What do you guys think about venus conj pluto in synastry? Also any extra thoughts if it's in Scorpio?
Venus Conjunct Pluto in Scorpio Synastry
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Here's an interesting article on it:
http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/03/venus-pluto-synastry/
http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/03/venus-pluto-synastry/
Just seems like it would be intense and passionate. Typical Scorpio stuff
Posted by saggurl88
Just seems like it would be intense and passionate. Typical Scorpio stuff
How about difference perspective of how the Venus person or how the Pluto person experiences the relationship/union?
Also this article here:
In synastry, Pluto brings intensity, obsession, possessiveness and a craving for intimacy. Pluto wants to delve deep to uncover whatās underneath the surface. Superficiality does not appeal to Pluto; he wants something deep. He wants something transformative, something that transcends the boundaries between two people. Not in the Neptunian, spiritual way, but in a more physical, psychological way. Venus, on the other hand, wants balance and harmony. Venus is known as a superficial planet, as she craves beauty and cooperation above everything.
When Pluto meets Venus in synastry, the Beast meets Beauty. Pluto is not impressed by Venusā social graces and flowery tastes. He is tremendously attracted to her charm, grace, and beauty, yes, but the attraction stems from far beyond her outer beauty. Pluto sees right into Venusās psyche. He wants to uncover her layers, and wants to know her deepest, darkest secrets. He wants to take Venus into the depths of intimacy, where true bonding and intimacy take place. At first, Venus is taken aback; she is both frightened and intrigued by Pluto. She is flattered by his attention and interest in getting to know her, but his intensity is frightening. She loves his passion, as it makes her feel desired and beautiful. Venus knows she cannot hide from Pluto, and the temptation is hard to resist. If Pluto feels his level of intensity is not matched by Venus, he will increase his intensity until they are on the same level.
As in all Pluto synastry aspects, the Pluto person has the āupper handā, and Venus is the submissive partner. As the relationship develops, the couple becomes demanding of each other. The fear of losing one another affects them both, giving rise to feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. Pluto desires complete domination and control over Venus, while Venus is eager to please Pluto. Pluto will continue to dig and dig at Venusā mind until he is satisfied with Venusā affection. āAll or Nothingā characterizes this union. Pluto is not willing to share Venus, and uses manipulative tactics to ensure Venus belongs to him, and him only.
Pluto forces Venus to see something about herself that she wanted to keep hidden. His role is to transform Venus by exploring the depths of intimacy and sharing. The relationship is highly sexual, and the chemistry is addictive. This level of passion is the highest you will have in your life as the two explore and play out each othersā deepest, darkest secrets and fantasies. This aspect can result in sexual exploitation, as well, given Plutoās dominance over Venus, and Venusā desire to please Pluto in any way she can.
If youāve ever read āFifty Shades of Grey,ā you have a good understanding of Venus-Pluto in synastry. In the book, the young, handsome millionaire, Grey, meets a young, innocent virgin, Ana, and the two begin a sexual relationship, characterized by dominance and submission. Grey calls the shots in the relationship, telling her the relationship will be only sexual in nature. Grey tests Anaās sexual limits, bringing out a sexual side of her she never knew existed. Ana finally becomes exhausted with the relationship, and leaves Grey, but the level of passion and intimacy the two shared would never be forgotten.
One final note: Venus-Pluto in synastry aspect can also result in financial exploitation. In addition to love and beauty, Venus also rules finances and personal possessions. Pluto may take advantage of Venusā desire to please him by taking over her finances.
The preceding description applies especially to hard aspects (conjunction, opposition, square) between Venus and Pluto in synastry. The sextile and trine encapsulate the positive side of Venus-Pluto; there is intensity and obsession, but it is less consuming and negative than we find in the hard aspects.
In synastry, Pluto brings intensity, obsession, possessiveness and a craving for intimacy. Pluto wants to delve deep to uncover whatās underneath the surface. Superficiality does not appeal to Pluto; he wants something deep. He wants something transformative, something that transcends the boundaries between two people. Not in the Neptunian, spiritual way, but in a more physical, psychological way. Venus, on the other hand, wants balance and harmony. Venus is known as a superficial planet, as she craves beauty and cooperation above everything.
When Pluto meets Venus in synastry, the Beast meets Beauty. Pluto is not impressed by Venusā social graces and flowery tastes. He is tremendously attracted to her charm, grace, and beauty, yes, but the attraction stems from far beyond her outer beauty. Pluto sees right into Venusās psyche. He wants to uncover her layers, and wants to know her deepest, darkest secrets. He wants to take Venus into the depths of intimacy, where true bonding and intimacy take place. At first, Venus is taken aback; she is both frightened and intrigued by Pluto. She is flattered by his attention and interest in getting to know her, but his intensity is frightening. She loves his passion, as it makes her feel desired and beautiful. Venus knows she cannot hide from Pluto, and the temptation is hard to resist. If Pluto feels his level of intensity is not matched by Venus, he will increase his intensity until they are on the same level.
As in all Pluto synastry aspects, the Pluto person has the āupper handā, and Venus is the submissive partner. As the relationship develops, the couple becomes demanding of each other. The fear of losing one another affects them both, giving rise to feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. Pluto desires complete domination and control over Venus, while Venus is eager to please Pluto. Pluto will continue to dig and dig at Venusā mind until he is satisfied with Venusā affection. āAll or Nothingā characterizes this union. Pluto is not willing to share Venus, and uses manipulative tactics to ensure Venus belongs to him, and him only.
Pluto forces Venus to see something about herself that she wanted to keep hidden. His role is to transform Venus by exploring the depths of intimacy and sharing. The relationship is highly sexual, and the chemistry is addictive. This level of passion is the highest you will have in your life as the two explore and play out each othersā deepest, darkest secrets and fantasies. This aspect can result in sexual exploitation, as well, given Plutoās dominance over Venus, and Venusā desire to please Pluto in any way she can.
If youāve ever read āFifty Shades of Grey,ā you have a good understanding of Venus-Pluto in synastry. In the book, the young, handsome millionaire, Grey, meets a young, innocent virgin, Ana, and the two begin a sexual relationship, characterized by dominance and submission. Grey calls the shots in the relationship, telling her the relationship will be only sexual in nature. Grey tests Anaās sexual limits, bringing out a sexual side of her she never knew existed. Ana finally becomes exhausted with the relationship, and leaves Grey, but the level of passion and intimacy the two shared would never be forgotten.
One final note: Venus-Pluto in synastry aspect can also result in financial exploitation. In addition to love and beauty, Venus also rules finances and personal possessions. Pluto may take advantage of Venusā desire to please him by taking over her finances.
The preceding description applies especially to hard aspects (conjunction, opposition, square) between Venus and Pluto in synastry. The sextile and trine encapsulate the positive side of Venus-Pluto; there is intensity and obsession, but it is less consuming and negative than we find in the hard aspects.
It can go either way but they say the Pluto person has the upper hand and the Venus person is more obsessed with Pluto. Depending too on if you already have this aspect in your birth chart or plutonian person.
Either way...it's a can't live without you type of aspect.
Either way...it's a can't live without you type of aspect.
It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.
In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc
Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton
In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc
Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton
so you mean Pluto Libra on Venus Libra kind of thing? is that it?
or Pluto Scorpio on venus scorpio?
i find alot of Pluto Scorpio, Pluto Libra, Pluto Virgo ...and even ew.. Pluto Leo liking my synastry in the past.
or Pluto Scorpio on venus scorpio?
i find alot of Pluto Scorpio, Pluto Libra, Pluto Virgo ...and even ew.. Pluto Leo liking my synastry in the past.
Posted by Bk201
It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.
In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc
Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton
oh that's interesting. Are you Pluto or Venus in that synastry? How do you view the relationship?
And yeah like how does Pluto and Venus experience the relationship differently if they do at all? Like which one is more into it? which one gets overwhelmed by it?
A lot of articles say that Pluto is more into it and Venus gets overwhelmed and tries to run.
Posted by lisabethur8
so you mean Pluto Libra on Venus Libra kind of thing? is that it?
or Pluto Scorpio on venus scorpio?
i find alot of Pluto Scorpio, Pluto Libra, Pluto Virgo ...and even ew.. Pluto Leo liking my synastry in the past.
In this case conjunct yes, like that.
Posted by perperuna
I have Venus sq. Pluto with my boyfriend. I am Pluto. Its a very deep and intense relationship.
So how do you view the relationship or your attraction to him other than deep & intense? Or may be examples?
Posted by Ellygant
I have venus/Pluto in Scorpio natally. So I have Pluto synastry pretty much with everyone 3/4 older or younger than me. Iāve been both the venus and the Pluto.
I donāt think thereās much difference honestly between which feels more or less. Other than the intensity is harder to process for the venus. Normally because theyāre surprised by it.
The only way a Pluto/venus relationship could survive is if both actually stop obsessing over who has the power/upperhand and resolve to be a power couple. Fight the world instead of each other. Transform themselves and the relationship by transforming those they can influence through their joined forces. Thatās my hope anyhow. All my relationships with that synastry (which has been most of them in general and every single serious one) ended because of dumb power plays and needing to have control for fear of losing the person. And it didnāt matter if I was venus or Pluto. Iāve been the initiator and the receiver in both positions. Worst tho was needing to have control for fear of losing the feeling of having power over another person (that relationship also had a lot of squares to Pluto tho).
Hereās to hoping itās workable tho. And someone finds it less mystifying like myself. Or Maybe I just need to start dating a bit older. š
lol that's so interesting! I'm having this right now and like this Venus person doesn't even know the half of it or all these poems that were inspired by them i'm just hiding away. Will definitely present at the right time because I can sense that Venus person would not be ready for it at all! Baby steps. For me as Pluto it feels so natural to just dive in and who cares about the consequence because it feels good right now. Intuitively I know better. Also, being a Cap somewhat helps and other times makes it worse. Because when you get shunned as Pluto it hurts like hell and being a Cap you want to withdraw even more.
Posted by EllygantPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by Ellygant
I have venus/Pluto in Scorpio natally. So I have Pluto synastry pretty much with everyone 3/4 older or younger than me. Iāve been both the venus and the Pluto.
I donāt think thereās much difference honestly between which feels more or less. Other than the intensity is harder to process for the venus. Normally because theyāre surprised by it.
The only way a Pluto/venus relationship could survive is if both actually stop obsessing over who has the power/upperhand and resolve to be a power couple. Fight the world instead of each other. Transform themselves and the relationship by transforming those they can influence through their joined forces. Thatās my hope anyhow. All my relationships with that synastry (which has been most of them in general and every single serious one) ended because of dumb power plays and needing to have control for fear of losing the person. And it didnāt matter if I was venus or Pluto. Iāve been the initiator and the receiver in both positions. Worst tho was needing to have control for fear of losing the feeling of having power over another person (that relationship also had a lot of squares to Pluto tho).
Hereās to hoping itās workable tho. And someone finds it less mystifying like myself. Or Maybe I just need to start dating a bit older. š
lol that's so interesting! I'm having this right now and like this Venus person doesn't even know the half of it or all these poems that were inspired by them i'm just hiding away. Will definitely present at the right time because I can sense that Venus person would not be ready for it at all! Baby steps. For me as Pluto it feels so natural to just dive in and who cares about the consequence because it feels good right now. Intuitively I know better. Also, being a Cap somewhat helps and other times makes it worse. Because when you get shunned as Pluto it hurts like hell and being a Cap you want to withdraw even more.
It really wonāt be that bad if the other person has Pluto aspects natally.even when I was venus I was shocked, but more by the experience and how amazing it was and that it was really happening. It wasnāt by the person. I wasnāt frightened off. But my chart is also a Pluto palooza too. It aspects every plant in my chart except one I believe. And no angles. Someone with less Pluto influence would ben overwhelmed. Especially if theyāre dominant in Taurus, leo or Aquarius.
However great sun-moon aspects both ways equalizes out outer planet astrology. Saturn aspects as well, especially soft aspects to the sun or moon or any Saturn aspect to the angles. Jupiter as well to the sun, moon or mars would add dimension and lighten synastry.click to expand
Yes... I don't know this person is a little skiddish so not sure if they'd enjoy the intensity. I kind of wait for them to show me 1 step then i take 2..then wait for another one etc.
Venus person got pluto/moon aspect.
Other synastry parts got: Sun/Moon Aspect, like 1 saturn aspect, 1 jupiter aspect, and lots of mars and merc aspects though
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Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by saggurl88
Just seems like it would be intense and passionate. Typical Scorpio stuff
How about difference perspective of how the Venus person or how the Pluto person experiences the relationship/union?click to expand
Hmmmm............my Scorpio Venus would probably just feel super attached and like I know the person. I get this kind of attraction often. I recognize it immediately. It's a comfort zone for me. I can tell the usually feel the same way. At least until I fuck something up! š
Posted by libraman20
I can speak at length on the topic (I have natal Venus conj Pluto in Scorp within 2-3 degrees) and my last two GFs were within 2 months of my age so their Pluto was also conjunct my Venus. That said, instead of writing a paper on it, I'll say this important point which often gets glossed over:
How familiar/comfortable one is with Plutonic energy makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE in how the relationship plays out.
Many debate on whether the Venus person or the Pluto person is more invested, but it depends more on which person is more Plutonic natally.
My experiences:
1) My last ex-GF had a natal Moon square Pluto, and was overall more Plutonic than me (My Pluto also squared her Moon because were were within a month in age). My Pluto-side came out in relationships, but generally speaking, the Moon is more personal than Venus, so her Plutonic traits were more pronounced and visible. She was dark, mysterious, hot/cold, unpredictable and incredibly attractive. But the relationship ended up in flames because it became TOO Plutonic. Power plays, jealousy, all that nonsense that I'm aware is a part of my Venus-nature (but know better than to act on) were all part of her everyday personality, and she held more of the power generally speaking. Naturally, I ended up playing her game, and ended up leaving her when she took it too far. It messed both of us up, and we haven't spoken in over a year.
2) The current girl I'm seeing has no hard natal Pluto aspects (she might have a trine/sextile, but those are literally nothing compared to the Conjunction/Square tbh). Her Scorp Pluto is pretty much directly on my Scorpio Venus. Anyways, it's been a very balanced relationship thus far. I haven't felt any Pluto urges at all, because she hasn't done anything to spark that side. She does sometimes get hot/cold and I can tell there's something about the energy between us that's heavy and unsettling/unfamiliar to her, but she hasn't talked about it yet.
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Long story short, conjunctions with Pluto are no joke (Squares and Opps too, but they're different). Moon/Pluto connections might be even heavier than Venus/Pluto, but in a different way.
But the more Plutonic person will generally hold the power.
hmm i don't have any pluto aspects. I got Pluto in Scorpio in 7th House. Also Mars in 8th House.
He's got Pluto trine Moon I think.
As a Pluto person though any sign of rejection or lack of deep communication cuts deep.
Posted by stillstillwater
As a Pluto person though any sign of rejection or lack of deep communication cuts deep.
Pretty much, but that's ironically how Pluto operates as well. That's why it's such a mess when both sides are playing Pluto games, but the potential is incredible if and only if both people are self-aware and communicative.
I'm pretty much bound to be in a Plutonic relationship because of my natal Scorp Venus/Pluto, so I have to find my balance and peace with it in order to be in a happy relationship (and she would have to have come to terms with hers as well). It's not easy, but it's hard to want anything else when you've felt that depth.
Posted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwater
As a Pluto person though any sign of rejection or lack of deep communication cuts deep.
Pretty much, but that's ironically how Pluto operates as well. That's why it's such a mess when both sides are playing Pluto games, but the potential is incredible if and only if both people are self-aware and communicative.
I'm pretty much bound to be in a Plutonic relationship because of my natal Scorp Venus/Pluto, so I have to find my balance and peace with it in order to be in a happy relationship (and she would have to have come to terms with hers as well). It's not easy, but it's hard to want anything else when you've felt that depth.click to expand
Why are you bound with it with Pluto and Venus Scorpio?
I personally dig the energy but I used to it with having scorp rising and venus/Pluto natally...though mine is Sextile I do believe...plus some other Pluto aspects
I've been both.
1st...I do believe I was Pluto and def play the part (I was a lot younger than too). I would say Venus was more obsessed and for me it was a slower process. It hurt like hell when ever we would break up and when things were final when he passed away...I died along with him.
2nd...I believe I was Venus. I was mesmerized by him and he was obsessed with me...to the point where he (completely forgot about this) kinda stalked me driving passed a friend's house and knew my work schedule and would stay until close talking to me. Then I think it kinda switched...we were both crazy about each other (I believe we still are) but I needed to break free and I did. If we see each other again (and we will) it will start the process all over again.
3rd...didn't really get off the ground but we had an intense bond right off the bat. I believe I'm Pluto again and he is Venus (my chart ruler is Pluto and his is Venus as well). Hate to say it since he did me dirty but we both can't seem to get each other out of our heads and we seem miserable being apart. I honestly think it's freaks him out because he stated he doesn't understand how he can be so comfortable with someone more so than anyone he ever met (I do believe this) but again...what's done is done but it sucks still the same. We may end up being really good friends though.
All of mine have been either trine or Sextile...so the intensity is still there plus other Pluto aspects.
It's honestly the only type of relationship I want...I need it, crave it seem to seek it out. š¤·
I've been both.
1st...I do believe I was Pluto and def play the part (I was a lot younger than too). I would say Venus was more obsessed and for me it was a slower process. It hurt like hell when ever we would break up and when things were final when he passed away...I died along with him.
2nd...I believe I was Venus. I was mesmerized by him and he was obsessed with me...to the point where he (completely forgot about this) kinda stalked me driving passed a friend's house and knew my work schedule and would stay until close talking to me. Then I think it kinda switched...we were both crazy about each other (I believe we still are) but I needed to break free and I did. If we see each other again (and we will) it will start the process all over again.
3rd...didn't really get off the ground but we had an intense bond right off the bat. I believe I'm Pluto again and he is Venus (my chart ruler is Pluto and his is Venus as well). Hate to say it since he did me dirty but we both can't seem to get each other out of our heads and we seem miserable being apart. I honestly think it's freaks him out because he stated he doesn't understand how he can be so comfortable with someone more so than anyone he ever met (I do believe this) but again...what's done is done but it sucks still the same. We may end up being really good friends though.
All of mine have been either trine or Sextile...so the intensity is still there plus other Pluto aspects.
It's honestly the only type of relationship I want...I need it, crave it seem to seek it out. š¤·
Posted by stillstillwater
Why are you bound with it with Pluto and Venus Scorpio?
Venus relates to how you define love, what you find beautiful, and for a man, what you look for in a woman. When you have Venus/Pluto conjunct, especially in Scorpio, it completely transforms what you look for and crave in a relationship, and also the type of women I'm into.
So naturally, I'm drawn to women with Scorpio placements or Pluto aspects natally (or in synastry with me).
Not to mention, wherever Pluto touches on your chart (hard aspects namely), will be the deepest parts of you. And after experiencing a Venus/Pluto relationship, it hits deeper than anything else (Moon/Pluto too). And other non-Plutonic relationships won't hit that deep, and thus, feel unsatisfactory (even if they're much less painful).
To be honest, I was a skeptic of most astrology until my Venus/Pluto relationship. There was so much energy there that I couldn't understand or figure out.click to expand
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by Bk201
It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.
In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc
Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton
oh that's interesting. Are you Pluto or Venus in that synastry? How do you view the relationship?
And yeah like how does Pluto and Venus experience the relationship differently if they do at all? Like which one is more into it? which one gets overwhelmed by it?
A lot of articles say that Pluto is more into it and Venus gets overwhelmed and tries to run.click to expand
Do you mind if I pm you this info, and you can ask me whatever? I'm just not a big fan of discussing my private life on dxp
Posted by Bk201Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by Bk201
It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.
In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc
Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton
oh that's interesting. Are you Pluto or Venus in that synastry? How do you view the relationship?
And yeah like how does Pluto and Venus experience the relationship differently if they do at all? Like which one is more into it? which one gets overwhelmed by it?
A lot of articles say that Pluto is more into it and Venus gets overwhelmed and tries to run.
Do you mind if I pm you this info, and you can ask me whatever? I'm just not a big fan of discussing my private life on dxpclick to expand
Yes plz
Posted by Impulsv
The Venus played the power games but I also sense fear on his end
I didnāt feel like the one with the upper hand
He kept ending it n ten return only to end it
Both seeking each other out
For me after six months of fighting it would bring me to knees n Iād reach out
For him I donāt know why he would
Did it twice
Thatās crazy. Why keep returning and leaving ?
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by Impulsv
The Venus played the power games but I also sense fear on his end
I didnāt feel like the one with the upper hand
He kept ending it n ten return only to end it
Both seeking each other out
For me after six months of fighting it would bring me to knees n Iād reach out
For him I donāt know why he would
Did it twice
Thatās crazy. Why keep returning and leaving ?
Still confused trying to figure his side
Either the worst man ever using me to feed his ego
Or felt the pull too
But mine I swear i say done never
But the pain depression n battled for six month but the pain of separation was so much bringing me to my knees n Iād reach out
He was always happy though to hear from me
Then cycle again
Then heād leave I move on again pain but then six months pass n he reached out.
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yes...so you know all astrologist say that Pluto is in power but it's really not true. Venus is like an inspiration and a muse so how can Pluto be in control or power when it's inspired by Venus. As Pluto person I'm always giving in.
Posted by Impulsv
You ask why would you answer the call
Well it was thanksgiving n was with sister
I swear the night before I had a knowing he was going to call
I
Tossed and turned battleting wether to forgive him n not. Then that morning I turn the radio n itās a song he dedicated. Now I was embarrassed to tell my sister of my strong premonition but I told her if what I think will happen
Happens Iāll tell you I won the lottery n explain what I mean by that.
So I got on the plane back home n read a spiritual book n then I vowed I was letting it in Godās hands if he is meant to return with or without him Iāll be happy.
As I walk down that plane stairs n turn on my phone
I got his message. I called back
Only for him to leave three
weeks later of meeting n talking
Cruel universe eh
Yep I feel like Pluto does get it worse. We get the more intense and intuitive side of it.
I can't stop the dreams.
Venus folks? how do you feel?
Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.
Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.
like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwater
like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.
They do act non cholant
But me ex lost a lot of weight during a break
Skin n bone , depression too.
Weād catch up n talk about things weāve learned or changes for n life
O e break was because I wasnāt open n I told him
Six months later first thing he says Iām much open to life now.click to expand
so did he open up with you about the reasons?
Posted by Arielle83Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by Arielle83
I have it in Virgo with a Capricorn
How do you feel about it?
Really intense dirty sexclick to expand
lol details?
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwater
like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.
They do act non cholant
But me ex lost a lot of weight during a break
Skin n bone , depression too.
Weād catch up n talk about things weāve learned or changes for n life
O e break was because I wasnāt open n I told him
Six months later first thing he says Iām much open to life now.
so did he open up with you about the reasons?
No, when I asked is when heād runā?
Made no sense
Assuming you are asking the reason he leftclick to expand
smh in this aspect Pluto always is portrayed as the bad guy...manipulator in power..but I think really Pluto is more expressive, honest, and true. Venus just runs and denies.
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwater
like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.
They do act non cholant
But me ex lost a lot of weight during a break
Skin n bone , depression too.
Weād catch up n talk about things weāve learned or changes for n life
O e break was because I wasnāt open n I told him
Six months later first thing he says Iām much open to life now.
so did he open up with you about the reasons?
No, when I asked is when heād runā?
Made no sense
Assuming you are asking the reason he left
smh in this aspect Pluto always is portrayed as the bad guy...manipulator in power..but I think really Pluto is more expressive, honest, and true. Venus just runs and denies.
Like the dynamic in this song
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Wow!! This song is a powerhouse! If there's any Venus out there who might want to know how Pluto feels this is golden. So beautiful. So sincere. So true.
I can't recall the number of times I've told myself that it's going to be okay only to end up wanting this person.
@impulsv I feel like there has been times where you've thrown shade at my posts or at my feelings but honestly you posting that song just like clears the slate for me.
Posted by Arielle83Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by Arielle83Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by Arielle83
I have it in Virgo with a Capricorn
How do you feel about it?
Really intense dirty sex
lol details?
Heās 12 yrs older. Heās cheeky with me at work.
First time I was at his drinking as mates. Then I fell on his couch cuz I was tired and he just lifts my dress and starts going down on me.
Since then, intense eye contact. I role play out of the blue and he gets into it. Iām akways the naive younger girl and he plays the dirty old man taking advantage.
Heās has no boundaries. I let him push mine.
We fuvk for hours and watch porn while were into it. Itās just a lot of sex and chemistry.
All that and we can do normal things too.
He holds my hand when he drives.
Takes me out. It all feels balanced.
Heās fiery and I think he gets a bit sexually dominant but I let himclick to expand
So very sexual!
And how do you feel about this person? Or the influence they have?
Posted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwater
Venus folks? how do you feel?
Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.
While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.
I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?
In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.click to expand
Wow see from Venus position you think this person is playing games. But i guarantee they showed you some kind of vulenrabilty that you dismisses and that's what is causing the imbalance. They feel rejected. Tehy want you to finally accept the intense feelings you have between the two of you. They want you to stop denying it. Because Pluto does not deny it and they let you know but may be you just dont' see they way they're expressing it. For Plut they feel like they put their whole heart at your feet and it's your time to reciprocate.
Pluto is all like... i'm sorry if I hurt you... It's just I want you so bad.
Venus is like right on. la la la la la
lmao the contrast is rediculous
Venus is like right on. la la la la la
lmao the contrast is rediculous
Posted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwater
Venus folks? how do you feel?
Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.
While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.
I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?
In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.
Wow see from Venus position you think this person is playing games. But i guarantee they showed you some kind of vulenrabilty that you dismisses and that's what is causing the imbalance. They feel rejected. Tehy want you to finally accept the intense feelings you have between the two of you. They want you to stop denying it. Because Pluto does not deny it and they let you know but may be you just dont' see they way they're expressing it. For Plut they feel like they put their whole heart at your feet and it's your time to reciprocate.
I get the rejected part, but Pluto's reactions are so hardcore, and the signs they show (if they show any) are so subtle.
Random example from early in our relationship:
- I lay out all my feelings out for her one night when we were out drinking, she downplays hers, even though there's clearly a crazy obsession from both sides. I feel like crap, so we call it a night.
- Next day she gives me longing looks as if she wants me to come home with her that day, but in my head, I'm still thinking about what she said the day before. I don't go back with her.
- She ignores me for a few days and flirts heavily with a guy I know she's not interested in. She does this more if she sees that it's affecting me...but when I show that I'm unbothered, she starts staring at me longingly and starts tearing up.
Like, its a terrible cycle that would never happen if she would've just admitted her feelings too.
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Woww! That's crazy. You guys got any double pluto/etc aspect?
Because as just a Venus/Pluto conjunct, i wait for an olive branch and give back a whole tree. Like whatever I get what I give back is 100x more.
Posted by Impulsv
You know what I think Venus did think of it as bending the knee power struggle but that was farthest from the truth
Not sure why they see it that way
yeah i think from Pluto aspect it's like don't deny it. just accept it and give in to it.
But Venus thinks that if they do that they'll lose their power. But it's not true. I think Pluto gives back more than they receive. But they want to feel sane and have a reason to give back.
So can you imagine borderline being crazy and in love with this person but not knowing why. that's Pluto. so they need reassurance from Venus.
@libraman20 I will agree that Pluto will go to whatever extent to get a reaction. They just need it so much. It's really insane. If you only knew how much they wanted you I suppose you might understand.
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by Impulsv
You know what I think Venus did think of it as bending the knee power struggle but that was farthest from the truth
Not sure why they see it that way
yeah i think from Pluto aspect it's like don't deny it. just accept it and give in to it.
But Venus thinks that if they do that they'll lose their power. But it's not true. I think Pluto gives back more than they receive. But they want to feel sane and have a reason to give back.
So can you imagine borderline being crazy and in love with this person but not knowing why. that's Pluto. so they need reassurance from Venus.
Iām starting to believe in astrology
This is exactly it
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Yep as Pluto you go between trying to cause a reaction so that you can feel SANE then just consoling yourself and retreating to what you think Venus thinks is normal. Then something they do or say triggers you to become obsessed again and you try to get it back. You try. and if you can't once again you pull back to try to meet Venus' level.
Posted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwater
Venus folks? how do you feel?
Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.
While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.
I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?
In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.
Wow see from Venus position you think this person is playing games. But i guarantee they showed you some kind of vulenrabilty that you dismisses and that's what is causing the imbalance. They feel rejected. Tehy want you to finally accept the intense feelings you have between the two of you. They want you to stop denying it. Because Pluto does not deny it and they let you know but may be you just dont' see they way they're expressing it. For Plut they feel like they put their whole heart at your feet and it's your time to reciprocate.
I get the rejected part, but Pluto's reactions are so hardcore, and the signs they show (if they show any) are so subtle.
Random example from early in our relationship:
- I lay out all my feelings out for her one night when we were out drinking, she downplays hers, even though there's clearly a crazy obsession from both sides. I feel like crap, so we call it a night.
- Next day she gives me longing looks as if she wants me to come home with her that day, but in my head, I'm still thinking about what she said the day before. I don't go back with her.
- She ignores me for a few days and flirts heavily with a guy I know she's not interested in. She does this more if she sees that it's affecting me...but when I show that I'm unbothered, she starts staring at me longingly and starts tearing up.
Like, its a terrible cycle that would never happen if she would've just admitted her feelings too.
Woww! That's crazy. You guys got any double pluto/etc aspect?
Because as just a Venus/Pluto conjunct, i wait for an olive branch and give back a whole tree. Like whatever I get what I give back is 100x more.
My Venus (Scorp) conjunct her Pluto (Scorp): 2 degrees
My Pluto (Scorp) square her Moon (Leo): 2 degrees
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My Moon (Virgo) sextile her Pluto (Scorp): 3 degrees
My Pluto (Scorp) sextile her Mars (Virgo): 2 degrees
We had some other sextiles too, but the top two are the big ones.
And lots of sextiles with Pluto tooclick to expand
Whoa so you had it both ways that each was Pluto and the other aspect. That makes it so much more complicated. Holy!! GOd bless. Don't know how you survived it.
We just have this one Pluto aspect and half the time I'm drowning. The other half pretending lol.
@libraman20 you don't know how much I feel for you. Those aspects were so heavy going both ways, Just no wonder you guys can't get on the same level.
Posted by peachy06
I have this conjuction and it's tiring tbh
in your natal chart? or with someone as a synastry?
Pluto Confessions:
I just want to take you away. Hide you away. If you don't understand, I understand.
I just want to take you away. Hide you away. If you don't understand, I understand.
Posted by Impulsv
He did have me behaved in ways Iād never do
Heād try to get me jealous talking about so n so likes him
So Iād bring up my conquest lol
Said how this 22 year old at work was flirting with him .
So Iām like yeah I get younger guys hitting on me too.( which is true lol) fml
lol its funny that we say all these things and then inside our head we're FML none of this matters. YOU matter. that's it. lolll
Posted by libraman20Posted by stillstillwater
Whoa so you had it both ways that each was Pluto and the other aspect. That makes it so much more complicated. Holy!! GOd bless. Don't know how you survived it.
We just have this one Pluto aspect and half the time I'm drowing. The other half pretending lol.
Yeah we had lots of conjunctions between our personal planets too.
It's kinda saddening to hear it affecting you guys from the Pluto spot so much, because she definitely had the power as the Pluto person from my experience. If she ever said any of those things to me, things might've been different. And most sites will say that Pluto has more power, but through action (i.e. not showing their feelings). Both sides feel very vulnerable but Venus is more likely to express it. Venus is also more likely to flirt with others, so that can drive Pluto insane.
And she finally took it too far (involved aforementioned guy she had no feelings for), and I ended it on the spot. I couldn't take it anymore. Soon after she moved and went into hiding across the country, she's completely gone off the map and word is she's very depressed. And that's sad to me, but if I think about how she was acting when we were together, it's hard for me to feel that bad. She was being so cold, erratic, and also being emotional without ever sharing them with me.click to expand
I really do understand what you mean and that you had to look out for your well weing. It just seems you guys had a lot of pluto aspects that was making things too unclear.
For example I remember an example so stupid but htis is how heavy this aspect is:
One time we were sharing songs back and forth and hten I sent a song that reminded me of him because of the time we met it was playing in my car and it just stuck with me as a memory of him. I shared this song with him adn he was like oh yeah typical girly song.
I was so crushed!!!!! And really it wasn't his fault. He didn't understand. To me that song was just a reminder of him and flooding of emotions. But i guess hwo was he supposed to know that. See it gets complicated like that because after his comment I felt so crushed I didn't want to explain and was just over it for the moment.
Pluto sucks because you put these huge emphasis on really almost meaningless points.
One time we were sharing songs back and forth and hten I sent a song that reminded me of him because of the time we met it was playing in my car and it just stuck with me as a memory of him. I shared this song with him adn he was like oh yeah typical girly song.
I was so crushed!!!!! And really it wasn't his fault. He didn't understand. To me that song was just a reminder of him and flooding of emotions. But i guess hwo was he supposed to know that. See it gets complicated like that because after his comment I felt so crushed I didn't want to explain and was just over it for the moment.
Pluto sucks because you put these huge emphasis on really almost meaningless points.
Posted by Impulsv
Although he knew I loved him
I never told him until year four
For Pluto we might think we are obvious n vulnerable
He did say he knew all along
But remember how can I saw it after 1st rejection
Then after year four I said regardless of his answer
It needed to be out
I hope libraman u can forgive
Iām sure werenāt perfect in it either
so wtf if he knew all along... then...what gives? Maybe just both sides need the other one to confess.
But even if they do it'll never be enough. You said yu loved me but not enough etc...
Posted by Impulsv
Although he knew I loved him
I never told him until year four
For Pluto we might think we are obvious n vulnerable
He did say he knew all along
But remember how can I saw it after 1st rejection
Then after year four I said regardless of his answer
It needed to be out
I hope libraman u can forgive
Iām sure werenāt perfect in it either
Yeah I have forgiven her, but more than anything, I wish she'd say sorry. I apologized for whatever wrong I did or hurt I caused, but she never did.
Actually, more than anything, I wish we could start over from scratch but that's not gonna happen.
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