Aries reputation... (Page 3)

Posted by xoxflute

Posted by Parkourler

Thats a weak argument just because some libras are bad at diplomacy doesnt mean its bad. Even if there is no right or wrong way diplomacy is still the way of handling things the majority of people has agreed on.

If you yell, devalue, make scenes in public that is painful in a way its violence.

Being a 100% honest instead of being socially aware is wrong and antisocial.ItsTaking a few seconds to consciously phrase and modulate your voice.



It just still angers me that aries make so many bad things such as invading your space, interrupt tell people what to do but are rarely sorry about that. In threads they blame other people and their weaknesses, they imply people cant handle them if they werent funloving and childish i would be completely done with them.

Where did I say diplomacy is bad? I just mean diplomacy can be seen in a bad light by some people in the same way that directness impacts others. Diplomacy can be viewed anywhere from being tact to being manipulative. Directness can be viewed anywhere from honesty to rudeness. Omittance is between, but even some people sees omittance as deceit. It all depends on the other person. There's no right or wrong answer here, and that was my point. It's all about perspective. What you communicate, isn't necessarily going to be received the same way by the other person. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk that the other person might misunderstood and get angry at you regardless. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk of unintentionally causing pain to the other person.

And that's why Aries don't champion tact. What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it? What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset? What's the point of all that time and effort spent? Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

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Diplomacy and unwritten social rules ie etiquette etc. that society agreed upon are being followed by the majority of people so the probability is higher that you get ahead with tact even if there is no one size fits all approach. If you are blunt though the probability is higher that you trigger sideeffects that has nothing to do with what you say such as people feeling humiliated in public unfairly judged etc. All of the sudden many other factors come into play such as

shame, sensitivity, anger, looking bad in front of others etc.

To answer your questions:

What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it?

In that scenario you have no other choice and saying i will be brutally honest but.......

But that is the last resort. You see you add honesty to the diplomacy. And you gotta be selfcritical obviously you are doing something wrong

What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset?

Then you are doing something wrong.





What's the point of all that time and effort spent?

To add to the above, to avoid resistance, negative emotions that shifts the focus away from the content of the message.

Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

Yes. Cause maybe its your inability to communicate. If you are sure that is not the case then we need to think about the reasons for the resistance. But assuming first the person is unable to understand is pretty presumptious and demeaning.

Now its my turn ask leading questions.

What if you said that in public and the person is furious about that?

I assume the intention is bringing truth. What if its not THE truth but your truth?

How will the person will be open if she is insulted?

Why should the truth matter to the personif you use foul language which is demeaning?



If we would find examples of situations I would find parts of the behaviors and communications that i might find insulting you maybe not, i assume you wouldnt mind cause your goal is to be completely open totally unfiltered which might be raw aggressive impulsive. Do you agree? I am asking because that does sound holier than thou.

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Posted by Parkourler

Thats a weak argument just because some libras are bad at diplomacy doesnt mean its bad. Even if there is no right or wrong way diplomacy is still the way of handling things the majority of people has agreed on.

If you yell, devalue, make scenes in public that is painful in a way its violence.

Being a 100% honest instead of being socially aware is wrong and antisocial.ItsTaking a few seconds to consciously phrase and modulate your voice.



It just still angers me that aries make so many bad things such as invading your space, interrupt tell people what to do but are rarely sorry about that. In threads they blame other people and their weaknesses, they imply people cant handle them if they werent funloving and childish i would be completely done with them.

Why would we be sorry if we are right.

Spoken like a true aries. 😆

Why write an essay when we can say it all in one sentence.

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You mean like...I don’t give a fuck what you think about my reputation?

😂😂😂

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Posted by xoxflute

Posted by Parkourler

Thats a weak argument just because some libras are bad at diplomacy doesnt mean its bad. Even if there is no right or wrong way diplomacy is still the way of handling things the majority of people has agreed on.

If you yell, devalue, make scenes in public that is painful in a way its violence.

Being a 100% honest instead of being socially aware is wrong and antisocial.ItsTaking a few seconds to consciously phrase and modulate your voice.



It just still angers me that aries make so many bad things such as invading your space, interrupt tell people what to do but are rarely sorry about that. In threads they blame other people and their weaknesses, they imply people cant handle them if they werent funloving and childish i would be completely done with them.

Where did I say diplomacy is bad? I just mean diplomacy can be seen in a bad light by some people in the same way that directness impacts others. Diplomacy can be viewed anywhere from being tact to being manipulative. Directness can be viewed anywhere from honesty to rudeness. Omittance is between, but even some people sees omittance as deceit. It all depends on the other person. There's no right or wrong answer here, and that was my point. It's all about perspective. What you communicate, isn't necessarily going to be received the same way by the other person. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk that the other person might misunderstood and get angry at you regardless. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk of unintentionally causing pain to the other person.

And that's why Aries don't champion tact. What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it? What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset? What's the point of all that time and effort spent? Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

Diplomacy and unwritten social rules ie etiquette etc. that society agreed upon are being followed by the majority of people so the probability is higher that you get ahead with tact even if there is no one size fits all approach. If you are blunt though the probability is higher that you trigger sideeffects that has nothing to do with what you say such as people feeling humiliated in public unfairly judged etc. All of the sudden many other factors come into play such as

shame, sensitivity, anger, looking bad in front of others etc.

To answer your questions:

What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it?

In that scenario you have no other choice and saying i will be brutally honest but.......

But that is the last resort. You see you add honesty to the diplomacy. And you gotta be selfcritical obviously you are doing something wrong

What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset?

Then you are doing something wrong.





What's the point of all that time and effort spent?

To add to the above, to avoid resistance, negative emotions that shifts the focus away from the content of the message.

Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

Yes. Cause maybe its your inability to communicate. If you are sure that is not the case then we need to think about the reasons for the resistance. But assuming first the person is unable to understand is pretty presumptious and demeaning.

Now its my turn ask leading questions.

What if you said that in public and the person is furious about that?

I assume the intention is bringing truth. What if its not THE truth but your truth?

How will the person will be open if she is insulted?

Why should the truth matter to the personif you use foul language which is demeaning?



If we would find examples of situations I would find parts of the behaviors and communications that i might find insulting you maybe not, i assume you wpuldnt care cause your goal is to be completely open totally unfiltered which might be raw aggressive impulsive. Do you agree?

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None of which is exclusive to Aries Sun. Just on DXP alonr this is evident... if you forget all life once behind a computer, idk.

Why should the truth matter to the personif you use foul language which is demeaning?

Cause as my Libra mothers says, "some people like it hard."

My Virgo husband gets alot done in this manner you speak of.

How will the person will be open if she is insulted?

For some people, truth is an insult. How self-important to think that someone cares for "openess" of another. Most times it is closing and stopping that is really wanted.

I assume the intention is bringing truth. What if its not THE truth but your truth?

Shall you only attribute the negative Aries traits? As you know truth is one of them as well. And, were is this openess when considering "our truth?" Stay fixed, closed, to another's pov is brutal as far as I am concerned. It is of a psychologically aggressive nature.

What if you said that in public and the person is furious about that?

Public, private, is a concern of the haughtiest ego.

I've seen some very cowardly people depend on social etiquette to get away with all manner of ill will depending on a chess board called "social etiquette" to save them. They are terribly outraged and scared when the board is thrown to the floor.

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Posted by Parkourler

Thats a weak argument just because some libras are bad at diplomacy doesnt mean its bad. Even if there is no right or wrong way diplomacy is still the way of handling things the majority of people has agreed on.

If you yell, devalue, make scenes in public that is painful in a way its violence.

Being a 100% honest instead of being socially aware is wrong and antisocial.ItsTaking a few seconds to consciously phrase and modulate your voice.



It just still angers me that aries make so many bad things such as invading your space, interrupt tell people what to do but are rarely sorry about that. In threads they blame other people and their weaknesses, they imply people cant handle them if they werent funloving and childish i would be completely done with them.

Why would we be sorry if we are right.

Spoken like a true aries. 😆

Why write an essay when we can say it all in one sentence.

You mean like...I don’t give a fuck what you think about my reputation?

😂😂😂

Aries are one men or one woman armies, much like aqua and Scorpios we will always be outsiders because our mentality is different. Gemini would be similar if they weren't so good at socialising.

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We are really in tune...

He talks more than I do...as hard as it is to imagine...

People ALWAYS stoping us for some pointless reasons to talk...because we always laughing and loud and seems like they want to join in...😂

Posted by xoxflute

Posted by Parkourler

Thats a weak argument just because some libras are bad at diplomacy doesnt mean its bad. Even if there is no right or wrong way diplomacy is still the way of handling things the majority of people has agreed on.

If you yell, devalue, make scenes in public that is painful in a way its violence.

Being a 100% honest instead of being socially aware is wrong and antisocial.ItsTaking a few seconds to consciously phrase and modulate your voice.



It just still angers me that aries make so many bad things such as invading your space, interrupt tell people what to do but are rarely sorry about that. In threads they blame other people and their weaknesses, they imply people cant handle them if they werent funloving and childish i would be completely done with them.

Where did I say diplomacy is bad? I just mean diplomacy can be seen in a bad light by some people in the same way that directness impacts others. Diplomacy can be viewed anywhere from being tact to being manipulative. Directness can be viewed anywhere from honesty to rudeness. Omittance is between, but even some people sees omittance as deceit. It all depends on the other person. There's no right or wrong answer here, and that was my point. It's all about perspective. What you communicate, isn't necessarily going to be received the same way by the other person. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk that the other person might misunderstood and get angry at you regardless. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk of unintentionally causing pain to the other person.

And that's why Aries don't champion tact. What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it? What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset? What's the point of all that time and effort spent? Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

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Fuck them if they don’t understand!

It’s their problem...we both hate political correctness and love George Carlin! 👍

Posted by Parkourler

Posted by xoxflute

Posted by Parkourler

Thats a weak argument just because some libras are bad at diplomacy doesnt mean its bad. Even if there is no right or wrong way diplomacy is still the way of handling things the majority of people has agreed on.

If you yell, devalue, make scenes in public that is painful in a way its violence.

Being a 100% honest instead of being socially aware is wrong and antisocial.ItsTaking a few seconds to consciously phrase and modulate your voice.



It just still angers me that aries make so many bad things such as invading your space, interrupt tell people what to do but are rarely sorry about that. In threads they blame other people and their weaknesses, they imply people cant handle them if they werent funloving and childish i would be completely done with them.

Where did I say diplomacy is bad? I just mean diplomacy can be seen in a bad light by some people in the same way that directness impacts others. Diplomacy can be viewed anywhere from being tact to being manipulative. Directness can be viewed anywhere from honesty to rudeness. Omittance is between, but even some people sees omittance as deceit. It all depends on the other person. There's no right or wrong answer here, and that was my point. It's all about perspective. What you communicate, isn't necessarily going to be received the same way by the other person. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk that the other person might misunderstood and get angry at you regardless. Each time you communicate, there's always a risk of unintentionally causing pain to the other person.

And that's why Aries don't champion tact. What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it? What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset? What's the point of all that time and effort spent? Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

Diplomacy and unwritten social rules ie etiquette etc. that society agreed upon are being followed by the majority of people so the probability is higher that you get ahead with tact even if there is no one size fits all approach. If you are blunt though the probability is higher that you trigger sideeffects that has nothing to do with what you say such as people feeling humiliated in public unfairly judged etc. All of the sudden many other factors come into play such as

shame, sensitivity, anger, looking bad in front of others etc.

To answer your questions:

What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still don't get it?

In that scenario you have no other choice and saying i will be brutally honest but.......

But that is the last resort. You see you add honesty to the diplomacy. And you gotta be selfcritical obviously you are doing something wrong

What if after all that time and effort to sugarcoat the words, the other person still got upset?

Then you are doing something wrong.





What's the point of all that time and effort spent?

To add to the above, to avoid resistance, negative emotions that shifts the focus away from the content of the message.

Should we, as individuals, hold ourselves responsible for some people's inability to understand (like being in denial, for example)?

Yes. Cause maybe its your inability to communicate. If you are sure that is not the case then we need to think about the reasons for the resistance. But assuming first the person is unable to understand is pretty presumptious and demeaning.

Now its my turn ask leading questions.

What if you said that in public and the person is furious about that?

I assume the intention is bringing truth. What if its not THE truth but your truth?

How will the person will be open if she is insulted?

Why should the truth matter to the personif you use foul language which is demeaning?



If we would find examples of situations I would find parts of the behaviors and communications that i might find insulting you maybe not, i assume you wouldnt mind cause your goal is to be completely open totally unfiltered which might be raw aggressive impulsive. Do you agree? I am asking because that does sound holier than thou.

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Diplomacy is a lie! So there isn’t honesty in diplomacy! 🤮