT roses and sunshines that define Arian energy. It is the Knight in Shining Armour for a man: nobility that defines Martian energy. To "save" the damsel. To PROTECT. If channelled in positive, it is very beautiful. He might appear like a walking contradiction and he probably is, but in the end, as long as you understand this about him - it is the very basis of strong foundation.
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also, forget to mention, anything in the arian/martian energy in the chart is very strong. Since he has a capricorn moon, it will help his detriment in saturn balance out his his detriment in the sun. Everything in the chart helps make a person more balanced, if not, they seek those who will balance them out in every way.
he sounds like a very strong individual, and you compliment him, with your sweetness, and lightness and sometimes goofy good ways.
Make no mistake, the universe usually knows what should compliment a couple. 🙂
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Thanks lotz lisa babes...the firt part about his father makes sense...and his mom is exactly like you described.
I don't know why...but we exchange characters alot...his moods are constant and im the very changeable one...but I see us switching roles a lot...one time I'll have crazy mood swings, next he will start behaving this way...not in that same minute or time, but I see this weird change...

hahaha...so I'm the goofy one? lolzzz...okay, I kind of am...

He is very protective...and is peaceful, but is prepared to get rough to protect those he loves.

Thanks lotz luv
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Thanks lotz lisa babes...the firt part about his father makes sense...and his mom is exactly like you described.
I don't know why...but we exchange characters alot...his moods are constant and im the very changeable one...but I see us switching roles a lot...one time I'll have crazy mood swings, next he will start behaving this way...not in that same minute or time, but I see this weird change...

hahaha...so I'm the goofy one? lolzzz...okay, I kind of am...

He is very protective...and is peaceful, but is prepared to get rough to protect those he loves.

Thanks lotz luv


you're welcome 🙂

yeah i get some goofy energy feelings from you. It could be your aquarius venus. That venus planet's pretty strong. Underestimated against Mars energy but equally strong.

here's this site to give you some insight on aquarius venus: (your flirting style )

http://www.astrologyzine.com/flirting-with-venus-in-aquarius.shtml<BR>
Original. You seem delightfully different, surprising, or inventive. Perhaps a little "quirky". If you find yourself acting a little odd, or saying things meant to shake up or shock someone a little, you may be in flirt mode.


there's more if you want to go to the link. Cafeastrology and other sites seem to have similar views, though vary by writing style and slight perception.

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I read on eleventh house sometimes since it has a stellium in my chart. Some sources I've read talk about a big difference in modern and traditional approaches to it. I don't know if that would translate over into the sign though even If the energy is shared.

I love aquas though. I read about them being robotic or cold and I honestly don't understand it. Every single aqua I know with the exception of one is bubbly and loving and warm and honest and brilliant in their own way. Cold or robotic is never how I would describe them. Ever lol.

The way I perceive their energy, they are very infectious and strong but not like a fire sign. It's subtle. Their influence is like a slow capture. They have surprising moments of complete and shinning love and loveliness though. Very still and quiet. I like it lol.


Hi Elly, 🙂 I was just about to post a `saturnian?? type of aquarian.
Thank you for posting your insight.— What I read somewhere, is that the differences with types of aquarians are actually in the form of communication, as well as way- style of living. For example, a saturnian aquarian has the ability to communicate in a pragmatic and less scattered manner / the strong influence of saturn. Whilst the uranian aquarian has the skill to be percieved as ??scatterbrained?? and looked by outsiders as dumb. Even if they have a high i.q. their faculties, in true uranian form, buzzes like electricity. Some astrologers believe Sarah Palin is Uranian, but there's some saturnian in her due to her conventional marriage and beliefs.

Ayn Rand: while extremely loved and extremely hated, was more influenced by saturn, as she was a bit more grounded in her approach. I haven't read her stuff in depth yet, only heard about her, and looked up some of her ideals and theories. But i can get the gist why people loved and hated her. No in between.

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you're right, there are many types of aquarians..there's the ditzy hippy chick aquarian..the computers science nerd aquarian..the aquarian that smokes so much pot that they affect global warming...the moral relativist aquarian that will sleep with anything..the pie in the sky aquarian that never actualizes any of their ideas..the aquarian who says wacky, eclectic things so that people will assume they're smart..and so on 🙂



haha good ones.

my fave is the bohemian nature lover.



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Posted by Chance11
yeah, that's a good one! i was just picking a singular character trait of the various aquas i know for funsake. having 5 aqua placements myself makes it all too real 🙂


wow that's a lot of aqua. It's good you have some earth/capricorn to ground that aqua-ness. (whew!)


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moons in scorpio - fixed
asc aquarius - fixed

ohhh noooooo ive got challenges!!
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that is a lot of challenges. It'll be allright, that scorpio moon of yours will (in astrology terms) want a strong-will power in a mate/partner. I'm just thinking of how the men in go by their Moon and Venus for their mate. And while the sun sign will actually be more open to everyone in a general sense as friends, but distant friends. And very few close ones.
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I know a 2nd decan Aquarian...according to website I found he's supposed to be ruled by Mercury, but he acts far from a Mercurian or even air sign. He has similar interests as other Aquariuses I know but he is like a pile of mud you can just slosh around and it doesn't matter. Maybe it's Aquarius mixed with Capricorn (well, Cap is an earth sign so maybe that's a "duh" on my part) but my dad has a Cappy moon and still a lot livelier than this dude. I also find he can't take my sarcasm very well. He thinks I'm honestly being mean and I have to slow down and remind him I'm just kidding.
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I know a 2nd decan Aquarian...according to website I found he's supposed to be ruled by Mercury, but he acts far from a Mercurian or even air sign. He has similar interests as other Aquariuses I know but he is like a pile of mud you can just slosh around and it doesn't matter. Maybe it's Aquarius mixed with Capricorn (well, Cap is an earth sign so maybe that's a "duh" on my part) but my dad has a Cappy moon and still a lot livelier than this dude. I also find he can't take my sarcasm very well. He thinks I'm honestly being mean and I have to slow down and remind him I'm just kidding.



That's probably because he's got that EXTRA saturn going on. The emphasis is even greater. Because his co ruler is Saturn. He will, follow the dictates of his rulership. And Uranus was only discovered by modern astrologers, so by hearsay

And about Ellen Degeneres, hmm if you all think about it and watch closely. She's very Saturnic too, very easy to understand, nothing ditzy about that woman. She gives back word for word, quick and agile mind, inserted with clever funny phrases that says she's intuitive about her audience and one-on-one conversations. Her unconventionalities are breaking the rules of society: marriage to another woman, which in the society she lives in, still wants to adhere to middle age darkness. Her message, is clear as day, love beyond the rules. But still respect the rules within the tradition. I suppose when I mentioned Sarah Palin, she does have way too much Aquarius in her chart, which gives off the far off Uranus energy. Still, there's just way too much to uncover, too many layers in an individual - despite the Sun sign patriarchial ruler, because to lodge it into one slot is just too superficial.