do you sympathize with criminals?

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Posted by ValleysofNeptune
Oh and I mean I don't think they should be punished or defended for serious crimes like rape, murder, robbery, etc., you know, actual crimes. But people getting prison time for stuff like possession of marijuana is stupid and ridiculous
i dont think those people should go into prison with serious offenders like rapists and killers.

just to have possession of marijuana?

but the law is the law, and it sucks in some countries where you can't smoke it ...

some european countries can, but it's limited too, there's still laws about it. you can't grow it in your home ect.

and in the U.S. i heard some states already legalized cannabis for medical reasons.
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It's gonna be my job in the near future. I can't understand someone if I don't sympathize with them. And that is understanding what drove them to committing the crime in the first place. Anyone can do something they regret later, doesn't make them all bad people. Just flawed.

Most people just pass judgement because that's what people are best at, judging & looking down to others while refraining from shining the light of truth upon themselves......because they wouldn't like what they see.
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It's gonna be my job in the near future. I can't understand someone if I don't sympathize with them. And that is understanding what drove them to committing the crime in the first place. Anyone can do something they regret later, doesn't make them all bad people. Just flawed.

Most people just pass judgement because that's what people are best at, judging & looking down to others while refraining from shining the light of truth upon themselves......because they wouldn't like what they see.
i think people who would pass judgement easily are those who are loved ones (friends and families) of the victims, they are too distraught to care about the perpetrator's excuse.

edit and the rest of us, too, because we understand about their situation and if it ever happens to our families and friends ect. it is a great fear.
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Oh and I mean I don't think they should be punished or defended for serious crimes like rape, murder, robbery, etc., you know, actual crimes. But people getting prison time for stuff like possession of marijuana is stupid and ridiculous
i dont think those people should go into prison with serious offenders like rapists and killers.

just to have possession of marijuana?

but the law is the law, and it sucks in some countries where you can't smoke it ...

some european countries can, but it's limited too, there's still laws about it. you can't grow it in your home ect.

and in the U.S. i heard some states already legalized cannabis for medical reasons.
Yeah, lots of U.S. states have approved marijuana to be used medically, and a few have even legalized recreational use. But in some states you can still do some serious crime for possession of marijuana. You're right though, the law is the law and those people probably should've just been smarter and avoided it knowing the potential consequences. I just think it's a stupid law. I'm not as pro cannabis as some people but it's pretty safe and harmless relative to other drugs and a grown adult should be able to use it
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the only way to change the laws is to keep trying to appeal for it,

https://www.wikihow.com/Change-a-Law-Through-the-Democratic-Process



over time, these things can change.

but yea people need to follow the rules or face the consequences.
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Rules were put there for a reason. With that being said, you never know someone's life completely a hundred percent, and what they're going through etc...

Not saying I condone criminal activity but I can see where they're coming from at times. One decisions turns into another which turns into another and it snowballs from there and some people maybe can't handle what they created and therefore make really F'd up decisions...from my perspective. That's the key. Perspective.
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Posted by Mr_Pinchy
It is difficult to sympathize with a pedophile, cold-blood murderer, white collar criminal that swindled a fortune to pay off for his Bentley with the saved money of the plebs.


yes i see what you mean. it's hard to sympathize with this guy..



or these guys









i can't sympathesize because reading stuff like what he did to those men...

and when an asian boy ran away from him and cowered to the police with bad english and the police turned him over to jeffrey only to be killed and eaten again.
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It's obviously situational

Police can be really fucked up and horrible people.

The American justice system is fucked
can you give some examples?
Let's see.... white cops shooting and killing black people (no, not just men), basically indiscriminately.

Treyvon Martin

Michael Brown

Patrick Harmon

Deborah danner

Philando Castille

Alton Sterling

Eric garner

Many many many more

Cops try to rationalize their brutality and murder of these people, by claiming they are "criminals" a lot of the time. But many of these people were stopped on basic traffic stops and ended with their lives being taken.

They are fucked down where I live too. Several people have been shot when the situation did not call for it. Cops are sexually harrassing women, confiscating pot to smoke themselves, high on their machismo bc they got a gun.

Cops are not idols of decency and perfect example. So many abuse their power.

FUCK THE POLICE ✊

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there was something in the news recently about two corrupt policemen.

we should be able to trust our law enforcement.

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Posted by lisabethur8


yes i see what you mean. it's hard to sympathize with this guy..

i can't sympathesize because reading stuff like what he did to those men...

and when an asian boy ran away from him and cowered to the police with bad english and the police turned him over to jeffrey only to be killed and eaten again.
Personally and i know it won't be a popular opinion around here, i think some people should just be killed as punishment for the crimes committed.

Like...pedophile dude, ruins the lives of 10 kids and he get's 20 years, less on good behaviour. Where's the justice in that? (although that said, pedophiles are usually extremely hated in prisons and they get a dose of the informal justice system). But still, i think once you're fucked up beyond a certain point, no rehabilitation/readjustment efforts can help you.



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yes i see what you mean. it's hard to sympathize with this guy..

i can't sympathesize because reading stuff like what he did to those men...

and when an asian boy ran away from him and cowered to the police with bad english and the police turned him over to jeffrey only to be killed and eaten again.
Personally and i know it won't be a popular opinion around here, i think some people should just be killed as punishment for the crimes committed.

Like...pedophile dude, ruins the lives of 10 kids and he get's 20 years, less on good behaviour. Where's the justice in that? (although that said, pedophiles are usually extremely hated in prisons and they get a dose of the informal justice system). But still, i think once you're fucked up beyond a certain point, no rehabilitation/readjustment efforts can help you.



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i was suggesting something like turning them into Eunichs....there was a study where it actually stuns your sexual drive.

like cutting your penis off. they used to do that barbaric practice in the middle ages.

it's barbaric because it's inhuman to do that to a human being. lol

but in this case...it's great. (these guys forfeited their humanity and their human rights)
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i was suggesting something like turning them into Eunichs....there was a study where it actually stuns your sexual drive.

like cutting your penis off. they used to do that barbaric practice in the middle ages.

it's barbaric because it's inhuman to do that to a human being. lol

but in this case...it's great. (these guys forfeited their humanity and their human rights)




Hush now with this, we need to keep appearances of pisces moon empaths. 😆

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Posted by Impulsv
MY ROOMATE IS a bleeding liberal

JUSt victimized by having her storage facility broken into. Her tune changed

Until u got them breaking into your homes n cars then it’s not ok
It's like "you may not believe in god or guns, but when you're home alone and someone is downstairs you'll call someone with a gun and pray to god he/she makes it in time".



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Posted by ACsquarepluto
I used to sympathize with crimes of passion until I realized the best revenge is success, which will come to some degree with hard work. No one is worth your own incarceration or life. Crime is self-destructive and irresponsible, never something to romanticize.

One criminal who I do not believe held total responsibility for his actions was Adam Lanza. He was under his mom's roof who enabled him, let him fester in his own mind isolated in a room for months on end, and did not intervene when he dropped to a BMI in the 15's. He was malnourished. His mom turned a blind eye to his worsening mental state. Never went into his room to find his extensive writings and notes on killers and methods. They both died so neither could have taken responsibility, but Adam was a victim of negligence, causing the deaths of many.
I think here you touching absubject if mentally sick people and it’s not really for anyone to speak about.

It’s a tragic and those people can’t help themselves. It’s a horrific thing no one can control. Sadly.
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i've noticed that some people sympathize with certain criminals. and i wonder if it's because of the energy of the person in the charts?

for example, recently the story of the florida shooting of 17 people and many injured. this was cold calculated killing and there's many incidents of the 19 year old boy who has posted online media saying how he's gonna kill people and kill the cops,

and there's more sympathizers for him than someone who is that 15 year old girl who called and text the boy to his death.

i mean...why? they're both bad. they both participated. her indirectly she didnt pull the trigger or beat him to death but she lured him to his death.She admitted that.

and the other boy who killed people, everyone says he has problems at homes but in truth he didnt, the only problem is that he lost his mother. but many children lost their parents and dont go insane with guns and go out to shoot innocent people. i read he has autism but many children or adults with autism dont go out and kill either.

i mean, what about the sympathesizers for the 15 year old girl and the other children who participated?

bad upbringing? the system failed them too?
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Posted by Raakac
Depends, it's 10000times easier to judge, sure some criminals are really bad, but some have been pushed to circumstances. i knew a guy who was stealing food for hi's kids, he wanted to let kids go to the decent school so he started selling shit, sure it's not by any means good, but the intention, family, providing for it, i understand that, he got caught and he's in prison, the kinds are who the hell knows where...... It's part of hi's fault because he knew the risks he was taking, but that's about the law, they judge rather than understand, rather than giving man a decent job they send him to jail and take away the kinds, rather than helping and understanding they close him off. You can never win while you're a criminal, doesn't matter how many good things they do. If you have a label, you're a criminal, you're a drug dealer even tho he doesn't force to buy the drugs, people buy it themselves. Same shit with alcohol, it's a drug, but it's legal, government knows thousands people die because of if and they don't care, because it brings so much profit, same shit with cigarettes, meds and so on 😄 Some criminals even have badges..


then he needed to go to social services and get food stamps, and subsidized earnings from the government...

the problem is, it takes time but the food should be instant if they have places where you can pick up the food. but the money will take maybe a little longer.

that's why i'm glad the Obama care is still active and strong for those who really need it.

but i see what you mean about him wanting his children to go to a good school so he pushed for drugs.

the problem too is the school system, that children can go free, not having good education. or maybe it's the teachings.