@DwellingOnMove
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Would you fee?
Understanding Karmic Contacts and Relationships
Karmic contacts in a birth chart suggest lessons or unresolved issues between individuals. Fleeing or staying depends on personal growth and awareness of these karmic patterns. Recognizing these contacts can help you navigate relationships with more clarity and intention.
it must not be neccessarily a love relationship.
they say such connections are draining.
reminds me of Hancock.
Posted by WarAngel1
I'm already going through it. If I could run away, I would. Since I can't, I'm dealing with one aspect at a time.Things are better now than 10 years ago.
ah, thanks.
but you're scorp. like thrills, right?
Posted by DwellingOnMove
from a person whose chart has at least three karmik contacts to yours?What are some indicators of karmic contac in a chart/synastry?
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oops, I thoutht the links above say something. but they are general blabla.
karmic gives with 12th house overlay. Or Saturn aspects. Or South Node aspects. maybe more. web search!
Posted by DwellingOnMove
from a person whose chart has at least three karmik contacts to yours?What are some indicators of karmic contac in a chart/synastry?
oops, I thoutht the links above say something. but they are general blabla.
karmic gives with 12th house overlay. Or Saturn aspects. Or South Node aspects. maybe more. web search!
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for the start:
Posted by Effervescent
Hell no.Sounds like a really good learning lesson through that person.
I see. a young one, heh?
what if this degree opposes your Saturn? and squares your Neptune? (no, it does not get better when I look more)
Janduz interpretation, rewritten by Astrotheme
"A man strives to walk against a strong wind instead of mounting his horse, which a servant pulls by the bridle."
Unintelligent, stubborn and boasting character. One behaves with arrogance and tends to meddle in other people's business, which brings about numerous enmities. ... If the natal chart indicates great intellectual capacities, the interpretation of this degree is brighter, but one must refrain from attacking people who are stronger.
Are such aspects cheap? every other synastry has some?
for me this is the first time I see more than four karmic aspects between my chart and somebody else. Didn't I look deep enough?
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.
Moon Square Moon 0.26 -371
Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Moon Opposition Uranus 0.54 -85
Venus Conjunction Mars 2.40 130
Venus Conjunction Pluto 3.58 69
Venus Sextile Ascendant 1.13 67
Mars Opposition Jupiter 0.18 -84
Mars Square Pluto 0.40 -95
Jupiter Opposition Uranus 3.09 -42
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Uranus Conjunction Mercury 4.52 75
Uranus Sextile Jupiter 1.44 39
Neptune Square Venus 0.45 -108
Neptune Sextile Mars 1.31 43
Pluto Conjunction Mars 1.25 92
Ascendant Trine Sun 1.25 105
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
Posted by DwellingOnMove
what if this degree opposes your Saturn? and squares your Neptune? (no, it does not get better when I look more)Janduz interpretation, rewritten by Astrotheme
"A man strives to walk against a strong wind instead of mounting his horse, which a servant pulls by the bridle."
Unintelligent, stubborn and boasting character. One behaves with arrogance and tends to meddle in other people's business, which brings about numerous enmities. ... If the natal chart indicates great intellectual capacities, the interpretation of this degree is brighter, but one must refrain from attacking people who are stronger.
Ach, but where is the fun in attacking weak enemies?
You know, Dwelling, after all the years and people dying left and right, manipulations and outright lies, the only enemy a person truly faces is said person itself. The rest is up to the sleight of hand and a lucky card.
But then, I never learn and why should I 😉
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I got your message.
I bring another question (your comment took me there):
can a "willing to self-undo" 12th houser change the robotics of his/her reaction to the unjustified pressure?
I might be on a wrong path. cause I feel even transit Moon in Scorpio (my 12th house) changes me.
self-fulfillingfilfulling prophecy?
Posted by Deedee86
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
you are soooooooooo right. you both have a lucky karmic one. not even one square or opposition.
I see, why should you flee? from home?
“Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.” Helen Keller had Lilith in Pisces, can’t you tell?!
from http://www.astroknowlogy.com/questions/pls-describe-lilith-in-pisces-in-this-chart
I never flee, but break. Anyways, how are we supposed to know if they are 'deserved' punishments or we are just looking for excuses to keep a toxic relationship going?
Posted by Blackburn
I never flee, but break. Anyways, how are we supposed to know if they are 'deserved' punishments or we are just looking for excuses to keep a toxic relationship going?
now, how?
silly me.
yeah, it's difficult and the reason why I'm sitting sleepless here. in europe it's 30 after midnight.
Posted by Blackburn
I never flee, but break. Anyways, how are we supposed to know if they are 'deserved' punishments or we are just looking for excuses to keep a toxic relationship going?now, how?
silly me.
yeah, it's difficult and the reason why I'm sitting sleepless here. in europe it's 30 after midnight.
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I know.
Following 12th and Pluto's guide consciously leads to a self fulfilling prophecy.
Posted by Shadowcat
Looked at your link.Saturn sextile Sun
Saturn trine moon
Venus conjunct pluto
Venus trine pluto
Venus sextile uranus
Saturn in the 8th
when I created the thread, the possibility of good karmic relation was absent in my mind. cause my own was based on opposition, square, conj. to SN, or Sat in 12.
now I see there are lucky guys like you and DeeDee86. how nice for yall.
Posted by Blackburn
I never flee, but break. Anyways, how are we supposed to know if they are 'deserved' punishments or we are just looking for excuses to keep a toxic relationship going?now, how?
silly me.
yeah, it's difficult and the reason why I'm sitting sleepless here. in europe it's 30 after midnight.
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I know.
Following 12th and Pluto's guide consciously leads to a self fulfilling prophecy.
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I wish I were a hero. I've tried it. in theory everything is ok. in practice I fail right after half of a day. I guess I should be true to my own nature. freedom loving pretending to be an understanding slave? kartoon.
Posted by Deedee86
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
you are soooooooooo right. you both have a lucky karmic one. not even one square or opposition.
I see, why should you flee? from home?
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He flees from me all the time.
I don't understand. He loves me, that I am sure of, but he runs.
@xghy, thank you for caring to share.
Posted by Deedee86
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
you are soooooooooo right. you both have a lucky karmic one. not even one square or opposition.
I see, why should you flee? from home?
He flees from me all the time.
I don't understand. He loves me, that I am sure of, but he runs.
when I put things together that I read today (so bascially all theory), I'd say he knows he want to marry you. But he tries to keep distance so that it does not happen soon. cause maybe in his value system you don't marry at this time and stage of life. or just after n months. or some thing like that.
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Yes, we have a wedding date set....9/15/23
We wanted our kids to be done with school so we don't have to disrupt their lives.
We've had that date set for years. He's even given me jewelry with that date engraved in it.
But then he disappears for weeks
We are going on 7 years!
Posted by Deedee86
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
you are soooooooooo right. you both have a lucky karmic one. not even one square or opposition.
I see, why should you flee? from home?
He flees from me all the time.
I don't understand. He loves me, that I am sure of, but he runs.
when I put things together that I read today (so bascially all theory), I'd say he knows he want to marry you. But he tries to keep distance so that it does not happen soon. cause maybe in his value system you don't marry at this time and stage of life. or just after n months. or some thing like that.
Yes, we have a wedding date set....9/15/23
We wanted our kids to be done with school so we don't have to disrupt their lives.
We've had that date set for years. He's even given me jewelry with that date engraved in it.
But then he disappears for weeks
We are going on 7 years!
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without him being a Sag or Gem Venus?
Posted by Deedee86
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
you are soooooooooo right. you both have a lucky karmic one. not even one square or opposition.
I see, why should you flee? from home?
He flees from me all the time.
I don't understand. He loves me, that I am sure of, but he runs.
when I put things together that I read today (so bascially all theory), I'd say he knows he want to marry you. But he tries to keep distance so that it does not happen soon. cause maybe in his value system you don't marry at this time and stage of life. or just after n months. or some thing like that.
Yes, we have a wedding date set....9/15/23
We wanted our kids to be done with school so we don't have to disrupt their lives.
We've had that date set for years. He's even given me jewelry with that date engraved in it.
But then he disappears for weeks
We are going on 7 years!
without him being a Sag or Gem Venus?
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Libra Sun and Mars, Virgo Venus
I'm Scorpio Sun, Cancer Mars, Libra Venus
Posted by Deedee86
This is my Libra and I. I think we have a karmic bond.Moon Sextile Saturn 0.37 90
Saturn Trine Neptune 0.31 55
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0.17 52
Saturn Trine Ascendant 2.28 43
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 3.04 85
you are soooooooooo right. you both have a lucky karmic one. not even one square or opposition.
I see, why should you flee? from home?
He flees from me all the time.
I don't understand. He loves me, that I am sure of, but he runs.
when I put things together that I read today (so bascially all theory), I'd say he knows he want to marry you. But he tries to keep distance so that it does not happen soon. cause maybe in his value system you don't marry at this time and stage of life. or just after n months. or some thing like that.
Yes, we have a wedding date set....9/15/23
We wanted our kids to be done with school so we don't have to disrupt their lives.
We've had that date set for years. He's even given me jewelry with that date engraved in it.
But then he disappears for weeks
We are going on 7 years!
without him being a Sag or Gem Venus?
Libra Sun and Mars, Virgo Venus
I'm Scorpio Sun, Cancer Mars, Libra Venus
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As a Scorpio you'll get it. but the Cardinals bite each other. Cancer Mars burst when it finally comes to express frustration, maybe the Libra part is fearful of that.
Posted by WarAngel1
I'm already going through it. If I could run away, I would. Since I can't, I'm dealing with one aspect at a time.Things are better now than 10 years ago.
10 years!!!
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maybe he has Jupiter in Scorp. they cannot give up. not in program options.
Posted by Blackburn
I never flee, but break. Anyways, how are we supposed to know if they are 'deserved' punishments or we are just looking for excuses to keep a toxic relationship going?now, how?
silly me.
yeah, it's difficult and the reason why I'm sitting sleepless here. in europe it's 30 after midnight.
----
I know.
Following 12th and Pluto's guide consciously leads to a self fulfilling prophecy.
I wish I were a hero. I've tried it. in theory everything is ok. in practice I fail right after half of a day. I guess I should be true to my own nature. freedom loving pretending to be an understanding slave? kartoon.
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Who says you fail?
Posted by DwellingOnMove
Would you flee from a person whose chart has at least three karmik contacts to yours? What if your Nemesis is involved? ...
folks, this issue is more bizarre than I thought.
I did quit my last workplace cause my supervisor|colleague was such a person.
Only to find out one week later that my new roommate is yet another person of this kind. The two men has the same birth year, same Saturn, SN, Jupiter sign, same aspects (only 1-2 degree further) to my chart.
transit SagSaturn (conjuncting my natal Mars and Venus) was serious about tasks it has for me. Saturn is consistent. If you don't accept the task at the workplace, you get served at home.
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Would you flee from a person whose chart has at least three karmik contacts to yours? What if your Nemesis is involved? Would you let nature punish you?
for the start:
https://cafeastrology.com/karmicrelationshipskarma.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000058.html
which one? this:
or this: